Clinton vs. Obama

jaycee, Ventura, California — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:18:31 GMT

C’mon, people. Let’s leave la-la land behind here, shall we? If McCain is the nominee then Hillary is the piece of toast, assuming the Republicans don’t self-destruct by withholding the conservative vote. Given their long tradition of nose holding and voting the party ticket, I sure wouldn’t count on that. McCain’s strength is in the middle with Independents, exactly the terrain on which this battle will be fought. Independents generally hate Hillary and Bill, fair or unfair.

She’s already ceded John the upper hand on Iraq, which was supposed to be our signature issue and the one that was going to guarantee a Democratic victory. She disappointed the anti-war base in her own party with her votes on Iraq and Iran, and they will be less than enthused about her in November. McCain will say she is just your typical flip-flopping poll-driven politician, voting for the war before she voted against it. Hillary won’t be able to hang Bush’s mismanagement of the conflict around John’s neck, because he broke with Bush and Rumsfeld early and took a lot of flak from his own party doing it. Now he looks like the principled one who consistently stuck to his guns, and the “success” of the surge vindicates his approach. Hillary can fumble around about megalomaniacs all she likes, but with those crucial Independents and even many members of her own party, it’s game over, with no swiftboating required.

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Matt, Lawrence, KS — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:22:10 GMT

I love this... Every media circle before the results came in ALL said "whoever wins California" is going to be the Victor on Feb.5th... This is of course with every media moron using the Zogby poll that said Obama was going to win by 14% POINTS...

What happened? That's right, Obama got his butt kicked and what did the media say? Nothing...

This is sexism at it's finest....

Never contributed to a campaign before... I just contributed to the Clinton campaign...

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Chris O, Oakland CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:24:17 GMT

This is the first presidential election in US history where a leading candidate's (Hillary) platform is self pity.

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Wallace, NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:25:01 GMT

Barack Obama - the black version of Jimmy Carter.

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Hoarce Evers, Summitt, MI — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:27:08 GMT

More debates? Gee, what don't we know about these candidates that hasn't come out in the previous 672 debates? I guess Hillary needs free airtime so she can cry.

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Beachdog, Coasting — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:27:33 GMT

You guys kill me. When writing about Obama you remind me of middle school girls talking about a boy they have a crush on. Poo-pooing their rivals all the while. Hillarity will win the Democrat nomination. And you know what that means...can you say President McCain? Unfortunately for all of us there is, once again, no real choice.

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WGN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:28:56 GMT

Next debate with Hillary? Lets talk about her "Experience" - year by year. Don't leave out the 15 years as a corporate union busting lawyer either.

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Ron, California — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:01 GMT

He will say anything to get elected!

OBAMA ISSUES 'SUPER' THREAT TO TOP DEMS
By GEOFF EARLE Post Correspondent

Pow Wow On Democrats

Post columnist Charles Hurt and Post corespondent Geoff Earle discuss the Democratic race for president.
February 7, 2008 -- Barack Obama fired a warning shot over the heads of lawmakers who get to cast crucial votes at the party's convention as uncommitted "superdelegates" - saying they shouldn't override the will of the voters in their states.
Obama said superdelegates "would have to think long and hard about how they approach the nomination when the people they claim to represent have said, 'Obama's our guy.' "
The message: If you're an elected member of Congress, and your district backs Obama, casting a vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton could be bad for your political career.
Obama delivered the message at a Chicago press conference yesterday - after he battled Clinton to a draw in yesterday's Super Tuesday primaries and caucuses, carrying 13 states and barely besting her in the count of pledged delegates.
But when superdelegates who have pledged support for Clinton are counted, she gets the lead.
Pledged delegates have to reflect the will of voters in their states, but superdelegates - who include members of Congress, governors, and various party functionaries - get to vote for whomever they want.
Obama also said there was "a whole dump truck" full of dirt that Republicans could use on Clinton if she becomes the nominee - countering her repeated claim that she has been fully "vetted" whereas he hasn't.
He said Clinton's research operation was "about as good as anybody's," and it hasn't found much dirt on him.
"I assure you that having engaged in a contest against them for the last year, that they've pulled out all the stops. And you know I think what is absolutely true is, whoever the Democratic nominee is, the Republicans will go after them," he said.
"The notion that somehow Senator Clinton is going to be immune from attack or there's not a whole dump truck they can't back up in a match between her and John McCain is just not true," he said.
Clinton, in her own press conference yesterday, said "this is a vigorous two-person contest now," and called on Obama to agree to more debates.
"We're going to be able to showcase our records, our qualifications, the differences, the contrast between us, because voters are really tuning in now," she said.
"If voters start to think about who would be the best president, to be commander-in-chief on Day One, to turn the economy around and who would be the best Democratic nominee to win in November, I am very comfortable with the answers to those questions," she said.
Clinton said there's nothing in her past she has to try to paper over - including the years she represented big corporate clients as a lawyer for the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Ark.
Clinton unfailingly touts her time working on behalf of children and providing legal aide, but doesn't talk much about time serving on corporate boards or representing big companies.

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Toni — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:04 GMT

Debates=free advertisement, espically when you have not managed your money wisely.

Hillary is this how you plan to manage the peoples money. I thought you were the policy detail 'wonk". It's called spending more than you have. On the national level it means increased deficits

Not good..... What is it with these NY candidates. BTW McCain didn't do so well handling his money in the beginning either.

Who has shown the best ability to manage a large organization and the peoples money(his contributors)

Obama 08

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HP Boston — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:49 GMT

The Media shoved the war down our throats now they are on the obama for president bandwagon. It will be non stop, they will pound us with a daily eat drink and sleep with Obama! Keep it up guys, we do remember how you pulled the same campaign to go to WAR.
Raise the tents sing the gospel, suck 'em in for Dejesus!

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fortuna, Houston, TX — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:38:37 GMT

There have already been 18 debates - we need 5 more in 5 weeks? I don't think so. I've watched all but one of them and there's just not a whole lot more to say. One or two between now and March 4th should be MORE than enough. Personally, I think the candidates would be better served by actually getting out and talking to real people instead of the political pundits that run these debates. I look forward to the opportunity to see the candidates personally when they get here to Texas.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:44:19 GMT

The Ted Kennedy Factor - it is more subtle than people realize:

# 1: Barack Obama was NOT going to win Massachusetts. Everybody knew that. There was no ground campaign for him here. He DIDN'T campaign here, other than an election eve rally. It was ALWAYS about trying to get some delegates. Boston Mayor Menino "owed" the Clintons. Terry McAuliffe was the DNC Chairman back in 2004. Despite not being ready for it and against opposition here, McAuliffe gave in to Mayor Menino and Boston had the Convention here. Hence, the large support for the Clintons.

Barack Obama was behind Clinton I think by about 20-25 points in MA just 2 months ago. In the end, he did very well here delegates wise, thanks in large part to Ted Kennedy.

# 2: Barack Obama was NOT going to win California. He won I believe in California with people who voted for him on Tuesday. The absentee ballots went to Clinton, which was before Obama became a viable candidate.

# 3: Ted Kennedy shut Bill Clinton up which allowed Barack Obama to stay on message. Ted Kennedy opened the door to Barack being seen as a viable candidate, not just an African American candidate, which is what Bill Clinton wanted.

#4: Ted Kennedy & most of the Democratic Party do not like the Clintons as they feel Bill Clinton sold out to the Republicans with the Contract w/America nonsense. Which he did. Just ask Tom Daschle. That is why you see most of the Democratic Party behind Barack Obama.

Looking at the map yesterday, I just don't see how Hillary Clinton is going to win the election if she's the nominee. Her support is minimal across the country.

And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, I hope Barack Obama does not take the VP position. That would put him third in line, not second.

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Rick,ky — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:45:23 GMT

I don't blame Barack for not wanting to give Hillary FREE media via Debates. Make her EARN the Respect of voter's the old fashioned way.

Threatening Superdelegates, how do come across that definition?The evidence is how these Superdelegates constituents are voting.

Barack is slowly making inroads on Hispanic's vote.

Time is on our side, as the song goes!

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Ron Allen — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:47:04 GMT

Now your comment, "the campaign with historic clout" in apparent reference to Hillary and Obama's outraising her is totally biased. You analysts need to udnerstand that raising more money is a sign of increased popularity, given that Obama increased his base of donors rather than the amount of money given him.
You guys need to stop your acts of favoritism toward either candidate and focus on the underlining factors influencing the direction of where each candidate is heading. No need to persist with your guessing game.

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Anthony — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:50:38 GMT

COULD THE KENYAN CRISIS BE REPLICATED IN USA

The 2000 USA general elections generated considerable controversy when the then Democratic candidate al gore accused President George Bush of election rigging. This accusation generated considerable tension among Al gore supporters. However, in his characteristic statesmanship, Al gore chose to settle the matter in court and when the ruling went against him; he gracefully conceded defeat and the matter ended there. However, one question that may be disturbing and beg for an answer is, supposing the cast then was President Bush against Barrack Obama? What would have been the likely scenario? Could we have for the first time in the history of electro politics in the USA witnessed massive riots and mass action across the cities in USA?

A number of clear parallels can be drawn between the campaign themes mounted by the ODM candidate Raila Odinga in Kenya last year and the current themes surrounding sen. Obama’s campaign. Raila Odinga’s election platform was change, and the economic empowerment for the so called “marginalized”. His core support groups were the youth especially the un- employed lot. His candidacy also appeared to enjoy massive support from the leading media houses and was perceived as a media candidate. On the other hand Obama’s campaign platform is also anchored on the theme of change, economic empowerment for the youth and his campaign also appear to enjoy considerable support from some of the leading media house in USA and else where. His core group of supporters is also drawn from the youth.

Last years Kenya’s general elections were very close to call and many opinion polls done throughout the campaign period appeared to suggest a very close race. Most political observers believe that the ODM supporters were never prepared to loose the elections since expectations were too high. The ultimate announcement that President Kibaki had retained his seat was therefore a major shock to the majority youthful supporters of Raila Odinga. His assertion that the polls were rigged only served to trigger massive riots and violence that have never before been witnessed in this country long considered as an oasis of peace and stability. The massive riots and violence caught almost everybody totally unprepared. Most Kenyan’s have never in their wildest dreams anticipated such large scale incidents of violence looting and absolute mayhem bordering on complete collapse of the rule of law.

Back in the USA, the current primary race between Sen. Obama and Hillary Clinton appears very close and vicious. There is a very real possibility that the race may eventually go to the wire and most American’s have not carefully thought what that may portend to the supporters of both candidates. Court proceedings might be considered as an option by any of the aggrieved candidate, but the worst case scenario might be political tensions and perhaps riot incidents especially if rigging allegations are brought up by either of the two candidates. This scenario might be much worse if this is replicated at the main general elections latter on in November.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:51:26 GMT

In other words, The Clinton's want more debates to try and steamroll Obama. That is about the first time The Clinton's have come up with an idea that might just work.

The Clinton's going on a debate on Fox News????? I can see George Soros cutting off the money to their campaign. If Obama does not want to debate, then his replacement should be Sean Hannitty. I'm sure Sean has a lot to debate The Clinton's about....

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Stacy, Virginia — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:52:18 GMT

Hillary Clinton wants more debates because they are free. It is the cheapest way to get her message heard. After the CA debate there isn't anything new to debate. They both just repeat their talking points. Of course there needs to be a debate before the Texas/Ohio contest for the people who haven't been paying attention since their primaries are so far away. But if Obama agrees to a bunch of debates he is just giving her free TV time.

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Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:54:31 GMT

Of course she wants to have a debate every week. She's hurting for money and wants the free national air time.

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Benjamin Keaton, Alabama — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:54:36 GMT

Obama's too chicken to have more debates!!! Is that kind wimpy attitude that we don't need in the White House.

