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jaycee, Ventura, California — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:20:00 GMT

Hillary surprised me last night by turning away from that little devil who was sitting on her shoulder and looking a lot like Mark Penn. She put in her usual solid debate performance and resisted a number of opportunities to go negative, even though you know she was getting an earful of bad advice about how it’s her only chance to win.

Except for that half-hearted “change you can Xerox” line (which I certainly hope she didn’t write herself), she gave a classy performance. Some will say she was cynically playing a vulnerability card at the end, but I choose to believe it came from the heart. It can’t have been the advice of her little devil.

Her closing statement sounded more to me like the beginnings of a gracious acceptance of the inevitable. Now that the NY Times has decided to help consolidate John’s base for him, the sooner we do the same the better. If Hillary can continue in this vein it will go a long way toward healing our wounds and rehabilitating the Clinton name in the Democratic Party.

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kenn — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:25:47 GMT

It will take OBAMA spending 4 times as much as the next guy.WHO SAYS YOU CANT BUY AN ELECTION .NEW AGE POLITICS .

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Michael — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:27:23 GMT

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

the republicans will be all over this.

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Adam/NYC — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:27:58 GMT

I really don't think it's quite fair to compare Obama's speeches during a primary to those of Kennedy'r or King's. It would, however, be fair once he is president and his speeches are about policy. First of all, nobody can hold a candle to King he was talking about things more important than anyhting we face now.

Imagine Obama's speeches at the UN, or SOTU, I think they would go down in history as "political literature" as she suggests Kennedy's did.

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kenn — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:28:18 GMT

Hey they are almost tied time for her to throw in the towel,in america close means over like the superbowl the patriots are going to win why bother playing .SUPER MAN FOR PRESIDENT HOPE THE REPUBS and INDEPENDANTs DONT FIGURE OUT HE is the invisable man

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:29:13 GMT

"Is Obama splitting hairs when he claims that technically he takes no money from federal lobbyists but takes money from folks who work at firms with federal lobbyists? "

No, but you are.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:33:32 GMT

In other notable expenditures during the lean month of January, Mrs. Clinton paid $275,000 to Sunrise Communications, a South Carolina firm that was supposed to turn out black voters for her and collected nearly $800,000 in total.

That really was money well spent when Obama cleaned her clock out there LOL.

the campaign spent more than $11,000 on pizza and $1,200 on Dunkin’ Donuts runs.

Looks like they should have hired Richard Simmons as a exercise guru after that meal......

The advertising firm owned by Mandy Grunwald, the longtime media strategist for both Mrs. Clinton and Bill Clinton, the former president, has collected $2.3 million in fees and expenses, and is still owed another $240,000.

With a 10 state losing streak, she really needs to find someone who can gt the message out better for that kind of money....

Nearly $100,000 went for party platters and groceries before the Iowa caucuses, even though the partying mood evaporated quickly. Rooms at the Bellagio luxury hotel in Las Vegas consumed more than $25,000; the Four Seasons, another $5,000. And top consultants collected about $5 million in January, a month of crucial expenses and tough fund-raising.

For a woman who claims she wants to help the poor, this showing of her financial records proves without a shadow of a doubt that she is not a good record keeper of the books. How can she run a country if she cannot run her own campaign??????

From the start of the campaign, some donors had concerns about the Clinton team’s ability to manage money.

From the time she had to shell out money to Paula Jones for her husband's sexual troubles, The Clinton's have been spending money like mad. If this is the kind of spending we can look forward to in a Clinton Administration, the outlook for the country right now is even bleaker then the press makes it out to be.

“The Senate race spending in 2006 was an omen for a lot of us inside the campaign, but Hillary assured us that her presidential bid would be the best run in history,” said one major Clinton fund-raiser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations within the campaign.

I think she stole that line from Nancy Pelosi.....
She is as original as Obama.....
At least Obama admitted he borrowed the line from his friend.....

Yet the Clinton campaign at times found itself spending money on items that were not ultimately helpful. As part of their get-out-the-vote effort in Iowa, the campaign came up with a plan to have a local supermarket deliver sandwich platters to pre-caucus parties. It spent more than $95,384 on Jan. 1 at Hy-Vee Inc., a local grocery chain in West Des Moines, Iowa, in addition to buying loads of snow shovels to clear the walks for caucusgoers. Mrs. Clinton came in third in the Jan. 3 caucus. It did not snow.

Probably took the shovels home for the day when she has to beat her husband with them....

Sandwich platters????
Beef Angus Sandwiches perhaps????
Dijon mustard and kettle cooked chips????
This sounds like something Elvis would serve.....

For instance, Mr. Obama spent nearly $480,000 on 1,331 spots in Missouri; he won the state’s primary, a closely fought contest and a national political bellwether, by one percentage point.

