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Dante — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:08:57 GMT

THAT HAS NO BASIS to me because Obama has never campaigned in Florida, let him campaign there for 1 week and then show me some results!!

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kevin,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:10:03 GMT

Exactly what I thought!!! All of the Hillary supporters like myself are going to vote for McCain. The media has pushed this obama on everyone and we will have a republican for 4 more years.. Cmon Texas and Ohio wake up smell the coffee.. OBAMA WILL NOT WIN!!!!!

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Jesse, Fallon NV — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:13:15 GMT

Texas & Florida may be the only big states McCan't carries in the general election. Versus Obama, he is looking at a national landslide disaster. Face it, no Repuke is going to win California, NY and the midwest big electoral states. I bet Obama beats McCan't 352-186 in the Novemeber elections.

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Ron, TX — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:13:30 GMT

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Lisa, New Britain, CT — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:15:05 GMT

Interesting on the "seating delegates" question...nice to know that Florida voters are as confused and frustrated as the rest of us!

But can someone refresh on why we're calling Florida a swing state? Seems like it been trending fairly RED to me over the past few years...

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brian wood, chicago IL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:15:12 GMT

The key will be turnout. With Dems' voting at up to 200% higher rates then in the past I am quite sure that Florida will go D this time. R's don't have as much room to improve turn-out.

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Crystal — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:16:25 GMT

Grasping at straws? I mean really to compare them in a state wherein Obama has never campaigned that is like predicting Hillary to win Ohio with the percentage she was polled at 1 year ago!!

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BL, Cincinnati OH — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:17:14 GMT

If McCain wasn't ahead in Florida, considering neither Obama or Clinton campaigned there, then that would be the story. But his lead isn't a story. Of course he would be ahead at this time.

Until either Obama or Clinton wins, and campaigns in Florida, any polls in a match up with McCain are worthless.

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YES WE CAN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:17:27 GMT

It really does NOT matter, the voters are going to write in Hillary, so it is a McCain/ Hillary battle.
We will write in Senator Clinton on the ballot. WHY? B/C we can!

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Donna, Fl. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:18:40 GMT

I live in Florida and I think our votes should count. I am one of those Democrats that would never vote for Obama and know not anyone voting for him. If Obama is the nominee McCain is going to get a Lot of Democrats vote. There is not enought teenie boppers, blacks, and a few white men to carry the day for Obama.

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John, Dallas — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:18:47 GMT

I would say that the numbers for the Democrats (especially Obama) are pretty good considering they have not campaign or run adds in Florida. This particular fact is quite important. If you look at the example of the Obama campaign, he always starts off down +10% in a state, but moves into contention once he starts campaigning and advertising in a particular area. I would believe that is pretty much the same for any candidate.

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Tom Bossier City, LA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:18:58 GMT

This is what you get when you do not heed the will of the people in Florida and you strip their delegates to your party's convention. I never have figured out why either party tries to protect Iowa and New Hampshire when those states have the smallest amount of diversity in the country. Hopefully, the Republicans will sweep Florida and Michigan in the elections to serve notice on this poor behavior by the Democratic National Committee.

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Felix, CO — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:20:35 GMT

Much less than this far in advance of,say, Super Tuesday, every poll showed that a Clinton/Giuliani match up was inevitable and McCain had no chance. If the pundits haven't learned to take these months in advance polls with a grain of salt, the public and the candidates certainly have. For one thing, Obama hasn't campaigned yet in Florida.

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Patty,sd,ca — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:20:58 GMT

The democrats stupidity is going to give Florida and Michigan to McCain.

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kevin,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:21:34 GMT

I am embarrassed to be a democrat. This media came after Hillary in every way shape and form. Hillary would have won by a landslide in November if the media would have gotten behind her. Instead we are now divided. We have a candidate that is not qualified to be President and won't.

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John son — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:23:08 GMT

Has Obama even campaigned in FL?? If not, doesn't it make this poll significantly scewed?

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E Heffron — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:23:26 GMT

I am not surprised by this match up pole in Florida. I am a Dem living in Mn. but if Obama gets the nomination over Clinton; I will vote for Mccain. In my book Obama is not ready to be President. There are alot of people like me out there.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:23:51 GMT

The states Obama is least likely to win in November are Utah, Kentucky, Arizona, Oklahoma, and Florida. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he wins the other forty-five.

The treatment of Florida as a top-tier swing state for Democrats is not only fighting the last war, but two wars ago; states like Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado will flip LONG before Florida for most any Democrat. In Obama's particular case, he has a better chance of winning states that would normally be impossible for a Democrat to win in than he does Florida, because he campaigned heavily and beat the turnout of the entire Republican primary in normally safe red states like Kansas, Idaho, North Dakota, Georgia, and Alabama (listed in increasing order of difficulty for him to win in November).