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pat huntington ny — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:57:45 GMT

Hillary supporters....she needs our help. Contribute to her campaign by going to www.hillaryclinton.com

Contributing any amount will help.

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squintz, philly, pa — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:58:46 GMT

Oh yes, please, let's have some more debates, as they've been such TREASURE TROVES of useful policy discussion.

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Toni C — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:59:28 GMT

Way back in August the Obama wanted to limit excessive amounts of debates in order for the candidate to be able to do the kind of retail politics that gets him face to face with the voter. They actually did MORE debates than they planned.

Hillary, limited by funds, wants to stop Obama from getting to spend all this extra time in front of crowds in the upcoming states. Its just a tactic.

Back in August ...

"Unfortunately, we simply cannot run the kind of campaign we want and need to, engaging with voters in the early states and February 5, if our schedule is dictated by dozens of forums and debates,"

"Ultimately, the one group left out of the current schedule is the voters and they are the ones who ask the toughest questions and most deserve to have those questions answered face to face."

Campaign manager Plouffe

Now that Obama can do retail and Hillary can't really she wants to slow him down with these debates. Not so much on issues but on taxing his resources to do retail while she gets to get free media. Smart enough but he's not that dumb. There will probably be another one but certainly not 4.

HIllary wants to rope-a-dope until she can get to Texas and Ohio. What she does really care about is the fact that Obama is bringing Indys in wherever he goes stumping that will deliver te white house to the DEMS.

Guess what Hillary, the only states you can seem to rack up delagates are the states Obama will win anyway. (NY, NJ, MA, CA) Good wins for sure but not exactly expanding the electoral map.

You are staying close in the primary the same way the DEMS lose the general map electorally. Why we all don't wake up to this and go with Obama as a national DEM party winner is to risk the general election.

These primaries have been microcisms of electoral mechanics.

Iowa - Obama wins (kerry lost a squeaker)
New Hampshire Obama ties in delagtes (DEM barely won)
Nevada - Obama wins the most delagates Hillary wins the Blue area (Kerry lost a squeaker losing everywhere Hillary lost)
South Carolina - Loyal AA-DEM base gives Obama a landslide (DEMS win big Blue states with the solid DEMS and Black/minority vote e.g. IL, PA, MD, DE, NY)

2004/08 battlegrounds closely lost by Kerry

Colorodo- Obama trounces Clinton
Missouri - Obama
Iowa - Obama

I find it funny about Florida which "could" go DEM with either candidate. If it does go DEM it would go with either but might be more likely with Obama's INDY support.

But becuase of no campaigning there (something Hillary is trying now to prevent in these other contests she has a name ID lead in by asking for this slate of time robbing debates) Clinton won a meaningless contest.

This race is now by default in the hands of superdedlagates which is a problem for disenchanting the Obama support. IF SD's pick CLinton they will destroy the new wave of support Obama is bringing in for the November victory.

Neither CLinton nor Obama can get 65% percent of the reamining pledged delagtes to secure the nomination.

With Obama peppering the map in swing states and Clinton peppering the map with large states primarily already secured as blue, superdelagates will have a tough decision.

Do you want to win in November? = Obama.
Do you want to lose a nail biter with the Kerry electoral map? = Clinton.

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Devin, Alberta, Canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:59:51 GMT

If i'm not mistaken, this campagin has had more debates than any other in history, with the last one being little more than a week ago. Not that debates are a bad thing mind you, but this a fairly obvious spin on Obama "not talking to the people".

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Phred, NH — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:59:58 GMT

By all means have more debates. Give em a chance to torpedo or bolster their respective candidacies!! Heck, I'll volunteer to make the slingable mud pies!!

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Brady Obrien — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:00:46 GMT

Should Obama be threatened by the Super Delgates? If he doesn't know by now, those delegates were handpicked by Howard Dean to support the Clintons. The only way Obama gets their attention is if he wins the majority of delegates the voters pick, then he can try to shame the Super Delegates into supporting him. But this will be a tough road because as we all know, the Clintons have no shame.

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JohnnyU, WA State — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:01:04 GMT

Surely superdelegates have some moral/ethical obligation to reflect the will of their constituents?! You can bet I'll be letting my representative know that if candidate A is more popular in our district and said superdelegate goes for candidate B, he/she will not have my vote again. Remember "Of, By & For the PEOPLE"

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Al, KS — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:02:45 GMT

Forget debates...that's desperation because Clinton is out of money. Obama actually reaches more voters with his big rallies drawing up to 20,000 each. Yep, she wants to keep him off the trail and on these so called debate shows.

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oknOK — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:03:38 GMT

It is very disappointing Obama will not agree to further debates. He made a comment this week that people were just "getting to know" him. What better way to reach many, many more people than through a national television debate.

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Enrique, Chicago — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:04:06 GMT

Candidates that don't have the financial resources to advertise turn to debates for media attention. This would explain why Hillary wants a 19th debate before the March 4 primary.

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EnoughDebates — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:05:53 GMT

This debate ploy is lame.

There are virtually no policy differences between the candidates. The few that exist are well-known and heavily aired. What is there to debate?

These Clinton campaign gimmicks have got to stop. The Nevada lawsuit, the FL/MI "wins," the phony debate request, etc. All of these disingenuous efforts reek of desperation and a recognition that the book on the Clinton dynasty is rapidly closing.

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Steven, Rochester NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:06:50 GMT

Of course Clinton wants more debates; she doesn't have the money to get her own publicity. Obama would be smart to agree to one or two in the next month, but there's no reason he should help her struggling campaign. Unfortunately, accepting anything less than what Clinton wants will wind up that Clinton spin machine again.

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JD, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:08:58 GMT

I find it interesting that Barack does not want to engage in a number of one on one debates with Hillary. Whatever motivation Hillary has in asking for them it just doesn’t matter. Debates are good for the nation and for the electorate to further understand the candidates and their positions on the issues. If Barack backs down from them now what does that say about his capabilities and willingness to take on the hard issues and questions he would surely face if elected. Come on Barack, stand up and be the strong candidate you claim to be. Let the debates begin.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:09:26 GMT

Ted Kennedy's Support

The reason Ted Kennedy and most of the Democratic Party are behind Barack Obama is because of Bill Clinton's presidency, NOT necessarily because of the Jesse Jackson comment.

The party rightly believes President Clinton sold out to Newt Gringrich and the Republicans with respect to the Contract with America.

And Ted Kennedy SHUT BILL CLINTON UP and made Barack Obama a viable candidate, not just an African American candidate, which was what Clinton was shooting for.

Barack Obama was not going to win Massachusetts - he didn't even campaign here, other than an election eve rally. It was always about picking up delegates.

TED KENNEDY HAS HELPED BARACK OBAMA ENORMOUSLY.

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BionicWoman, Tucson, AZ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:04 GMT

I just gave to Hillary. Don't worry about her having enough money. Anyone who thinks that Obama is more electable than Hillary is smoking something. Just people people like to beat up on Hillary doesn't mean that they can knock her out. Obama people might just find out, after the Repugs get started on him, that he has a glass jaw.

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T, San Antonio, TX — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:13:32 GMT

Good Lord I hope this woman doesn't win. Another Clinton is the last thing we need in the White House.

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Claudia, Santo Domingo, DR — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:14:00 GMT

Dominican Republic supports Clinton!
Admit, her husband's goverment was the best one i've seen in all USA's history! and guess who was behind him? Hilary!

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Ron Allen — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:14:47 GMT

I highly doubt that Obama and Bush, if they were ever paired and Bush was acused of election rigging, would resort to the same kind of political and social unrest. You cannot compare America to Kenya or any otehr country. We have the resources and leaders to thwart the same events that unfolded in Kenya from happening here. To think of America through the experiences of less democratic, more corrupt, and far less powerful nations is way too much.

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wale azeez — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:14:57 GMT

did anybody see hillary's reaction during the last debate when obama said romney has unwisely invested his campaign funds...there was something telling about it..look closely when hillary laughs it's normally with wide open teeth...guilty conscience? anyways you can tell how your white house budget will be balanced in the future

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chuck — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:15:46 GMT

Don't fall for Hillary's trap, Barack. Hillary only wants some free media. Tell her to use some of that $30M she has on hand if she wants coverage.

Hopefully, sometime before the race is over, the media will ask the Clinton campaign about their $30M (opensecrets.org; cnn.com) and quit simply writing everything they're told

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cgibson — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:16:29 GMT

Threaten superdelegates?? I wonder from whom he could have picked up that trick? I am sure the Clintons have never put pressure on someone to publicly support them. That would never happen.

However, when Obama wins a district by 60-70% it would seem to put some pressure on those elected reps.

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Arod Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:19:02 GMT

How do you get somewhere you've never been by going where you've already gone? SAY NO TO BILL-ARY CLINTON!

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mbot565 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:19:46 GMT

Hillary wants debate? Of course? How else is she going to get free air time. Give me a break! We've had gazzilions debate already, go out there and campaign meet people one on one.

DEBATE!!! YA right!! No MORE DEBATE... I'm sick of debates, especially when it's moderated by the MEDIA!!

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Joe, Santa Cruz CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:20:10 GMT

Obama raised 7.2 million bucks yesterday. The people of this country are sending a clear message to the Washington Establishment. One by one, the little guy of this country is donating $20 or $50 to see change in American politics. It's only just getting started. We better join the revolution or get out of the way.

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Armando Washington NJ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:20:58 GMT

I am reading everything where I can put my eyes, and I became convinced that people go by the look and not by what is import .
Will be nice if you or any pollster, ask the young voters “ less than 30’s” if they can define what is the views of Obama for all critical subjects, like economy, health care, war on terrorism, and secure borders. TV and Internet has been flooded with Obama, I understand he is the news, and news make’s money for the TV stations and Internet web sites because it will attract advertising, but is time for all of us think what is import.
Our economy cross a very difficult times and the future of our country is at stake.
If this is a context of populism then Obama will wan.

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Jason, Novi, MI — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:21:38 GMT

Why should Obama debate once a week? He has proven everything thus far and all Clinton wants to do is attack him in front of a national audience, because she doesnt have the fund to do it on the radio/tv airwaves, nor on the campaign trail, cause she cant visit all the states because of her cash crunch.

If I was Obama, I'll have no more than two more 1on1 debates with Clinton, starting after Sat...

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MKD — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:21:59 GMT

Hillary only wants more debates because (1) it is free air time and she is having funding problems (2) She wants to keep Obama off the campaign trail b/c his strength is the big rallys (3) Though their policy platforms are alomst identical and they have had nearly a billion debates already - she does marginally better in the debates...they are her strength .... I mean come on - NOW she is willing to agree to a Fox debate, when no one would before?? What, has she finally got a believable response as to why she voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq (other than the obvious political motivation)?

I'm sure she is going to frame this as "Barack doesn't want the people to know his positions..." or something similarly attempting to make herself look magnanimous...Hopefully it won't work, I have seen more debates this campaign season than any before, I know their positions are very similar, it is time for them to go out and campaign and see who wins the nomination.

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Bee — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:24:59 GMT

The best thing for the Clinton is to get out of this race now because there are more scandals on the way.

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Erma — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:27:21 GMT

Obama is a dreamer. He will never become president of the United States. He doesn't have the background or experience that Hillary Clinton has. The young voters are taken in by his charm, inspiration and youth. The Clinton people know their candidate has the experience and know-how to shape this country for the better. Dream on, Obama!

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Neal Heidler, Bloomington, IN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:30:28 GMT

What is so bad about having more debates? Would prefer to watch campaign ads and more of the abysmal election coverage? I recently watched a lot of the coverage, and watched the California debate, and I'm hard pressed to think of anything other coverage of the actual voting that was anywhere near as useful or enlightening as the debate.
There should be more debates; there are topics that need more discussion and everyone needs to pay attention.

