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The Good Witch — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:33:45 GMT

Send in the flying monkeys. She's melting, she's melting....

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Patty, SD,CA — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:35:43 GMT

Clinton Rocks

Obama Kool-Aid effect is startind to disappear.

Don't worry people Clinton is going to be the Democratic candidate.

Obama Sucks

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Deborah Greenlawn,NY — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:44:02 GMT

Does it sound like a shade of lowering expectations
in that one statement that Texas 'is going to make up its own mind'?
Could it be because that big lead shrunk to a tie in the latest poll?

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Rick,ky — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:44:08 GMT

Hey Howard wolfson, Newsflash, the Battle is Over, Your candidate Lost. Go Home, take her with ya. America has Business to attend to. Thanx for Playing!

Barack Obama for President!!!!!!!!!!!

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iowan — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:49:17 GMT

Essentially a further attempt to 'disenfranchise', today, voters in WI and HI by ignoring them or their elections, taking attention away from the same. At best, a desperate primary strategy; and, if it works, will bite her in the ass in the general. "The politics of now", by HRC. Disappointing.

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Barbara - Dallas, TX — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:49:34 GMT

I'm amazed at how many people contend that the press is easy on Obama, and yet so hard on Hillary. Really? How so? Her losses are spun into "we didn't expect to win that", and she is allowed to move the goal line all the time. Hasn't it been completely, terribly obvious how "in touch" her campaign seems to stay with these news outlets and reporters? Every day there is some new "news" out of the Clinton camp, some comment or dirt-slinging. Why doesn't this article quote anything from the Obama camp? I'll tell you why, because his team is focusing on the race and getting in front of voters. Her team is focused on spinning the press in whichever way it chooses. For someone who thinks they are treated unfairly by the press, her camp is always in touch with them. Many reporters, anchors & pundits have commented on the number of emails or conference calls they see from the Clinton campaign. The press turns all her mud-slinging into "late breaking campaign news". They know exactly what she's doing, and they go right along for the ride. First she had to win TX, OH & PA after the potomac primaries (quoted from HER camp). Now she just needs to win either TX or OH. Just disgusting, and to think I was 90% sure I would vote for her a year ago!!

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Katie — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:50:31 GMT

Send in the flying monkeys. She's melting, she's melting....

I don't care who you support that is funny. Seriously, lets all play nice.

Vile, ugly, rants and name calling won't win your candidate any support and will actually lose votes.

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Harry Wilson — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:12 GMT

Gallup poll is showing what a fraud is Barack Hussein Obama, "Just words". Americans are not fool only media is.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104437/Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Election-2008.aspx

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Jennifer, IL — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:59 GMT

OH... I REALLY hope Barack wins Wisconsin. And wins Wisconsin BIG!!!!!

Obama is brilliant. He's a fighter. He's a mighty good man.

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Steve, Albquerque, NM — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:53:14 GMT

Acutally, Obama's delegate lead is about 130. The pledged delegate count is what will matter. If the superdelegates overturn the will of the people, get ready for "President McCain".

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eddiec, Memphis TN — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:53:39 GMT

I bet Bill Clinton has ALWAYS been proud to be an American regardless if Hillary would be in the lead. Just another reason NOT to elect this boy to the White House.

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JACKIE CELLINI — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:53:45 GMT

IS IT HILLARY WE'LL HAVE AS PRESIDENT OR BILL?
HARD TO TELL WITH THIS CAMPAIGN THE WAY IT'S GOING.
BILL HAD 8YEARS WE DON,T NEED HIM AGAIN DO WE?

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:53:55 GMT

Boy it must be nice having breakfast at Billary's

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ALWAYS RIGHT USA! — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:55:47 GMT

The only good thing obama will make is a good V.P for 8 years. Get over it! He is dividing the Democratic party!

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wake up, TX — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:02:00 GMT

Why do Hispanics like Hillary?

One of the reasons that Hispanics respect both Clintons is federal appointments and their championing of diversity.

During his 8 years in office Bill Clinton had 366 federal judicial appointments including 104 women, 23 Hispanics, 5 Asian Americans, 1 Indian American, and 61 African Americans.

Clinton famously stated in 1992 that his cabinet would look like America, and he followed through with real diversity in his appointments including cabinet positions for the following Hispanics, Frederico Peña, Bill Richardson, Aida Alvarez.

Overall Bill Clinton appointed more women to his cabinet that any other president in history with 11 total appointments including:
Madeleine Albright, Laura D'Andrea Tyson, Janet Reno, Donna Shalala, Alexis Herman, etc.

Bill Clinton had 2,160 total senate confirmed appointments of which 592 were women. Both Hillary and Bill have promoted diversity…real diversity and they have delivered.

Hillary is not a stranger to the Hispanic community. Her long-term fight for healthcare for children and for universal healthcare resonates with Hispanic communities. She has consistently promoted the interests of Hispanic communities. And she certainly is not a stranger to areas like south Texas.

