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Anti-obama — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:25:38 GMT

Go Hillary!!! I will NOT vote Obama. Terrorist!

Don't give up Hillary. If you lose, McCain gets my vote.

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ID, MN — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:03 GMT

“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn’t won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said.

Talk about disenfranchisement...

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Jade7243 — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:30:12 GMT

Small states don't count... except for when you are losing so then the small states do count. The only votes that count are from large states except for when you are losing and so then it is okay to count votes from small states. Caucuses don't count except for when you are losing and then caucuses count.

Another day, another new "theme" for the Clinton campaign. Maybe we should retitle it "Titanic 2.0." Unsinkable only until it sinks.

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Frank Paller — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:30:32 GMT

God, why are the Clinton's determined to ruin the best chance the Democrats have to win back the White House? How obvious does it need to be before they realize that they're not the ones that Democrats are excited about?

I'm so afraid that Hillary is going to make this the nastiest, least graceful exit we've ever seen in modern politics. How unreasonable is it to imagine her holding on to Obama's pant hem while he walks to the podium in Denver to accept the nomination?

Memo to the Clinton's: Don't go away mad, just go away.

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Carly, Iowa — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:30:36 GMT

Please tell me, Mark Penn, what the hell makes a state "significant"? And, as a corollary, which of the United States should we deem "insignificant?"

The arrogance is staggering...

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maggie SF, CA — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:30:39 GMT

I felt sorry for Hillary last night. I really do like her, but her campaign has really been pathetic! She signs a pledge not to campaign in Florida and Michigan because those states violated the rules. She refused to take her name off the Michigan ballot after Biden, Edwards, Kucinich, Obama, and Richardson did. (Dodd also refused to remove his name)However she made it clear publicly there was no reason to do so, because "these contest won't count". Now that she needs these delegates she is desperate, and has no qualms going back on her word. Maybe instead of getting rid of Solis Doyle, or in addition to getting rid of Solis Doyle, she should fire Mark Penn, he is sleazy and has hurt her every time he opens his mouth.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:31:06 GMT

"They also said Clinton will likely be within 25 delegates of Obama after voting on March 4 ..."
--Sounds to me like Penn, Wolfson and Guy Cecil saying that Obama is neither the frontrunner, nor the establishment candidate. I mean, if that's what they want to argue ...

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Monica L, -DC — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:31:33 GMT

Does Hillary's pledge mean nothing to her? Did she not agree to not campaign in Florida and Michigan? Does her word, like her husband's mean nothing? She was the ONLY name on the ballot in Michigan. Does Hill consider that a fair contest. I doubt that even Bush/Rove would try something this low and disgusting.

Barack has the most votes, the most states. He IS the nominee of the PEOPLE.

Hillary, this sleazy, under-handed, back room cheating is not very becoming for a First "Lady".

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Patrick, Indianapolis — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:32:18 GMT

I'm fascinated that on the one hand idiot Clinton says that the Michigan and Florida delegations should be seated because every vote counts but states that hold caucuses shouldn't matter because it is undemocratic. Actually she means that states she wins matters but states that Obama wins don't matter. What an embarassment to the party Clinton and her campaign are. Clinton is probably the worst candidate for President ever and her campaign staff are even worse.

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Girard — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:32:31 GMT

Good for Team Hillary. Let's also not forget to line up those Super Delegates. BTW, I'm so tired of Donna Brazile's whining! She's started saying she'll resign from the DNC if the Super Delegates don't vote in the manner that the "popular" delegate vote. Give me a break! Way to change the rules mid-stream Donna. Super Delegates were created for a reason and the rules are in place for a reason. If the Supers want to vote for a candidate that is trailing in the "popular" delegate count that is there right. Voting their conscience is actually their duty. So just because you worry that Obama is going to lose because the Supers weigh in (as is mandated by the DNC primary rules) doesn't make the process "unfair". If you want to change the system do it before 2012 night during the 2008 primaries. Oh yea, and stop whining!

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A insignificant state! — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:33:25 GMT

Mark Penn just slammed 20 states, what a jerk!

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John Goodman,LaCrosse,Wisconsin — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:33:31 GMT

This is not over by a long shot ! Now call Obama's office and ask him why he will not attend the planned debat in "Wisconsin" ? Wisconsin voters deserve a debate on the issues ,not just some "fancy" speeches.

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sotiredofignorance — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:34:31 GMT

So let me get this straight....the only states that count and should be respected are the ones Clinton won? Sounds pretty insulting to the rest of the nation.

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Mike D, NY NY — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:35:25 GMT

this is proof that clinton is a divisive figure. any state she hasn't won is "insignificant." here's to hoping she loses support in the contests to come.

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Larry Lewis, Madison.Wi. — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:35:53 GMT

Wake up America ! Ask yourself why Obama will not attend a planned debatein Wisconsin. Could it be he doe not want to go one on one with Clinton on the "real" issues ?

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drbob10001 — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:36:26 GMT

Clinton is promising to destroy the Democratic party to get power by insisting on getting the sanctioned Florida and Michigan votes. She will stop at nothing to try to gain power. This is unforgivable!!

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HILLARY — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:37:10 GMT

BRING IT ON OBAMA, LET'S DEBATE IN WISCONSIN. YOU AND ME ONE ON ONE.

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Anonymous — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:38:38 GMT

I consider the state I live in (Colorado) very "significant" Senator Clinton. And don't hate the caucus just because you can't organize.

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C.K. — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:38:41 GMT

so full of it. that's really all I can say at this point.

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Felix, Littleton CO — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:40:15 GMT

The grassroots will not go for changing the rules in mid-stream by seating the Florida and Michigan delegates. The people of those state knew perfectly well the consequences of holding their primaries against party rules.

If they want delegates to be seated let them have a new caucus or primary and let the candidates be allowed to campaign. Otherwise they have no cause for complaint. The idea that this is unfair to minorities is ridiculous. Plenty of states with high percentages of minorities are participating according to the rules approved long ago.

If Julian Bond gets his way and it makes it harder for Obama to get the nomination he so clearly is earning, I doubt many black voters will thank Bond for it. They are now going for Obama by 80% and 90%. They don't need Bill to be a pretend first black president anymore, do they?

And the rest of us, from all kinds if different demographics, are going for Obama in bigger percentages with every contest. The only reason Hillary did so well back in January in those states was because campaigning wasn't allowed and she had better name recognition. Naturally Hillary prefers the old results with no campaigning. Obama is so much better at it.

We Dems of states that obeyed the rules and had campaigns for our primaries and caucuses which went almost 2 to 1 for Obama won't sit still for this Rovian ploy.

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Jesse, Fallon NV — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:40:52 GMT

So here's a 21st cenutry problem for you to solve HRC... what does the junior Senator from New York plan to do after she loses the nomination?

Try to solve this question too...what promises does Senator Obama make that you think he cannot accomplish?

What solutions do you think you have? Your words/speeches are more vague than anyone's.

Don't cry before you answer! And don't answer "well, you know". I hate when you do that and it shows your lack of mental discipline.

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David Reed, Bangor, Maine — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:28 GMT

“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said. “That raises some serious questions about Sen. Obama.”

Wow. So Senator Clinton's campaign thinks that 20+ states here in the U.S.A. are INsignificant???

Good luck with that campaign.

-David R.
Central Maine

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Appauled in St. Louis — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:47 GMT

Once again the Clintons dismiss everything that does not go in their favor. How transparent! Out of one side of their mouths they say they do better in elections where more people vote. Hasen't this election brought out record voters in every state for the Dems? Then the Clintons say they are counting every deligate and opening offices in very small states all the while saying that the previous primaries were held in states that are not significant states. So what is a significant state and what isn't all comes down to what they deem significant. HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE AND HOW INSULTING TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE STATES THEY ARE DISMISSING. And we wonder why she has earned the reputation of being polorazing!!! I live in Missouri and she did all she could to win here and now suddenly it is not a significant state! I'm insulted and baffled. Clintonism at it audasious best!!

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Lucinda, Bronxville. NY — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:44:22 GMT

So a Clinton is not in the "promise" business? What is new about that? They have broken too many promises, over and over. And now she wants to break her promise about Florida and Michagen. Hew newest slogan sounds like the motto of a consulting firm, not a President. Enough already.

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Ron, TX — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:45:43 GMT

They do better... the more voters vote? Obama has the highest number of actual votes.

They are opening offices in areas "where they can be successful"? So Clinton's idea of being president of the UNITED States of America, is not giving one hint of care and concern to areas that don't overwhelmingly support her? She wants to be the President of the Hillary States of America?

Clinton wants Michigan and Florida to be counted? Why didn't she raise this concern several months ago, when the decision was first made to punish the states? At one point in NH, she even said Michigan didn't matter, so it's no consequence that she left her name on the ballot!

What's Hillary's "solution" to getting something done in Washington when every Republican refuses to vote with you? She obviously can't build a coalition by only focusing on places she's strong... She doesn't seem to care about reaching out to people who don't agree with her. What's her "solution" to Iraq? She won't give a timetable or "solution" for getting out. I haven't heard her "solution" to passing health care where she failed horribly before... What's her "solution" to not making the same mistakes we made with Iraq? She refuses to admit she was wrong! "Blame Bush" is hardly a "solution"...

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ST — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:45:46 GMT

My goodness...Clinton has no ability to lose gracefully. How can she continue to dismiss Obama's stong finishes in so many contents - primaries included - when her own accomplishments have been so small given all the natural advantages that she had going into this primary season?

I know that a lot of people have said that Clinton will fight to the bitter end for this nomination, but I guess that I gave her too much credit in believing that she'd have the decency to bow out without dragging herself and our party through the mud. It is her right to fight as hard as she wants for this nomination, but of what use will it be if it's perceived that she stole the nomination from Obama?? After all, she will be dealing with more than just Republican and Independent opposition...she'd be dealing with (at least) 50% opposition within her own party. Is it more right by Clinton's standards to get the Democratic nomination or to have a Democrat in the White House? For all her talk of caring so much for America's future, she sure has an interesting way of protecting it.

I really hope that Dean and her remaining supporters can knock some sense into her about not fighting tooth-'n-nail for this nomination because it will only hurt us Democrats in November.

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Steven S., Chicago, Ill — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:46:02 GMT

When is the natonal media going to come down on the Clinton campaign and chastise them for cheating by trying to change the rules of the game after the game has started? What proportion of the delegate count from Michigan should Obama get for the "uncommitted" vote, Clinton's main competitor there since the rules going in were that IT DID NOT COUNT!

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MG, St. Louis, Mo. — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:46:26 GMT

Another campaign slogan “21st Century solution business and not the promise business.” That's catchy and it is guaranteed to ring as hollow and phony as "Ready on day one". Please!

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Paul Mankins, Des Moines, Iowa — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:46:32 GMT

I find it disgusting that, after agreeing with all of the other candidates and the DNC not to play in Florida and Michigan, the Clinton campaign now thinks those votes should count. I don't think the party is going to heal itself if we have a Florida ala 2000 decision that gives the nomination to Clinton on a technicality. It's bad enough that the Super delegates (most wanting to maintain the status quo at all costs) are siding with Clinton and not with the will of the electorate. Now, when even that advantage doesn't appear as if it will be enough, she wants to go back and count votes that she agreed shouldn't be counted. It is going to be hard for me to support her if she wins this way. I'm a Democrat, but McCain isn't looking that bad.