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MKD — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:31:37 GMT

If the Democratic nomination is decided by the Super Delegates and NOT the Democratic voters, we have a problem. If either of the two candidates is ahead, even by a few votes, and the Super Delegates swing it the other way - there will be a lot of angry Democratic voters. If either of the Candidates (Clinton or Obama) takes the win by this means, they will be "winning" the Democratic nomination in much the same way that George W. Bush "won" the Presidency in 2000. Appointed despite the will of the voters by an elite group who "knows best."

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Tigere Wani — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:32:23 GMT

Antony: COULD THE KENYAN CRISIS BE REPLICATED IN USA

What is the connection between the US and Kenya here? This is precisely the politics of 'fear mongering' that this country can do without. Please let the good people of America debate serious issues without bringing confusion through ill-advised analysis of situations you clearly don't have a full understanding of. For some of us who have lived the current situation in Kenya, this is an insult. There is absolutely no comparison whatsover between the way elections are conducted in the USA and the situation you are trying to draw parallels to!!

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:32:32 GMT

Democrats reading these posts .... be suspicious of any posts that state vote Hillary and you get President McCain, or otherwise try to divide the Democratic party...they are most likely from republicans engaging in typical Karl Rove politics.

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SKS, Minnesota — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:34:35 GMT

Given that the race for delegates is going to be so close and MI and FL will become a messy issue as we get closer to the convention, why don't we nip that controversy in the bud now and allow those states to reschedule legitimate primaries for, say, April? That way, those voters will be allowed to have their votes count AFTER a fair vote is conducted with both candidates on the ballot and both candidates given a chance to campaign. The DNC should consider this before the argument over MI and FL becomes a huge problem for the party.

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Eric, Phoenix AZ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:36:03 GMT

I'm an Obama supporter but that comment about the Super Delegates being hand picked by Dean to support Clinton is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Terry MacAulife and the Clintons did everything they could in 2004 to make sure Dean wasn't the nominee.

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Adnora H, Ventura, California — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:36:58 GMT

Whoever invented this? "Super"delegate's indeed! Our election system is arcane and disenfranchising. Oh for a clear majority to help stop the ole wheels from turning, turning, turning.

Obama 08

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Ben — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:38:03 GMT

By my count there have been 18 debates so far. The most in history for a nomination contest. Having worked on campaigns I can tell you that debate prep and the debate itself is a time-consuming process that eats up an entire day and ultimately only confirms what people already liked or disliked about you. Of course Hillary wants debates. Obama has been up on TV in all the states after Super Tuesday while Hillary just made her first ad buy in LA, ME, NE and WA (which vote this weekend). Look at the schedule. Seven states all over the country are voting in the next 5 days. When exactly would a potomac area debate take place?

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Chuck in Denver — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:40:54 GMT

Why bother having more debates if they are going to be full of superficial questions, phony controversies and "gotcha" questions from the interviewers. Focusing on whatever tempest-in-a-teapot has been in in the news the previous week is not the way to structure an informative debate.

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Mike, Keller, Texas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:41:05 GMT

What better way to allow someone to get to know Obama? How about walking up and shaking his hand? How about going to see him in person when he comes to a city near you? Obama is willing to travel to meet the people he wants to have vote. He is not necessarily against the idea of more debates, he is just against the schedule the Clinton campaign wants to dictate. The Obama Campaign even openly admitted that there is the possibility that there could be at least one more debate. But in a campaign where the issues don't matter, debating does nothing to further clarify the waters. They favor the candidate that can produce the best sound bites. Policies are never best represented in sound javascript:{if (typeof(Page_ClientValidate) != 'function' || Page_ClientValidate()) __doPostBack('_ctl0$_$_ctl0$_$_ctl0$_$form$_$btnSubmit','')}
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nuanced — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:41:21 GMT

Brady, where did you get your information? Superdelagates are senators, congressmen, mayors, governors, etc. They are handpicked by the american people not Howard Dean. Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton are not friends. The Clintons did their best to derail Dean's run for president. Did you just completely make it all up out of thin air? If not I'd like to know who is putting out this dis-information.

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Chris NY, NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:43:46 GMT

Obama better put down his own kool aid, and think twice before he continues whining about whether super delegates should support their state or district.

First it sounds very "politics as usual" which I am sure will come as a surprise to his fans.

But more importantly, it looks like if the superdelegates did go the way their states and districts voted it would help Clinton much more than him - among other things I guess he would have to give up Kennedy, Kerry, and Duval Patrick.

He won little states with few super delegates and Hillary won the big ones with lots of super delegates - this trend will continue into the next rounds (OH, PA, TX will go to Clinton) - and would be even worse for him if you count FL and MI.

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Tami — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:44:43 GMT

THE EXPERIENCE FACTOR:
Senator Clinton has based her campaign on an erroneous claim to greater legislative and administrative experience.Former Pres.Clinton talks up his wife's role in his administration on the campaign trail but pointedly refuses to release any documents that would provide greater details on her actual activities there. It is broadly understood that Hillary spearheaded the response team that staved off Republican attacks and spun the many scandals of the Clinton years. As to her Sen ate record, no one in the press has had the diligence to lay out her record for the public to assess.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

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Frank -Boca Raton, FL — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:44:54 GMT

First of all California and New York alone can't win dems the Whitehouse. YES they need a few red states. Hillary will not win any red states including AR if Mike Huckabee is the VP for McCain.
Independent vote is critical in this election. Hillary will not get the independent vote.She will NOT get the black vote. Hispanics are a non- factor in the General election. They tend to vote republican anyway.
I live in a red state and most Republicans are willing to vote for Obama against McCain but they will not vote for Hillary. She needs to quit this race while she could do it in a dignified manner, otherwise we will have another Republican in the Whitehouse for the next 4-8 years.

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lorisbay — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:49:47 GMT

Pipe down Hilliary on the dabates. Why should Obama agree to a debate a week. You stupid fool! You dont have money to take your message directly to the people so you want to control how Obama gets his message out by bogging him down in some meaningless debates with you. Go raise some money and hit the streets and talk or (cry) to the people and get your message out. You debate suggestion is an insult to Obama. You foolish woman.

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steve — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:50:03 GMT

Clinton may be running out of money, but at least she's doing it the appropriate way. I know for a fact because i'm in the entertainment business that oprah has given him his little money that he is gloating all about !!!!!!!!!!!

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Independent in CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:50:05 GMT

The Super Delegate thing is concerning.....As I think there are some real issues...

#1 If Hillary wins less states but wins the Nomination by "Stealing" Florida and Michigan - how is this perceived by the American People?

#2 I don't see an Obama Clinton Ticket as it's too much change on 1 ticket compared to a more traditional ticket offered by the Republican's.

#3 If it's all set up by Howard Dean to give it to the Clinton's what happens to the Obama Support and Voters...where do those people go in the fall? Why take the risk of telling them their vote does not matter and souring a whole generation of new voters?

Question: Do the Clinton's want this so badly that they would risk that?

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Louis, Phoenix, Az. — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:16:56 GMT

Clinton is on the Ropes and she knows it, why else go back to the old style of "make your opponent look so bad they'll have to vote for me" tactics. Despite the spin, the Committed delegates, not superdelegates (that can still jump ship before the convention) are virtually even or with Obama slightly ahead. As she gets more desperate, so do the lies.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers_1.html

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David Speakman, Mountain View, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:17:21 GMT

Name one specific thing Obama has done that made the lives of people better.

One SPECIFIC thing.

Obamamaniacs can't. Sure, they can name personality traits - or job titles - or personal emotional reactions - or things he didn't do.
But they can't name one specific thing Obama has done to make the world a better place.

Obama never voted for the war. He also never voted against the war.

He hasn't done anything. Now some people want to make him president.

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Nicholas Gattinger — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:18:01 GMT

no doubt that the senate is exactly like high school like when Sen. Kennedy yesterday shook Sen. Clintons hand and Obama looked away to go talk to John Kerry who took Barack by the elbow and led him away from Sen. Clinton when she went to approach them to talk. Hillary Clinton is not against Obama she is against the senators who dislike her, they are just using Obama as thier weapon. I have sat In a senate proceeding and Its like a barn yard full of animals, The reason why Hillary Clinton has enemies in the democratic senate is because she doesnt let them tell her what to do, If Barack gets in there will be a lot of unmentionable things going on. Funny how the negro nation has turned on the Clintons especially Hillary. They have heleped them for years ( read her book)and now Obama twists her words ( funny it was right before the S.C. vote.....funny) and then like a slap in the face the whole negro nation backs thier brother. How much of a brother do you think he will be while he is surrounded by hundreds of rich white men? I think the better he does the more lighter his skin will get. Wake up America make the right choice for the country, go with someone who has done a lot of good, dont let the media and colour keep someone out of the White House who can fix the country.

What I mean by this color remark is that the black nation is being fooled by the rich whiite senators who are using them to vote in thier puppet. Its Democratic Manchurian canadite and its working. I moved to Canada when Bush got in, And if Obama gets in I will not be comming back because the economy will not rise as well as it should like if Hillary is in. I am a political reporrer and it is amazing how unbiast Canadian media is to thier polotics. In the U.S.A. I am ashamed to be a journalist as the media has a lot to gain if Obama gets in. why? because he pays them numerous ammounts of money and if he gets in he will give them a HUGE tax break. How do I know this? Bush did it in 2000 and I was whitness to the tax form that was signed by a Virginia television station.

PS: the only reason why Oprah is backing Obama is so she can hit the White House buffet any time she wants. The one thing she cannot at this time do to feed her ego.

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Joan, Iowa — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:20:51 GMT

Barack Obama has brought our youth into the picture by the thousands upon thousands. These kids have worked long and hard for hope and change in a Washington government that has long been broken. They want a government that doesn't turn its back on the will of the people but uses them in the process. What would become of all these young people if, after going through months and months of hard work, they were to find out the cruel truth about the democratic party - that the "fix" was on from the beginning, no matter what the people wanted? When a person is a "super delegate" one would think they would look at the big picture and do what was right for the party, for the voters, and for the future. If Barack Obama has the momentum, the money, the support, the most delegates...the contest HAS to go to him or the democratic party will be so broken it cannot be repaired.

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Damian, Toronto, Ontario — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:20:51 GMT

Interesting story about OBAMA!

How he put forward an environmental bill
(the one he touts).
But it didn't pass in it's original state.
In fact he later watered it down,
due to pressure from a company.
Said company was a known chronic polluter!

Said company's executives together contributed hundred's of thousands of dollars to the Obama campaign!

Obama is NOT for change.
He's just better at branding himself that way.

I wonder where the rest of his money comes from.
It pays to find out the facts!

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Nicholas Gattinger — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:22:07 GMT

It is no doubt that the senate is exactly like high school like when Sen. Kennedy yesterday shook Sen. Clintons hand and Obama looked away to go talk to John Kerry who took Barack by the elbow and led him away from Sen. Clinton when she went to approach them to talk. Hillary Clinton is not against Obama she is against the senators who dislike her, they are just using Obama as thier weapon. I have sat In a senate proceeding and Its like a barn yard full of animals, The reason why Hillary Clinton has enemies in the democratic senate is because she doesnt let them tell her what to do, If Barack gets in there will be a lot of unmentionable things going on. Funny how the negro nation has turned on the Clintons especially Hillary. They have heleped them for years ( read her book)and now Obama twists her words ( funny it was right before the S.C. vote.....funny) and then like a slap in the face the whole negro nation backs thier brother. How much of a brother do you think he will be while he is surrounded by hundreds of rich white men? I think the better he does the more lighter his skin will get. Wake up America make the rigth choice for the country, go with someone who has done a lot of good, dont let the media and colour keep someone out of the White House who can fix the country.