Obama has no track record with Hispanics at the federal level and a very limited record in Illinois.
Everyone accuses Hillary Clinton and her husband of being divisive.

Well, isn't that exactly what Michelle Obama is when she says she will not vote for anyone BUT her husband! What arrogance and hubris!!

Everyone criticizes Hillary because they feel Bill will influence how she will run the country. Well at least he has experience - and things were better while he was in power than they have been at anytime during the last 7!! If Obama wins, it appears clear that Michelle will want to have her say as to how the White House will be run. Well, two people with no experience do not equal one with experience.

America is so desparate for a saviour that they have created one in Obama - like he is the second coming of Christ ready to save the world!! He is a man - just a man- a politician no less, who is making so many promises he is sure to fail. Wake up people.

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Scarecrow,Kansas — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:08:18 GMT

The question is do we really need or want Bill in the White House again?Answer for me is YES I do not remeber so many people losing their homes or lives when Bill was in office.And let's face it behind every GOOD Man is a GREAT WOMAN !!!!!!!

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Independent in Texas — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:02 GMT

The gallup poll shows Obama has had a lead for the past week. How does that show him to be a fraud, Harry? You sound like a parrot of the conservative talk shows.

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meg — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:20 GMT

people don't like desperate looking and petty candidates. i am speaking particularly to hillary c.
she stole from barack campaign themes, especially the one about change, all of a sudden she points that crooked finger at barack with extreme hate when it is well known that he was given permission by his friend to use these frases to counteract these lies critizism and judgements aticipated from his running apponients. one should be wary of this kind of person representing any position as commander and chief(what a joke for america if she wins.

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Umatu, NYC — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:54 GMT

Hillary will be the president of the United States of America!

I think that there are spider cracks starting to show through in the empty vase of "Yes we can"!

Obama is not uniting but dividing, first the democratic party and second the country. The venemous sparring among the electorate is a evident and all this caused by shouting "Change"!

Hillary '08!

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CJ — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:56 GMT

You Clintonites like negative here we go:

-Raised as a privilaged republican
-worked as a corporate lawyer for wal-mart(anti-union)
-rides Bill's coatails for his time in elected office
-carpet bagged her Senate seat on name recognition
-failed to push her healthcare plan as first lady
-bullied and covered up numerous documents and people
in order to circumvent investigations
-won't release her tax returns
-won't release white house documents
-approved of nafta before she was against it
-was for the war before she was against it
-voted to declare Iran's army as terrorists(Bush)
-has been funded by big money donors and lobbys
-willing to break signed agreement not to seat delegates
-accusations of lifting Deval Patricks speaches even though Patrick himself admitted they shared ideas, has willfully stolen

Obama's/Edwards rhetoric
-Says she will cover all people under her new Healthcare scheme even if that is false(mandated coverage(fines/penalties) does

not garauntee 100% participation)
-Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater, etc..etc...
-Says she will work against corporate lobbiests even though she is funded by them and says they represent real americans too

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure posters like Sierra can even do better than me. Now lets look at Obama's

negatives;

-Michel Obama's proud american comments diversion(debunked...she said REALLY proud, nobody is perfect)
-Stealing from Deval Patrick (debunked...done with permission..who would've thought the press cared)
-Rezko (quasi debunked...house purchase was legit but the press still wonders why they were friends)
-All talk no substance (this is ignorance on the part of those who don't care to listen to him outside of his victory

speeches)
-Healthcare(coverage lowers cost for all people without the risk of fines/penalties for adults. Universal child coverage will

most likely increase costs...just like HILLARY)
-Experience (debunked..has served more years in elected office than Hillary)
-Voted for troop funds (was outspoken against the war..YES he gets credit for it. NOBODY is willing to cut troop funds

outside of political reasons(Clinton)).
-One of the most liberal Senators (good..this is a common GOP "attack"..didn't work in 2006)
-Drug use..admitted in his book

Another comment, Republicans and Independents respect Obama even if they may disagree with his positions. Clinton does

not...I repeat..DOES NOT..have this luxury. Her negatives have risen since her campaign has began. Stone cold Democrats

(Opelika, Alabama) I know won't vote for her...I'm not lying. She has LOST the African American vote even though it was there

(50/50) before South Carolina(Bill's doing). Now..given that their policies are similar and they are both Democrats....who do

you think is ready to lead this country on day ONE. Please, Clinton supporters...tell me why I am wrong.

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D Reed, Charlotte NC — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:47 GMT

Billary makes me sick.. up to their dirty tricks -"politics as usual again".. its all about them and their legacy as usual. Obama must win or watchout for President McCain.. frankly between Billary or McCain who could tell the diff...

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TheObserver — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:13:17 GMT

Wow. I don't know if Hillary can beat McCain in the general election. I wish Bush was running again.

I'm fairly certain she would lick Bush.