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Philip, Bloomington, IN — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:46:51 GMT

Virgina's not a significant state? Voter turnout of almost a million is not a large turnout? The Clinton campaign's wheels are really spinning now. It'll be interesting to see if it gets them anywhere.

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John Banning, Springfield, MO — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:47:43 GMT

Why won't Hiilary release her tax returns? We can safely assume that something (things) are in there that can be used against her. If she releases them now, it will be Democrats criticizing her. However, if she waits until after (and now IF) she is nominated, then it will be Republicans criticizing her; and she dismiss those criticism by, once again, crying that a 'vast right wing conspiracy' is out to get Bill and her.

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PEM, Central Jersey — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:49:01 GMT

You mean 20 or so states (So far) are not significant?

Tell that to someone from one of these states.

“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states"

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KM — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:49:20 GMT

"within 25 delegates, including superdelegates"

That is almost precisely where they are now! Does that mean they do not think they will net many pledged delegates on March 4? I understand their addiction to "superdelegates" but that is a poor horse to try to ride to the nom on. Unlike pledged delegates, supers can switch who they support (having the support of one now does not mean they will support you come convention time).

I understand that it is hard to concede defeat, especially after a long hard fought battle, but for the good of the party if they acknowledge they are not going to have more (or even close to) popularly elected pledged delegates even after March 4 she should suspend her campaign. Continuing to press ahead only means an ugly nasty convention fight that, even if she is successful in winning (fights on the credentials committee, twisting the arms of uncommitted supers, loud raucuous floor fights, etc.,), would result in nothing more than a murder-suicide for the Dem party come November. Heck, look at the recent Rasmussen head to head general election matchups: Hilliary is up only two points in NH versus McCain (43 to 41), but Obama wins by seven (the state he lost in the primaries). She loses Colorado by seven, but Obama beats McCain in Colordao by six points.

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Fred App, Charlottesville, VA — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:50:14 GMT

So we're defining "significant" states as what? New Jersey and California? And New York counts even though it's Hillary's home state, but Illinois doesn't because it's Obama's? And Massachusetts is significant but Virginia and Maryland aren't? Talk about gerrymandering.

I'm sure all those voters in the insignificant states would be just excited as hell to come out and vote for Hillary in the general election after all the warm things she's said about them.

By the way, if caucuses are illegitimate, does that include Nevada? And will it include Texas, if she wins?

Please. I've got two little kids, and they don't whine nearly as much.

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R. Forbes, Orlando FL — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:51:15 GMT

WHAT A JOKE!! HRC thinks that only the states that favored her are the ones that should count. How desperate, transparent, and downright nasty of her to be dismissive of the country as a whole. Last time I checked, the good ole US of A was made of FIFTY (50) STATES, not just the 8 that voted for slime!! And she can forget getting MI and FL AS-IS! If they are to count, it will either be 50/50 or with a re-do... AFTER Obama has an opportunity to actually campaign here. So glad my money is going to an honest candidate and not the HRC slime-train! BILLARY has lost their base, and to think I actually used to be part of it!! Now I see why the Repubs hate them so.

FIRED UP!! WE'RE ON THE WAY OBAMA!! YES WE CAN & SI SE PUEDE!!

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Ron Allen — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:51:20 GMT

Hire gun men and swords men, then. You are so desperate that desperation rather than giving voters the chance to make their decision this nominating season.
Remember, you, Obama and Edwards agreed to the rules of your party and also agreed not to campaign in states that are in violation of national party rules. Now because thigns did not go the way you wanted, you will fight with defiance and arrogance. Sorry!

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CMH, Des Moines, IA — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:52:14 GMT

“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said. “That raises some serious questions about Sen. Obama.”

GIVE ME A BREAK! we here in iowa were a "significant state"--she just didn't win here, and left town with her aides dismissing a victory here as equivalent to "winning a mayoral election." well, that was one heck of an important mayoral election as without his victory here, i doubt obama would be LEADING her in this race.

i'm sick of the clinton's dismissing everyplace they don't carry the day as inconsequential--because it was a caucus state, or black people voted there, , or bill never won there, or the weather was bad...blah, blah, blah...

deal with the fact that you are running an inferior campaign, and not exciting the electorate anywhere close to the way obama is! he is running all 50 states--when he loses someplace, he graciously says something about how clinton ran a strong campaign, and it's a competitive race. and then he goes out and tries to win those voters over--be they latinos or older white women. he doesn't dismiss her voters as unimportant! not classy, on clinton's part!

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J in Cincy, OH — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:52:58 GMT

Took them long enough for them to spin and react to all of these lopsided losses. Unfortunately, it will not be enough because Obama is the better candidate. He has more experience, better organization and financial management, a better and more substantive plan for the US in all facets if one actually takes the time to read it and way better judgement. Clinton is moving desparately now and it shows. I applaud her for fighting, but ultimately Obama will win the nomination and the presidency.

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Brenda Uguru, humble Texas — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:53:25 GMT

Hillary Clinton broke the rule set by the democratic party not to campaign in Florida, because Florida has moved their date, and I think any body that breaks a rule is subject to a penalty or punishment. I don't see how she can bring that issue back later.

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Ellen Baum, Richmond VA — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:54:10 GMT

[“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said.]

So, the states Obama has won . . . are not significant?

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Tiffany — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:54:12 GMT

I like that.......solution business versus promise business.

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ladiabla, tx — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:56:02 GMT

sounds like someone is getting desperate...

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Martin — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:56:24 GMT

Obama doesn't dare to debate Hillary, because he has just empty words while Hillary provides real solutions for real problems!

Obama is hot air!

Hillary 08!!!

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Martin — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:57:19 GMT

Obama doesn't dare to debate Hillary, because he has just empty words while Hillary provides real solutions for real problems!

Obama is hot air and an annoying voice!

Hillary 08!!!

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Jerry Albright, Forest Grove, OR — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:57:27 GMT

Well, another question to be asked of Chief Strategist Penn is "could we possibly have a nominee who won't even campaign in the 'littler' states?" Hillary moved right from Super-Tuesday on to campaigning in Texas and Ohio for their March 4th primaries! because they have more delegates? Is she running for President of the United States or President of the Big states only?

She attacks Obama's Health care plan, not because there's anything wrong with it, but more so because it isn't hers. it's much more Democratic in that it incentivises people to purchase health-care rather than mandating it.

and maybe he doesn't want to debate every week because it takes 2-3 days to prepare for each one. Time he'd rather spend meeting people he's asking to vote for him.

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sg, michigan — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:58:26 GMT

How can anyone count Michigan delegates? Only one viable Democrat was on the ballot (sorry Kucinich). Hillary cannot automatically claim victory here.

The only solution is to hold a Michigan primary all over again. The first results were tainted as Democrats and independents voted (if at all) "undecided" or for a least-hated Republican (which may explain Romney's victory).

But I'd like to know who is going to pay for another Michigan primary? Tax payers? The DNC? Hillary Clinton?

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Carthage — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:58:30 GMT

Oh, how I wish for either Ohio or Texas to go for Senator Obama, so we can save the party a lot of agony (and money and time). Will she really not go down gracefully? Will she really go scorched-earth, no matter the cost in November and beyond? How sad...
If she can't even run a campaign (where she got so many things handed to her to begin with, as the name recognition, $ raising ability, establishment endorsements etc etc), how does she claim to be ready to lead the country? George Bush is howing us how dangerous it is for a "leader" to live in a cocoon, and we cannot afford this. Given the FACTS that she has zero cross-over appeal and independents swing in favor of McCain, how can she claim to be able to win? Plus, she's not going to be making many friends among the people fervently supporting Sen. Obama (i.e. the FUTURE fo the party) - so with her ceiling even higher, she cannot count on all of the dem base, esp, after a nasty and to-death fight she's pledging. She's smart - now she can prove she's wise, and she could show that we are wrong when we think that's it's all about them, always, first and foremost....

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patrick castille kaplan la. 70548 — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:58:45 GMT

Obama is dancing to a song with out delegates that he
only thinks he has.

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:59:35 GMT

Please !! Please !!

Call, write or email your Representative and Senators

Demand that the Michigan and Florida delegations
NOT BE SEATED !!

They broke the rules, they can't be counted !
This was decided BEFORE EVERYONE VOTED

If people thought their votes would count.....
More people would have voted

Don't let BILLARY STEAL THE NOMINATION !!

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Jason, Miami — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:00:04 GMT

She should fight for every delegate. In Florida, the republicans moved up the primary as they control the house, senate, and governor. In addition, you seat the delegates as is. Any do over is unfair to the voters and both candidates at this point. Yes Hillary won and although no candidate campaigned in Florida Mr. Obama was the one that actually ran commercials leading up to the primary. Thus, the votes should stand as is!

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Pia NJ — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:00:13 GMT

Blah, blah, blah, Hillary and camp, who cares what your strategy is now, you lost and are going to lose even more, so go home sore loser.

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David, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:00:39 GMT

What this campaign really needs to do is unload the load that IS Mark Penn. Haven't won any "significant" states? Is someone with the title of chief strategist really so obtuse as to dismiss the voters in the 20-something contests his candidate has lost?

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Brown — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:00:50 GMT

I would rather go with someone that gives me a SOLUTION and PROMISE they would work with me to get results, than someone that will give SOLUTION and LIES.

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Chris Boggs, PHX, AZ — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:01:06 GMT

circling the drain

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nuanced — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:01:11 GMT

Business is an unfortunate term for them to use.

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:02:23 GMT

'...the Illinois Democrat's political base is
expanding deep into Clinton's turf -- including among
women and working class Democrats...'

It's starting to slip away for Hillary, isn't it ?

In Maryland: 'Obama again won among Latinos: 53
percent to 47 percent...'

'...The Huffington Post
Sam Stein

Clinton's Turf Invaded: Obama Wins Women, Working
Class, White Males

February 12, 2008 08:17 PM

The Virginia Democratic primary was supposed to be
Sen. Hillary Clinton's best hope for the so-called
Potomac Primaries. But a look at exit polls following
a significant victory for Sen. Barack Obama shows that the Illinois Democrat's political base is expanding deep into Clinton's turf -- including among women and working class Democrats.

In Virginia, Obama outdid Clinton among women by a
margin of 58 percent to 42. He also captured the
majority of those voters who make less than $50,000:
59 percent to 40 percent. And even bested Clinton
among Latinos by a margin of 55 to 45, though the
later made up a small portion of the voting public and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Indeed, Obama had strong performances across the
board. He narrowly lost the white vote to Clinton, 48
percent to 51 percent, but won the majority of white
men in the state, 55 percent to 43 percent. That
group, as recently as the South Carolina primary
several weeks ago, also seemed firmly in the Clinton
camp.

Obama also maintained what has become the most
reliable demographic elements of his electoral base.
Ninety percent of blacks supported the Senator, as did 66 percent of those under 40-years-of-age, 66 percent of independents, 70 percent of Republicans who voted in the Democratic primary, and 58 percent of post-graduates.

Update:

The exit polls from Maryland pretty much tell the same story. Obama won ever portion of the state, both the city and the suburbs. He won every income level as well, except for those voters making over $200,000. He won among those who said the economy was the most important issue as well as those who most valued the war in Iraq. And he won the majority of every age group.

Obama again won among Latinos: 53 percent to 47
percent (although the group again comprised a fairly
small portion of the polling data). He was also close
among whites: 46 percent to Clinton's 51.