A man knows how to keep a checkbook.....
A woman knows how to spend the checkbook........
Maybe Hillary should have ordered 100 less Supreme Pizza's from Pizza hut and used the money there instead.

“Obviously, some campaigns are more careful and wise with their money than others,” Jim Jordan, a Democratic consultant who ran John Kerry’s presidential campaign until November 2003. “But these budgetary post-mortems tend to follow a familiar pattern; winners are by definition smart, and losers are dumb and wasteful. In truth, campaign budgeting is hard and complicated and three-dimensional and just impossible to understand without the full time-and-place context of the whole race.”

Obviously Obama got more bang for his buck....

If The Clinton's can not manage their own campaign finances, there is just no way we can trust them to run the finances of the country. When it comes to Money, Obama seems to be the better choice on the democratic side.

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:33:44 GMT

I wonder why the media spends so much time thinking about Senator Obama's speeches? The must be pretty powerful after all since they get so much discussion - and results.

It seems the new way to prove what a great journalist you are is to prove that you aren't all that impressed with Senator Obama. In some circles, that's known as hating.

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Alan, NJ — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:34:41 GMT

I would also check the Vanity Fair article about how BO cut a back room deal with Emil Jones Jr to get a clear run at the US senate seat. Prior to that he used legal maneuvers to keep the incumbent off the ballot when he first run for State Senate. He may not know the ways of Washington but he sure knows the ways of Chicago.

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Rick, NC — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:36:03 GMT

Hillary needs to find a graceful way to exit while laying the blame for the coming carnage in november on obama and his pie in the sky followers...I detest mccain for going from straight talk to stray talk as he took on the Bush III mantle but he will kill obama this fall

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Tony, New Jersey — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:36:33 GMT

Hill is a disaster. She can not even run her campaign and she wants everyone to believe she can run this country.
Its like having a bankrupt accountant do you finances.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:39:20 GMT

More media prostitution by First Read on behalf of Barrack Obama. Your asses are owned by Hillary haters Mathews and Russert, and you are being "turned out" by "Pimp Daddy B.O."
How does it feel to be whores?
Here's a story for you, and it's brewing out here faster than you could ever imagine. We who support Hillary will continue to do so, through to the end of the convention. Following which, depending on the outcome, we will keep our options open.
Do you get it?
No I don't think so.
So, I'll spell it out for you.....Hillary's supporters are NOT going to vote for Obama in the general election.
She'll do what she has to, in order to maintain appearances and not be blamed for Obama getting hbis ass whooped in the 'general' by McCain.
She'll make a plea for unity, and she'll say & do the right thing for The Democratic Party. (Something Obama and his supporters don't care about, by the way. Just ask the people of Michiugan and Florida)
But Hillary Democrats, who LOVE their country, and who don't want it to fall into the hands of a self serving sell-out like "Pimp Daddy B.O." will never, ever under any circumsances vote for this shucking and jiving used car salesman.
Get ready First Read....for the shock of your life when Democrats like myself bolt the party and vote for McCain.
It's Hillary, or it's NOBODY.
Period.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
Patriotism OVER Personalities

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tony, nyc — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:39:40 GMT

McCain needs to be quiet.
Keating 5?, Affairs? Bushs war? Flip flopping???

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Patrick, Detroit, MI — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:42:09 GMT

If the debate last night had one lesson for Hillary it's that going negative against Obama is the worst thing to do. Her advantage is her experiences her emotions are her attributes. But alas it maybe too little, too late.

Obama controlled the audience, his applause lines were replied with almost unanimous applause. His humurous annecdotes made him pause to wait for the laughter to subside. In contrast Hillary's lines were luke warm. Her jokes gained her boos. For her best moment to be at the end of the debate is telling on a myriad of levels.

To use a boxing analogy, Obama has versatile style while Clinton is looking for a one punch knockout that never materializes. Hiilary in boxing a jab is the best weapon and for you your emotional connection for why you run is that jab.

Obama, don't let the flash fool you. It's the punch you don't see coming that lays you flat. Protect yourself at all times! Let's get it on!

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J. Merle Stanley Westchester, NY — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:47:44 GMT

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MK,MO — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:51:31 GMT

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY / 'But Hillary Democrats, who LOVE their country, and who don't want it to fall into the hands of a self serving sell-out like "Pimp Daddy B.O." will never, ever under any circumsances vote for this shucking and jiving used car salesman.
Get ready First Read....for the shock of your life when Democrats like myself bolt the party and vote for McCain.
It's Hillary, or it's NOBODY.
Period.'

j I have to wonder why first read continues to post you’re ranting, you must know somebody there or something, for some reason you apparently think your opinion should matter, guess what? it don't, vote for mccain, nobody cares

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kmnecole, st louis, mo — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:53:03 GMT

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:39 AM)

Whores, pimp daddy, prostitution, a**es, -are u serious?