What I mean by this color remark is that the black nation is being fooled by the rich whiite senators who are using them to vote in thier puppet. Its Democratic Manchurian canadite and its working. I moved to Canada when Bush got in, And if Obama gets in I will not be comming back because the economy will not rise as well as it should like if Hillary is in. I am a political reporrer and it is amazing how unbiast Canadian media is to thier polotics. In the U.S.A. I am ashamed to be a journalist as the media has a lot to gain if Obama gets in. why? because he pays them numerous ammounts of money and if he gets in he will give them a HUGE tax break. How do I know this? Bush did it in 2000 and I was whitness to the tax form that was signed by a Virginia television station.

PS: the only reason why Oprah is backing Obama is so she can hit the White House buffet any time she wants. The one thing she cannot at this time do to feed her ego.

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Halli Casser-Jayne, Sharpsburg, MD — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:24:47 GMT

If I recall, for a week prior to ST you and every other pundit, and nearly every pollster had Hillary SINKING in the polls, and Obama SURGING! In fact, none of that was true and as has happened in previous contests between the two, late deciders broke for Senator Clinton.

What you don't say is that most of the states where Obama won won't mean a hill of beans to him in a general election were he the Democrat's nominee, as most of the states Senator Obama won were Republican strongholds. And those states will go Republican in the fall. By the way, winning in caucuses, which Senator Obama did, is not the same as winning a primary. Caucuses are often brokered wins, not straight votes,which is how America elects our presidents in general elections.

One more point, as long as the press continues to coo over Senator Obama, he will continue to have an unfair advantage. But all this cooing is to America's disadvantage. America is entitled to know everything they can about a presidential candidate in order to make an informed decision before they vote. Hasn't America learned anything from the last eight years?

Halli Casser-Jayne
The CJ Political Report
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

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just asking — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:24:50 GMT

All Obama has proved is he's a great talker. Let him put his mouth where his money is and debate Hillary one on one. THAT'S how you can really see the differences and strengths and weaknesses of the two and there has only been one such match up so far. Hillary has already had two disasterous debates, but she's still willing to take the chance. What's he so afraid of?

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Maryland; Addison Tx — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:26:11 GMT

This debate talk is just a ploy to get her mug on tv. This is NOT about the issues. She, herself REFUSED to debate an opponent, so they are a fine group of people to talk about debating the issues. I will happily vote for Obama next month. The future belongs to our children. It does not belong to sympathic, ignorant, racist, sexist and nostalgic fools that are voting for Hillary. Nor does it belong to power hungry people like the Clintons.

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REG; East Valley Phx. AZ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:27:14 GMT

The Bush administration’s self-serving dishonesty has been offensive, constant, consistent, irresponsible, costly, even criminal, is seen in most everything and is always coupled with an arrogance and reprehensible belligerence that says they think they can do whatever they want. Now I personally don’t ever want to see ‘more of the same’. John McCain has totally, without hesitation, strongly backed everything the Bush administration has offered since 2004 when it seems apparent that McCain became focused on 2008. Hillary Clinton has consistently demonstrated a sociopathic personality that when compared side-by-side with that of George W. Bush, there is little difference seen in style. The Republican Party is now patiently waiting to know who the Democratic nominee is going to be before releasing all of their power and Hillary has declared she is ready to aggressively do battle – ‘swift boat’ style and all. Can’t we do better than that? Do we have to have ‘dirty politics as usual’ with the result being that once again we elect the individual who is better at being worse? Isn’t it time for real change? …. time to elect someone with a conscience and with enough humility to focus on their responsibilities instead of just on self-satisfaction and their own private agenda?

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Cathy, Upstate NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:27:21 GMT

It is quite simple: if Obama won't agree to more debates, it is because he does NOT have any answers to the tough questions. Why else would he be so afraid? His refusal to debate just makes his glaring inexperience and inability to do anything but attack Hillary even more obvious! Wake up and pay more
attention, people.Contrary to what the youth voters may be thinking, this is NOT a "reality contest" on MTV! It is the hardest and most important job there is, and experience counts...HILLARY 2008!!!!!!!

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Ken Boston, MA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:27:56 GMT

Obama lost California by 10 points mostly because of the early voting that occured when HRC was ahead in every poll by double digets. She still may have won the state but it would have been much closer.

Bottom line is that Obama virtually tied her in delegates out of Tuesday. Two weeks ago he was behind in every state except Illinois and Georgia. For my money HRC is still the front runner but she is in a bit of trouble.

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Bonnie Peterson Dallas Texas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:30:59 GMT

The Democratic DREAM TICKET:
President Hillary R. Clinton
Vice President Barack Obama

'nuff said!

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T. Brown, Houston, TX — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:34:13 GMT

I think the candidates will do much better touching base with the people on a personal level rather than submitting to more staged media cockfights. I would rather listen to the candidates convince me why they deserve my valuable vote for POTUS than listen to them take cheap shots at each other for positions that they took up a thousand years ago for 2 hrs.

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campdog — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:34:50 GMT

"If the Democratic nomination is decided by the Super Delegates and NOT the Democratic voters, we have a problem. If either of the two candidates is ahead, even by a few votes, and the Super Delegates swing it the other way - there will be a lot of angry Democratic voters."

MKD

This may be true.....but it is the RULE....just like the rule about not seating Florida and Michigan's delegates.

So what is it with our Obama friends? Do you only want to enforce the rules that you like? Don't all the rules apply to the Obama camp? This sounds a little elitist to me....you know what elitists are don't you? Google the words "Kennedy" or "Kerry".

A read through the posts indicates that the Obama camp has a problem with one on one confrontations where substance trumps form? I have no doubt that Barach has outstanding talent as a speaker and I would add, a wonderful heart as a human being. But at this time, is America in need of subtance or style...are we as voters searching for the candidate with substance or style? Are we in need of a President that isn't afraid to go one on one with other world leaders or are we in need of a President that can inspire other world leaders with his words and enthusiasm?

I just can't see how a guy that is afraid to confront a person in a friendly debate can begin to ask to represent us as he meets with the leaders of North Korea or Iran within the first year of his being in office?

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Smurph, Chicago, Il — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:35:16 GMT

You're right. Obama is a dreamer. I am also a dreamer. Martin Luther King was a dreamer. And the people who are going to elect Obama are dreamers. We dream that we can take our country back, that we can correct all the errors made in the last 8 years. I have a DREAM.

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Simon, London, UK — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:36:07 GMT

Why is it that the educated, the net surfers, those who can at least speak English and African Americans (who are at least 80% Democrat) voted for Obama? Because they KNOW that Hillary won 't beat McCain as much as they may love her.

Kerry lost in 2004 because he too was branded by GWB as a flip-flopper on Iraq. I don't dislike Hillary. I'd love her to be the next president too, especially as she'd be the first female Commander-in-Chief. How I long for such a day.

But she just doesn't cut it.

Examine her behavior carefully. She isn't a leader; she's a follower. She follows the crowd, often even against her better judgment: on Iraq, on exceptions for torture, on every vital issue. She then followed her husband's lead into a run for the US presidency. And now she's following Obama in trying to match his fund-raising prowess.

I've always liked Hillary in spite of the errors when she made when she was First Lady. I love how she has stood by Bill to the very last. To me that demonstrated great moral courage. I don't believe I would have been that strong. But she isn't cut out to be president and she won't win anyway.

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Chris Penn — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:37:53 GMT

On March 4 Hillary will get all the delegates she needs and you add florida, which they will and that puts her over the top.Prior to that, she will also carry Maryland and possibly Washinton. Obama will be in trouble after March 4.

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Nicholas Gattinger, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:38:11 GMT

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Matt, Hamel, MN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:39:12 GMT

Please people! Hillary does not have more "experience" because she's had a seat in the senate for a couple years longer! Learn your facts! Obama has been an elected official longer.

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Darren, Durango, Colorado — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:39:40 GMT

Why would anyone want this country to be ran by the same two families for 20-plus years? Are you nuts? This isn't England or Poland. This is America, founded on change... which we need now. Obama is better than you non-believers think. The Clinton's have a historically corrupt past with ties to bad people (Frank Giustras for example). Time for change.

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CJ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:40:33 GMT

No Tami she has more experience than anyone...including McCain...oops. Well atleast she disagrees with McCain on Iraq....oops.

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Sharon, Jacksonville — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:40:43 GMT

Obama camp says it will be a tie? What a joke, and don't they wish. She will get the bigger share in Texas, Ohio and then Pennsylvania. His goose is cooked. That doesn't even include Florida, which Howard Dean promises will be in play.

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Donna Richardson, Antioch, TN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:40:55 GMT

I am a Hillary supporter for two reasons - first and foremost, she is extremely qualified and will be a great President; and second, I have waited all my life to support a woman for this job and at 60, I believe this is the woman that fills the bill. I am sick and tired of all the crap about the likability factor. That is a bunch of crap. The media is trying this year to be the "king maker" and we women are disgusted. If HRC doesn't win the nomination, then we may sit home on election day. That said, I would support a Clinton/Obama ticket.

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R. Backus, Wolfforth, TX — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:35 GMT

If anyone changes anything, it will piss-off somebody else, period. Ms. Clinton has made a lot of people mad, apparently Mr. Obama has not I have asked several in NY State and the Texas panhandle about Mr. Obama's specific plan for change, no specific, but he is going to change the Washington DC attitude and policies, same answer for Northern NY State. What is the people being changed in DC going to do while all this change is happening? No answer. Mr. Obama is George Bush with a pastor's gift of BS. Ms. Clinton has seemingly delivered slightly better answer on heakthcare and potential economic concerns, I will vote the experience side since JFK nearly screwed the US into a couple of near misses even though everyone felt just fine (10/62 & Vietnam beginning). Iraq has been a Cluster F#@* since the beginning and the answer will take years and many adjustments to get it near righted. China, India, Africa, South America, and the Southeast Asia are not going to wait forever for a piece of the pie ( and Russia is not done by a long shot). I do not want a learn-as-you-Go president again.

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JeanneGA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:58 GMT

Hillary will win with the superdelegates. That is why the Obama people are crying about it. They know they are screwed.

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Gloria Atlanta GA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:42:32 GMT

Hillary has experience all right- she can teach you how to lie, cheat and steal in an instant! At least Obama is not hateful and always talking about"the past".

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Donna Richardson, Antioch, TN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:42:45 GMT

Does Obama want it so badly, he would jeopardize losing the election to the REPUGs?

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Phred, NH — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:44:04 GMT

Can we all step back for just a moment, drop the anger and vitriol, and use good old common sense and wisdom.

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guy, Houston texas — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:44:56 GMT

Experience alone should not be Hillary's political capital. Here it seems like it is. On every critical concern of the American people, Obama is obviously more competitive.
He portrays the leadership traits that any country needs to positively transform all ills.
Talent, vision and strong leadership and humility characterizes Obama's personality. His humility will encourage brainstorming and team work at the white House.
Let's not forget that the decision not to go to war at a certain time of the American history is partly the reason for its greatness today. Obama can be credited for that.
Hillary could not even explain the rationale behind which she voted for the war. And she ended up saying "Bush was so obsessed and confident about it that she voted for him". This tells us that she is a follower rather than being a leader.
Obama's plan is neat and clear for the knowledgeable person.
Some say that Obama avoids debates with Hillary because he cannot stand her. This is just not true.
this has something to do with strategy.

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Marty K, SC — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:44:57 GMT

Hillary is running scared, she thought all she had to do was go through the motions and she would have the nomination for the Demo's.
As Gomer Pyle said `surprise, surprise,.
She wants more debates because it's free air time.
Obama shouldn't fall for her trick tactic.
Hillary has a lot to hide in her closet, 15 years of busting unions for big companies and some other unmentionables.
Hasn't this country had enough of the Clinton's, Hillary was running the country when Bill was chasing the skirts.
If Hillary wins the Demo nomination then who ever is the GOP nomination will be Pres.
Hillary talks out of both sides of her face.
Please Bill keep on campaigning for Hillary, it's the best thing you have done for this country.