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American Voter — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:02:37 GMT

The Clinton's should take the high road, although not likely given thier record, and withdraw now!

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arshi in Malibu — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:04:24 GMT

Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan and they expect it to count. Hillary's camp is truly delusional.

And it's going to be hilarious hearing the spin from them once they win Texas considering their argument that she wins the states that matter for the general. but

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Dane Jenkins, Milwaukee WI — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:05:10 GMT

{ The [Clinton] campaign says it will fight to seat Michigan and Florida, }

You mean the states that Clinton and the rest of the Democrats signed a pledge not to campaign in because those states violated the rules? So everyone thought Hillary was just being sloppy by not taking her name off the ballot in Michigan, like every other candidate did. No, she was setting herself up in case she needed those delegates. Cunning doesn't even begin to describe her behavior. It's more like maniacal.

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:05:40 GMT

If MI and FL are to be seated, let them re-vote first. Clinton thinks that she played by "the rules"? She played by HER rules which are "win at any cost, by any means necessary" opponent and party be damned. Isn't that the kind of politics that has us with a demented monkey as President?

At every turn Hillary and her campaign try to imitate the Obama campaign. I know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but this is ridiculous. Every successful turn he's made, she's adopted the following week. Sadly, it's a week late and a dollar short.

Hillary needs to give up the ghost. I think Mark Penn and Co. are using that new fuzzy math to do their numbers. When the delegates are counted and the Super Delegates see that the only way to win the White House AND hold Congress is Barack Obama, they will leave Hillary's Titanic of the campaign in the frozen waters.

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Kevin Thomas — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:05:41 GMT

YOU ALL NEED TO READ THIS KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

Interesting: Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (?Filegate?) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open ?slots? in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. - Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume?. Sounds more like an organized crime family?s rap sheet. please read the following information gathered from the Library of Congress. Feel free to check these records for yourself; better still, read a little more, and try and stay current before posting assinine comments: Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system. There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record. Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. . . . My last point: Obama needs name recognition, he needs to be among the people, so people feel like they have access to him. HRC's debate challenge is more about the fact that her campaign is running low on money and she gets free air-time without spending anything. Would you give up the chance to see 20,000 voters up close and personal to be on a televised debate? No way! Obama, stick to your guns. Debate on your terms, not Hillary's! Go Obama 2008!

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:06:57 GMT

Why does Hillary have a 'rogues gallery' ?
Maybe rats run in packs

From Huffington Post:

'...Fallen Angels In Clinton's Rogues' Gallery

November 17, 1997

One of the most distressing features of our current
political system and the Clinton White House in
particular, is the way they turn otherwise honest,
caring, idealistic individuals into spinning,
rationalizing, truth-twisting defendants desperately
trying to stay out of jail. Last week, we saw the
results of this transformation in Hillary Clinton's
former Chief of Staff Maggie Williams and in Interior
Secretary Bruce Babbitt, whose testimony to Congress
is now under investigation by the Justice Department.

Maggie Williams' case is particularly poignant. Last
week, she testified at the House Government Oversight
Committee hearings about her relationship with serial
donor Johnny Chung. After spending the afternoon
mesmerized by her contortionist testimony, I watched
an actress in Anna Deavere Smith's new play "House
Arrest" portray Williams and express her hopes that
she would really make a difference in the lives of
children and those in need. And I have no doubt that
is what Williams originally believed her tenure at the
White House would be about. Instead, it turned out to
be about lie detector tests, racking up over $300,000
in legal bills, and spinning -- the committee, the
press and perhaps even herself.

You can see at once the toll this has taken on her. I
remember meeting Williams at the start of the first
Clinton term and being impressed by her presence, her
passion and her sense of humor. And here she is now,
having chosen to leave the White House to live in
Paris, looking tired, heavy -- defeated.

Ever since her days as a student at a parochial school
in Kansas City, loyalty has been a Williams trademark.
The French nuns at her school divided the class into
groups with their own distinct dress colors. "We all
learned to develop this incredible loyalty to our
color," Williams once explained. This loyalty was
transferred to her bosses. The Washington Post
described her working motto as "let them set the
mission, let me get it done." But at some moment
during Clinton's first term, the mission shifted from
saving the country to saving the first couple.

For an idealist like Maggie Williams, maybe the first
lady was the embodiment of the mission, the only means
at hand through which the ends she believed in could
be achieved. But one thing led to another. And
allegations that she removed Vince Foster's files were
followed by allegations that she sold access to Johnny
Chung -- until this past week, she found herself
trying to jerry-fit her fund-raising involvement into
the nobility of her once-worthy hopes. Back in 1993,
Williams said: "Everybody hates the big injustices.
... But I hate even the little injustices, even the
way a sales clerk treats somebody who is shabbily
dressed and happens to go into a nice store."...'

How Clintonesque....
It sound like the Bush administration

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:10:55 GMT

WOW! Clinton now says that only certain states are "significant." How well would this serve her in a general election? Virginia, Missouri, Washington, Wisconsin, Georgia, South Carolina -- not significant?

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Dee Jackson, Columbia, TN — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:11:26 GMT

I find the Clinton campaign's dissing of the so-called "unimportant" states to be terribly offensive. If you are running to be President of the UNITED STATES, then every state in the union and the citizens residing in those states should matter. It should not matter if you are a citizen from California or from Idaho. This is exactly why Obama should be President, because he appeals to Americans from all walks of life and because he has grown the Democratic base (not to mention the base of the electorate in general) like no other!

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dme 4 obama — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:13:36 GMT

So, Hillary Clinton and the Clinton campaign think that out of Maryland, Virginia, DC, Louisianna, Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Deleware, Georgia, Connecticut, Alabama, South Carolina, Maine, Washington, Nebraska, Minnesota, Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, Colorado, and Iowa the "only state that is significant" is Illinois???

Are you guys listening to this? Are you paying attention? That's the Clinton machine - chew them up and spit them out and when they don't go your way, just say that didn't matter in the first place.

WAKE UP and smell the stink that is the Clinton machine. Use 'em and use 'em. The arrogance makes me sick.

Obama 08

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Philip, NY — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:14:54 GMT

A bunch of cheaters and crooks running Hillary's campaign. A feather of birds flock together?

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Ellen Friedberg, Wayne, New Jersey — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:14:56 GMT

I just heard "neutral" Al Sharpton state the voters of Florida will be deprived of their civil rights if the delegates from Florida are seated and counted. I'm a bit confused by this statement. I think it is the exact opposite. Yes, the DNC penalized Florida and Michigan because they voted when they did, but holding a new election, as Sharpton suggested, would be depriving the more than one and a half million voters of their civil rights. Obama and Clinton did not campaign in either state, but their surrogates did. People voted and these voters voices should be heard. All the candidates should receive their appointed delegates. Floridians were robbed of their votes a number of years ago. Do we want to do it again?

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Brian, Chicago, IL — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:15:17 GMT

I find it disheartening that Senator Clinton's Campaign , since they are losing and Obama is getting very strong support, wants to seat Florida and Michigan's Delegates. Didn't she in fact agree to not campaign there as part of an agreement to punish those states for going against the Democratic parties rules? It is obvious why she won those states, she was the only one who went to campaign there!

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David, Denver, CO — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:08:04 GMT

First off, why Obama isn;t debating is because he doesn't have to, he has made his point to many Americans and they are flocking to it, judging by the way voting has gone. Secondly, who calls Obama a terrorist, that is retarded, if you say that you shouldn't vote at all. People are so dumb these days. Clinton is boring, ugly, and would basically be voting for Bill again. Lastly, now that she is losing its funny that she wants to count Michigan and Florida she agreed not to but the cry baby realizes she is done for. THank God

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David (Seattle, WA) — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:12:04 GMT

How many debates do we need? There have already been 18 with two more coming. Who really was looking forward to debate #21?

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Bob in Denver — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:13:46 GMT

Mark Penn has apparently forgotten they are trying to win the DEMOCRATIC nomination. Their divisive nature has them insulting Democrats by trying to change the rules that were agreed to by all campaigns. (They already attempted this in Nevada and look how successful they've been since.) Boy am I sick and tired of Hillary Blinton.
Obama/Webb '08!

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kc — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:26:47 GMT

Democracy for America has a petition asking the superdelegates to follow the will of the people. Sign on here: http://www.democracyforamerica.com/votersdecide

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S. Ruff, Virginia — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:50:37 GMT

Lost one!

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The man who served as national manager of former President Clinton's 1992 campaign endorsed Sen. Barack Obama on Wednesday.

David Wilhelm, who led the campaign and later became chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Obama had the unique ability to encourage cooperation as a 65-percent president after the divisive years of a 51-percent majority. He was referring to the notion that Obama could govern the country with the support of a large coalition, as opposed to more polarized support for President Bush.

Wilhelm is a superdelegate who was previously uncommitted in the race

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Njean Curl, Fontana, California — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:00:38 GMT

Here is the solution to the dilemma for the Democrats with Michigan/Florida/Superdelegates: Count the States votes, even though they shouldn't be; letter the Delegates have one vote not 10,0000; in other words to coin an old phrase: ONE MAN ONE VOTE!!!!!!

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Mary — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:03:30 GMT

I can see why Michagin shouldn't be counted. But I don't see any reason why FL wouldn;t be counted. Millions of people came out and voted their preference - Hillary won by a huge margin. The only person who did campaign there was Obama who ran ads despite committing not to and he still lost.

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Daniel Jensen, Columbus Ohio — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:07:39 GMT

Hillary, won't slam dunk Ohio... The wheels are coming off...

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Anna Molly — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:09:44 GMT

Senator Clinton’s strategy to fight for every delegate is the only strategy that can work right now. She needs every delegate she can get. The numbers are now stacked badly against her. She has to try to cut into Senator Obama’s lead wherever she can, and still hope to win the larger states outright. She needs something like 55 percent of every available delegate, and after Wisconsin, she made need from 57 to 60 percent. That’s beginning to sound improbable, if not impossible.

What I find ironic is the fact that delegates are not awarded according to how many people actually vote, but rather according to how many people COULD vote. The number of people who actually show up at the polls, even in the larger states, is totally irrelevant. The same number of delegates are awarded per state, either way. This counsels for a national primary, of course. Every vote should count. Period.

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Marihelen, Fort Worth, TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:12:05 GMT

"Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn’t won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said."

The big states Hillary has won are reliably Democratic and will go blue in the general election regardless of whether she or Obama is the nominee (ie, CA, NY, NJ). Texas will not go Democratic in the general election, regardless of whether she or Obama is the nominee. Yet these are the big states Clinton is relying on to secure the nomination. Something is very wrong with this picture.

It is EXACTLY the kind of states that Obama is winning that will determine the winner of the November election -- small and medium swing (purple) states. Yes, Hillary did win TN and AR, and they are potential swing states. But Obama has won far more of these kinds of states and even inched out Clinton for Missouri, which is a noted bellweather state.

The real test will be Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio, which are the kind of states Democrats need to win in November. And it underscores why it was such a travesty not to have a real, competitive primary election in Michigan and Florida where the candidates could campaign. Democrats needed to know how these states would have voted in a normal campaign process with adequate TV and personal exposure to both candidates for a period of time and with both of their names on the ballot (which did not occur in Michigan).
We needed to know how these states would have voted had campaigning not been restricted.