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jessica,westbury,ny — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:17:52 GMT

Obama is NOT dividing the Democratic party. Look towards Bill and Hillary who started the mud slinging when the going got tough.Each party has multiple people vying for the same spot. Do not fault the man for defending himself. Also note that while defending himself, he isn't resorting to their tactics. Gentleman personified! Also,you can love something and not be proud of its actions. Would you be proud of your child that's a high school drop out? No. Would you still love them? Yes, you would. I love America. Am I proud of everything we've done? No, and any reasonable person wouldn't be. Let's choose a candidate using sound judgement instead of out of ignorance. I for one am proud of the strides Hillary has made for strong, independent women. Realistically though, it seems like electing her will be more of the same nonsense with Bill pulling the puppet strings. It's make or break time people! If we do not change the course of the country now, it will NOT happen any time soon! A fresh face means fresh ideas!!!
Vote Obama!!!

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Tom, Plattsburgh NY — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:19:39 GMT

It amazes me how nasty the fight is between the Obama Campaign and The Clinton Campaign & Vice Versa. Its time we all started to look at the candidates without regard to their party. I think that the majority of the country is sick and tired of the juvenile behavior of both parties. Its time to grow up. Your country deserves better

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Paul, NY, NY — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:20:46 GMT

<<OH... I REALLY hope Barack wins Wisconsin. And wins Wisconsin BIG!!!!!

Obama is brilliant. He's a fighter. He's a mighty good man.
Jennifer, IL (Sent Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:51 PM)>>

Then when you get done watching Nickelodeon you can go drink another glass of Kool-Aid, because ya know, Obama he is just so wicked cool......and I heard he's gonna save the world and cure cancer and if you can just dream anything is possible.......you bunch of Stepford Wife morons!

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pat — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:20:56 GMT

Hillary is Mme President - by far she is the most qualified person in this race (and the most intelligent one :))

Hillary 08

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Patrick, Boulder CO — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:22:10 GMT

You know, the bickering and ever-changing justifications for an HRC Presidency (experience, morphing policies, gender, etc) remind me of the ever-changing justifications for going to war in Iraq and then staying there - I don't buy or it trust it - the Clintons sound too much like George W Bush and we need to take our country back. Please join me in voting for Barack Obama!

If HRC would have read the National Intelligence Estimates, or heck, even the title of the Iraq War Resolution, I would like to think that she would/should have voted differently. Need to be right on Day One.

Remember one thing, words may be cheap, but fear is expensive. One campaign builds up hope - the other tells you what to be afraid of.

GO OBAMA in 2008!

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Enrique, Chicago — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:22:20 GMT

The primaries in TX and OH are two weeks away. Barack was in OH for the first time yesterday and in TX today. It will be a close race in both states. If we thought Hillary was negative going into Wisconsin, we haven't seen anything yet. She will say and do anything to win.

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Former Dem, California — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:23:13 GMT

Clinton: 'Running against the wind'
Challenges of circumstance and history test her political resolve
By Howard Fineman
MSNBC
updated 12:23 p.m. PT, Tues., Feb. 19, 2008
WASHINGTON - As Sen. Hillary Clinton pursues an uphill campaign, she faces the harsh reality of four political rules: Timing is everything, no good deed goes unpunished, what goes around comes around, and it’s better to be lucky than good.

Collectively, ironically, and through no fault of her own, these rules may doom her.

How long her quest survives depends in part on what happens in tonight's primary.

She has to win or finish extremely close in Wisconsin.

But even if she does manage to finish close, ten straight losses to Sen. Barack Obama will make winning in Ohio and Texas on March 4 that much more difficult.

And those two states will be her last big chance of the season.

But Clinton faces deeper, more basic challenges of circumstance and history.

Timing
It turns out her timing was bad. There was a moment, perhaps a recently as, say, five years ago, when the idea of a woman running for president would have been considered sensationally groundbreaking.

But that moment has passed, and it's only exaggerated by Obama's presence in the race. As a candidate, he offers the even more head-spinning notion of racial equality in the United States.

Seeing a woman in the upper reaches of public office is no longer startling. In Congress, women hold 16 Senate and 74 House seats. Two women have been secretary of state. There are eight female governors across the country.

By contrast, there is only one African-American senator today, and it's Obama.

The only African-American governor is Obama’s friend (and rhetorical inspiration) Deval Patrick of Massachusetts.

Good deeds
Ironically, Clinton and her husband Bill are suffering from the consequences of their own generational idealism.

Let’s give them credit where credit is due. They were leaders of an earnest wing of Baby Boomers in college who really did care about, and really did work for, racial harmony in America.

They both loved and admired Dr. Martin Luther King.

Bill Clinton insisted on reciting long swatches of the civil rights leader's speeches to his Georgetown University housemates. Hillary Clinton described in letters to friends how she threw her books against her dorm room walls in anger after learning of King's assassination in 1968.

Obama was six years old and living in Indonesia when all that that happened.

Now, forty years later after Memphis, the society that King envisioned, and the one that the Clintons advocated for, is closer at hand. And it's because of this that an Obama candidacy is possible.

What goes around
Here is a further irony, one I’m sure is not lost on the Clintons.