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cwal — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:46:33 GMT

No more Clinton exclusives when she becomes President. I hope you guys choke on your own words of vomit.

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Ev Newton New Jersey — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:48:44 GMT

Who are the people running Obama's campaign to threaten the Super Delegates this is the process and has always been. I am sure if this goes down to the wire they will be whining that racism played a part. I was actually for Obama til the media started pushing him down our throats day after day. I f he is not running as the black candidate then why is is already crying foul before the election is up. Good for Maria Shriver for listening to her teenage daughter telling her how to vote, how much experience does her daughter have in the economics and the foreign policy of this country, what a way to make a decision. And Ted Kennedy neeed we forget his corrupt past who is fooling who in this campaign, the media needs to start reporting facts and start holding barack Obama accountable for his stand on all of the issues, this election is too important to have a movement and on the job training. If he wins this is one lady who will be voting Republican. We are engaged in 2 wars, an econominc recession and healthcare that keeps decling, our foreign policy is in shambles. America needs to start really listening to what is going on.

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Tony, Durham, NC — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:02:10 GMT

So, Hillary starts calling for debates after she loses the delegate race on Super Tuesday and her campaign goes broke.

If she couldn't articulate her positions in the previous 17 (or was it 18?) debates, something is wrong. Maybe she changed her mind on something and wants to tell everyone.

It's that time of the race where voters should get to meet candidates personally, and hear more about their specifics in things like town halls. Televised debates are complete jokes. Summarize health care or your exit strategy in 1 minute? Are you kidding? All televised debates do are encourage vagueness and one-liners.

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BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:03:09 GMT

In the early months of 2007 they OPUSHED HRC down our throats and now you complain when they do the same for Obama. Damn a person can`t get a brake around you whinners.
Now that Obama is closing the gap on your girl you want to cpmplain that the media is favoring him.
Isn`t that what they were doing with HRC when this race started (A statement not a question.)

She is now playing the card that she is out of cash (like with tears = N.Hampshire.) People don`t fall for the hype, they have money they are just playing with your minds ( the Clintons at it again.) I am a women and I have no intentions on voting for HRC. If she is the party pick I will vote a republican as it will still be the same old BS in the white house if she runs against a republican. Who needs that?

She can`t mamnage the campaign money and she wants to manage the American funds, I think NOT.

Obama/Ewdards '08..... Even if Edwards is no longer running.

Go Obama.

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JC, Corona, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:04:12 GMT

Hillary supporters need to seriously look at the issue of electability. Hillary can't win in November with Democratic votes alone. She will need independents too. Problem is she unpopular with independents. McCain is very popular with independents. Obama is even more popular among independents than McCain and he is popular with moderate Republicans. Obama is electable. Clinton's electability is questionable.

Her Iraq vote will really come back to haunt her. Saying that I voted to authorize war but didn't realise that I was voting to authorize war makes her look like an idiot. The Republicans will have a field day with this in November. The Democrats need a true antiwar candidate to go up against McCain.

And if you are honest when you say that you want the most experienced candidate then you should be voting for McCain who has a lot more experience than Clinton. Even Obama has spent more time in elected office than Clinton has.

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Rose Alexandria VA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:04:21 GMT

Clinton know to shape this Country for the better ;Are you kiding???????? She does not have the money for her campaign now she want the debate ,I will not vote for her if she is the nominee ,all of forgot The Clinton scandals;Stop Your racism ;Senator Obama is a American Citizen, HE IS NOT KENYIAN, So if you do not have the intelligent argument please shut up your mouth.........

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martel, Burlington, vt — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:05:18 GMT

A little late in the day to join in - but i am saddened by the vitrolic thoughts some of you are expressing. We are lucky to have two candidates that answer a need in each of us. I identify with Clinton, given my age, experiences and financial needs. I see her as the energizer bunny - she just keeps going. If I were 25 I would be an Obama candidate - all filled with hope for the future and full of the can do enthusiasm seen in the young supporters he has. I really am hoping for a clinton.obama ticket. Each of us choses for a different reason and you can not tell alother to change that inner voice that leads them to one candidate over another.

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Bill Smith, Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:05:45 GMT

It seems to me that all this spin from the media that Obama's vote does not reflect the intensity of the numbers that show up to his appearances is a case of "not seeing the votes because of the election" Here in AZ John Edwards received 7% of the vote in Phoenix after dropping out. This vote was made up completely from his supporters like me that cast early ballots weeks before he withdrew. I waited till the wed before to send in mine and changed my vote to Obama. The early voting here represents 40% of the vote. If Edwards was pulling that many votes’ weeks ago think of how many people sent in their ballots before Obama was here in person and really changed the momentum in this state. I'm sure that if someone looks at the returns that were actually cast on Super Tuesday they will realize that Obama won overwhelmingly in AZ and probably every other state except NY that had early voting. This should bode well in the coming primaries and caucuses for Obama

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hello from NJ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:06:00 GMT

Tami's post above is a great summary - wish more people looked at that record and did their research rather than repeat the campaign talking points. Thanks for the insight Tami.

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Doreen Augusta Maine — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:06:06 GMT

The reason Obama has more money is because he has more support from the "people." She has support from the old hacks and lobbyists.

Obama did not threatened the super delegates. He simply stated a fact that the delegates should represent their constituency. Again, represent the "people." Will you people never get it.

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Nicholas, Gattinger, Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:06:09 GMT

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ace-independent — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:11:23 GMT

the clinton's are status quo. they have 20 years of establishment building behind them. there political operatives percieve obama as a threat not just to the clinton's, but to them as well.

the superdelegates that are behind them and those that will join them later worry that if obama gets into the white house the complete power structure will change. some will lose their power with the philsophy of fundamental political change and bi-partisan politics.

they know this and they are going to fight back to hang on. the old guard has been their for so long, that they can't let go at all cost.

their are those who are in power that will help facilitate change because they are thinking about the parties future not themselves. what so many clinton supporters confuse change as is putting a woman or a bi-racial candidate in office.

that isn't what it is about at all. it is about changing the concept and thinking of how washington works. clinton supporters limit change to what was given to us during the last clinton administration.

some things about that time were good, but it wasn't great. what clinton supporters are saying is that is the best it will ever get. that thinking has a limited and narrow view.

those times were good, but the partisan politics caused what could have been better to be blunted.

the philosophy of change is to bring together enough people(americans) from all walks of life(a coalition), no matter race, gender, culture, financial status, state or part of the country to make washington change.

you do this with a coalition that forces their representatives to vote on the issues in accordance with what the public wants.

the youth that is being engaged now will carry our country forward beyond now.

only one candidate brings that kind of unity.

you can't just have women, white and those who won't trust a half white/half black man.

obama is trying to make this country great. he is not asking us to let him do it by himself. he is asking us to come together to perform this important task.

so you see, many of you misunderstand the concept of change.

america isn't at the root of what is important to you. you just want your candidate to win. your cynicism has been instilled into you by the politics of old. hillary has even used the politics of fear to run against what obama is trying to do(bring us together).

she has told you he is to young, he doesn't have experience, he hasn't been in washington long enough. the clinton campaign has tried race, rezko, health insurance, drugs, religion and more to kneecap this man and he has only defended himself. he has said things about the clinton's that were points of difference in policies, but for the most part he has not dealt in gutter politics.

if you can stand up to the clinton machine, you can stand up to the republicans. plus, he is from chicago. chicago ahs the roughest politics in the u.s.

obama will change the course of america if some of you weren't so scared of the real meaning of change and stop just looking at it as putting a woman or bi-racial man in the white house.

by the way, hillary can't beat john mccain.

hillary will cause every republican and conservative in america to come out and vote.

hillary will unite the gop.

the democrats will lose votes to indepedents, young voters and some dem's will stay at home. we will lose the presidency because of low turnout in the democratic party and high turnout in the republican party.

go obama 08

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Kevin — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:12:21 GMT

I'm a Democrat but if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will not support her. I don't want to return to the nineties. I want to move forward.

Don't hand this election to the Republicans. Don't vote for Hillary. Vote Obama.

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Felicity Mason, Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:12:56 GMT

I agree with one of the commentators that one or two debates are enough. Senator Clinton is short on money and she is just look for free advertising. Senator Obama is the one that is beating the odds and is doing quite well. Senator Clinton was the presumptive nominee and it is fair to say that it is a battle for her to win the nomination.

The presidential election is going to be very competitive despite who the democratic nominee is. Senator Obama has a better chance of winning against Senator McCain than Senator Clinton. The Clintons had their eight years in the White with successes and scandals. The Bush family had their embarrassing twelve years in the White House. Then you have to add Gov.Jeb Bush and the Florida debacle during the first election of the current President Bush. Enough is enough, we need a different person in the White House. I do not buy the lack of experience argument against Senator Obama. For all the experience of the Bush family and the Clinton family, they sure made some serious mistakes that was harmful and embarrassing for the country.

I am a democrat but I have to say that Senator McCain is an attractive alternative to Senator Clinton. I also agree with one commentator that if Senator Clinton wins the nomination, many independents and some democrats will defect to the republican nominee. I am betting that the republicans will retain control of the White House if Senator McCain is the nominee and Senator Clinton is the democratic nominee depending on who her running mate is.

One caveat: An Obama/Clinton ticket or vice versa looks like winner.

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Sarah Mitchell — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:13:36 GMT

It's very disturbing that people aren't asking why Obama wants to avoid debating Clinton. His refusal leads to speculation that he is afraid she will show him to be weak in the skills necessary to be president. If that weren't true then he would have welcomed the opportunity to have people see and judge both of them as future presidents. Debates are set up for voters. Does this mean that Obama doesn't respect voters right to know more than "Yes, we can." and be offered more than just words.

Something I hope people will think about.

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Pam — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:15:47 GMT

Obama will make an excellent president. He is well organized and look at how much money his campaign has raised. That shows he is on top of everything, from raising funds to actually running the whole campaign to connecting with people of all types.T be a leader one has to show all types of leadership qualities and he has one. It starts from the bottom than way up. All the power to him. Please vote for him.

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Bob, NY, NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:16:24 GMT

The Post article is just one example of how this whole story of Obama being above politics as usual is a bunch of baloney.

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RGO, California — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:17:06 GMT

In his press conference yesterday, Obama threatened the super delegates. How stupid and inexperience can Obama be. It is clear that the nomination will come down to the superdelegates .... and Obama is already threathening them ... what happen to his theme of unity .... his inexperience is beginning to surface little by little...thank god I voted for Hillary.

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Suz, Spokane, WA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:17:21 GMT

So what I am hearing is that only candidates with lots of money should have the option to choose whether to debate or not. Is that the rationale? Money dictates who will lead?
I guess that is not entirely off-base, just sad to see it in print.
And - am I correct in assuming that BOTH candidates would get publicity from said-debates? Many folks are writing in as if only one would, presumably the one who would have some substantive answers.

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Nicholas Gattinger, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:18:46 GMT

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FJR in L.A., CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:19:57 GMT

MSNBC/NBC RUNNING HEADLINES FROM NY POST

OBAMA ISSUES 'SUPER' THREAT TO TOP DEMS

Well,

Since when is this site or this network given to re-reporting headlines from the ultra-conservative, right-wing NY Post as if they were substantiated documented facts?

In fact, they even identify the "threat" as "The Message:" or their own interpretation of Obama's concern that SuperDelegates weigh the choice of their constituents less than their fear of The Clintons.

Nice attempt to camoflauge your real objective here which is to continue your blatant support of Mrs. Clinton led by Brian Williams and Tim Russert who ambushed him in the Las Vegas debate.

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nicholas gattinger, regina, saskatchewan, canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:27:53 GMT

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jane doe,new york.N.Y. — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:31:45 GMT

Hilliary wil win the nomination!!!
What does the young voters know?They need to look at AMERICA and what it MEANS.Not as a hollywood movie in which young playes take part.
And SHE DOES HAVE money!!!The ones who are rooting for obama are just setting him up as a fall guy to lose in the GENERAL ELECTION AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.oNLY hilliary can stop the republican from winning this election.WHY!Because she has been picked on and already scutinized under a microscope already.