If a nominee wins the Democratic nomination by having only large states voting for them (all of which states are either reliably blue or red and noncompetitive in the general election), it does not bode well for our hopes to win independents in the general election.

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Brenda T Gilmer, TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:13:11 GMT

I think that the Florida and Michigan votes should count as is. They are part of the United States and the people there that went out to vote should have their votes counted! Oboma is the one who violated the pledge in Florida and ran commericials!! He is a bag of wind who tries to rib up everybody by promises of hope and change, yet he's yet to say what or how he plans to do that or how he is going to finanice it! Oboma, are you scared to debate Hillary in Wisconsin? If you are, what will you do with the first crisis should by some chance you were to make it to the White House?

GOOD LUCK HIllARY, and GOD BLESS YOU !!

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Ron, Phoenix — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:13:31 GMT

To whoever called Obama a terrorist - Name one reputable news source that indicates Obama has any links to anything at all that would cause you to label him a terrorist! Check out any reputable source (e.g. www.snopes.com, www.msnbc.com, www.cnn.com). Anyone who takes 30 minutes can easily find the truth. The only people who believe that garbage didn't bother to do any real research.

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Jerome, New York, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:18:55 GMT

Trying to win the nomination by claiming delegates from a state where she was the only one on the ballot? Those are the kinds of elections they have in China. I used to love Hillary. Now I am appalled by her.

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Lilliana, San Antonio, TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:21:27 GMT

I was undecided. Initially I was leaning Obama, I was excited by his positive message of unity. Recently the cult of personality and fanaticism of his campaign and a portion of his supporters started turning me off.

Now democrats are sounding like the republican attack wing: using the same propaganda and name calling invented by Newt Gindrich and perfected by Karl Rove.
Pundits, columnists and politicians, pay attention: there is a new momentum brewing: the one of the democrat who will not join in the Clinton hunt to elect the new popular kid on the block. Am I basing my vote on something other than platform and record? Yes: I am basing it on my principles and sense of fairness. I will not defame Clinton to elect Obama. If Obama is to be elected by shaming and betraying the Clintons, I will not have part of it.
NO se puede con traicion!!!

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David, New Jersey — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:23:32 GMT

I love her spin on things saying that only big states count. Well I don't know where they have been but this country has 50 states, not just a few big ones. That comment will kill her in the general election. And saying that Obama winning red states on Super Tuesday were insignificant because they will never go Democrat, I believe that he got more votes than every Republican in those contests. However she is now banking on Texas (quite possibly the REDDEST state) and calling it significant

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USAFVET, Tucson, Az — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:24:47 GMT

LMAO @ Anti-O. Do you have evidence that Barak is a Terrorist? Please grow up, can we have adult debate without all this non-sense. We dont have to like each others candidates but at least be rational.

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Marie — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:26:14 GMT

Obama is not a terrorist. Hillary is a proven liar, and a failure (Iraq, healthcare, the bankruptcy bill and support of NAFTA, for examples). No one campaigned in MI and FL. You are a cheater if you think that some hack with name recognition deserves to have people seated. Why is she afraid to let everyone campaign and vote? Because she loses when people meet Obama. As for debates, there have been 18! And there are 2 more. Only the loser wants more debates, too many -and she wants to get free airtime and to keep Obama away from voters he meets and wins. How can you criticize him for not debating in WI when he is campaigning there now through the 19th whereas she is only putting out negative ads there -from TX?!

Plus I am so sick of HRC dismissing every place that she loses, with one sorry excuse after another. I am so sick of HRC and her clan acting like Clinton did not have a decade or so of name recognition and establishment backers before Obama, in the words of a former Bill Clinton supporter "out-worked, out-organized, and out-raised her." HRC is a divisive, sore loser and so her a fair number of her supporters by these comments.

I am so glad that most Americans see through her. Hence she has lost the pledged delegate lead and the popular vote.

I don't want Bill Clinton back. And I never want Hillary.

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David, New Jersey — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:28:16 GMT

For the people complaining about not debating in Wisconsin, please stop sharing your ignorance to the world. The candidates have had 18 DEBATES so far and it's basically the same thing over and over. Do you think every state should have its own debate? The people should actually be meeting the candidates on the ground and truly understanding who they are and what that stand for.

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Kathy, Honolulu — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:35:16 GMT

I say let Clinton go back on her word and demand that Michigan/Florida delegates be seated. Let her petulance show. Every time she acts as if losing is depriving her of what is rightfully hers, Obama soars. She doesn't get it. That kind of politics is over. He's a breath of fresh air, asking us to soar as a great nation, she's a stale shrill wife of a fallen idol that is turning to the Karl Rove playbook. Look what that got us.

Comedians call it flop sweat. Once it hits, it's all downhill.

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YELLOW DOG DEM. AR. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:35:36 GMT

OBAMA'S RIGHT WING SUPPORTERS ARE MAKING ME WONDER IF HE IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE GUY'S LIKE BUSH WAS. CLAIMING TO BE ONE THING AND TURN OUT TO BE ANOTHER. I THINK HE IS A SHILL FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. PROBABLY ANOTHER ONE OF CARL ROVE'S IDEAS FOR THE REPUBLICAN'S TO KEEP POWER. BUSH GAINED HIS POWER AND GOT US INTO A SENSELESS WAR ON LIES.
ALL OF THE OBAMA BLOGGERS ARE USING THE SAME B.S
AS THE OLD TIME ATTACK MACHINE THAT WAS CONSTANTLY YAPPING AT THE HEELS OF THE CLINTON'S IN THE NINETIES. YOUR NASTY WORDS SAY MORE ABOUT YOU
THAN ABOUT THE CLINTON'S. HOW COULD ANY ONE WHO HAS NOT BEEN ASLEEP FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS HAVE ANYTHING BUT ADMIRATION FOR THE CLINTON'S
I DON'T THINK MOST OF YOU REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING. IF YOU REALLY PAID ATTENTION YOU WOULD KNOW OBAMA WAS THE ONLY DEMOCRAT THAT HAD ANY ADVERTISING RUNNING IN FLORIDA.
ALL OF THE NAMES WERE ON THE BALLOT.
HILLARY HAD A FUND RAISER AFTER THE ELECTION.
OBAMAHEADS SAY SHE WAS BETTER KNOWN THAN THE OTHERS, BUT NOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO DEBATE IN WIS. BECAUSE HE SAYS WE KNOW ENOUGH ALREADY. HE SAYS THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY DEBATES ALREADY. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, ALL I HAVE HEARD FROM HIM IS A LOT MORE FLUFF THAN STUFF. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REAL STUFF,
ASK HILLARY.
SO FAR ALL OF HIS IDEAS ARE RECYCLED FROM THE SMARTEST ONE OF THE 4 REMAINING CANDIDATES

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
HILLARY CLINTON, THE REAL DEAL
GO AFTER THOSE FLORIDA VOTES HILLARY.
THE PEOPLE SPOKE.
THEY SPOKE FOR YOU.!!!!! OBAMA WOULD BE SCREAMING.

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James, Washington D.C — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:37:57 GMT

If Obama has more pledged delegates and popular vote at the end of the primaries even if you count Florida and Michigan the GAME IS OVER for Hillary. If the super delegates and the DNC are dumb enough to give the nomination to Hillary. If Mccain should ask Obama to be his running mate. Hillery would loose in a landslide.

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JPS — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:39:57 GMT

Just wanted to mention that voter turnout in Florida was high because of the important property tax bill on the ballot to be voted on primary day. It didn't have everything to do with the presidential primaries, unlike Hillary would have you believe.

Moreover, in light of Mrs. Clinton asking for the Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated after she agreed not to campaign there, I wanted to say that I hope each and everyone of you are asking yourselves if you sincerely trust someone who would pull this type of stunt while they are APPLYING for a job, how are you EVER going to trust them once they GET the job.

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Betsy Zelinger — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:57:23 GMT

All you need to know about Hillary Clinton is that now that she is losing she is pressing to have delegates from Florida and Michigan counted - WHEN SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAD HER NAME ON THE BALLOT. She did this leaving her name on the ballot, and then went to Florida and had her little make-believe "victory" party - knowing Obama had played completely by the agreed-upon rules and didn't have his name on the ballot - as a possible cheating end-run around losing if she needed it. She is whining that the Party disenfranchised those states's voters. Well of course the Party did no such thing. The states did that, when they knew the penalty if they broke the rules, and they broke the rules anyway. The Democratic Party can't possibly count delegates for someone when only one person was on the ballot. If she continues to make a big deal about it, the two states would have to hold contests again, and allow time for both candidates to campaign in the states. That's a nice expense and mess she is trying to give those states and the Party. She should take a tip about grace from Mitt Romney - (never thought I'd say anything good about him!) - and drop out now for the good of the Party. She is going to lose. All she is doing now is making it harder for Obama to have time to ready himself to compete against McCain.

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James in Bloomingdale, ILL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:57:47 GMT

All the Hillary Heads are so disillusioned, OMG. They are as blinded as she is.....Hillary disputes the polls showing Obama beating McCain by 7 points, and yet she is neck and neck....well, McCain isn't exactly getting a ringing endorsement from the Republican's and that is right where Hillary is with the Dems. They do want the Clinton's out, some are just pathetic wimps who fear retaliation should Hillary pull this election out (after they switch allegiances). But more of them are switching daily. But Hillary is digging her own grave by belittling Obama's 20+ state wins as 'small beans'. And she agreed to the punishement for Michigan and Florida months ago while ahead in the polls, and only now is whining about wanting delegates. I hardly think Howard Dean would reseat them without a fair chance for the nominees to tour the states and advertise openly like every other state in the union would receive. The states should suck up the expense for a 're-do' since they broke party rules by bumping up the caucuses; and they are whining about that loudly. All of this adds up to a sick political system that needs a good house cleaning; and Obama has the will of the people at his back to do it, so let's give him a try. McCain and Hillary are too set in their ways to make change in Washington......

Mark your calendars for the Texas showdown. Obama has a LOT of time to spend there; and just like he is doing in Wisconsin this week (7 stops)...he will get a surge and move even further beyong Hillary's reach. HOPEFULLY if Hillary does get a knock out punch, she will GRACEFULLY concede. Nah, it's not in her blood. Just because she is from Park Ridge Illinois doesn't mean she has any class.

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OHIO 4 OBAMA: Dayton, Oh — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:59:22 GMT

ANTI-OBAMA..You scare me to death! We are Americans, The great American Melting pot! Contribute a message of unity and hope, even if it is in support of Hillary, but please refrain from hate and fear. We've been fed that for far too long!

As for Michigan and Florida, integrity counts! The decision was made by ALL the candidates(including you Hillary).If anything they hold another primary and that does bring up the question who pays for it? You know I think Hillary has to deal with the consequences of her choices just as we all do and those delegates don't count. It has nothing to do with anyone from Michigan and Florida, I'm sorry you got dissed, but November will be here shortly and you can all show up and count!

My advice to Hillary from this point on...You want delegates? Then don't agree to something you don't really mean, and show up and campaign for the delegates that are left. If you decide to skip over a few states, states that you don't think matter, that's your loss.

I am a Democrat and that isn't changing no matter who gets the nomination. I will certainly not be voting for Mr. Another 100 year of war if that's what it takes. Anti - Obama you should do some self reflection in the next several months.