Now, is it really the Obama supporters who are hateful and vile?

My, my, are we angry this morning?

U may not vote for Obama should he get the nom., but according to WI exit polls- many Clinton supporters will- and last I checked- Obama still lead McCain in national exit polls (though still pretty early for that yet).

But- such language- regardless of who the nominee is. I am a person who would in no way vote for Clinton, however, I would also in no way disrespect her or my fellow Americans in that manner That's just in bad taste- and leads no one to think very highly of you or your opinion.

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:53:54 GMT

*Hugs J. Merle*

It's going to be okay. If we can survive 8 years of "W", we can survive whoever comes next. I admire your devotion to Senator Clinton, even though I question the methods you both have used over the campaign.

That said though, I wish you well.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:58:22 GMT

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
Patriotism OVER Personalities

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:39 AM)

I think you mean....

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
After all, It's money that matters!

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Carol Rubenstein, Gambier, Ohio — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:00:40 GMT

Watching Barack Obama's style of leadership, makes me think of the paradigm shift taking place in board rooms across America. Great leaders of today know that to transform an organization one has to involve the workers, allow their voice… empower them to take responsibility. Sustainably successful companies of the 21st century strike a balance of mutual respect between management and labor... and that success, while inspired from the leader, grows from the bottom up. You can't FORCE someone to execute your will over a long period of time, but great lengths can be gained by the inner drive of the SELF WILL.

That, is the kind of influence I see Barack Obama having on the American people.

AND... I would say he exerted some of that influence on Hillary last night during the debate. It was as if his leadership on stage (and he did look presidential while she looked strong, but subject to that), inspired her to make that conciliatory remark at the end.

How many of us have experienced being in the presence of someone with real power? The kind of power and greatness that stems from goodness? If you've ever had the experience you know it can influence your own thoughts and actions.

To think--if it's true--that Barack Obama is the kind of leader that could influence others this way... "bringing out the better angels" of our nature, then this is the man I want negotiating face to face with America's adversaries.

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Bruce, St. Helens, OR — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:03:05 GMT

This may be a naieve question, but where did Sen. Clinton get $5 million to loan to her campaign?

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CitizenJ — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:03:09 GMT

J. Merle Stanley Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:47 AM)

For someone who used to go after Obama for using Republican talking points, you sure do sound like....a Republican.

It is interesting that you complain about all the horrible things Obama will do. Especially since his policies are essentially the same as Clinton's. It leaves 2 possibilities: 1) You are a closet Republican who doesn't really know it yet, or 2) You are so petty that you think this is some sort of game in which if your rival wins, you are willing to help an even bigger rival defeat the other in order to relieve your childish anger.

At best, you are a "Lieberman Democrat". But everyday that you come on here spitting your vitriolic diatribes for no other reason than that you can't accept the fact that Obama has run a better campaign than Clinton, you inch ever closer to skipping straight to being a "Karl Rove Republican".

There is a place for everyone in the new American majority. Even for you, J. Merle. I hope you don't let your pettiness stand in the way of it.

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KYDemocrat — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:11:26 GMT

I am a Clinton supporter and will not vote for Obama should he be the nominee. He is all hot air. He is seductive, manipulative, and persuasive. These are not characteristics of a good president - for example the one we have now.

I will vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

And yes, Obama is taking money from lobbyists and it is not hair splitting to say he is even if the money appears to be from employees.

Wake up America before we have another 4 to 8 years like we have just about finished.

Clinton is the wise vote, Obama is the emotional vote.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:15:26 GMT

This may be a naieve question, but where did Sen. Clinton get $5 million to loan to her campaign?

Bruce, St. Helens, OR (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 10:03 AM)

Found some more Chinese dishwashers?????
Bill's deals in Russia???????
Bill's speeches in South America......

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:16:20 GMT

I think Adam makes a good point. People point to Kennedy's speeches, but most of the notable examples are from after he was elected, when he was confronting issues not as a candidate but as the president.

There are a few exceptions. His speech about religion and politics, in response to concerns about his being Catholic, was very good. And of course there's a few notable others.

King likewise was speaking as an unofficial office holder as head of a larger effort - a real world effort, aiming for bigger things than electing a candidate.

Obama is a great speaker, and if served by good speechwriters (is Noonan willing to cross the aisle?), there's a pretty good chance we'll see some memorable text from his speeches as president.

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sg, michigan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:17:43 GMT

J. Merle Stanley Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:47 AM)

Sounds like somebody needs to take a nap.