Bill Clinton would not have been nominated in 1992 if Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder had run for president. Wilder was the nation's first African-American governor, and by staying out of the race, he allowed Clinton to run as a blue-eyed Southern soul brother.

This identity allowed him to secure black support in the south. And it was these voters who would eventually become Clinton's "base of bases" for the remainder of his career.

But Mrs. Clinton's attempts to keep these voters in the family put the Obama campaign on the offensive.

Whether Obama intended to or not, the senator baited the Clintons when he compared himself to King.

Citing his own inspirational ability before the South Carolina primary, Obama likened his approach to politics to that of John F. Kennedy and King.

He said that without them, the country never would have gone to the moon or passed the Civil Rights Act.

Knowing their own history, their own passion, and the stakes, the Clintons went ballistic.

The former first lady tartly asserted that President Lyndon Johnson was the key to accomplishing both goals --- and the war of words was on.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Now Obama counts on huge African-American support, percentages that even eluded Bill Clinton, the country's so-called "first black president."

Better to be lucky
The last factor is luck. I guess you could argue that Clinton has been smiled on by the political gods. After all, she married a man who wound up being president.

But recent events haven't gone her way.

After Al Gore failed to gain the White House in 2000, Clinton set her sights on the presidency, probably thinking a weak George W. Bush would have been easy pickings.

But then Sept. 11 happened, she voted for the war, and found herself with nowhere to go.

Obama, on the other hand, has had a hearty helping of luck. A monumental pile, in fact.

He made it to the Senate after not one but TWO sex scandals leveled his potential rivals.

He got to run against Alan Keyes, an often bizarre-acting politician who didn’t even live in the state of Illinois.

And as for his war vote, well, he didn't have to make the same choice Clinton did. That's because Obama wasn't elected until two years after the first tanks rolled into Iraq.

Obama has also benefited from the media’s longtime loathing of the Clintons and from the fact that, at 46, he “reads” much younger.

None of this excuses Clinton's faults and mistakes. But give her a break. As Bob Seger sang long ago, she is running against the wind. I’m sure the Clintons remember the song.

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John Doe, Columbus, Ohio — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:24:54 GMT

I never hear any Hillary supporters say anything positive about her. They have plenty to say negative about Obama, but thats about it. I think that speaks very loudly about the candidate running as well as the people voting for her.
How is Obama dividing the Democratic party? He is uniting Democrats, Republicans, whites, blacks, old and young. Isn't that more important?

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SG, Outsid of Florida in The Bahamas — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:25:13 GMT

Wow, dont the "other" states count Wolfson? Sounds more like alienating, and dividing people already from the Hillary camp, what Obama wins either Texas or Ohio, will it be "Oh, Pennsylvania is the big one were after?"

Geesh, im independant but at least be fair.

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Gillis Phoenix, Arizona — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:26:50 GMT

Texans are not idiots. They know bull when they see one. Even if it is coming from lovely Hillary. Here's my message to Texans and Ohioans.

About Clinton’s so called comprehensive health coverage. What you need to know.

It appears Hillary Clinton is already trying to pay off the health insurance companies big time. By forcing healthy young adults to buy health insurance at exorbitant premiums you create a windfall for these companies. What’s better than a captive market. Gradually we continue to erode our freedoms in this country to politicians who convince all of us that what they are doing is in our best interest. Be it Bush on wire-tapping or Hillary Clinton on health care. I am a computer engineer and I have health insurance. But it was not always so, until I got a job after college and got married. I simply led a healthy lifestyle and avoided danger as much as I could - no skiing or skydiving. There was no way that anyone could have made me to pay my hard earned money to insurance companies at that time in my life. Obama’s health plan mandates that children and the elderly, the most vulnerable, be insured. It focuses on bringing down the costs and making it affordable for those skiers and skydivers who want to buy it. Auto insurance covers you in case of accidents. Watch what you eat, wash your hands and look in the cup before drinking. Issues like cancer need government intervention, but the individual must cover issues like obesity and skiing accidents.

Speaking of Health care costs, let me tell you a short story. I am a 50 year old with grown children. My 23-year-old daughter decided to go on a trip to Africa. She traveled to Nigeria a third world country. As she trekked on foot with her friends, she stomped her foot against a small rock embedded in the uneven road so she bled badly and the toe nail was scrapped off her toe. With no hospitals around for miles she was informed about a nurse in the nearby village. The nurse gave her a tetanus shot, cut off the hanging toenail, cleaned her wound with iodine and bandaged the wound. The nurse then gave her some OTC pain tablets. The cost of the treatment was 500 naira (about $5 US dollars). Her injury has since healed and her toenail grown back.

The other day, I was cutting a piece of sheet rock to patch a hole in my wall when I pulled the razor sharp knife into my index finger. I had a cut about an inch long and a quarter inch deep. I held it together with a band-aid for most of the day. But at night I had so much pain, I could not sleep, and it was bleeding when I took off the band-aid. My wife suggested going to the emergency hospital that night but I dismissed it. This is not an emergency, I said, It’s just a small painful cut. The only problem I have is just the pain, and I think I can handle a little pain. Besides, I was not ready to go and wait for two or more hours before I could be seen. The next thing I know my wife was on the phone with a nurse from the insurance company. After what seemed like a 30-minute discussion she hung up the phone. Honey, you have to go to the hospital, she said. The nurse said to put pressure on it and that you need stitches. My wife grabbed an OTC bandage and wrapped my finger tight.