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Got blood on your hands Billary??, Ohio — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:01:33 GMT

More of the same old stuff!!! She will never change!!! She is worthless! She will only divide this country. I wonder what it will feel like having Mr. First Man running around the Oval Office with all those new ladies... just what America needs!!!
They all agreed that the Florida/Michigan vote didn't count, so why was she in Florida campaigning??? She should be disqualified by the Democratic Party. Furthermore, Msnbc should unsuspend David S. for his comment... Anyone with college age kids knows that the phrase "Pimping" is the same as Soliciting, begging, beseeching or requesting for a vote... If it had been the Clinton's saying that, they would expect everyone to forgive them because they just "Mis-spoke"!! Get a life Billary, we don't need your kind of politics from day one to fix the Bush castastrophe or to heal our reputation in the world... Bankrupt someone else... alot of people can't afford to pay for their mandated health insurance!!

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Betsy Zelinger — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:04:33 GMT

Just FYI, Donna Brazile is backing Clinton, so her concerns about the superdelegates deciding the election are not because she thinks that will make Obama lose. I'm an Obama supporter myself - how could anyone be a Clinton supporter after all the slime; we've certainly had enough of that the past 7 years - but I do think Donna thinks it would be breaking the trust of the rank and file to "throw" the nomination, either way.

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"Insignificant" in Iowa — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:07:18 GMT

Someone please stop the bleeding! Between having to use her own money for her campaign because it's broke, to "shaking up" her staff, do we not see what is going on here? It's called DESPERATION, and HRC is just having a hard time admitting when she's been outdone. Over and over and over again. Significant states become insignificant and vice versa to serve whatever purpose she chooses based on where she wins? WHATEVER. It's called being a sore loser. She didn't just lose these recent contests, she got her BUTT KICKED. And what is the vote differential in California now??? It dwindles every single day, but such a "significant" win, right??? It would be better for the party if she bowed out gracefully, but we could never assume that HRC would do such a thing. So let's drag this out for another 6 months while she makes a complete and utter fool of herself. That should be fun to watch.

GO OBAMA.

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Joe, Seattle WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:15 GMT

It's one thing for her to stay in the race and give it a shot to win the nomination, but it's quite dispicable for her and her staff to state their intent to steal the election by selling favors for votes or strong arming superdelegates, and by trying to get delegates in Florida and Michigan. It's unfortunate that their votes won't count, but the democrats in those states voted to defy the party knowing full well they were being told their delegates wouldn't count. The DNC told candidates to pull their name from the ballot, which Obama did.. how on earth can hillary claim the delegates on those states are a true reflection of the people's wishes. She doesn't care a thing about democracy, just her own power. If she steals this election, I will never vote democrat again and about half the people I know are saying the same thing. She will break up the whole party for her ambition. It's disgraceful. I have lost all respect for both her and Bill.

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debra — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:18:34 GMT

why want obama debate with her hes scared he knows she would win he just makes talk without anything to back it with He dosent have a plan or he would exsplane them to us instead of makeing small talk hilary dose she exsplans everything she will do for us

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Rick, Detroit, MI — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:26:05 GMT

The Hillary first, McCain second, supporters are idiots or bigots. Hillary and McCain have nothing in common. Are you Idiots? Is your hatred for a person that deep where you would throw your party away?

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Martha, Ann Arbor, Michigan — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:33:38 GMT

I am a Michigan Democrat who was disenfranchised by the shenanigans of the Michigan Democratic Party. (Voting for "uncommitted" was not very satisfying.) When HRC left her name on the ballot after others removed theirs, I suspected that she wanted to set up a situation she could turn to her advantage. I support Obama, but would have voted for Clinton if she were the nominee. However, if she uses strong-armed tactics like this to get the nomination, I will not vote for her. The DNC should not let their own rules be overturned!

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Nelson, L.A., CA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:49:49 GMT

By demanding the Michigan delegates be counted, Hillary is admitting that the only way she can win is if Obama's name is not on the ballot.

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bobbie — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:01:27 GMT

The most interesting thing about the Michigan primary is not that Hillary won when only she and Dennis Kucinich were on the ballot, but that she only won 55% of the vote. 40% voted "uncommitted" in an election they knew wouldn't count anyway.

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Joe, TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:02:19 GMT

I'm tired of the warped Clinton campaign logic that implies that it's a problem that Obama has not won a "big" state like NY or CA, so that means he would lose these states in a general election. Let's face it, these states go Democratic in the general election so he's going to win them, no problem. The real issue is that Clinton can't win the smaller states and most, if not all, the southern states (that Obama has won) which have typically gone Republican in years past. Obama's high independent and cross-over appeal to Republicans (like me) means he'll win states in the general election that Hillary will never win. And hence, Obama has a much better shot of winning the presidential election than Hillary. All you Clinton supporters need to face up to reality that it's Obama who's going to return Democrats to the White House, and it's Hillary that's going to return you to the doghouse.

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Catalina, Tacoma, Wash. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:12:15 GMT

Hillary's new slogan: solution business vs promise business, is really pathetic. She can't offer promise business either. She can't even honor her promise to not count the delegates in Florida and Michigan. How can we expect her to run the country's business, when she can't do a good job running her campaign. Rather than having the right kind of people around her to help, she valued those who would be loyal and not very competent. Does that sound like someone we know. Can you say BUSH.

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Donna Dickey — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:18:07 GMT

America needs to wake up and listen!!!!! Barack does not have any solutions!! He talks about everything he is going to do, but DOES NOT tell how he's going to do it!!!!! Because he does not know!!! He has very little experience and his speeches sound like a civil rights activist, NOT A PRESIDENT!!! I am a Democrat, but I will vote for the Republican candidate if the Democratic nominee is Barack Hussein Obama!!!! Doesn't anyone wonder why he doesn't want to debate Hillary??? She has the answers and he DOES NOT!!!!!!

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Mandy, New York — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:22:26 GMT

Hillary will say anything to get to that White House. She disgusts me. She's no President, she's an actress.

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Patricia Mejia, Delano, CA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:23:06 GMT

The media is totally responsible for this despot Obama's success. They are playing with the lives of this country and our future by being so biased in the Democratic campaign. How can these ignoramus people look in the mirror each day! The coverage extended to both candidates has been a total farce. They sensationalize and glamorize an ignorant Jr. Senator, who merely offers dated rhetoric, i.e. “Yes we can” translated to Spanish means, “Si se puede.” He is far from original!

I remember attending the rallies in Delano, California where Cesar Chavez and Bobby Kennedy joined forces to oppose the bigotry and exploitation of the Mexican immigrants and farm laborers. It is so insulting to hear this low-life perpetrator Obama claim himself to be an “Agent of change” and that he is “Looking to the future, and not the past,” while at the same time he steals the message of our former leaders to promote his rhetoric. The bottom line is that our former leaders actually DID SOMETHING to change society. They suffered and sacrificed their lives to help others. Obama barely got elected to the Senate and instead of honoring and serving his constituents, he showed up the 1st year to vote, “Present,” and has spent the past 2 years of his term campaigning for the presidency. It’s obvious whom and what is priority to him, and that’s….HIMSELF! What is wrong with America? Doesn’t anyone care about a person’s credentials? Doesn’t anyone recognize the critical times we live in? Most of all, I blame the media for caring more about their greedy selves instead of reporting a fair, unbiased election, and providing the facts on both candidates. It’s sad to think that our children’s future will rest in the fate of unethical, unscrupulous, degenerate reporters.

I challenge MSNBC to scrutinize Obama like every other candidate. It’s time FOR YOU to tell us the truth about this OBSCURE person who has no accomplishments worth mentioning. Why don’t you put the spotlight on him before it is too late for our nation? At least give us a fair and objective contest while time is left!

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Elise, Chicago, IL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:25:57 GMT

Hillary Clinton - Doing more to destroy the Democratic Party than Karl Rove himself!

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RobK, Seattle, Wash. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:46:16 GMT

The Clintons will try to steal the election!

If they succeed, I'm voting for McCain and so will every Democrat Obama supporter I know!

We will ENSURE she will not will the Presidency! I will campaign for McCain! I will Donate to his campaign and so will hundreds of thousands of Obama supporters!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED CLINTON!

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Mark F — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:48:40 GMT

The Clinton campaign will cheat if they need to. Whatever it takes to win. Go Hillary, you dishonest, corrupt careerist beotch.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

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Sally, El Paso, TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:49:15 GMT

Every time I think that the Hillary campaign can't possibly sink any lower, they manage to surprise me.

I guess that the Republicans where right about Hillary after all. She would rather destroy the Democratic party than win fairly. Disgusting.

And as far Obama being "afraid" to debate Hillary. Give me a break, that's the best you can do? They have already debated 18 times, just because Hillary is desperate for air time doesn't mean that Obama should indulge this nonsense. Talk about grasping at straws.

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JILL, New York, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:01:10 GMT

The DNC rule against MI and FL voter is most likely NOT LEGAL since it DISENFRANCHISES VOTERS in the election process. Clinton did NOT BREAK THE RULES. She was the only candidate who was not chicken and did NOT ABANDON VOTERS. You, the status quo, are so dumb. You don't even question the LEGALITY of WHAT'S HANDED TO YOU!!!!!!

HOWARD DEAN SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!!

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JILL, New York, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:03:28 GMT

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Elizabeth F. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:05:38 GMT

It appears that Hillary can't handle the pressure of "losing" in general, and is quick to resort to unscrupulous behavior and dirty politics. If she can't handle a SIMPLE primary election without forfeiting her honor, integrity, and decency, what would she do as President under REAL pressure? I'm sick and tired of being embarressed by our government officials, regardless of how much experience they have. We need leadership that beholds the highest standard of MORAL INTEGRITY, WISDOM, and DIPLOMACY to represent our country across ALL situations. OBAMA is the only candidate capable of making that change.

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obsessed — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:06:46 GMT

"Does Hillary's pledge mean nothing to her? Did she not agree to not campaign in Florida and Michigan? Does her word, like her husband's mean nothing?"

Touché! That's the most important thing on this entire page - including the original post.

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Joe Lisboa, Detroit, Mich. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:09:26 GMT

TO: The Majority of American Citizens:
FROM: The Clinton Campaign
RE: Your Insignificance
CC: The Political Dustbin

Outside of those who voted for Hillary in NY and CA, none of you matter. We (half-heartedly) apologize for failing to make this clear, this despite our refusal to remain in primary and caucus states to thank our supporters, our race-baiting, our steadfast refusal to congratulate much less acknowledge the fellow Democrat who has now repeatedly defeated us in landslide victories all across the country, and our unmistakable sense of self-entitlement.

We are happy to report, however, that Bill has loaned the campaign a cool $20 and that polls indicate we are likely to capture nearly 30% of the delegates from Hillaryland in next month's primary.

Fired staff, ready to go!

Best,
Mark Penn

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Tom Chicago, IL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:09:46 GMT

To all you Obama supporters out there a question. If someone answered an add to rehab your house and when you asked him about experience he said he'd never led or designed a rehab job, and futhermore he'd never even updated a room - would you hire him? Obama has led as an executive exactly 0 times, unless you count the Harvard law review then it's 1.

I'm a African-American so all you liberals who would normally jump up and shout racism stay seated. If Obama were a white man who was a great orator, but had no experience the news articles we'd be reading would be about how many people pulled muscle upon learning about the hubris of such a person running for arguably the most powerful position on Earth. Favorable racism is still racism.

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george, pleasant hill, ca — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:11:26 GMT

The Clintons are yesterday, and we are all tired of yesterday. Yes, I, too, fear that they will take us all down with them if they don't get their way.