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CitizenJ — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:27:56 GMT

I am a Clinton supporter and will not vote for Obama should he be the nominee. He is all hot air. He is seductive, manipulative, and persuasive. These are not characteristics of a good president - for example the one we have now.

KYDemocrat (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 10:11 AM)

KYDemocrat,

While I completely disagree with your assessment, I am going to give you some friendly advice. When you are criticizing someone, try not to use adjectives like "seductive" or "persuasive". First, "seductive" sounds creepy in this context. Second, "persuasiveness" is a more of a good quality than a bad one.

Manipulative is a nice negative charge though. Good work.

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Lenore Weber — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:37:53 GMT

SO let me get this straight - Hillary can't run her home life or her campaign. What a farce she is. I have been a stout Republican my whole life and I am voting for Obama when they come to PA.
I will never vote for John McCain. He is to old. Ronald Reagan was in his 70's when he was elected and he was a mess at the end of his presidency. John McCain is also in his 70's right now. Do you honestly think he is not set in his ways? Do you honestly think he is open to new ideas? How about some change?
Barack Obama is the change I seek and compared to the two ther candidates that I can choose he is the best one!
Pennsylvania Republicans 4 Obama!!

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James Hanna, Lawton, Ok — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:39:17 GMT

But Hillary Democrats, who LOVE their country, and who don't want it to fall into the hands of a self serving sell-out like "Pimp Daddy B.O." will never, ever under any circumsances vote for this shucking and jiving used car salesman.
Get ready First Read....for the shock of your life when Democrats like myself bolt the party and vote for McCain.
It's Hillary, or it's NOBODY.
Period.

J Merle Stanley,

Those are very strong words for a supporter of a candidate who shares 75 to 80% of the same positions as the person you are calling a pimpdaddy. In fact if you watched the debate last night you should have noticed that even when they disagree it is usually over small differences on the same approach. simply put if you choose a candidate who shares little to none of the same views as your canidate you are not only doing youself a disservice but your country as well. How PATRIOTIC IS THAT!

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Peg, PA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:16 GMT

To all Clinton supporters:

It is unbelievable you spend so much time finding any insignificant “dirt” about Obama’s past and try to negate his skills and god -given talents, but you are so indifferent to a major unethical record of John “I- am- -a- war- hero” McCain, which is a million times more important than anything you have brought against Obama. Just get over it, Obam is smarter, and has better political and organizational skills than Clintons.

Peg, PA

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Lenore Weber — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:32 GMT

There are more people who would never ever vote for a Clinton again than the select few who can't handle losing and will not vote for Obama.
Nothing can unify the Republican party like a Clinton can and now you, J Merle Stanley, can join them.
Good luck with a 70+ year old man who can't stop war mongerring. Way to get even for Obama winning!
You should grow up and put your party and country first instaed of getting even!

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RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:49:37 GMT

TO ALL THE VOTERS IN DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR McCAIN I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHY? DO YOU WANT THE WAR TO GO ON AND ON IN IRAQ.DO YOU NOT THINK WATER BOARDING IS TOUTURE.DO YOU WANT TO GIVE IMMUNITY TO THE TELECOMS IN THE FISA BILL. McCAIN VOTED AGAINST CALLING WATER BOARDING TORTURE AND FOR GIVING THE PHONE COMPANIES IMMUNITY LAST WEEK!DO YOU NOT LIKE THE BILL OF RIGHTS. WHAT KIND OF JUDGES DO YOU WANT SITTING ON SUPREME COURT?DO YOU THINK THE BUSH TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH ARE A GOOD THING?ARE YOU NOT CONCERNED IN THE LEAST BIT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS AND THE ECOMONY?IF YOU ANWSER NO TO ALL THESE THINGS THAN BY ALL MEANS GO VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN!

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:54:56 GMT

"...j I have to wonder why first read continues to post you’re ranting, you must know somebody there or something, for some reason you apparently think your opinion should matter, guess what? it don't, vote for mccain, nobody cares ..."
MK,MO (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:51 AM)

Guess what MK?
You and you're litte twerp ObaMANIAC friends are going to find out just how much my voice, and the voices of all Hillary's supporters matter come November 4th.
Obama will not win the general election, because real Democrats will not voie for him.
REAL Democrats don't want their country sold out by "Pimp Daddy B.O."

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:02:56 GMT

"...You should grow up and put your party and country first instaed of getting even! ..."
Lenore Weber (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 10:46 AM)

Lenore,
People like you are the ones who need to grow up and support your country.
You claim nobody would vote for Clinton, yet she carried NY and California and beat Obama in Mass. where he had the support of BOTH Kerry and The Drunken Murderer.
You would put a junior senator with absolutely NO foriegn diplomatic, or military-oversight experience whatsoever in the driver's seat of the world's largest nuclear power.
So, don't preach to me about supporting my country. You apparently know NOTHING about that particular subject.
Hillary is right, it's time to get real.
You can kiss my PATRIOTIC ass if you think I would put a shucking and jiving used car salesman like "Pimp Daddy B.O." in the White House.
PATRIOTIC Democrats who LOVE their country and don't want to see it sold out to terrorist thugs, and communists won't vote for Obama, you can bet your lungs on that.