Consequently, even if he loses Florida, Obama can potentially beat McCain in a forty-five state landslide.

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kenn — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:26:20 GMT

To act as if MACAIN would send soldiers like himself off to die and abandon them whatever the history of the dems and repubs being misled by BUSH is against reason .HE WAS IN A NORTH VIETNAMESE PRISON CAMP he knows what its all about sacrifice .OBAMMA says he will attack PACKISTAN AFGANISTAN AND REENTER IRAQ all with out ever fighting in a war rather easy to talk the talk when never knowing the consequnces of your actions little man go to the back of the class and let a hero work things out.MACAIN will surely get dems votes as well as his share of disgusted dems OBAMMA will not get the repubs in the general they stick together look how they still support BUSH 63%

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BILL C. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:26:57 GMT

CLINTON WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:16 GMT

Of course Florida is going to vote Republican.
Democrats there, and in Michigan have been disenfranchised by their own party.

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Cartier, Dallas, Texas — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:34:27 GMT

The question is why are they doing a poll before the Democrats have picked a nominee? Of course Grandpa Mccain would win the poll.

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sozzi, mamaroneck, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:14 GMT

This Florida Poll does not look good for McCain. I thought with the backing of the Governor he should have a 20 pt. lead. He also campainged in Florida. With the power outage, if not rectified, the Governor will take a hit.

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Mira — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:36:56 GMT

Are 16 to 17 percent of Florida democrats just nuts? Why would they want to relive the past 7 years -- and get blamed for it besides?

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Allen A — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:37:33 GMT

24% of the Florida democrats want the delegates seated as is, 28% said they wanted a new primary or caucus and 15% say they should just follow the rules as is,

yes Sen. Clinton speaks for that 24% huh? I guess support those who agree with you, the other 76% just don't matter right?

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Ron, Greenville, SC — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:38:38 GMT

This will all change when Obama seats the delegates at the Convention after all this is wrapped up and the Dems can stop bickering about this nonsense. Hillary will have to be the one to mend fences in Florida after she bows out.

If she doesn't, she doesn't deserve to be part of the DNC.

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Stu Hyvonen, Saginaw, MI — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:38:47 GMT

Once Bush invaded Iraq and lied and lied and lied to the American peoople since--he's still doing it--I swore that I'd never again vote for a Republican for President (after having voted Johnson in 1964, Nixon in 1968 and 1972, Gerald Ford in 1976, Reagan in 1980 and 1984, Bush in 1988 and 1992, Dole in 1996, Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004).

Unfortunately, I'm probably going to break that oath if Obama gets the Democratic nomination.

There is no possible way I can vote for a balloon filled with hot air and no substance. McCain has substance; Clinton has substance; Obama has nothing but pretty rhetoric.

DAMN, i'LL TRULY HATE TO VOTE REPUBLICAN, BUT I SIMPLY CANNOT BRING MYSELF TO VOTE FOR AN EMPTY SHELL LIKE OBAMA!--THE MAN ABSOLUTELY HAS NO SUBSTANCE!!

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John, Morgan Hill, CA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:39:08 GMT

Polls about what might happen in November are about as interesting now as polls about what was going to happen in the nominating contests NINE months ago. Nine months ago Obama didn't have a prayer of winning his party's nomination and McCain was likewise a very, very long shot for his.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:39:54 GMT

"POLL: MCCAIN LOOKING GOOD IN FL"
--Hey, hey, hey FirstRead ...don't you think you're being kind of harsh on the comparative beauty of Floridians?

--Actually, McCain looks good everywhere, especially in the Republican mirror.

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Patty,sd,ca — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:44:32 GMT

Does that vote take into account the fact that Democratic voters have been turning out in 2 to 1 margins versus Republican voters?

I bet it doesn't... which makes it about as useful as a wet cowpie in the summer sun.
Ron, TX (Sent Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:13 PM)

*************************

Yes democrats have outnumbered Republicans. The question is are Florida & Michigan Democrats going to vote democrat come November?

Probably not.

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Fred C Dobbs Sierra Madre, CA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:45:46 GMT

John Lewis proves the Harry Truman adage: if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog!

With friends like John Lewis, Hillary Clinton doesn't need enemies!

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Nicholas Minnesota — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:45:55 GMT

Ron, TX:
--Do you think that the Democratic numbers might be low, because of the anomosity between the remaining two? Supporters of Obama claim they won't vote for Clinton and likewise? Or why with the turnout and American angst as is, are the poll numbers not demonstrating that? Any other ideas?
**Maybe the Democrats will actually show up and the Republicans won't--that wouldn't be reflected in these polls.

Those numbers are 6 months early and bunk. Merely a starting point.

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Lisa, New Britain, CT — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:46:05 GMT

I choose to believe that Florida voters can be as open-minded as the rest of us. As with elsewhere, Obama will make great gains there, as he's done everywhere else.