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Nicole S — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:32:10 GMT

Look at it this way save the money and use what is availble to you. If she's getting free air time then why the hell wouldn't you use it, she'd be stupid not to make full use to it. You say she doesn't know how to budget money well I see her doing just that, save the money for when it is seriously needed any smart person would do that.

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Brett Gattinger, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:33:00 GMT

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Jeff — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:35:08 GMT

I think Obama is best for the country, but I do think the media has a tendency to favor him. But I believe they do so because Hillary does some really stupid things. The victory speach in FL and a press release that she won among all age groups and races down there is one case in point. Who doesn't see through that rediculous spin when she has name recognition and no one campaigned there. Similarly, how can you seat delegates in Michigan when only Clinton was on the ticket. And third, the constant changing voice of Bill and Hillary on the campaign trail (Iowa, N.H., S.C., and after S.C after those tactics failed misserably). I wish Obama would talk more issues during some speaches, but Hillary's political manuvering is sometimes borderline rediculous.

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Joy, Greenville, IL — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:35:25 GMT

I am tired of the press putting their own spin against the Clinton campaign. Whatever happened to objective reporting? The press is against Mrs. Clinton and pro Mr. Obama. The press needs to survey themselves (MSNBC and CNN) as to how much positive/negative reporting they are doing on national TV per candidate.

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Nicole S, Miami FL — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:35:38 GMT

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GDS — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:35:57 GMT

The difference between Obama and Clinton on issues is minimal. Any more debate at this time is simply designed to show who can one-up the other. The crucial issue here is bigger that any of the candidates individually. The issue is electability. Who can bring the party together and at the same time not unify the fractured Republican Party? Sen Clinton just has too many negative that will give the Republicans talking points to hammer her with. And plus you have some Democrats who just don't like her. Obama brings together a broad base of people together, Democrats, Independents, and som Republicans. I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate but I feel if the Democrats want the White House in '08, the Obama is the one.

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M. Fisher, Columbus, OH — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:41:20 GMT

I would disagree with many of the pundits and poll takers about who is supporting Barack Obama in his Presidential bid. I am a 70 year old white woman who has been a Republican all my life. I recently switched my party affiliation so I can vote for Obama in the Ohio primary. I intend to support him fully and will continue to hope he is the Democratic nominee. It is time for younger people to become active in politics in this country and I will be happy to see my grandchildren's generation begin to lead this country. I have never in my life given money to a campaign but I have donated more than once to Obama. I follow his campaign on line and in the media and like what I see and hear. Also, one of my friends, to whom I had not spoken about my support, submitted a letter to the editor this week indicating his support, and that of his wife, for Obama. They are also past 70 so not everyone in the senior citizen generation is supporting Hillary. I might have supported her but after Bill began to speak about issues instead of supporting his wife, I realized he would never be able to live in the White House and not be interferring in substantive issues. I do not think Hillary would be able to keep him from trying to be a "co-President" no matter how hard she tried. Besides, I think it is time to be finished with both the Bush and Clinton families. Perhaps if Chelsea decides to run for President 10 years or so in the future she could be elected by my grandchildren's generation.
I get very tired of pundits, commentators and poll takers deciding who is doing what in politics. They take a small sample of voters and think they have evidence of what is going on in this country. Clearly they can be very mistaken.

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MCH, Martin, TN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:50:14 GMT

1. So what if debates are free publicity. They both reap the same benifit. Unless of course you think Barack isn't up to it.
2. Aren't debates better than sound bits. Is't nice to hear indepth answers. We have serious issues in this country and they deserve a lengthy disscusion.
3. Debates help to level the playing field. Do we only want to hear from the canidates who can buy their way into the media. This isn't a Superbowl commercial. Few people in rual America get to attend rallies or meet canidates in person.

It's time to take this election very seriously. It could be a defining moment in our history or just turn out to be politics as usual.

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LSC - Montana — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:50:56 GMT

"Good Lord I hope this woman doesn't win. Another Clinton is the last thing we need in the White House."

T, San Antonio, TX (Sent Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:13 AM)

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Why, T? Didn't you like the 90s ... surplus, peace, friends in other countries, low gas prices .....?

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francesca kalend, arlington, VA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:53:40 GMT

OHHH, I FEEL SO BAD FOR YOU JOURNALISTS. HILLARY JUST RAISED 4 MILLIONS IN 24 HRS!! WHAT ABOUT THAT? PLEASE LET TALK THE TRUTH HERE!! OBAMA, OBAMA. WE ARE SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT HIM ALL THE TIME. IT IS BECOMING REALLY ANNOYING.IT REMIND ME LET A BIT OF BRITNEY SPEARS. PEOPLE WILL GET SO SICK OF HEARING YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT HIM. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOUR POLLS. LET WAIT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE. BY THE WAY, OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO DO IF ELECTED BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. AT LEAST HILLARY HAS 36 RS TO STAND TO McAIN.

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jo — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:00:07 GMT

Go McCain Go!

If Hillary does not take, you should take the White house. We need one with Experience, cares about immigration, Environment and have fought back the Bushes!

Obama is an opportunistic and no more... people will be really disappointed the he was even elected cause, there will be extreme right wing take over after Obama right after 2 years in office. He is a spine less like what he did with Exelan bill in congress.

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MK,MO — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:00:18 GMT

clintons unsavory connections will come into play now, her and bill's experience in arm twisting and corrupt political shenanigans is unmatched, they will do what ever it takes regardless of legality or what's right to further their dynasty, their lust for wealth and power always trumps fair play, couple this with the fact that the republicans are salivating for a hillary nomination, because they know they can beat her in the general, and you have a situation that is sure to become very ugly and dishonest, with the american citizens wishes tossed to the curb

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Adam, Sacramento — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:01:04 GMT

Clinton's right the people do need to hear from the candidates. We need to hear from them face to face not through a mediated CNN or MSNBC circus with softball questions, race baiting questions ad nauseum.

Is the clinton strategy to look desperate because that's how aides working without pay, Self loans, And begging for more debates after more than anyone can remeber in the last year have already occured makes you look.

Maybe she can get a refund on Hill Force One and trade it in for a Bus. I don't see huckabee the perennial no money candidate begging mccain for debates. I didn't see McCain doing the same when he was counted out with no money and unpopular stances on 2 major issues. No he got on a cheap cost efficient bus and actually went to the people not the NY media for free airtime in even more debates.

A big campaign is a test of managerial competence and this one even more so. Clinton having spent through her 100 million plus warchest is not a sterling endorsement of those skills. Especially when the campaign is ones first real test of executive leadership skills as it is for clinton.

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George Farr, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:09:05 GMT

We need Change but change that can be made real. REAL CHANGE from experience and the only candidate that offers that is Hillary Clinton. She alone has seen politics from both sides and understands both where we can go given the circumstances and what is holding us back. McCain can't even get conservatives to line up behind him and America has moved on...

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kris, Hbg, PA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:15:05 GMT

Yes we can... WHAT???

Get big, meaningless endorsements from "old money", Washington entrenched Kennedy's?
Vote "present" on the important issues because it may be politically incorrect to actually vote yea or nay?

Tell voters in Illinois we will stand up to the nuclear power industry and tell then how we passed a bill to require reports of any radioactive leaks after hearing from our constituents. But after all is said and done, watering down the bill after meeting with Exelon, the company whose plants created the issue and whose key executives are big contributors and bundlers to our campaign, and then never "directly" explaining why we would tell voters we passed a bill that in fact was not passed and did not become law. Or how about on the stump we tell people about the plight of Maytag workers who lost their jobs, and yet the union covering those very workers believes they got no help from the Senator, who was again taking significant contributions from one of Maytag's directors and biggest investors. Can we say "tell them what they need to hear to get elected" politics at its best? How about telling the voters of Idaho: "And then there are people who say, 'Well, he doesn't believe in the Second Amendment,' even though I come from a state -- we've got a lot of hunters…And I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." Then NOT disclose to those good people of Idaho that "he does support gun control and has a record of voting for it in the Illinois Senate." Matter of fact, when originally running for the state legislature 12 years ago, Mr. Obama filled out a questionnaire saying he "supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns." Can we say "tell them what they need to hear to get elected" politics at its best? Oh YES WE CAN lie to the American voter just to get elected, the very same thing that many of his opponent's (Sen. Clinton) detractors have said about her.

Wake up America! This is a crucial time in our history and in what our country's future path should and will be. I fail to see how simply chanting YES WE CAN over and over, is going to get us heading in the right direction again. For those of us in the working middle class, or barely hanging on to the middle class, we need to get beyond the rhetoric and stand up for ourselves by casting an enlightened and smart vote. Do we want a “movement” based solely upon political ambition riding it’s wave into the White House, or do we want the Oval Office to finally start working for change. Those of us who have been around the block a few times know well that change DOES take HARD WORK and EXPERIENCE – not just a strong rhetoric. And no, I’m not one of those “old geezers” that the Obama followers like to denigrate in their comments online. What a fine representation of hope for our country’s future – to blatantly belittle those parents and grandparents who have literally fought, bled, and in many cases worked their fingers to the bone to give the Obama youth movement many of the rights and privileges they enjoy today.

Oh and by the way, Obama is no JFK, unless you'd like to base that upon the similarities of his being able to read and deliver a well-written speech, which he did not write himself but was written by a top political speechwriter. For one thing, JFK had 14 years under his belt in the US Senate prior to announcing his run for President. He had a working knowledge of how Washington really works. Oh and by the way, JFK was just a man – and a man with many flaws, many of which are still being disclosed to this day. Obama has had 8 years in a State Legislature (where it’s still not clear when or if he voted on behalf of his constituents, or even his convictions), and roughly 1-2 years in the US Senate (where he only voted about 30 times out of 100 major votes he could and should have voted on, yea or nay), the rest of his time was spent running a Presidential campaign.

As for this race now, take a clear look at all of the exit polling. One thing I see clearly is that a vote for Obama may just be a vote for "old money", Patriarchal, politics as usual - not a vote for change for the hard-working middle class. Now I ask, exactly how would that be change? The exit polling also shows us that the youth vote is strongly in Obama's camp. Now why is that? And do the 18-25 year olds of this country really truly have a dog in this fight? Are they struggling every day to make ends meet for their families, are they worrying about whether their job will be shipped overseas tomorrow, or how they’ll afford health care AND a college education for their kids, or trying to decide whether they can afford to eat or pay for their medications this month? Rather we must ask - is this "American Idol" dumbing down of our society, which has seemingly pervaded our youth and is now presenting itself in all its glory during this campaign?

This election should very simply be about change we need right now, and who can and will roll up their sleeves and get it done starting the first day they are seated behind that big desk in that most famous of offices with all the problems we have in this country staring them squarely in the face. It should be about who has shown passion, compassion, strength, and maturity on the issues that mean the most to many, many of us right now. To say that we want change just for change's sake is not going to help us turn this economy around, nor create more jobs, nor pay the ever-increasing prices for gasoline and heating oil today. Come back down to reality America.

So I ask again – YES WE CAN...WHAT? Can someone please answer this question for us?

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KA Virginia — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:24:29 GMT

I agree with Barack’s comment that if Hillary is elected by “Super Delegates”, it will be all over for the Democrats.

Mc Cain will win and Republican will rule the White House again for generations to come.

That is because there is a lot of negative feeling about Mrs. Clinton, but also the people of the United Stats, mainly the democrats and the independents, will be disappointed with the status quo and the old establishment back on track.

Moreover, the country will be continue to be severely polarized to the extremes that never seen before with major negative consequences to our economy, health, security and world prestige.