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CitizenJ — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:06:42 GMT

Guess what MK?
You and you're litte twerp ObaMANIAC friends are going to find out just how much my voice, and the voices of all Hillary's supporters matter come November 4th.
Obama will not win the general election, because real Democrats will not voie for him.
REAL Democrats don't want their country sold out by "Pimp Daddy B.O."

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 10:54 AM)

Yeah. REAL Democrats don't vote for Democrats. They vote for Republicans!! Right J. Merle?

Haha.

Your logic is amusing.

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Patrck, Detroit, MI — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:10:12 GMT

Seriously, the front runner of the Democratic nomination is a pimp? Really, I don't know you but I know bigotry when I hear/read it.

Clinton and McCain are exempt from your brand of venom but Obama isn't. It's not based on policy that you make these statements it's prejudice. How sad and shallow is your rhetoric. Grow up. Hate the plan and not the man.

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John, MI — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:13:51 GMT

I love the fact that obama and clinton supports hate each other so much. Means a clear path to the white house for republicans!

Elephant 08!!

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J, OH — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:21:01 GMT

with absolutely NO foriegn diplomatic, or military-oversight experience whatsoever in the driver's seat of the world's largest nuclear power.
J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 11:02 AM)

So I guess you didn't vote for Bill Clinton then either? Yeah, thought so.

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Cathy Lyons, Bridgton, Mainecc — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:22:19 GMT

If Clinton can not run an effective, organized, cost-efficient campaign how on earth can she manage Universal Health Care, let alone THE COUNTRY? She's for change? She's the candidate of solutions? Yuh, sure! Sadly she sounds, reacts and behaves remarkably Bush-like; insistant that it's her way or no way, and refuses to see any or all of her short comings-SCARY!!!
Furthermore, her mean-mouthed, bullish supporters do nothing to help her and only make the poor woman appear more desperate and sad.
Submitted by a REAL Independent...for Obama!

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Larry T., Plano Texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:22:57 GMT

FR: [[Howard Wolfson, the communications director and a senior member of the advertising team, earned nearly $267,000 in January. His total, including the campaign’s debt to him, tops $730,000.]]

Well, yeah, that's a little pricey, but the guy is one of those night shift workers Hillary keeps talking about.

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Larry T., Plano Texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:22:59 GMT

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Donna, Charlottesville, VA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:24:23 GMT

To Citizen J and the other irrational hate filled individuals out there. I believe the only reason Hill Clinton stayed with Bill Clinton was because of her political aspirations. I also believe that Hill and Bill are both running for the Whitehouse to repair their legacy! Can you honestly tell me that there would be transparency in another Clinton Whitehouse? I don't think so. Sen. Clinton is so polarizing I can see the other side standing together to block anything she tried to do. She would run up against a brick wall at every turn.

But, step back a bit. If Hill became the nom. the Republicans would mobilize and I believe the Dems would lose the election. Sure electing a woman to the highest office would be wonderful, but Sen. Clinton is the wrong woman. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against her, I'm mostly against the establishment Hill and Bill are associated with. I'm mostly against the tactics they have used and their attitude that they will do anything to win.

Not to mention, their spending habits, how can they possibly know how to help lower income Americans when they have absolutely no fiscal responsibility themselves. I feel that the middle class would once again find themselves on the back burner for another 4-8 years as there would be a whole bunch of paybacks first.

Obama on the other had has god given talents which I believe will bring this Country together. He surrounded himself with expert advisors prior to his bid to win the nom. The manner in which he has managed his campaign gives me great confidence that he has the understanding and knowledge to bring our Country back into economic balance. However, I believe what sets Obama apart from the other two candidates is his ability to bring folks together. I agree with an earlier comment, can you just imagine how he’ll bring people together around the world?

I knew immediately after hearing his speech at the 2004 convention that this man was destined for great things.

My vote goes to Obama, a vote for a new day!

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Donna, Charlottesville, VA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:28:13 GMT

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Ivan, Washington, DC — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:33:07 GMT

Last night once again demonstrated the many faces of Hillary Clinton.

With Barack, he is the same person day in and day out. With Hillary Clinton, which is it?

It reminds me of the old game show "To Tell the Truth"...will the real Hillary Clinton please stand up.....or better yet, quit and go back to New York.