And Donna, what planet are you living on? Have you been ignoring all the facts that show that Obama is winning virtually every category of voters (and making great strides among the ones he's not winning outright).

Thanks for being close-minded and marginalizing a great candidate (sarcasm alert).

Like I said, I choose to believe MOST Floridians have the capability to be open-minded.

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Don, Dayton, OH — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:46:17 GMT

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Jack Glenn — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:46:45 GMT

Looks like the Obama retards continue to be in denial. Hope doesn't put food on the table.

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HILLARY FOR CHANGE!!! AR. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:46:47 GMT

BY ALL MEANS CLINTON SHOULD GET (ALL) THE VOTES IN FLORIDA. WHAT DID SHE DO WRONG? SHE WON!!!

OBAMA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO RAN AN AD, SHE DIDN'T.
SHE WON MORE VOTES, HE DIDN'T

ALL THE NAMES WERE ON THE BALLOT.
EVERYONE HAD THE SAME CHANCE SHE HAD.
SHE UPHELD THE PARTY RULES, NOT TO CAMPAIGN BEFORE THE PRIMARY. IT'S NOT HER FAULT IF THE PARTY RULES ARE STUPID.

WHY SHOULD SHE BE DEPRIVED OF HER VERY IMPORTANT VOTES? SHE DIDN'T FORCE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR HER.

I JUST WONDER WHAT OBAMA WOULD BE SAYING IF IT WAS REVERSED? I'LL BET HE WOULD WHINE!!!

LET FLORIDA COUNT THIS TIME.

LET'S GET HILLARY ELECTED
SHE HAS THE RIGHT EXPERIANCE FOR CHANGE

HILLORY -2008

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Alex, San Francisco, CA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:47:39 GMT

Dems screwed up once again. Hillary is stronger on the three most important swing states...FL, Ohio, Pennsylvania. McCain will be in the white house in 2009.

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TEC-Spring-TX. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:48:13 GMT

I think the below MSNBC headline say's it all when it comes to McCain the the Neo Republican Party.
"Born-again virgins claim to rewrite the past"

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christian — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:51:40 GMT

Kevin, fl (and all the rest of you HRC people)

The media got behind Obama because THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT BEHIND OBAMA. Where were you whiners a few weeks ago when HRC was the presumptive Dem candidate and was getting positive press?? Get over yourselves for godsakes

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Tired ofthe System, North Florida — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:55:07 GMT

You cannot judge anything by FL, I am a resident, bornin FL, and I am ashamed to have to say I'm from FL. Fl seems to be full of Republicans who should be democrats (they are so liberal) poll the true republicans and you will see McCain looses big time. As for the governor - what a joke! If McCain's helpers Guilini & Romeny had not been here we would see the real winner - Mike Huckabee. You want a republican that can beat Obama or Clinton - then you need Mike Huckabee. Thousands and more republicans haved vowed to NOT vote for McCain if he should be the nominee. The only ones that want McCain is the money hog lobbyist and washington's insiders, the media & democrat/independents that know Obama or Clinton will kill him in the General Election.
All this story is - is more push to push McCain out there cause they know he will not survive.

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L, TN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:56:43 GMT

If by some crule fate Hillary is not the nominee I will not vote for him. I will not vote for McCain, but I will write in Hillary. I know that would be throwing my vote away, but Hillary is the only one I can vote for and feel I have done the right thing. Please voters look at the past, your so called changers with no experience. Take this opportunity to help everyone and vote for Hillary.

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Shtuey — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:59:11 GMT

Allen A., let's have a new primary for the Democrats then. Oh wait, Obama alienated the thousands of retired Jews with his limp wristed "denouncing" of Louis Farrakhan. But the expatriate Cuban community will support Obama...oh wait, he alientated them when he announced that he would meet Raoul Castro. No way Obama wins in Florida. So...I guess you'd rather deny Floridians their franchise like the Bushes and the Supreme Court did in 2000.

That's "change" you can believe in.

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Francis Wilson, Brooklyn, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:59:45 GMT

This poll numbers in Florida showing McCain besting Obama and Clinton are premature and meaningless. So also are the ones showing Obama as the best Democratic Candidate to beat McCain in a match-up in November. A week in an election is huge not to mention nine months away. I still think that Clinton will be a better candidate againt McCain than Obama not withstanding his rhetorics that he will make the best argument against McCain for voting for the war in the first place. But the question will be rephrased then as who is the best person to manage the war NOW that we are already there to a successful conclusion. Democrats are like a football team that recovers the ball on the twenty yard line and with the way they are running their offence (with Obama as the quarterback), they will fumble the ball back to the opposition (republiCONs) who will most likely score a touchdown (with McCain) untouched. Democrats know how to lose an election. The best way to do so is to nominate Obama as our candidates. Democrats need to use their heads not their hearts when selecting a candidate. Hillary is a stronger candidate and the RepubliCONs know that.
Concerned Democrat in NY