We made the mistake in 2000 by electing Bush- Cheney duo, then repeated the fatal mistake in 2004 and now we are in the brink of making another disastrous mistake again by choosing Hillary, who will be beaten without any question in the General Election by Mc Cain.

Am I wrong?

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Chrissp13 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:26:07 GMT

God some of you Obama supporters have got to be under the age of 14 or just have that mentality. Stop with this BS personal attacks. Your supposed leader preaches up and down about Change and not using typical Washington Politics, yet his supporters are venamous and evil. You would get a lot more people to support you or at least listen if you weren't so obnoxious and childish. It's in fact you, who is splitting this party apart and that becomes clearer with each passing day.

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Fred C Dobbs Sierra Madre, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:26:48 GMT

Another pro Obama story from NBC News - to be expected.

On the last news cycle, 81% of Obama reports were positive, only 51% for Hillary. Media bias alive and well at NBC.

To those Ted Kennedy supporters - there is still room on the train that Ted and his family will be taking back to the sixties where they were as irrelevant then as they are now.

Less we all forget who is buried in a lonely grave in Plymouth, PA - Mary Jo Kopechne. May she rest in peace.

Drunk Teddy ran out and left her to drown, reporting to the police some ten hours after the incident. The diver said that it was very likely that she survived for an hour ater the car went in the water.

Drunk Teddy - still trading off on his dead brothers.

Today I donated $250 to Hillary Clinton - more to come.

Hillary Clinton - 2008!!!!!!!!!!

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David, San Diego, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:30:36 GMT

Accepting a string of debate invitations is a cynical maneuver by the Hillary camp to compensate for their flagging financial support while undermining Obama's oratorical advantage by subjecting us to more tedious Q&A events.

Obama should call her bluff and accept all of the invitations on condition that they are true debates. For example, each candidate could be allotted uninterrupted time to address issues of their own choice in each of two categories (domestic and international): 10 minutes to present, 10 minutes to respond, and 10 minutes to summarize their positions with moderator(s)functioning only as time-keeper/referees.
I don't think the Clinton camp wants to keep it real in going head-to-head with Obama. They're looking for ways to divert his message into a series of snippets to generate fresh fodder for more of the "Obama is a Reagan lover" and "Obama is a secret war supporter" misrepresentations that have served them so well to date.

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RENEA MI — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:33:35 GMT

HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE RIGHT ABOUT OBAMA NOT HAVING ENOUGH EXPERINCE.HE DOES NOT HAVE EXPERINCE IN KNOWING HOW TO GET MONEY FROM WALL STREET LIKE HILLARY DOES.OBAMA DOES NOT DO EARMARKS IN RETURN FOR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS UNLIKE HILLARY.OBAMA DOES NOT THINK LOBBYIST ARE GOOD LIKE HILLARY STATED IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEBATE.HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WANT TO LOOK WEAK RATHER THAN DOING THE WHAT IS RIGHT. SO YOU IF THAT IS THE KIND OF EXPERINCE YOU NEED TO OPERATE IN WASHINGTON I DONT NEED IT.I WANT MY GOVERMENT BACK!

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laura raleigh nc — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:35:53 GMT

As a red state democrat I will vote for John McCain if Obama is the nominee,and vote Republican for my members of Congress also. That way it will keep "Uncle Teddy" from dictating everything.

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Jerryll Moreno — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:36:55 GMT

I think that a closer analysis of the media and who really leading the campaign is needed because the media's reporting is very slanted. Not just in respect to reporting of Democratic results on Super Tuesday but the obvious disproportionate air time on most cable and network channels that favor Obama; hence, giving him free campaign coverage. As usual, a woman, even one as intelligent and accomplished as Hillary Clinton, still has to work three times as hard to get noticed.

Her media coverage has been limited in other ways as well. From the beginning of the Democratic run for nomination, there have been many stories run on the accomplishments of African Americans and how Obama falls right into the category of great Black Americans in Black History. On the other hand, I have not seen or heard one story sponsored by the media looking at the history of women in this country or touting the incredible accomplishment that it is for Senator Clinton to achieve what she has. She has come as far as Obama has, if not farther, given the fact that if she was a woman running for President with as little experience as Obama, no one would give her a second glance. Further, Obama is in fantasy land to think that he transcends race and the media has been naive for supporting that notion. His votes are all about the Black vote.

I don't want to be misunderstood because I would gladly vote for him in 15 years after he has spent some time getting some experience. Hiring Obama for President is like putting a six-year old behind the wheel of Hummer; he has no driving experience and yet the media is leading the effort to give him a license. Additionally, the press has been near sighted in their analyses of his campaign. By this I mean that while he is campaigning on the theme of change and that he isn't a Washington insider, he has aligned himself with the biggest insider there is, namely Ted Kennedy. In my view, this makes him a hypocrite.

Lastly, his alignment with Kennedy brings him so much to the inside of Washington that it makes Hillary, in my eyes, look like the outsider. Frankly, as a woman running for President, she has a much bigger hill to climb than a man, no matter what his ethnicity; and the media should give her some credit and show her some respect at least by more fairly allocating resources to the campaign coverage of the individual candidates.

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Lance Spokane wa — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:40:20 GMT

i dont see how more debates help clinton. Her war vote on the iraq war and levin amendment will be brought back up. She will again claim the levin amendment needed to call for un supportwhich is not true. This levin amendment always needed final congressional approval which would not given bush a free run at this war. now if she cant properly read bills that she votes for this does not only show poor attention to detail but also flat out incomptantance.
Or she really did read the bill and just wanted this war, which would also mean at another debate she would only be able to choices on this issue-dishonesty or incompetance as her defence. Experince did not do her well on the most important vote of her senate career. A debate will only further this topic. Right on day 1. Obama 08.

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Mary Carpenter, Lakewood, CO — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:40:21 GMT

As a "young" voter, I'm tired of people commenting on my supposed naivete in supporting Barack Obama. On the contrary, my decision to support Obama is based not simply on his persona - which is, yes, appealing - but rather on his political positions (yes, I know them), his unflagging respect for and confidence in the American people, and his desire to inspire Americans to be better citizens of the country and of the world.

Hillary is a popular leader, sure, but her style of leadership is the opposite of Obama's; while he practices motivating, grassroots leadership, Hillary practices typical top-down politics. While she claims her gender would bring change to the White House, this is a ruse; she governs no differently than most men, and plays politics with the best of the good-old-boys. Hillary cannot bring the change America needs any more than every other politician who feels the need to dictate reality to the American people.

Furthermore, because of her unavoidable entanglement in Bill's suspicious dealings (has everyone forgotten his recent international dealings with billionaires and dictators?), her credibility on the international stage will suffer. Obama, perhaps because of his "inexperience", has no such baggage. Is this really a bad thing?

The substantial difference between the approaches Hillary and Barack bring to their leadership is, I suspect, the main reason Obama has garnered so much enthusiastic support. It is no small difference, but bears directly on the future of our country. Do we want another politician in office who will further her (and her husband's) own power interests? Or do we want someone like Obama, who is determined not only to practice his principled policies, but also to lead us to a more responsible and conscientious citizenship?

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JNA, New York — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:41:12 GMT

I am a 49-year-old Hispanic female and a mother of two. I support Barack Obama and he has been the best candidate and will be the best president. Hillary's campaign has been about experience. People are forgetting that Bush had experience; he was a governor and has witnessed and learned through his father's experience in the white house. Lets not forget that the VP too has had an enormous amount of experience working with George Bush Sr. and other cabinet members. Did this experience make them qualified to be in office? I do not think so. We need a person who can bring change and Hillary will not bring change. Listen to what she is saying, "we will go BACK to the way we were in the 1990's." I was taught that BACK is not going forward. . Her strongest point is Economy; yes we are ALL suffering, but history shows that Bill Clinton raised taxes the first three years that he was in office. Economists state that it was the stock market that brought up economy, not Mr. Clinton, but his presidency greatly benefited from this. How can Hillary talk about keeping the United States safe when we saw the Trade Center hit when she was first lady, Waco, USS Coles, Khobar Towers, and Kenya & Tanzania's Embassy. The Clinton administration had Osama Bin Laden in their mist and yet, did not do anything to bring him in. These are the experiences Hillary will bring with her to the White House and if you think that Bill is not going to be Co-President, think again. We need to learn from our EXPERIENCE and vote for someone who will not have the baggage that she bring, someone who can reach over the aisle and work with the Republicans. Republicans will not work with Hillary and therefore we will have four years of frustration where nothing will be done and once again control will be lost of the Houses. LISTEN my friends, Obama will bring Unity to the parties and our country, MORALS into the White House, Prosperity to the United States and once again we will be a Proud America.

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jay — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:41:19 GMT

msnbc has dissapointed me, they are hardcore supporters of obama i never see a negative story on him on their site, even when it comes to delegate counts they pump him up take a look at all the other delegate counts have hillary winning except msnbc
USA Today Clinton 1045 Obama 960
CNN Clinton 823 Obama 741
Fox News Clinton 1024 Obama 933
NPR Clinton 1045 Obama 960
ABC News Clinton 1069 Obama 988

with all the free pumping up of obama from msnbc no wonder hillary needs more money all she gets is negative press

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Ryan, Goleta, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:52:31 GMT

The Clinton Machine are masters of deception...or at least ATTEMPTED deception.

Mark Penn says: Obama is the establishment candidate.

Translation: We want to appear as the outsider underdog, even though we have a sizeable superdelegate lead from party insiders.

Patti Solis Doyle says: We want more debates.

Translation: We want free media coverage because we can't afford to generate our own.

Hillary says: I loaned myself $5 million.

Translation: SEND US MONEY!!

Their tactics are so transparent that I wonder if anyone falls for them.

Obama '08!

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judesuper — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:55:15 GMT

Have you ever noticed that once a candidate has to start spending their own money, they never win? No one wants a candidate that buys the White house. ie. Romney, Kery, Guiliani and yes Clinton.

The information about her not having enough money except lending it to herself should have been divulged before super Tuesday. Voters have the right to know if their candidate can't get the monetary support for their campaign.

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James, Long Island N.Y — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:59:02 GMT

No more debates lets go face to face with the people. Obama is the right candidate regardles of color thats whats wrong with this nation everybody thinks in color, its time for change in america, for all people of all colors, Obama can't do any worst then bush (who can) one America

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Rev. Edward Loggins III, Waterloo, IA. — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:00:21 GMT

So many people are against Senator Clinton. The media, some Democrats, and especially Obama. Yet through all of it, Senator Hillary Clinton continues on. It really is ironic, Clinton has her enemies and McCain has his. The other persons running seem to have everyone on their side. What bothers me about Obama is what bothers so many others, and that's no one wants to really put him under the microscope, except Senator Clinton. The fact that Obama doesn't want to debate just proves he wants to be rhetorical, because that's where he's best. Someone should tell him that not voting for the war is not a good reason for running for the office of President since the number one topic is the economy, which really is strange given no one has said how the economy (once again) has become the object of everyone's attention and not those who are giving their lives on a daily basis. Anyway, Obama needs to brush up on other issues since those are the ones the Republican nominee will use against him.

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Ted, Redmond, Oregon — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:02:27 GMT

Both candidates are good and I will support whoever gets the nomination. However, i really think we Democrats need to assess the electability factor very carefully. Hillary brings a boatload of negatives with her, particularly among Republicans although not entirely. Bill Clinton, while a good president, brought a degree of negativeness to the office with his Lewinsky trysts, his questionable pardons, and, to some of us, NAFTA. All of this will accompany Hillary and she will have to keep one eye on Bill and the other on the Nation's business. I personally think that Obama is our wiser choice. Much is made of his inexperience but truthfully, Hillary doesn't have her claimed 35 years in a position that would constitute executive experience. Besides, no President makes decisions alone. They have the best and brightest advisers to help them, along with the entire American population if they are willing to listen to them. I think that Obama has certainly demonstrated that he can energize and mobilize the American people. Personally I am ready for change in the form of new leaders, fresh ideas and, especially, a unified nation. I am afraid that Hillary would guarantee us 8 more years of polarization and stagnation. Anyway that's my take from out here in Oregon.