But if she loses, perhaps one of those who gave so freely to her campaign, such as Rupert Murdoch, can find a job for her, even if she didn't give them the return on their investment that they counted on.

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Ernie, Bayside, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:15:08 GMT

Mark Penn: "Clinton will draw a “clear contrast” between herself and Obama by showing that she is in the “21st Century solution business and not the promise business.”

Is that a promise?

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Donna Dickey, Checotah , Ok — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:16:58 GMT

Obama says he did not campaign in Florida, but he did run commercials before the primary. The people of Florida have the right to have their votes counted. The Republicans were the ones who caused the problem about the timing of the primary. So, let the people's votes count in Florida and Michigan!!!!

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Dorothy, White Salmon, Wa — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:18:19 GMT

I helped with the caucus in the State of Washington. By law in Washington, the Secretary of State must deliver a primary ballot by mail to all voters. So, there is a primary in addition to the caucus which the Democrat Party put together for Feb. 9. However, the caucus has some real drawbacks. It is not representative of the people. I couldn't help but notice that there just weren't many white haired seniors,nor were there any in wheelchairs, but there were lots of young voters. Many people I knew had to work so they missed the specific time the caucus took place and there were no accommodations such made in Las Vegas and Reno. I just don't feel the caucus is representative of the people, especially when you already have a primary ballot that has to be mailed out anyway.
Recently a suggestion was made that we do 4 or 5 area primary dates; western states, southern states, mid-west and eastern/new England states. If the western states was first, then the next election they would go to the last primary date and the southern states would be first and so on. That would seem to be a fair way plus it would save gas for planes etc for the candidates.

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Norm , Mn — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:19:19 GMT

I love it the heat of the kitchen is too much for the lady who only wants it her way or it dont count...people are finally getting the smell of what she is under all that perfume...the heck with debates 'Bama go get votes...Thats what she dont want

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Doctor Biobrain, Austin TX — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:20:23 GMT

I really feel sad for Hillary. This was supposed to be her year, but someone better came along and she just won't accept it. But I'm fairly confident that by the time Ohio & Texas come along, even her campaign will realize this isn't going to the convention. She had a nice run, but it's really time to pack it in.

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Donna, Checotah, OK — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:26:22 GMT

The MSNBC news reporters have been so biased throughout this campaign, it has been absolutely shameful!! They act like they adore this God named Barack Hussein Obama. I have always enjoyed watching MSNBC political shows, but no more!! Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman are worse than Fox news!!!!

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JB — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:35:59 GMT

For all of you who are calling out Obama for not debating in Wisconsin, maybe you should look a little forward and call out Clinton for not even showing up in Wisconsin. Such disregard for the state. At least Obama will shake voters hands over the next week and talk to actual Wisconsin citizens.

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Sharon, Pahiladelphia, PA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:56:23 GMT

I read the NYTimes, op-ed yesterday and I am blown away by an article by Maureen Dowd. Maureen wrote Hilary is so tied to Bill Clinton that she did not use or maybe never had her own voice and is not the female to represent women in the presidential race.
What really blew me away was the realization that her vote for Iraq War was so that she would appear to voters to be a woman that would go to war. What a sick thought. So what am I to believe now? She did not believe in the war, but wanted to maintain an image? So she sent thousands of men and woman into harms way for her image? Hundreds of thousands Iraqies lost thier lives as well. Displaced so many people, for what? How freeking evil. This is so unforgiving. All about her image, and for what? So that your husband to return to the White House to rewrite his history?

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Eric, San Jose, CA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:02:28 GMT

Hey Anti-Obama,

What makes you think Obama is a terrorist? these comments are unproductive.

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Bernard, Scotch Plains, NJ — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:21:56 GMT

This is just disgusting...Hillary's Campaign played every hand they had: The Race Card, The Gender Card, The Pity Me Card, and now the Insignificant States Card...Give me a break this is the biggest fairytale I've ever heard. Yeah Democrats be foolish and vote this woman as your Primary Candidate, and then don't get upset when President John McCain Bomb Bombs Iran!

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Betsy, Seattle WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:27:26 GMT

I would just like to take this opportunity to note that Sen. Obama won every single insignificant county in my insignificant state (WA) by a not insignificant margin.

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John, LA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:35:54 GMT

A flat out lie. Hillary Clinton held two well-publicized campaign stops in Florida the weekend before the primary. They were covered state-wide and Wolfson was quoted in those articles criticizing Obama for "ignoring" Florida, despite knowing full well that all candidates had made pledges to do no campaigning there. If Obama was running ads, then why did Hillary's campaign manager accuse him of ignoring the state? There was a time that I respected Bill Clinton and his wife, but I begin to understand why people have developed such a pathological dislike for them. If she chooses to cheat her way to the nomination, I will not vote in a general presidential election for the first time in my adult life.

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honorable65, Santa Maria, CA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:43:15 GMT

“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said. “That raises some serious questions about Sen. Obama.”

Doesn't it occur to HRC supporters that these 'insignificnt states' are the heart and hard-working soul of the USA ? Seems like the only places HRC can carry--are where the wacko-liberals and the 'I-am-entitled-to-a-handout' losers live and breed. I am ashamed that my state of CC. I hope people take the time to look at the great CA that is out there past LA, San FRan, Berkley, etc. and speaks English as a FIRST language. Wake up !!!!

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Shawn Fassett, Seattle, Wash — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:45:53 GMT

Maybe Hillary needs to address the fact that Mark Penn used to handle PR for Blackwater USA. Some judgement!

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Leo — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:56:06 GMT

People are screaming for delegates to be seated from Florida and even Michigan (where Obama's name didn't even exist). I say to Obama supporters, don't worry, this thing will be over before we even get to the convention. In general, here is why:

A primary campaign is a long, long, drawn out process. This thing lasts for months and all it decides is who gets to run for President. Why is this? Look at this entire primary as an interview and/or an application for the Presidency of our country. The American people will examine you as a person, your personality, your speaking skills, etc., and just as important, your ability to organize, manage, and run a campaign. Running a campaign is a massive undertaking. This requires financial advisors, marketing experts, volunteers, and on and on. Not to mention the hiring of talented management in all of these areas. The job will be even more complex than this once you enter the White House, but hey, if you perform poorly now, the people will see this and certainly not allow you to win a primary...

Ok, may I ask, which campaign is performing more effectively? Which campaign is making the better marketing decisions? Which campaign is working the hardest and has the best game plan? Do you think this is purely by luck?

Hey, this is far from over, but I don't have to tell anyone reading this which person is winning this interview, do I? Based on what we have seen thus far, would anyone want Hillary's team running our country?

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jon, Seattle — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:04:21 GMT

Debate! Notice that Obama NEEDS a teleprompter...remind you of someone!?

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Robert, Abingdon, Va. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:24:35 GMT

Very simple choice here, Vote for Hillary and you vote for honor, truth, and a long overdue change in Washington, to secure a brighter future for us all.
Vote for Obama and you are voting for more lies, deceit and sending America into another civil war that it is in no way ready for. There are those of us out here that have not been brainwashed and blinded to the truth, We see Obama for what he is and nothing more, a sorry looser and one very good lier.

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NJ Voter, New Brunswich, NJ — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:12:10 GMT

The Clinton's can't stop this movement. This movement is bigger than the Clintons. What ever happened to "I've found my voice" (LMAO). They way I see it, maybe you have. The problem is, you are singing in the shower, and nobody is home.

Regarding the banned delegates. Both states knew the consequences which were communicated by the DNC regarding changing their primary date. The problem with allowing those delegates to count is, what prevents other states from conducting themselves as did Florida and Michigan? Like "child" that attempts to disregard parental instructions, you get punished and so the next time you will adhere to the rules like the other 20+ states that followed the party rules.

If every state decides to disregard what the National party communicates, how can you have order? How come only Hillary is complaining about Florida and Michigan? Even when other candidates where losing to the so called Clinton machine, no one was complaining, not even Obama!

The Clintons are sounding pathetic. I am eager to see she is going to cry for a third time.

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Betsy Zelinger, Denver, CO — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:29:26 GMT

Of course they should NOT seat any delegates from Florida or Michigan, unless they have real contests held in the future, with time for the candidates to campaign. The states, and the candidates, knew the votes would not count because the states broke the rules. Only one candidate "forgot" to take her name off the ballot, probably calculating even back then that it might come in handy for a despicable try at an end-run later on, to leave her name there, since there was no competing allowed and she had a huge edge at the time due to her name recognition, and the early state of the campaign. Many people obviously didn't go to vote when they knew their votes wouldn't count...those people would be disenfranchised if Sen. Clinton got to wave her magic wand and make the rules go away.

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mojo, Muscle Shoals, AL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:32:19 GMT

Wow! She's quite the uniter! She's running for President of Half The United States. Which is something we already have. Not to mention, they just pissed on most all the states they would need to win the general election! Good luck with that!

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JOHNKERRY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:34:40 GMT

Florida and Michigan are still states of the United States of America. How can 14 million peoples voice not be heard? If Obama believes the words he delivers at EVERY speech, "We are one people, the people of the USA" then he needs to practice what all that preaching is about, NO ONE AMERICAN SHOULD GO UNCOUNTED. Give those people their voice back, its every Americans right. Their delegates should be reinstated, the people have spoke.

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John — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:36:26 GMT

February 13th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

Florida and Michigan gave their verdict..people did not vote out of fun or that they did not have anything else to do. It was real voting by real people..No one campaigned, no ads except Obama, …It's very pity that candidates like Obama, Edwards wants to raise money from those 2 states and do not want to upheld their clear verdict. The delegates should be seated without any re-primaries or caucuses..Because no single candidate has campaigned there and broke the rule..It's a rear verdict by real people.

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Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:37:13 GMT

I find it interesting that Barack Obama is raising alot of hub-bub over superdelegates and is trying to say they should have to vote along the lines of the way the state went they represent. He also says FL & MI should not count they broke the rules. So on one hand he wants to change the super delegate rules to benefit him but hold true to the rules of FL & MI because they would benefit Hillary Clinton. You can't have it both ways. FL & MI must be seated for the party's sake. There is no way Democrats can win in November with out them. From what I have read the state and local supporters of the candidates campagined plenty for their candidate. Also theres the Internet and cable so don't tell me they did not get to know the candidates. Seat the delegates.

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GIRL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:38:06 GMT

Hillary Clinton did not break the rules. She did NOT campaign in Florida. BOTH Clinton and Obama's names were on the ballot, NEITHER directly camapigned, Obama had national ads that ran in Florida, and there was an unprecedented voter turn out. All canidates were on an equal playing field. To say that Hillary Clinton had an advantage because of her name recognition is ridiculous. Florida voters read the newspaper, watch CNN, watch the debates, and are very politically aware. The primary was held on January 29, 2008 - not 6 months ago. We know about Obama and the issues he stands for.

Florida Democrats should not be punished because the Repulican run state legislature moved the primary date. For our party to do this to its members is unacceptable!

To suggest that we ignore the will of the thousands of voters that came out to vote on January 29th in favor of a new caucus is equally as absurd. A caucus is not truly representative of what the voters want. Only those that can get the day off and find a baby-sitter for 6-8 hours can actaully participate. Many of the individuals that already cast their votes will not be able to participate in such a process. They will be left out of the process.