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a of Illinois — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:07:36 GMT

Every voters vote should count. Just because a few people decided to move up the primary against DNC rules doesn't mean that a population that large shouldn't be heard. Obama has gotten 1 million supporters for his campaign whom I'm sure would be mad as hell if their votes weren't being heard but Florida had MILLIONS (that's a multiple of the 1 million) who went to vote in the primaries and deserve to have a say. Neither candidate campaigned but Obama did run advertisments there so if anyone had the advantage it should have been him. It's funny Obama's supporter say a win is a win except when it comes to Hillary winning. Just like spoiled brats.

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:09:37 GMT

Ha Ha Ha Ha....McCain leads in Florida! Of course he does....have you been out to eat lately down here? Everyone is his age!! Oh...and let's not forget -- Florida is a Red State. My Mom and I still fly the Blue Flag down here, but except for Broward and Palm Beach Counties, we are vastly outnumbered.

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RC Ocala FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:10:01 GMT

If Clinton who won Super Tuesday wins Ohio and Texas Tuesday, Obama will have lost, California, New York, New Jersey, Florida, Texas and Ohio, It will be sickening to see the media SPIN in favor of OBAMA.

Guess what, the media is composed of upper class men and women - surprise!!!!! Who does the media support?

Hillary has a big battle because the media hates her and no matter what she does they spin against her.

The media should be unemotional and merely report the facts and the news. Not spin everything to their emotional needs. Its sickening.

Hello Texas and Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont, we are depending on you to tell the media where to stick it. Please vote for the most experienced, well qualified candidate. Obama has no record of bringing people together. Hillary actually worked with Republicans in the Senate and has demonstrated non-partisanship. With Obama it is unproven rhetoric.
He has no foreign policy experience.

Did you see how he through out at the last debate how he is on the foreign policy committee - to through out experience. Then when Hillary said but you never did anything about Afganistan etc. he replied well I have been on the campaign trail since I got on that committee. How come the media does not point that out? Never mentioned.

He doesn't have foreign policy experience. He wants to meet with a brutal dictator Raul Castro. Can you imagine Obama meeting with Apartheid in South Africa or Hitler? Of Course Not. He is ignorant on foreign policy.

The media has not pointed out all of Obama's flipp flopps (like what he said about Palestine and what he is saying now) (what he said about NAFTA but what he is saying now) but when the general election comes he is going to be in a lot of trouble because the media hand holding will be over.

Not to mention that our democratic party is divided and fractured.

Its laughable to watch the media debate if it has been prejudiced and unfair to Hillary. The guilty people debate about their own guilt. What a joke.

If the people of Ohio and Texas and Vermont and Rhode Island do not vote Hillary in, I will be so depressed. That is not good for the democratic party, I assure you.

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Kyd70,SC — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:10:02 GMT

Yet another toss-up state in favor of McCain!
McCain in '08!
Yes you can-NOT have my money or dishonor my brothers in arms!

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Brennan Leggett, Amarillo Texas — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:12:11 GMT

I completely agree! Let Obama campaign there for a week or even 2 days! And lets see the results then! Im willing to bet he will be beating Sen. McCain by 50-40%. Oh and no matter how much certain people moan and groan Obama will be our next president. And if you dont believe me look at the national polls!

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Michael D. Hafer — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:13:42 GMT

Errr, Florida has got Republican in the last 2 general elections. Why is this poll a surprise? Too many conservative old people.

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Pauline, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:13:58 GMT

I will neither vote for McCain or Obama. I will write in my candidate. My prediction is that McCain will carry Ohio and Florida and the Democrats can't win without one of these.
The argument about who wins more states is irrelevant. The Republicans usually wins more states and the Democrats wins enough big states to get the electoral college votes.

After Ralph Nader siphons off about 20,000 votes in FL it will be over.

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:14:29 GMT

Donna and Kevin from Florida, may I ask why you'll never vote for Obama. He and Hillary have almost identical policy positions. I would even imagine a Clinton or an Obama administration looking ver similiar? What's the deal?

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Daniel, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:14:49 GMT

Three new polls were released from Texas today, two of which show a comfortable Obama lead: http://thecampaigndiaries.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-outraises-clinton-in-february.html

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Judith Biggin, Dubuque, Iowa — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:16:17 GMT

I agree with so many of the comments. Obama has not had an opportunity to campaign in Florida. What I find distressing is that 16-17% of the Florida Democrats will vote for McCain. Haven't they learned anything in the last seven years? Many of the Right do not like McCain, but they will vote for him over Obama and Hillary. Where is their loyalty and sportsmanship?