After an hour the pain became unbearable even for the stoic me. We had to go to the emergency hospital. As soon as we sat down at the waiting room, I took off the bandage she had put around the finger and the pain immediately subsided. The bandage had cutoff blood circulation to the finger. It was no longer bleeding but it was the cause of the heightened pain. I wanted to just go back home and to bed. But my wife argued, you need stitches and you are already here.

Well, I was put in a really nice room equipped with everything including a television. It took a nurse to give me a tetanus shot, two guys to clean the wound, a Doctor to put two stitches on the finger and to write a prescription for a narcotic pain killer - God forbid that an American should have a painful finger even for a couple of hours. There was a lot of ‘sorry about that’ from the nurse, doctor and the cleaning guys for the pain from the needles, chemicals and the cleaning swabs.

As we drove out of the hospital I said to my wife who is a human resource professional and have negotiated health insurance for her company. Honey, what do you think the care I have just received would cost. She said about $1000.00 dollars, maybe more.

We make the iodine and the band-aids, and the tetanus shots? Why did it cost just $5 in Nigeria and $1000 in the US? I think $5 is the real market value for such treatment, not $1000. That is the problems we need to solve, not create more reasons why only very few people in this country can save for education, or retirement, or have a nice sight seeing tour of our world. Voting for Hillary Clinton is a mistake we cannot afford to make again after voting for Bush in 2004. Boy that hurt. Hillary is not Bill, I promise you.

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Rick,ky — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:28:17 GMT

I bet Bill Clinton has ALWAYS been proud to be an American regardless if Hillary would be in the lead. Just another reason NOT to elect this boy to the White House.
eddiec, Memphis TN (Sent Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:53 PM)

Spoken like a True, ignorant of the Fact's Hillary supporter. She is Proud, If you vote for Her, If you don't, then you're a piece of S--T( You fill in the blank's eddieC).Tennessee (Proud of them). Virginia Beside tenn, Alabama to your south, Georgia same, Missiori to your West, Illinois, to your North, She's Not proud of None of those Voter's. They know nothing because they voted for Reason, Only ignorant of the Fact Hillary Cultist are the sane voter's.Heck, with this post, i could be be a Hillary supporter since i know how to sling mud & call people names. Heck, the MSM would call me part of her Base.

I used Reason over a year ago & put My support towards Barack Hussein Obama for President. O My God, what a name, i can't vote for him, look at his name. You hillary supporter's are the Sorest Loser's ever Go Away, America has Problem's to attend to, We don't need the Clinton's problem's to attend to also. BYE! Now Go Away.

Barack Obama for President!!!!!!!!!!!

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Southern Mama for Obama, Keller Texas — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:28:46 GMT

I sure am glad some of you have already voted...and now it comes down to me...oh excuse me , Texas. The only people I have met down here voting for Hillary are over 60....or scared Republicans.

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Former Dem, California — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:29:16 GMT

To: Rick,ky (Sent Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:44 PM)
and all the Obama network folks.

Keep in mind, that you CAN NOT and you WILL NOT win the Whitehouse with a divided party. And the way you people speak, you sound like the other 1/2 of the Dem's that support Hillary do not matter. Well guess again, we ALL matter.

Go luck in November without the SUPPORT AND BLESSING of Hillary Clinton and her supports! You will come in second! JUST WORD'S! JUST WORD'S

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GA, Edgewood, Kentucky — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:30:11 GMT

Chris Matthews is always saying that Democrats vote their heart instead of their brain or something reasonable close. Anyway, it sure appears that way. No knock on Obama, but when you look at his experience and resume, you think that he really is not ready for the highest office in the land. Then you listen to him and he pulls you in and you start believing that anything is possible. We will see what happens. I would say his good fortune was having Hillary Clinton as his opponent.

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Kelly (from Pittsburgh) — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:32:24 GMT

Why is it Hillary supporters always blame Obama for dividing the party. He is giving the American voters another choice. In mnay of our oppinions a much better choice. Alot of us are sick of going to vote with a choice only between the lesser of two evils. Hillary Clinton has done nothing in years of experience that entitled her to this nomination. She must earn it. She is the decisive candidate. Not only amongst Republicans and Independents (but also among Democrats). It is much better to realize this now (before the general election - when she will lose in a landslide). That's not Obama's fault, it is the history of the Clintons' that has led to her opposition.

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Sierra, SF — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:33:09 GMT

Patty, SD,CA: '...Don't worry people Clinton is going to be the Democratic candidate.

Obama Sucks...'

Thanks for being so positive, Patty
and so delusional

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Ian — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:33:33 GMT

eddiec, Memphis TN:
Good to see the Clintons have the illiterate racist vote.