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nuanced — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:48:40 GMT

Peggy Noonan was the principal speechwriter for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. She also campaigned for George W. Bush. She is responsible for the phrases "kinder gentler nation", "thousand points of light" and "read my lips, no new taxes". Keep that in mind when considering her criticisms of Obama.

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CitizenJ — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:48:43 GMT

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mexed, san antonio, TX — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:51:23 GMT

-63 y.o.man, well educated- I support Hillary. She's tough, she's a fighter, she's not a knee-jerk liberal like I used to be. Obmana never voted on the war, he gave an opinion. He never had the mis-information that Hillary had and used to honestly come to a decision as must an elected official. Hillary has worked for years at issues to change the lives of the poor and the direction of the country. She has fought and lost and fought again. And, she has done it as a woman in times (that continue) when both men and women resented an intellegent and hard working woman who spoke out. I like her because of all this and especially because she is a fighter. She won't give up. It may seem impossible but I still hope she gets the nomination. She is the better prepared. Obama is my second choice. After that, there are, for me, no other choices. I can't conceive of voting for a Republican. McCain and his "Party" are void of ideas and plans that have any possibility of moving the USA ahead in a time when it is quickly slipping behind. GO DEMOCRATS

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Jake, Kansas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:52:23 GMT

J. Merle,

I'm having trouble understanding your logic here. I am a registered Democrat, yes, a real one. And I'm an Obama supporter. However, I made a conscious decision when I decided to finally go with Obama that if, for some reason, he didn't make it to the general election that I would support Hillary. That's because of their policies, not because of their party.

I cannot allow myself to vote for someone (McCain) that will continue to support the same failed policies that we've had to endure for the past seven years. And I hope that you, as a fellow Democrat, can see that as well.

Refusing to vote for someone simply because they are running against, and will possibly beat your candidate is both childish and irresponsible. And before you even make outlandish comments like voting for McCain simply because Hillary isn't the Dem candidate without taking into account his policies and future ramifications for this country and its people are inexcusable.

I take your comments about people who voted and support Obama as being stupid or somehow ill informed as an insult. And I'm sure that the other Obama supports will back me up on this.

If you don't like the fact that Hillary may not be the Democrat's nominee come November, go ahead and leave for the well worn pastures of the McCain campaign, but don't let the door hit you on the way out. And don't complain when McCain gets us into another 100 year war, the price of gas is $5 a gallon, your job is outsourced to India, and Donald Trump gets another tax cut after McCain's elected.

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Linds,Tampa — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:44 GMT

J Merle - miss your meds today?

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Greg R., Spokane, WA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:57:01 GMT

J. baby......you know whatg happens when you ASSume?

You sure speak for alot of people you don't know

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Pam OC,CA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:08:30 GMT

To J Merle: I am one of those "horrible" Independents that you so love to hate. Obama was not my first or second choice for the Democratic nomination, and either is Hillary, although I think they are both smart and capable. Your vitriol is...surprising. By all means, vote for Mr. McCain-another 100 years of Iraq at 12 Billion a month is perfect for someone with your sustained venom.
I'll just vote for the Democratic candidate, whomever that is, even if it is Hillary, because I believe that Democrats are the only party who has a snowballs chance of even beginning to turn around what the Republicans have wrought in the last 7 years. Your candidate will support Senator Obama if she has to and is showing much more grace than you, sir about it.

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Mr. Independant, CA, Fremont California — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:14:33 GMT

"with absolutely NO foriegn diplomatic, or military-oversight experience whatsoever in the driver's seat of the world's largest nuclear power."
J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY

Mr. J.(Ms. J?)
Check out Lugar-Obama legislation regarding non-proliferation.

He traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.

This is one example of his working accross party lines in co-sponsoring a bill. He got it through a republican congress and signed by a republican president.

This is an important example of foreign policy, national security, and bi-partisan politics.

J. I really think that you need to look at Mr. Obama's accomplishments. I am sure you can Google. You may also want to look at your use of the term "Pimp Daddy". This is certainly no way to unite the democrats. It sounds a bit racist, and it really doesn't make you sound credible.

The two candidates share many policy ideas in common, though they differ in some of their methods.

Are you really so bitter that you can't see that the Democrats do have similar goals? That the current administration and any continuation therof is bad for the country?

If you really want to vote Rebublican, they are welcome to you.

Mr. Independant, CA

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Pat Gagliardi, Westchester, NY — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:15:15 GMT

I have yet to have a blog posted by whoever is reading them. My thoughts are the same as most of my friends. We are white, women, highly educated and sick and tired of men telling us what is good for us. My comments have been reasoned and clear. I like Hillay and always have. What you see is what you get. However, as an ex oratory and depating champ (in high school no less) I feel that Mr. Barak talks the good talk but can he walk the walk. I am not willing to take a chance. Your high paid pundits (are there any women out there in NBC land?) are willing to risk America's future in order to keep a woman out of the White House. Fawning over Obama is really a nice way of putting it. I will spare you what I really think! And I'm sure this won't get posted either.