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Kenny M. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:17:20 GMT

One battleground state down, just a couple more to go. Then Obama can go back to doing what ever he does in the Senate.

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kevin,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:17:59 GMT

The next President is either Hillary or McCain... Obama will never win. There are many democrats like me who would never vote for him. Democrats need to stop being so stupid and stop doing what the media tells them to do. That is why we will lose in November if Obama is the nomination. How can people be a Hillary supporter one day and switch because of "momentum". Think for yourself democrats Think for the good of the party and good for the country. Hillary is good for the country Obama is not!!

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Michael D. Hafer — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:18:21 GMT

Hillary supporters that are saying they will switch to McCain in the General election if Obama is the nominee are pissing all over everything Senator Clinton stands for. Those who would be doing this out of spite are a detriment to the process and to our country - McCain stands for nothing Mrs Clinton advocates. And those who would do this because they feel Senator Obama has no qualifications have not been paying attention (he has a longer record of public service than Senator Clinton).

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MKD — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:18:36 GMT

I have been hearing threats like that posited by kevin,fl a lot, and I have to respond - because this is the kind of mind set that will have horrible implications for our country.

Any Hillary or Barack supporters who would vote for McCain out of spite because their candidate did not get the nomination better think long and hard about what that vote will mean.

Obama and Clinton have nearly identical positions on the issues. There is no logical reason to support Hillary if she get the nomination, but not Barack if He gets it or vice versa.

I was an Edwards supporter, and I thought about writing in Edwards on the ballot (which would essentially be a vote for McCain) if he did not get the nomination. Then I looked at the issues and implications of a McCain Presidency. Just one example, the next President will likely appoint two, and very concievably more Supreme Court Justices. If the court sees even ONE more conservative justice, it will impact the course of our country and its laws for generation. If you have any doubt about how profoundly the Supreme Court can impact the course of the country - look at the positive impact of the Warren Supreme Court (when Earl Warren was the Chief Justice) and how those decisions resonate today - nearly 40 years later...a Conservative / Corporate leaning Supreme Court is a scary prospect to say the least...and that is just ONE of the MANY reasons NOT to vote for McCain.

I now support Obama but I have complete confidence in the abilities of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Either would have an enormous task in front of them - and either would bring the change we so urgently need in this country after 8 years of Bush rule.

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Rochester, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:18:59 GMT

I have been saying all along that the Republicans and Right leaning Independents who are voting for Obama now, will be voting for McCain in the General election. We will lose this election again and I hope the media and people like Ed Shultz accept responsibility for what's going to happen. Obama has only won true Democrats votes in about 5-10 states. Hillary ususally wins true Democratic voters. This is the problem that Democrat primaries and caucuses allowing Republicans and Independents to vote and give us a nominee that most Democrats don't want. That is the issue that needs to be resolved for future elections.

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Judith Biggin, Dubuque, Iowa — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:20:55 GMT

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Jeff, Portland, OR — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:22:28 GMT

To all those people in Florida and Michigan who are angry over the primaries, don't be mad at the candidates or the national party. Be upset with your state democratic leaders who decided to move up your primary knowing the consequence would be "no delegates". This was made very clear at the beginning and party officials in the state and the candidates understood that.

Delegates shouldn't be awarded in states where no one campaigned. Hillary supporters wouldn't want them seated if Obama won them. Lets stick to the rules people or have a new primary.

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Vikki, Ft. Myers — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:22:41 GMT

Obama was running phone ads in FL. Hillary won FL. Hillary will be President.

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Concerned Readers of First Read — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:23:40 GMT

Domenico...is it possible for you to get re-assigned at NBC? Your articles here in First Read are completely non-sensical and inane. Once a week you seem to post something, usually midday, that is totally useless.

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sharon,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:43:45 GMT

Christian,
When was it that Hillary ever got positive press?
Your ignornace is showing...Drink some more Obama koolaid...You should be alright

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sharon,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:43:51 GMT

Christian,
When was it that Hillary ever got positive press?
Your ignornace is showing...Drink some more Obama koolaid...You should be alright

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Bryan, Winter Springs, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:44:43 GMT

Does it really matter? After the people in this country voted for Bush- TWICE. I have lost faith in the sensibility of this nation. I predict a GOP landslide. They could run Huckabee and win. This country is screwed.

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sharon,largo,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:49:11 GMT

I live in Florida and did hear Obama ads on the radio.
So whomever doesn't think he tried to act like the sanke in the grass that he is...is WRONG

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sharon,largo,fl — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:49:21 GMT

I live in Florida and did hear Obama ads on the radio.
So whomever doesn't think he tried to act like the sanke in the grass that he is...is WRONG

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mimi, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:51:39 GMT

None of the Dems campaigned here. Florida has gone red the last two elections, but that's not a sure thing. Remember, it took Bush and his buddy Katherine Harris to call the 2000 election. And check out the I-4 corridor: purple as we can get. Florida isn't a sure thing for either party.