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Stephen S, Farmington, NM — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:34:56 GMT

The thought of more of the Clinton soap opera in the white house makes me ill.
I'm wondering to what depths they will drag my party in their scorched earth tactics.

Go Obama, please!

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Jenna, Alberta, Canada — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:35:53 GMT

I think if people really looked at what these candidates stood for in terms of their ethics we would clearly know who are new democratic leader should be. Unfortuently we rely on mainstream media to tell us what to think, how to think, and even when to think. Not only has Hillary Clinton shown herself to be corrupt and wavering when pushed by lobbyist I also question the 'experience' she recieved while being the first lady. If for no other reason than the fact that America needs a change I would vote for Obama. But that is not the only reason- their are far many excellent values this man possesess that would take far to long to write. With all my heart i hope Obama goes on to become the President.

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Jim Ann Arbor, MI — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:36:02 GMT

Texas is an open primary. My bet is Obama pulls independents, pulls an upset, and essentially ends this shamockery.

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STAVY, Philly, PA — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:38:00 GMT

Its funny how they Clinton supporters are ready to have Obama as VP meanwhile the Obama will not one Clinton to share his ticket. Clinton supporters know that she cannot win the general elections without Obama. A woman who cannot run a campaigner successfully, she did not have any plans after super Tuesday. How can you trust her to lead when the unexpected will happen. A lot of people are supporting her because of Bill, God forbid Bill becomes incapacitated, are the Clinton supporters going to panic then. Lets face it, this woman cannot beat the republicans, vote for Obama, who is straight to the American people and straight on the issues and politics of now. Her negativity and win at all cost is becoming divisive for the party. Obama has build a good coalition of democrates with the young and independents, lets not blow the chance of the democrates to have a strong party moving forward. Vote Obama or this party will be doomed for a long time.

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Diane, Hackensack, NJ — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:40:47 GMT

Obama is brilliant. He's a fighter. He's a mighty good man.

That's the problem, he's a man. A typical man, full of hot air.

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William -- Roanoke, VA — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:41:29 GMT

Hillary continues to divide the Democratic Party and also the nation as a whole since polls show she could not beat McCain presently. Her entitlement attitude of being the nominee is frankly testing the good will of many. She would be booed if she was not a Clinton. Obama is doing better than Clinton's husband when he was 45 and running, which is hard for her to accept. Maybe she really does believe Bill is the greatest of all even though history and recent events show differently. The Clinton fans are so emotional and Obama supporters are showing thoughtful consideration.

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Baileigh — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:43:52 GMT

eddiec wrote: I bet Bill Clinton has ALWAYS been proud to be an American regardless if Hillary would be in the lead.

I'll bet he was really proud to be an American when he was "not having sexual relations with that woman" in the oval office, and then we he lied about it to the American people, eh? My husband is a marine, and if he had been caught doing this he would have been dishonorably discharged on the spot, yet his commander-in-chief gets away with it. Does that make YOU proud, eddiec?

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Jamie, Salt Lake, Utah — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:43:58 GMT

Raising the stakes and the taxes afterwards!

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Pete, Albany, NY — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:44:01 GMT

Howard Wolfson, you little devil, are you actually suggesting that Ohio and Texas are "significant"?

And, of course, you're downplaying Wisconsin and Hawaii because they're "insignificant", right?

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ERIC BULLOCK,PHILA PA — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:45:00 GMT

It is a pittiful thang that day in and day out the Hillary and her desperate team has so much time thinking about ways to try make voters think differently about Obama, I hope that soon they will realize that all those cheap tricks don't work we the people see straight thru those bill clinton tactics so call smug rules of for the white house..If hillary wins the nomination that will be the day that all Obama supports will vote for Mccain to make sure that she don't win by dirty tricks and anything go rules..
Obama for president.

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Bill S, Phoenix,AZ — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:56:46 GMT

When I saw this Hillary "Night Shift" ad I thought she was rehearsing for hosting Saturday Night Live. They think anyone with two brain cells would believe that she worked the night shift and was going to protect the jobs of all those Ohio lunch box dems, when she stood with Bill in supporting NAFTA which is big reason so many people in Ohio have collected unemployment.

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Barbara Smith Troy, TX — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:45:31 GMT

Wake up people! This country WA a much better place when Bill Clinton ran the country. I for one, do NOT care what he did in his private life. Did we have war, gouged gasoline prices, people losing their homes left and right and living hand to mouth???

It will take a Clinton to clean up after a Bush yet again. My vote is for Hillary. I am not a die hard Democrat, I will vote for the best man or WOman in this case

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Garlok Uth — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:49:03 GMT

Hey y'all,

Don't we all know that the Republicans are literally chomping at the bit to have Hilary as their opponent? If we all want to greatly increase the odds of losing a slam dunk election let's nominate someone that millions of people despise and independents are loathe to vote for. No wonder so many of the 'lower tier" voters are excited about Hilary. Gimme a break!!