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Ally, New York, NY — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:06:30 GMT

Why is it that the media has such a love affair with Obama and such a hate fest towards Clinton? What about reporting on Obama's his lack of experience and seasoning? What about reporting on his lack of depth/breadth of the issues? What about reporting on his "rhetoric" only campaign? What about reporting how the Ted Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, Oprah, and Maria Shriver support fell flat on it's face Super Tuesday? What about reporting that his victories were mainly the red states, which will most likely be won by the Republicans in the general election? What about reporting that Clinton is up in the Gallop Poll today by 52% to 39%. I would bet money that if the super delegates were leaning towards Obama, there would be no discussion on this topic. Yes, Obama has a lot of promise, but he is just not ready to lead our country now.

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Cal Morgan Hawesville,Ky 42348 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:12:09 GMT

MSNBC has said that Obama has lied about hilary and about his health insurance plan,(about how he's going to pay for it ). He can talk about blacks and Hilary can't.Give me a break. Let's keep the white house a white house.

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Erinn Hall, Fort Worth, TX — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:14:22 GMT

It is a shame that this has become a kind of "nanny-nanny-boo-boo" childish fight. McCain vs. Hillary is a losing ballot for those of us tired of right-wing reign, fair or not. She does not attract people outside of the traditional democratic base. She has also doomed herself by supporting the Iraq war, voting against the Levin ammendment, siding with Bush & Co. on Iran, and so on. What I find most unappealing about Hillary is that 20 years of her "35 years of experience making her ready for day 1" are years she spent married to the guy in charge. To my knowledge that isn't exactly a resume credit. While I understand she was more involved than a spouse traditionally is, she is still overstating her work history. During her own carerr she spent time as a union-busting corporate lawyer for a company that is known today as terrible in both the competitive market and employee-treatment arenas. As a woman I yearn for the day that we elect a female leader but I am going to wait to vote for the right one to do the job. Senator Clinton has just made too many "safe" and calculated political decisions for her own benefit rather than that of the American people's.

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chuck — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:15:32 GMT

Steve -- you do realize that contributions to candidates must be reported by the FEC and are limited to $2300, right? Do you actually think before you start typing?

The Hillary supporters seem to embody Clintonian principles -- it doesn't matter if it's true, say it (or write it) anyway and make them prove it isn't. The Clintons have no sense of right and wrong, truth and lies, and too many of their supporters are the same way.

Nothing matters as long as the Clintons win. Disenfranchise people, lie, dissemble, make racist statements -- no one associated w/ the Clintons is willing to say, "No, I won't do that." If it works, it's right. This is the same way the Bush-Cheney-Rove people have operated for 8 years. We don't need 8 more!

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Mary Dorton, Charlottesville, VA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:18:11 GMT

Mary, you wrote:"Or do we want someone like Obama, who is determined not only to practice his principled policies, but also to lead us to a more responsible and conscientious citizenship?"
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Can you tell us about his principled policies and how he is going to lead us to this responsible conscientous citizenship?

Because to me, this is just more of the Obama retoric. Very pretty words from a man with a wonderful speaking voice, but absolutely no subtance behind them.

I'd seriously love for you to enlighten me.

I'm planning to vote for Hillary, but I'm willing to be convinced....

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Lily — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:18:44 GMT

I think much of the country has jumped on the bandwagon with the media, in that they have an infatuation with Obama. Most people I've asked don't have a clue where he stands on the issues. I want someone who can make the right decisions, not vote present 100 times. When Mccain and the Republicans start their scare tactics again about National Security, Hillary is the one that will be able to stand toe to toe. Her achievements have not been given the coverage Obama's has, but I want a stong experienced leader, who has worked hard and is going to make the right changes, not change for the sake of change. While I am wishing, I will wish for more unbiased reporting as well.

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New Independent — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:22:04 GMT

kris, Hbg, PA - I've said it before and I will say it again, do you know of anyone who goes hunting with handguns. I don't. At least when they are hunting animals that is. People, yeah.

And by the way, at 50 I guess I would be called one of those "Old Geezers", not that I've actually heard anyone say that. But even if they did, I certainly wouldn't hold Obama to blame for it. As far as experience goes, I guess you would vote for Dick Cheney if he was running then. Or Ted Kennedy? Heaven knows they both have more experience it just doesn't necessarily make them better Presidents. And I still would like to know how being the President's wife and first lady gives you more experience to actually run the country.

I truly resent your implication that 18-25 year olds don't have a dog in this fight? I believe they would be the first ones drafted if this war isn't ended. I don't think anyone should be belittled because of their age. You're doing the opposite of what you claim other people did to the Old Geezers. I know many young people who are graduating college, losing their parent's insurance and are desperately trying to find a job. Not to mention the deficit we will be leaving for them. Also, they probably won't have social security which they have been contributing to, not to mention the environment the "older" folks have totally ignored. . . So yes, I do believe they are just as important as we are.

Yes we can - Yes we can perhaps fix some of the above. Maybe we can even stop some of the free trade agreements Bill Clinton started. How about cancelling NAFTA? Or at least making it more fair for the U.S.? Perhaps we can unite some Democrats with Republicans and Independents. Maybe people don't want the same people running the white house again. Bush, Clinton, Bush and Clinton again! We have presidents not kings (or queens). As far as Obama being for "old money" are you kidding me? The Clintons are known to be in tight with corporations. Obama was born without money and worked for people without money his whole life. Look at his voting record in Illinois.

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JB — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:22:54 GMT

If Obama thinks the superdelegates should represent the people, then how about when he doesn't win the majority of the votes but still claims victory in delegates? You can't have it both ways. Also how about he says that FL and MI should count?

The man is tempting fate saying the Republicans will not find dirt on him. I already know Hillary's dirt. He should be careful as he has quickly morphed from confident to arrogant.

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susan Pipher, San Diego, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:24:41 GMT

Erma,
Experience” is a bogus argument for Hillary:
Obama has more experience than Hillary as an elected official:
Obama: Illinois Senate: 1997-2004
Obama: U.S. Senate: 2004-2008
Hillary has only been in the U.S. Senate since 2001.

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Remus Baias, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:27:14 GMT

Dominican Republic supports Clinton!
Admit, her husband's goverment was the best one i've seen in all USA's history! and guess who was behind him? Hilary!

Right, Monica was in front.

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Linda Scheller — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:28:02 GMT

I am (was) a Clinton supporter. I say "was", because if she isn't managing her own expenses and has already over spent... How can she make me feel better about her future ability to control costs for the nation?

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mimi, FL — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:30:47 GMT

If Obama does not want to debate, then his replacement should be Sean Hannitty. I'm sure Sean has a lot to debate The Clinton's about....

jerry/corpus christi texas
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I'm sure he does, but Sean doesn't debate. He yells. Occasionally, he froths at the mouth. He cuts people off when they don't agree with him or switches the line of questioning to something pointless. He plays gotcha.

Like her or not, you have to admit that in a Hillary vs. Hannity (one "t," BTW, and Clintons plural requires no apostrophe) showdown, she'd eviscerate him and hand him his own entrails before he'd know what happened. Or before he could cut to commercial, which he also does when he froths himself into a corner.

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Stan, Chicago, IL — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:31:09 GMT

Hillary wants to do what a tired boxer does in a contest against a fresher one: tie your opponent up, grab his arms and waist time so you can rest.

Hillary, by asking for 5 debates in 4 weeks serves the same end. She wants to slow Obama down and slow his momentum up until March so she can get a breather.

Hillary trained hard for a 6 round bout for the presidency.

Too bad this is a 12 rounder, and Obama is as fresh as ever.

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russ Wells, Maine — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:49:55 GMT

If we have more debates like the one we have already had which were one sided to some canadates i wouldnt debate either...enough is enough the media controls the debates which is usually looking for news sensations which will make them look good. No way.. now if you want to have a debate with just ordinary voter and i mean low income or middle class with no cohersing from either party or media i might consider it....Then we will get straight answer and not sidelining away from the question such as if your immigration bill comes before the senate will you oppose or support it...Not by saying it will not make it is not an answer and i would like a yes or no....lets get to the economy and find out what going to happen and were all this money is comming from....Independents Unite.....

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PulSamsara — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:00:21 GMT

Go Barack !

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ace-independent — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:01:05 GMT

i have made 4 posts at different subjects since this am. i guess i am on the do not post list for some reason.

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Suzanne Burbank — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:04:35 GMT

For all his talk of "change" and "departure from politics of old" I find it mildly humorous that Obama is happy to flaunt the support of the oldest, most influentially wealthy political dyansty in US history - the Kennedys, while still claiming he is "the underdog". He loves a big crowd and the preplanned rallies, but golly can't seem to find time in his "busy schedule" to make some on-on-one time in front of the entire US in a debate with Senator Clinton. Somehow one is enough between these two? He knows she will outshine him here and that doesn;t fit into his neatly planned campaign.

He knows she is wiser, more tested and while maybe not as "pretty" on TV, she no doubt will get the job done, well. He claims race was brought into this contest by the Clintons who have long been champions for ALL Americans, regardless of color, race, religion or socioeconomic status. Yet Obama doesn't seem to take issue with the 80%+ support for him from African Americans - there is some element of race here Senator Obama, and you'd be lying to deny that. But it's not coming from the Clintons my friend.

I am voting for who I know can fix the many issues in this country with hard work and experience. I would like to say I made my decision after getting all of the facts and "how to's". Unfortunately, the only one who wants to ante up is Senator Clinton.

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BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:14:17 GMT

Don`t fall for the old hype , I have no money.
Its a trick like the tears.
What is sher going to do lie, cry, cheat & steal her way to the white house.

Damn HRC I thought you had class.

Obama '08

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Independent in CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:49:43 GMT

Why is it that the media has such a love affair with Obama and such a hate fest towards Clinton?

Her staff is often rude to reporters. Washington insiders report when they were arond in the 90's they made lots of promises to people to get them on their side - but did not keep those promises.

Google Vince Foster, Clinton Impeachment, Lewinsky, White Water....to name a few. Some of the things they have done like the Race baiting in SC are unsavory and leave those who know them better than the casual voter to give pause......

I look to a person's character to see who they really are. Since Iowa I have seen:

1) Crying in NH

2)Robert Johnson mentioning Obama's Drug use which he spoke about in his book. FYI at this point he was the 3rd Clinton Surrogate to mention this. (It took at least a week before this was corrected - after a debate where Hillary was questioned about it)

3) Misreprensentation of Iraq War Vote by Bill Clinton - Fantasy/Fairltale comment - (Conduct unbecoming for a former president)

4) Jesse Jackson Comment by Bill day of SC Primary - Just plain Ugly and not worthy of a former President

5) Tears again before Super Tuesday

6) Misrepresentation of Obama's Health care plan - this is really interesting as Bill Promised Health care when he ran and with all the 35 years experience I ask why did they not keep that Campaign Promise? ........Yep - I'm still for Obama! !

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Just Me — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:18 GMT

It's hard not to notice Clinton ran out of money and requested more debates at the same time. Free air time?

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Indepndent in CA — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:52:42 GMT

Lily - voted Present 130 times out of 4,000 votes, and voting present means you may chance your vote if the bill is changed. The Clinton Camp is counting on you not knowing these rules to get your vote.....Check out your information.

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NoObama — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:53:14 GMT

Steve -- you do realize that contributions to candidates must be reported by the FEC and are limited to $2300, right? Do you actually think before you start typing?
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Chuck, if you believe there is no way around that, you are more naive than Steve.

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jo — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:58:21 GMT

don't forget Florida and Michigan vote!