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Hp Boston — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:52:58 GMT

I'm backing Hillary Clinton, but I, too, will vote for McCain if Obama wins the Dem nomination, even if Hillary asks us not to. This is a critical time in our nation's history, and I'm just not ready to hand things over to the new kid on the block.
Don, Dayton, OH (Sent Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:46 PM)

______________________________________________
Don, just write Hillary in on the ballot, that is your vote. It is a vote that gets counted! The exit poll answer is I VOTED FOR HILLARY!

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Hp Boston — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:53:07 GMT

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andre kaz — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:54:16 GMT

Only the unintelligent and arrogant,would vote for McCain instead Obama out of spite. God Bless America

Obama is the man look at the record.
Give me a break--

A debate is a battle of words--writing and taking notes are part of the process. As far as Hillary looking at Obama--she looks like a love-sick school girl admiring her hero (which is probably true but she won't admit it.) Alas, Obama deserves better than your sniviling ridicule, for he has been truly gallant in this whole campaign. Afterall, when someones name has been in the mud as much as Hillary's name has. . . well let's just say that he has been above all of Hillary's crap slinging.

Check out the record!

The following information gathered from the Library of Congress on the Legislative experience Junior Senator Hillary Clinton and Junior Senator Barack Obama. Please Feel free to check these records for yourself and draw your own conclusion.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term, which is 6 years and another year campaigning, has authored and passed 20 twenty pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. These bills can be found at (wwwhomas.loc.gov). Senator Clinton has passed.

(1) Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
(2) Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
(3) Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
(4) Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
(5) Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
(6) Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
(7) Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(8) Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(9) Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
(10) Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(11) Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(12) Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
(13) Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
(14) Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
(15) Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
(16) Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
(17) Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
(18) Assist landmine victims in other countries.
(19) Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
(20) Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

She has a nice list, but note that these are The Fact's straight from the Senate Record; Therefore, it is not made up.

Now, It is time to post Senator Obama's record from the Library of Congress.I have to mention that Senator Obama's list is too substantive, one is coalesced to categorize. Since its alot, remember you can go to the Library of Congress website, and check it out yourself, but I am just summarizing his first 8 months.

During Senator Obama's first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform,
125 bills on poverty and public assistance,
112 bills on crime fighting,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
(1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW,
(2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate,
(4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW,
(5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. Read the facts and not emotion.

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mark, st paul, mn — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:55:08 GMT

Primary turnout means nothing in the general election. ZERO NADA! Because 50% of likely Democrat voters turn out for primaries versus 15 or 20% of likely Republican voters means NOTHING. Republicans have historically participated in primaries at low rates because of the winner take all aspect of our caucuses and primaries. Nice try Dems; but you are NOMINATING a person that is unelectable...OBAMA!

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John, MA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:55:30 GMT

There may be enough washed up old vets still fighting vietnam who will put him over the top there

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Dave O Sinking Spring PA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:57:25 GMT

God help us if we have 4 years of McCain, Can you possibly phathom hearing this man talk for 4-8 years

I feel bad for Hillarty but its apparent the country REALLY wants change not more of the same

VOTE OBAMA

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Mark, VA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:02:43 GMT

No real surprise here. Florida is key for the next President to win. The only chance the Democrats have of winning Florida is Clinton. Florida would never go for Obama.

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Dan1967 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:05:15 GMT

I am a Democrat, and I am proud to be a Democrat. The Republicans are in for a rude awakening when Barack Obama beats McCain next November. These polls do not take in to account the record voter turnout for the Democrats. If you go to www.rasmussenreports.com you will see that Barack Obama has a 7% lead over Mcain in Colorado, he has a 12% lead over McCain in Nevada, and a 13% lead in New Hampshire. Barack Obama also leads by 15% in Minnesota, by 9% in Oregon, and by 10% in Pennsylvania. Remember that 2000 presidential election where our U.S. Supreme Court elected Bush with a 5 to 4 vote without even having a state mandated recount in Florida? The Democrats need to unite so that does not happen again. Let's stop this right wing and conservative crazyness of the Republican agenda by getting to the polls and VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IN NOVEMBER!

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John, Virginia — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:05:59 GMT

Once regular Americans and not the fringe worked up in the Democratic primaries see Obama for what he is - one of the most liberal Presidential candidates in history, the landslide will favor John McCain.

Obama = waving the white flag against Al Quaeda in Iraq.

Obama = higher taxes that will reduce investment, slow the economy, and put middle class Americans out of work.

Obama = inexperience and shortsightedness when dealing with foreign nations who want to act against American interests that will put Americans lives at risk.

Obama = socialized medicine that will increase the national debt at a rate never seen before, will create shortages of medical providers, and will reduce innovation and advancement in medical science.