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ALISON — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:40:50 GMT

As a Florida Democrat, I demand that my vote count, this time. In 2000, in my county, Duval (Jacksonville), 25,000 ballots from predominantly Democratic precincts were rejected and went uncounted. This cannot be happening, again! The point needs to be made that the Republican-dominated Florida Legislature made the decision for all of Florida to move up the primary date—they knew what they were doing and hoped that Democrats wouldn’t show up to vote against a controversial amendment on the same ballot. Well, 1.7 MILLION Florida Democrats did turn out to vote. Just because the candidates didn’t campaign here is not a good reason to ignore us. There were ads on CNN for Obama the week before the primary and Hillary did show up after the polls closed, but BOTH were on the ballot. 1,700,000 voters should NOT be ignored!!

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CHRIS — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:41:36 GMT

Hillary won the vote in Florida - it is that simple - and it was a level playing field. Michigan may be different because both names were not on the ballot. Hillary had name recognition alone? Obama certainly used that by taking Oprah out onto the stage. I'm so tired of all this media hands off babying of Mr. Obama. going to spoil him. He's going to make a great President when he grows up real fast to find out the media and the world aren't as kind and gentle as he's being led to believe. It will be all very different if he gets where he wants to go here. He is a first term junior senator with little or no no experience with the real, mean world. This is such a dangerous candidate. Mr. Careful. So careful we don't have any idea who he really is. Well - he flatters us real nice from his "float" as he goes by. I think he's an excellent preacher - but we need a President. Hillary is over qualified. We're lucky she wants anything to do with this - we're the ones who need HER.

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JOHNKERRY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:10:08 GMT

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JS, NC — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:11:05 GMT

Yeah, Iowa sucks. Connecticut? It's like, so tiny! Missouri? You don't even pronounce the "i"! What the heck is in Georgia, other than CNN and Coca-Cola? Utah? MORMONS, people, MORMONS! Maine can fall into the Atlantic for all I care. Bunch of lobster-eaters, ayuh. Washington is for hippies. South Carolina has an unfortunate flag problem...can anyone even find Delaware on a map? Alaska isn't even ON the map. US Virgin Islands? Fuggedaboudit! DC already doesn't have a vote, so screw those guys to. Virginia is too...uh...birthplace of the revolution-y. North Dakota is practically Canada. And Idaho, Maryland, Nebraska, Kansas, Alabama, Louisiania, Minnesota...well, need I say more? Honestly, who cares?

I represent the people of New York and California. New Jersey and Massachusetts, when they're being nice to me. The rest of you can go to hell.

--Hillary Clinton

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Lu KC — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:17:30 GMT

Wow. Way to write off three-quarters of the population in one sentence. That's going to play so very well in all the 'insignificant' states coming up. Seriously, she should just take her toys and go home, I don't think I can stand much more of this nonsense.

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Chet Cutick — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:54:48 GMT

With each new day, the arrogance of the Clinton campaign becomes more staggering.

The end result if they win this thing by forcing the existing MI and FL "votes" to count is simple...

On Jan 20, 2009, say hello to President McCain.

The Clintons and her people should be ashamed. Their actions lost my vote in the NY primary already. She is in danger of losing it if she runs for re-election in 2012 in her Senate seat.

She will never be the President.

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Local organizer, Central NJ — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:21:24 GMT

I come from one of the "significant states" that Clinton won, though she didn't get my vote. Should I feel complimented?

Well, I don't. I don't believe that such stunning arrogance as displayed by Mark Penn doesn't reflect the candidate herself.

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Doug Bailey, West Valley, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:34:03 GMT

What's an insignificant state? Is that one of those places filled with insignificant voter's or more to the point insignificant citizens? I should think after 8 years of being insignificant, ignored, disenfranchised and bullied we should drop the idea that anyone is more significant than anyone else. A large population or great wealth does not impart great insight or great wisdom. There are two very strong progressive candidates. How could we possibly lose with either one of them?

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kim, buffalo, new york — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:34:37 GMT

Why are obama supporters so mean? I think he is great, however I will support a qualified woman over an inexperienced man. I tend to go with experience when the situation is serious and needs the best quality. I would not go to a really nice doctor, I would go for the best qualified doctor.
Many political analyst have questioned if obama can carry the larger states-they have more delegates. nothing wrong with a smaller state.
Go Hillary! It is not over!!!!!!!!

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Debra Comer, West Yorkshire UK (Georgia absentee voter) — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:56:27 GMT

In less than one year I've gone from supporting Hillary, to very reluctantly supporting Hillary, to enthusiastically supporting John Edwards, and (now that Edwards has dropped out) to supporting Barack Obama. How quickly things change.

The more I know about Hillary, the less I like her and this extends to the people she surrounds herself with. I even find myself liking Bill a whole lot less than I used to.

Now, discovering that my state is "insignificant" as far as the Hillary campaign is concerned is the straw that broke the camel's back. Come election day in November, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I'll write in Obama or Edwards. There's no way Hillary Clinton will ever get my vote. I once had high hopes for her but I don't believe Hillary's the person I once thought she was.

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Adam, Kent, Washington — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:00:45 GMT

Experience is important to me in this election. It's why I support Obama for President.

Senator Clinton entered national politics as a President's spouse. As a Clinton running for Senator in New York, she began with the odds in her favor. Rarely, it seems, has she needed to demonstrate an appeal to anyone other than her Democratic base.

Clinton's mettle may have been tested since she first came on the national scene; but the progress of Obama's life, from his college years through to this current primary election, shows that he has the ingenuity to succeed-- to find a solution-- even where the odds are stacked against him. The experience that is serving him so well now stretches back, even to before he was involved in politics.

He doesn't appear to play by the rules. Maybe that's because he wants to remind us that leading the United States isn't a game at all, but a serious endeavor. We should only trust the job of President to a person with demonstrated ingenuity, intellect, a philosophy of collaboration and-- you know I'm going to say it-- hope.

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Ken, Baltimore — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:08:24 GMT

Maybe I'm just naive, but I would think the significant states -- if there is such a thing -- might be the swing states that will likely decide the general election.

Yes, California and New York are vital and very important. But they're likely Democratic locks.

Missouri, Virginia, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico are all swing states that could decide who the next president there is. As are Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Obama has won four of those, and last I heard Clinton had a very small lead in New Mexico and that state still hasn't been called. She did win Nevada.

You really can't count Florida, since there was no campaign there. (Big surprise the candidate with the name recognition won in a state with no campaigning).

And we'll see how Ohio and Pennsylvania go.

Penn is being paid millions of dollars for his efforts, and so far, they are failing. So, he has to say something to try and save this mess. But I think he should have chose his words better.

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Jon Saxson — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:19:30 GMT

For all of their whining about how the Obama campaign is supposedly discarding Michigan and Florida, the Clinton campaign sure is trying hard to discard and marginalize every small(ish) state won by Obama and make the claim that their votes don't matter. OK, Wolfson and Penn, Obama is trying to make MI and FL not matter. But how can you complain about that when you and your Clinton campaign associates marginalize and push aside every caucus state and every primary state won by Obama? Who's fooling who here?

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Justin, Expat — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:26:27 GMT

>"I will NOT vote Obama. Terrorist!"

Why are you allowing someone to label Sen. Obama a "terrorist" on your board?

Whomever is approving comments needs to take responsibility for what is posted. This type of idiotic, xenophobic, and racist trash contributes nothing to the public discourse and carries the risk, however small, of giving some sociopath an awful idea.

This is really not "related to the blog" nor is it "appropriate language."

Do your job.

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Karin Byars, Rome, Georgia — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:37:36 GMT

Florida and Michigan should only be seated after a do over primary or caucus. Julian Bond's statement is that of a man with many regrets about missed opportunities. Mark Penn's statement is that of a man who is not earning his keep. All this may be a mute point after Texas and Ohio. Hispanics are to smart to side with loosers.

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Janet — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:41:38 GMT

I'm totally ashamed of Hillary. She'll do ANYTHING to win, regardless of whether it's honest or moral. Here is my PROMISE to the Democratic Party: If the DNC allows Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated, I will NEVER vote again. It won't be worth my time. I would conclude simply that the most corrupt candidate will always win. We as Democrats are in such a wonderful position. We have a wonderful candidate in Barack Obama. As a Nation, we could pick ourselves up again. But what Hillary Clinton is trying to do is reprehensible and, if successful, would ruin our entire Country. I have completely lost my respect for the Clintons--BOTH of them!

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Janet — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:45:04 GMT

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Rob, Kangley, WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:53:46 GMT

The first messager sounds like crossover Republic-rat. No true progressive, or liberal, just a fake.

However, like most of the others have seen, Hillary has once again shown her true colors: she's a big mouthed politician looking out for herself.

Talk about disenfranchising! EVERY state, and EVERY vote matters. Except in Hillary world. Which is why she's focusing on the super delegates. That way she saves money on campaigning, and doesn't have to bother with us voters.

So I'll counter the first commenter. I'll vote for only Barack, rather than throw my vote against democracy by voting for Hillary(garnish their wages for profits for health insurance companies) Clinton or more-of-the-same John(now I'm against banning torture)McCain.

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DB, Chicago IL — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:18:51 GMT

Breathtaking. All the Clinton people can come up with is smears and put-downs.

As much as I personally like Hillary, her coterie of advisers, warring factions, and vitriolic fans makes it extremely tough for me to vote for her under any circumstances, and that is something I would not have said six months ago. I did not realize how pernicious and incompetent these people were, and I did not realize how reluctant Hillary is to get rid of them and do things her way.

Her campaign has been run ineptly, raising serious questions about her ability to govern (or at least her ability to govern while employing people like Mark Penn and Terry McAuliffe with their empty partisanship against most Republicans, divisive put-downs of other Democrats, and schmoozing of McCain). Her commendably progressive instincts are deliberately and systematically shrouded by the scum who work for her (Hillary tries to come up with sensible solutions to the war, then McAuliffe goes around and praises McCain on national security), and yet she won't fire them because they did good for her husband. We'll see nothing progressive from a Hillary administration. Just four years of dysfunction followed by a Carter-like collapse. No thanks.

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Bryant C. Richmond, Va — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:27:30 GMT

so for the people that are claiming that obama needs to debate her in wisconsin need to realize something....THERE HAS BEEN 18 DEBATES ALREADY...there will be 2 more and that's it....that is more then enough to see the differences between the 2. Obama is trying to talk and greet the people and not give clinton more air time to her struggling campaign. it's getting really ridiculous that she is making these claims that he afriad of her. its very funny that she is saying all this from a nice cozzy spot in texas and pretty much does not care about wisconsin because it doesnt fit nice and snug inside of the boarders of texas. please wake up people..penn just stated that the states that obama has won do not matter just because she didn't win them. what kind of message is that? she didn't even think the voters in the va, md, and dc for voting for her on tuesday. it's starting to be clear people that the clintons dont care about any one except the clintons....