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Ladean — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:16:00 GMT

re: Show Me the Money. Of all data available on Senator Clinton those cited in this article clarify every reason she is not fit to govern. Fiscally she is a major liability and example of all that excessively wrong in Washington! The expenses itemized are way out of line. Justification of these excesses are horrific given the plight of the average American Homeowner.

How can anyone justify mismanagement of other peoples monies? This is prime illustration of what to expect when she is elected. Blind disregard for other peoples money, OUR money. Our priorities are roof over our families heads, food, utilities, transportation/gas/oil, child/elder care, medical expenses / premiums, bankrupcy, etc. We are all settling for what we can afford, and many of us are struggling just to make the next house payment, praying utlities will last, and blow our budgets on necessities. We do not have the luxury of living the High Roller Lifestyle while mouthing concern for the plight of America. To cite that her expenses were to make her "Look Presidential" is mocking the state of American economic distress.

Way to go Senator Hillary R. Clinton - there sure won't be any "government waste" with you at the helm. You definately won't be wasting our tax dollars / donations on lavish frivolities or personal comfort embellishments.

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Sarah Pellson, Montaro CA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:20:40 GMT

Chelsea must be pulling down some decent coin from Team Mom too. There's nothing like getting rich off the backs of your contributors.

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white_male_democrat — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:39:39 GMT

I have a new name for Obama - the Flim-flam man.

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jcw. — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:53:35 GMT

Good Lord, y'all!! Stop the madness. I am a Hillary supporter, but I am more concerned with the concerted effort of the GOP to game the open primary system by intentionally voting for Obama. Karl Rove (it bothers me to even type the name) has openly discussed it and I have followed links to right wing blogs that discuss the same thing. The reason the GOP is stacking the deck is to NOT have to face the most qualified canidate, Sen. Clinton, in November. They want to face the eloquent inexperience of Obama, knowing McCain will eat him up and spit him out. I am truly afraid that for all of the wonderful turn outs and fresh interest in the process, it will all be for naught and we will have 4 more years of opaque, warring, narrow minded policies.

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jcw. — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:04:33 GMT

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jcw., Atlanta, GA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:05:34 GMT

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Rosalie Cicogna — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:05:56 GMT

I am sick and tired of the media deciding who will be the next president. I do not support Hillary nor do I support Obama. I feel that neither is fit to lead this country. However, that being said, the talking heads should take a good hard and HONEST look at themselves and what they are feeding the general public. And shame on the New York Times for their Enquirer like reporting.

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Shtuey — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:14:05 GMT

Is Obama splitting hairs? No, he's lying. He has taken quite a bit more than $85,000 in lobbyist and pac money, but he's done an excellent job deceiving the American people. He violates the central premise of his campaign--that he is an agent of change that is not influenced by lobbyists and pacs--every single day of the campaign. This was well documented by the LA Times last year.

He took a combined $170,000 from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup while they had several issues pending in Washington. In 2006 they spent millions of dollars on their lobbying operations in Washington.

To read more about how Obama deceives you about where his money comes from read this:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/22/681/

Senator Obama owes his supporters an apology for lying to them about his campaign finances. McCain will clobber him on this issue alone.

Say what you want about Senator Clinton taking more money from lobbyists; at least she hasn't lied about it.

Change Senator Obama? You're just as dirty, if not more so, as everybody else, and it's about time America wised up about it.

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HP Boston — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:32:51 GMT

Obama is a shucking and jiving used car salesman.
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I implore all Patriotic Democrats to vote against the sale of our country to terrorists thugs, and communists by "Pimp Daddy B.O."
If Hillary isn't nominated, vote for McCain.
He may be a Republican.
But, he won't negotiate with terrorists, and he won't kiss any communist ass, like "Pimp Daddy B.O." will.
I am disgusted with the Democratic Party for allowing itself to be pimped and prostituted by independents and republicans.
If we don't get Hillary after the convention, then it's...

Democrats for McCain, 2008!
J. Merle Stanley Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:47 AM)

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I am with you J. Merle I rather have an experienced McCain than a empty suit BO.
We could get a crap ticket like OBAMA/PATRICK and sink into the muck! I am as angry as you and I have changed to an independent as the Dems are totally screwed up.
I am glad you are being posted as I am not. Shoot ya have to be for BO to get posted here. STINKS!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:33:38 GMT

While i was out on errands, I swung by the new Hillary Clinton headquarters here in Corpus Christi.....