Obama = welfare like social programs that will further prevent inner city minorities and rural citizens from breaking the shackles of government dependence and having the opportunity to prosper.

Obama is recycling failed liberal policies that favor big government over the power of freedom and liberty.

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L. Jackson Jacksonville, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:06:32 GMT

Obama will clear the skies, feed the hungry, rid us of all the gators and pythons.

Just wait, Florida!

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Scott Noto New York, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:11:03 GMT

I too will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Writing in Hillary negates the vote and can still give Obama the election so that is not an option. We cannot stand on principle any longer. We Hillary supporters must unite and stop this guy despite how the Democratic party will force Hillary to priase Obama at the convention. This is no longer in Hillary's hands. It is in our hands and we need to vote for McCain. I suspect at least 30% of Hillary supporters will cross party lines Nov 4th
and give McCain the election. There is no way in hell Obama with that crossover. This will be our way of sticking it to the media the way they stuck it our girl!

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Steve, South Carolina — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:11:42 GMT

"THAT HAS NO BASIS to me because Obama has never campaigned in Florida, let him campaign there for 1 week and then show me some results!!"

Actually, you're wrong. Obama hasn't campaigned much in Pennsylvania and he's not doing so poorly there. The point is that the demographics of Florida are dead wrong for Obama. The Cubans don't much care for him and the military vote is heavily leaned toward McCain. Then there's the Jews who Lieberman will rally for McCain and so on. I don't think Florida is going to be a good state for Obama.

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Heartlight 3, Maui, Hawaii — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:12:44 GMT

I would like to know from all of you Democrats who say you will vote to continue the outrageous policies of the last 7 years if your candidate is not the nominee, why you call yourself Democrats? Does it have anything to do with believing in co-operation rather than competition? Inclusion rather than exclusion? Helping the less fortunate have a better life rather than helping wealthy corporations get more profits? Preserving the principles of the Constitution rather eviscerating it? Restoring the rule of law rather than manipulating it or sidestepping it? With two candidates who have very similar agendas, you would choose to continue down the precarious road we are on, rather than vote for someone who is a strong proponent of Democratic Principles; I don't get it. Who are you people and what do you believe in?

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Peter — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:16:20 GMT

To all of you defending Obama and claiming that Obama never campaigned in Florida. So this is why he is the weakest link in this poll: Where do you think Florida is? in the midst of nowhere somewhere in the Pacific living in the stone age? You are insulting the intelligence and knowledge of the Floridians. So please find another reason to justify this poll.

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Eric James LImbird — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:20:16 GMT

It is absolutely idiotic for anyone to suggest they would vote for Mcain if they supported Hillary and Obama wins. It is painfully obvious that Hillary's comments about Obama have hurt the democrats. Wake up people the issues we care about are fought for by both Clinton and Obama. If we care about the war and the middle class casting a vote for Mcain because we supported the other democratic candidate that didn't win is silly. We have to be together. If you vote for Mcain because Hillary/Obama wins or loses then you don't care about the issues you care about the man or woman and you are giving the Republicans the race. Do the right thing. I support Obama and I have made the comment that if Obama looses then I will support Mcain, but that is stupid and I retract that. I will support the Democratic candidate because remember what's important;GETTING RID OF THE BUSH POLICY THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rich - Philadelphia — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:23:26 GMT

Florida has been treading Republican for a while, even Clinton didn't win it in 1992...

McCain will get demolished in CA, NY, IL, MA, (and a few others) whether it's Obama or Clinton....Obama would likely be stronger against that old man McCain in states like MO, NM, CO, & IO.....

Obama should absolutely trounce McCain, who basically offers a 3rd. Bush term...But some people vote Republican, even if its against their own self-intersts......

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Ismael, San Antonio, TX — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:23:45 GMT

Those of you that say that you will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination make me sick. Same goes to those of you who support Obama but will not vote for Clinton if she were to win the nomination. We have the best candidates and EITHER ONE tops McCain. He offers nothing but a continuation of the mess we've been in for 8 LONG YEARS.
Also, just because Hillary has more experience than Obama does not maker her a better candidate. Where was all of her experience when she voted for the Iraq war????? When the time came to stand up for what you truly believe in, she LET US DOWN! We need someone in the White House who will stand up to people when wrong is being done! That is what Barack did! NOT HILLARY. Hillary only stood up to Bush when it was Ok to....when people really started questioning the war...oh yeah, then all of her experience came back to help her. Get real people....get over your fears about Barack.....He's tough...He's got guts.....and he beats John McCain hands down!
Bottom line...we need to get behind our Democratic candidates and show some unity! Republicans are switching over to Barack...even some prominent people in the Republican community have endorsed him! Get fired up Democrats! We can do this, but we need to do this TOGETHER.