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Jen, Sandy, UT — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:35:37 GMT

It was unfair of the DNC to take away the delegate vote in the first place, but two wrongs have never made a right...AND I GUARANTEE that if Obama had won those states there is no chance in Hell Hillary would be championing for the rights of the voters of MI and FL. Also, both states' party leaders were told by the DNC that if they moved their primary/caucus that THEIR DELEGATES WOULD NOT BE SEATED - and the states chose to go ahead anyway. I'm not sure, but I believe Hillary's name was the only one on the ballot in MI - how is that fair for Pete's sake? As to Obama's ad, it was a general ad placed NATIONALLY and the Dem National Committee told him to go ahead. So quit yer bellyachin' Hillary and all other whiners. It is stupid that the DNC took the delegates - they surely should have forseen and avoided this problem but they did take them - Live with it. Furthermore, I for one, have had enough of Florida deciding my President for me because of their inability to get a voting system to run smoothly. Geez. Oh, and if you take it to the Supreme Court, what will they do with it? Give it to the one they think more likely to go down to McCain, is my guess. Very fair...

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John,Illinois — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:39:35 GMT

I hope she fights for every delegate possible. Please Hillary don't give up. Hire 100 Lawyers to sue for them. Kick, scream, and if that doesn't work, try crying again. Take it to convention and use yours and your husbands political muscle to get the nomination. Nothing would make Republicans happier than to watch you implode the democrats.

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iowan — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:51:31 GMT

Didn't work for Guiliani, sweetheart, and it ain't gonna work for you.

Beating this campaign of liars down is hard because, bringing in the 'woman' angle, it is okay for a woman to be 'tough' (meant: compete) but not okay to 'beat up' a woman, though this kind of adversarial, competitive spirit is ingrained in everything American. Makes it very hard for Obama to 'fight' her without drawing the 'damsel in distress' and 'sisters rallying for the downtrodden' response. I think having fifteen different 'election dates' has helped everyone see the shameless Clintonian manipulation of this particluar dynamic.

Btw, I see no particular 'insult' or 'gracelessness' (aside from the usual) in her not 'conceding.' The real insult is to the voters of Virginia, MD, etc; Mrs. Clinton is effectively discounting or diminishing their votes by not acknowledging their contests---ones involving very informed voters (Clinton's hometown folks of the last 20 years) who had an actual contest with all the names on the ballots.

Wisconsinites, Texans, Ohioans, please finish the job the rest of us have started. Vote emphatically.

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Daniel K, Tacoma, WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:05:58 GMT

Haha, oh man, Hillary is so incredibly pathetic.

This is like watching the Britney Spears downfall all over again.

Anyway, my insignificant state gave Obama 60 delegates, go throw another tantrum Billary.

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Daniel K, Tacoma, WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:05:59 GMT

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Mark D. — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:51 GMT

If Sen. Clinton discounts caucuses because only party activists and highly motivated voters participate, why is she pushing to count super-delegates when they would surely fall into the same category?

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Grant, St. Paul, MN — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:16:05 GMT

Demanding more debates is a definite sign of a losing campaign. They've had about 20 debates already. How many do they need?

Is the Clinton campaign paying y'all to echo her lame attack ads on this site?

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Jen, Sandy UT — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:22:42 GMT

Oh, and another thing...I'm from Utah, one of the 20+ states that doesn't count. Thanks! After this, even if Obama was hit by a bus tomorrow I wouldn't vote for Hillary. Probably have to just move to China or Dubar or someplace where at least no one pretends their people matter. Meantime, although I am from Utah and my vote has already been cast in our legal primary, I am calling the Obama HQ in Ohio right now and will offer to volunteer to make calls to as many people in their state as I can reach.

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Neil, Asheville, NC — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:31:39 GMT

Wisconsin "debators",

We've had 18 debates, with two more scheduled. Clinton wants free air time. You either realize this and are taking a few bullet points from her attack memo, or you don't understand politics.

Do realize, however, that once Obama wins Wisconsin, in Clinton's camp, you'll be "insignificant".

Step off the bandwagon for a few moments and ask internalize the issues. Your undying support for your candidate reminds me of the same from neo-cons and their support of bush.

Obama '08

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Josh, Owings Mills, MD — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:31:41 GMT

People from Wisconsin know that Hillary also didn't agree to a debate in Wisconsin, right? Her attack ad is more general than she'd like you to believe.

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David Johnson, Brooklyn, NY — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:38:43 GMT

To me the "significant" states are arguably the swing states. Obama isn't going to lose New York in the general election.

So... how has Obama done in the swing states? Pretty well, I would say.

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Eagles4Life, philadelphia,PA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:40:36 GMT

Larry Lewis, Madison.Wi
He has already gone one on one with Hillary on the issues. What people are not seeing here is that Hillary has a plan that has nothing to do withthe debates. it is simply a money issue. He has agreed to 2 debates. Let the debate issue rest already. He is certainly not scared of her. How come she started asking for more debates, not before her losses, but after her losses. he is in Winconsin talking and trying to actually REACH people. I think that is more significant that debating. From most of the debates so far, it has been crap anyway. I believe the concept of a debate is to both people answer to the same questions, not ask pointed questions to bring someone else down or put them on the defensive. Clinton does NOT want a debate, she wants WAR. She wants to play dirty politics. Don't try to mudwrestle a pig.

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bill brock — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:42:47 GMT

Martin said earlier "Obama doesn't dare to debate Hillary, because he has just empty words while Hillary provides real solutions for real problems!

Obama is hot air and an annoying voice!

Hillary 08!!! "
There have been what,17 or 18? debates now. Please try to pay attention.

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Eagles4Life, philadelphia,PA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:18:18 GMT

You know to date, after touting Univesal health care in every debate, she has yet to answer this question: How do you propose to mandate your universal health care? To date, she has found a way to dismiss the question and avoid answering it. Can any Hillary supporters tell us why. I think I know why, if she tells us how she will "GET IT DONE", it will not be politically expedient for her. Baraks plan is transparent. I mean, can most of the people that are voting for her really afford any further wage garnishment now. We basically pay about 50% of our earnins in some form of tax not or the other. If anyone garnishes my wages any further, I won't be able to pay my bills and afford to put qulity food on my kids table. It is really interesting that those who are supporting Barak's helathcare plan are those who actually can afford healthcare, and guess what he won't have to garnish your wages to get it done. it is also interesting that those who are supporting Hillary here, you know, those earning less that $50000 are the ones who are pushing for a plan that will further take out of your already not enough paycheck. You may like her now 'cos the concept of universal healthcare "sounds" good, but you will hate her when she starts to implement it.

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gw, Jacksonville, Florida — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:18:47 GMT

I didn't get my vote counted when I voted during the hanging chad election. I know many of you agree that this wasn't appropriate and would want your vote counted. Now we face disenfranchisement for a vote that was taken because of party rules. I don't mind a do over, but I do mind just being passed by.

And frankly, I'd be happy to have EITHER Senator Obama or Senator Clinton be my candidate, so I don't have any dog in the hunt.

Have we really gotten to the place that we'll say anything and believe anything, so long as our chosen candidate gets to run/win? This sounds like a very "Bushy" stance to me.

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Larry from Purdue — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:27:52 GMT

Barack, why are you so afraid of a 19th debate?

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Lisa E, Virginia — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:52:29 GMT

Mark Penn's views on the significance of certain states seems to change over time. Today, he suggests that states like Colorado are not significant. But on July 2, 2006, in a Washington Post Op-Ed titled "The Power of Hillary," he and Mr. Carville had a different take on the importance of CO:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006063001478.html :

Certainly she could win the states John Kerry did. But with the pathbreaking possibility of this country's first female president, we could see an explosion of women voting -- and voting Democratic. States that were close in the past, from Arkansas to Colorado to Florida to Ohio, could well move to the Democratic column. It takes only one more state to win.

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Soopaman — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:05:44 GMT

Obama has debated HRC 18 or so times on the issues. What's going to change in their answers to the problems ? Why all of a sudden, when she's no longer the front-runner, does she want to debate. What's she going to change with her answers ? What's all this going to prove ? As an AMERICAN I want the right person for the job, I don't care if that person's white, black, yellow, green, pink, purple or blue. I don't care if it's male or female. I want a CANDIDATE that will put AMERICA back into the leading role where it belongs. Can HRC accomplish that ? Can Obama ? Who knows ? One things for sure, whoever wins the Big Office has a lot of fixing to do.

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james n.c. raleigh — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:07:35 GMT

republican candidate senator obama yes we can sounds like a republican to me

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John, Boston, MA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:51:13 GMT

Please, Texas voters... Please, Ohio voters....

Please, Ohio friends

Please, Texas friends

Change history and save the democratic party by putting an end to all these "fears"...please end this "division".

start a new chapter.

the specifics and plans are here:
www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Vote Obama with me.

Don't Sleep

Yes we can. Si Se Puede.

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Baltimore, Maryland — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:14:26 GMT

Florida and Michigan have been repeatedly told that they should hold another primary (or if they are low on money, a caucus). A number of states do caucus because they are so cheap to administer.

All they have to do is select a date and submit that date (before June 6th, I believe) to the DNC. There is precedence for it. That way, their delegation will be seated. My understanding is that Michigan is mulling over that idea already.

This is a win-win solution for everybody. Howard Dean is trying to get the states to do that. Because of the proportional delegation award in the Democratic party, no matter who wins. Both candidates will walk away with delegates.

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John Doe, Seattle, WA — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:15:07 GMT

Please, the "solution business", the "promise business"?

Hillary will soon be out of business.

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Joe Maddock, Provo, UT — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:16:23 GMT

Man... so far Hillary has misquoted Obama on Republicans in an attempt to divide and anger democrats, smeared him for his teenage drug use, now her campaign's willing to divide the entire nation into significant and insignificant states if it makes her sound better??
She is RIDICULOUS. If Hillary wins, I've lost all faith in democracy... it really is just a machine.

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Dale Scott, San Francisco — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:34:50 GMT

Girard - actually, the intended purpose of the superdelegates is to pad the lead of the nominee who gets the most regular delegates. They'e not supposed to declare this early. They're supposed to wait, and then use their votes to unify the party around the leading cadidate in close situations like this. Most people seem to have forgotten.

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HarpboyAK, Juneau, AK — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:49:37 GMT

Sour Grapes Hillary whines again! When will she get the message? THEY HAD 8 YEARS AND BILL SCREWED IT UP so Al Gore couldn't get elected. WE DON'T NEED 8 more years of Terry McAuliffe DLC Repugnican Lite ClintonCrap. We need a change, and Obama will provide it. My caucus, which had the best attendance here since 1972, was 76% Obama for a reason! Get used to losing, Billary!

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tomvale13 — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:56:22 GMT

Ahh America,

your system is completely ridiculous, get with the times.

Or alternatively - beat your broken system and vote for Obama.

:-)

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Zack Carlson, Minneapolis, Minnesota — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:45:03 GMT

1) To anti-obama comment post; you sound like a republican hoping that Hillary will win the nomination so you may have a chance in the general election.

2) I wholeheartedly agree that Clinton is pulling out as many stops as possible. Calling Obama on the Exelon nuclear bill is fair, but unfortunately for her opens up a wide swath of inuendo for corruption against her and her husband. Just today the huffington post mentioned one of her campaign aids recieving thousands of dollars from Exelon. Clearly as the republicans use inflamitory terms to describe Obama such as "Terrorist, Smoker, Liar"(thank you fox news) with the only factual negative brought up against him is whether he may or may not have watered down a bill due to corporate pressures; I think Clintons got a major uphill battle ahead of her. I personally don't like her brand of failed politics. Then again, she could pull back up on the polls if she fixes her "crying on que" button.

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maria, new york — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:31:25 GMT

Hillary don't give up! We(NEW YORK) are with you foreever.....We love you, keep it up till the end.
If Obama wins I will vote republican.