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Dave, Binghamton, NY — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:50:05 GMT

On Sexism and Racism (or any other "isms" at work); I thought the whole point was to have a vote based on qualification, not gender or race. Yet here we are, veiled and explicit racist and sexist comments all over the board. Maybe as a caucasian male, I'm an endagered species out here, but my decision is not based on pigmentation or plumbing. I happen to support Obama, because I believe he has a better shot at winning, and I do believe that he will be better able than HRC to at least loosen, if not break, the gridlock that has made our federal government a joke. If Hillary wins, she too will have my support, as I agree with her a whole lot more than John Mccain. It's pretty funny, you get the same 5 people posting on the board all day, and people read it like some macro trend. All the opinions on this board wouldn't carry 2 precincts. Get over yourselves, pick a candidate, and be prepared to support the winner or suffer the consequences.

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Deanna Mckeehan — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:52:37 GMT

Obama talks about change. I have yet to hear how he plans to make these changes. All I have heard is talk. He says he brought the Democrats and Republicans together on issues. The reason the Republicans and Democrats came together is because they did not agree with Bush. On the mortgage issue, Hillary wants to freeze the rates for 5 years. The homeowners could afford the rates when they signed the note. If she freezes the rates at where the loan is currently at then the homeowners would be able to afford their homes. Obama says to take a look at the individual family incomes. Be realistic. Hillary gives solutions to the issues.

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Jared, Kirkland, WA — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:55:03 GMT

It's surprising to me all the negativity coming from Dems these days. We should be so lucky to have 2 qualified candidates. Unfortunately, however, Hillary's mudslinging is starting to turn me off, even though I think she'd be a good president. The one thing I cringe over is this notion that Hillary has more experience than Obama. That's a total fiction! First Lady is not a political office, last time I checked. Nobody elected her to be Bill's wife, and she has about as much Senate experience as Obama, so why does this keep coming up? So stupid people will keep repeating it? That's a classy tactic there, Hillary. Also, quite frankly, the most important job a president has is giving speeches. Think about it. How many bills did Clinton draft by his own hand while in office? His biggest influence was his gift for gab. There's plenty of other cabinet members to do the heavy lifting. We need leadership, which for a president, is all about speeches. The president's biggest moment all year is the State of the Union address. What does that tell you? That speeches not only matter, they're paramount. Presidents talk to people (usually giving prepared speeches of other people's words.) That's about all they ever do, or should do. Love to see someone rebut that with an intelligent argument.

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Jerry Walker — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:12:11 GMT

Clinton pushes for early voting so that her supporters can't change their minds.

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Carmella, Kansas City, MO — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:04:07 GMT

Jared I am so glad someone else feels the same way I do. Hillary has some very good qualities of her own, however she was the first lady not an elected official, she should argue own what she plans to do for the country and let the experience card go.

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ingrid erin yn — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:05:03 GMT

ngridwell obama the new god adolf hitler was like you and i think you are the same i sure hope you are going to hell ,no nigger in this lile and you are not even black hello zebra well i dont think i am on the censor well well free america?????????? hell no obama muslim slim bag gooooo to hell clinton 08888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

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Johan Lorenzen, Dubai — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:14:52 GMT

I believe that you mean that the now famous leaked Obama memo had Clinton winning Texas and Ohio. That is what I recall.

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Don, State College, PA — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:30:31 GMT

Sierra

If obama wins the nomination then the real contest begins. If you think America is going to accept his leftist liberal views you are the one who is delusional.

Hilliary 08 and then 2012

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Matt Weiss, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:36:50 GMT

I want every poster on every site who writes "Barack Hussein Obama" to also refer to his opponent as "Hillary Rodham Clinton" and to refer to the presumptive Republican nominee as "John Sidney McCain III." If you do that, fine. It's a weird quirk (isn't it assassins who always get a middle name?) but if it's what you like to do, fine.

But unless you start doing that, you're behaving abominably. At best, you're stirring up a little xenophobia. At best, you're suggesting the guy is an enemy of America. It's petty. For shame.

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Linda, Dallas, TX — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:50:00 GMT

Bill Clinton just happened to be in office during the Internet and dot com boom which led to a thriving economy. So just because the economy was good doesn't mean it was because of him. He is brilliant, but is too easily distracted, if you know what I mean. Just think of all the good things that could have come out of the man hours and money spent on the MonicaGate and other scandals. Even Thursday, the 21st, there is another court case to be scheduled for the Clintons concerning campaigning FRAUD. That can't be good for the country. Having a person living in the White House who was disbarred because of lying isn't good for the country.

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Estelle Shope, Tucson, AZ — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:41:33 GMT

I wanted to watch the returns % by %. Instead I got at least 45 minutes of a Barack Obama campaign speech on Fox, Msnbc, and CNN. How can the news media justify this bias?