Used to be an employment office, a dance studio, and a video place that sold X rated videos out the back.....

Perfect choice Clinton's....

There used to be a pizza place that sold some great pizza's about 15 years ago, but they have closed down.

But do not fret Clinton's.......

Pizza Hut is right around the corner in the same shopping center...

Domino's is right across Staples St.

And there is a Boat and Net fish place on the corner, as well as a Hub's hamburger joint.

So, all you Clinton supporters may have to kick in extra money to help feed these folks......

Too bad Bill is coming at 2130 tonight....
Hamilin Pharmacy has some of the best hamburgers in Corpus Christi......right on the other corner of the shopping center.

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HP Boston — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:38:16 GMT

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Janine Jagger, Charlottesville, VA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:59:37 GMT

Peggy Noonan makes a gratuitous comment on the "boilerplate prose" of Barack Obama. She is inviting an unfavorable comparison to herself. All we need do to assess Barack Obama's literary and intellectual gifts is to read his autobiography. Ms. Noonan might want to compare it to her own (anyone remember that she wrote one?)

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:48:47 GMT

Politico story = GUILT BY ASSOCIATION

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Jim , Mason City, IA — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:03:06 GMT

I love the fact that obama and clinton supports hate each other so much. Means a clear path to the white house for republicans!

Elephant 08!!

John, MI

John, I wouldn't assume too much from any of these post. Obama was my second choice in the Iowa caucuses, and Hillary was above only Kucinich and Gravel. after my choice did not continue after Iowa I went with Obama, my second choice. However I like most Democrats will vote for the Democratic nominee in November. I hope it is Obama, not because Hillary wouldn't make a fine President, she would, but because I know she can't win Iowa, and Obama can, and I fear that too many other swing states would go for McCain if the choice is Clinton versus McCain. The overwhelming number of Democrats will vote for the Democrat nominee. Obama may have a slight led as nominee in the Democratic vote, both either one will do fine. However if Obama is the nominee he will crush McCain with the Independent voters, and the candidate who wins the most independents will be the next President.

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Joey, Cedar Rapids — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:46:59 GMT

The New York Times piece regarding Clinton's donors being worried is interesting. Joe Trippi is right about the way Clinton spent her money. In Iowa it wasn't merely the volume of direct mail, most of which (from all candidates) went directly into the recycling bin. But at events they wasted so much money on needless set up costs. At the Hall of Fame dinner 2/3 of the tables were bought by the Clinton campaign, and 90% of those who sat at the Clinton tables were young out of state staff members, many flown in for the event. Obama did not attend the event. Those of us that did weren't impressed by Hillary's support among the youth, say what you will about Iowa Democratic party activist (the type who attends the dinner) we know the difference between grass roots supporters and "paid staff".

I laughed at learning about the cost of the "sandwich platters", this was a dumb move, far worse than buying shovels in case it snows (although some how I doubt her paid staff would have stooped to actually clearing many walk ways, if we had a measurable snow fall). When the state Democratic party first learned of Clinton's plan (without any prior discussions with leaders of the Iowa Democratic party)they initially banned all food and beverages at the caucuses. After some discussion, and presumably concerns regarding whether this would be a problem for diabetics, the Democratic party left the decision up to each individual county. The Linn county Democratic central committee (Iowa's second largest county) went forward with the ban, prohibiting any candidate from bringing in food and drink to the caucus sites. Having attended caucuses since 1980, at numerous precincts I've never seen or heard of a candidate providing food. Whether this helped Clinton get a few undecided, or those whose first choice was non-viable is unknown, but it certainly didn't help her at my precinct. Not only because her campaign ignored the directive and had a long table full of food "to share with all" , but it was viewed as an attempt to buy support, and given the lack of space at most caucus sites due to turn out(close to 100 over the buildings fire code capacity at my precinct), having a the table cause people to be even more cramped was not a good idea. Clinton came in third with 5 more supporters than Biden, and 3 less supporters than Edwards. However, Obama who spent a lot of money in Iowa, but not on stupid things (like renting a donkey with a Hillary sign for the Hawkeye Labor Councils Labor day picnic)had more than three times the number of supporters at my caucus.

Clinton's biggest waste of money still appears to be for Mark Penn, the guy has no clue. Hillary had no chance of winning Iowa, and the percent of caucus goers supporting her state wide was considerably less than the 29% of delegates she received (both Clinton and Edwards raked in "delegates" in rural counties, which are awarded a disproportionate number of delegates, and where as few as 5 supporters could get you a delegate, but they were crushed in all of the larger counties where increased turn out was highest, and each delegate represents 50 or more supporters). The best Clinton could ever hope for is support in the upper twenty percent.

For her campaign to not understand that she had no chance of winning Iowa was amazing.