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Truth is power — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:05:50 GMT

Wake up people! there has been a serious problem in America for all these years since Bill Clinton's presidency ended. His presidency should be a lesson for the American people that only a committed soul could make a difference as a leader. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have committed their lives to make a difference in everybody's life. This 2008 primary election is not a beauty contest or celebrity contest.
We should not use words to full people for our selfishness, struggling for power interest. The American people should be smart enough not to be moved by mere words. Politics is not a game. America would not be good in another inexperience hand. For anybody to be qualified for high office in this world should have extensive experience in their resume. Having the freedom to contest for presidency in America does not qualified anybody to be president. Give your votes to Hillary. She is the one who deserve to be the next president. She is committed and she is ready. Her commitment is to make a difference in our lives. If we do not give her this chance, everybody in America will regret it.

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Stephen Pardes — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:51:50 GMT

Listen up Obama- fan-atics

I/m getting nauseated by the undeserved "rock star" adulation this first term senator gets. As has been said: "We have two democratic candidates: One is a senator from NY who was born in illinois, the other is a senator from illinois, who was (apparently) born in a manger!!!"

There is nothing Obama has done during his 46 years on this earth that qualifies him for the presidency. going to law school even Harvard law school and being a former editor of the harvard law review does not a president make and Obamas run for the senate was a joke",since the incumbent withdrew from the race and alan Keyes was brought in (from another state) as a substitute.

While Obama certaintly knowes how to orate (if someone else like Ted Sorenson (Kennedy's speechwriter writes his speeches), his ability to debate on substantive issues is halting, He shows no real knowledge of the issues that face us--and essentially is saying 'ditto" to the positions that hillary staked out long ago. In addition, while one of the fantasies about him is that he will be a so-called "unifier", I see no reason to believe that since his presence in the race is causing dramatic polarization of the True democratic electorate, into black vs brown (and white), women vs. men, and the well to do "democrat" vs the poor and middle class.

He also claims to be an "outsider" but there is considerable evidence that plans were laid for his 'run" for the presidency years ago, including his focus on "caucases" which can be dominated by a relatively small number of enthusiasts who can intimidate other voters in a ballot that has no privacy. His "winning" such "raucous caucases" has been extolled by media hostile to the Clintons who denigrate and cynically misinterpret everything the clinton campaign says (or does) while praising Obama, a man without proven abilities other than his so-called "charismatic" arrogance and minimizing his obvious defects as a person and a candidate. THATt is how Obama got his "momentum"- i.e.; thru media manipulation since many Americans have such short attention spans that they prefer to have their minds made up by the superficial and biased analyses of pundits rather than taking a breath and taking a real look at Obama's qualifications.

My family never "owned slaves" and I have many black friends and supported black causes- so I have no racial "guilt" to atone for and, while I would like the rest of the world to "like" Americans, I don't think that "putting a black face" on our President is going to make those who are hostile to our interests love us.

I think that Obama fanatics who are enchanted with his incantations need to acknowledge that the major reason for their fascination is the fact that Obama IS a man without much experience and is, thus, sometone into whom they can project any fantasy they desire i.e.; Savior, Redeemer, "black kennedy" and so forth.

Unfortunately, having experience means that you also have a track record that can be criticized and , in Hillary's case often distorted. In this elelction, it appears, unfortunately, that young Americans may wake up too late from their dreams about change and realize that the fellow they have elected to the White House was a 'surfer" riding the Wave of America's desire for change-rather than a Creator.

Inspirational Words are important - but there comes a times, particulrly empty words, are not enough, when it is time to act, when it is time to do, when it is time to achieve. Despite Obamas words about 'we" creating change- the only power "we" really have is the power of our vote, the power to elect a president who will either implement (or not implement our wishes. Can Obama fulfill his promises? I doubt it and think he is already making statements to reduce our expectations i.e.; that change is 'hard" and that he 'can;t do it alone"

Which is simply to say this- unless obama immediately sweeps into office many senators and congressman sympathetic to his views (which is unlikely) he will have to deal with the Washingtom -that is- a washington made up of elected officals with different constituencies and interests. Those of you that think, (as the LA Times put it) that he is a "magic negro" who can wave a wand and make everything right just because he (and you) wishe it-- vote for him-- Me- I live in the real world- and in that world- Hillary's intelligence, proven ability to help others and create change for the better with the help of both Democrats and republicans trumps oratory and "style" without proven substance!!

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tsp — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:30:47 GMT

I*ts not the 1990's and I am awake. Clintons mudslinging is unacceptable. Even If I has been supporting her in the beginning I wouldn't be now. Anyone with character doesn't attack their opponent when they get desperate. I am all for a woman president when it is the right woman. Obama is the uniter it sis clinton who is the divider.

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Sam — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:15:02 GMT

Just a quick question for all those campaigning based on experience. How much experience did Bill & Hilary Clinton had when Bill was first elected as president of the United States?

The sooner the democrates realizes that the "Americans does not only need those very experienced politicians to move forward but that someone with the ability to lead America through this contemporary world of numerous changes in political, security & economic landscape etc " the easier it would be for America to have another Democratic Party President. America need a fresh mind to work with both the experienced politicians and the innovative ideas of the modern-day politics.