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Derek, NJ — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:24:34 GMT

If Obama wins the nomination:
New Jersey, New York, and California come into play for the Republicans. McCain has a shot in all three of those states if Clinton is not the nominee.

Obama can have Kansas. Congrats on turning a red state blue Barack. It will be hard to win without California though.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:26:30 GMT

''The hen is the wisest of all animals. For she does not cackle until after the egg is laid''

Abraham Lincoln[R-Ill]

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Drew Albuquerque, NM — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:27:03 GMT

The first job of a President is to keep us safe.
It has now been more than six years since September 11, 2001, and we still have not made defeating the people that attacked us our number one priority. We have diverted resources into a distraction in Iraq that became a quagmire. There will be endless debate about the "surge", but the surge is already drawing down as we speak. What comes next?

What is John McCain's plan for victory in Afghanistan, or does he just plan on fighting in Iraq while nuclear Pakistan slips away?

There are real threats in the world. McCain, Bush, and Clinton all chose not to confront the real threats, and instead to go poking snake holes to see if there were dragons inside.

I trust Obama to win in Afghanistan, to keep Pakistan on our side, and to let the Iraqi politicians know we won't be their bodyguards forever. More Americans have died in Iraq than on September 11, and our leaders chose that tragedy.

Moreover, I trust him to make the right decision next time, whether it's to read a memo title "Al Qaeda Determined to Strike" or to reject panicking and attacking the wrong country at the wrong time.

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Mitch Wright, Denver — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:27:15 GMT

I find it utterly amazing that so many Clinton supporters claim media bias as the reason for her faltering campaign. Nobody but Barack Obama convinced me that he deserves my support. Give us a little credit, eh?

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Lee in CA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:27:40 GMT

"Of course Florida is going to vote Republican.
Democrats there, and in Michigan have been disenfranchised by their own party. "

Funny thing about Florida - it goes republican no mattter what the vote, especially when they have an unindicted felon like Ratalleen Harris posing as Sec. of State.

I wouldn't count on the population of two states reacting in some sort of hissy fit, J.

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bill, okla — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:30:28 GMT

Why should Florida change and hold a fair election? In the end it's probably one of maybe three states John "Bomb Iran" McCan't will win.

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:30:51 GMT

For the following reasons this poll should not matter or be looked at: this is a silly poll since the neither the Democrat or Republican parties have officially chosen their nominee. The November election is still several month away. It doesn't mention any third party candidates such as Nader. We don't know if Ron Paul will run on the Libertarian ticket again. We haven't see either candidate campaign in any location in Florida recently either.

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Scott Noto New York, NY — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:31:48 GMT

TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS...WE NEED TO CREATE A MOVEMENT AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AS PROTEST TO THE SHAMELESS WAY THE MEDIA JACKED HILLARY.

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Mollie — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:33:03 GMT

Don't come around with this crap about the jews ! Obama just spoke to the Jewish people and they are backing him. As far as voting for McCain if you don't like Obama, you can tell that to the thousands of parents that will have their kids going off in a draft. I have 2 grandsons of draft age and I wouldn't vote for McCrazy if you paid me. My daughter worries every day what will become of her sons if this crazy Republican gets in. Something to think about. If you dont have kids that age, I imagine your saying, 'so what!" We just went through almost 8 years with these crazy people, what is wrong with you? I think most of you are racist and don't want to admit it.

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Connie, Tn. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:38:15 GMT

I am an "past middle aged" woman living in the South who supports Obama. I cannot believe the Democrats who say they will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. They apparently like the way things have been the past 8 years under Bush!!

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laura, Sammish,WA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:43:17 GMT

Domenico, You post one positive truthful article, and Obama supporters are upset.

The majority of comments above state what I have been sending in, but not posted.

If a Clinton supporter, votes for McCain in the event Obama is the candidate on the Dem. ticket, it is because they are voting with their conscience.
They have made an intellegent decision to support the best candidate for the presidency, based on experience, accomplishments, foreign policy work and
travel, and an entire adult lifetime (even as a teen helping register voters), showing passion and dedication to helping all Americans have a better life, honestly caring that every single American can have health care, save their homes and jobs. She has traveled to China to speak for woman's human rights, and traveled to more than 80 foreign countries. Domenico's article is only reporting polls, but I have family in Florida and in was raised in Michigan where I still have family. They
are justified to be outraged that they are being disenfranchised by their own party. IF WE ARE TO BE CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THAN WHAT ABOUT PRACTICING DEMOCRACY.

Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were on the ticket in Florida. Obama has been give equal and hyped coverage on major TV networks. Given the coverage has been consistantly negative about Hillary Clinton, the people in Florida still voted
overwhelmingly for her. CLINTON DID NOT CAMPAIGN THERE. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE PEOPLE IN FLORIDA DO NOT WATCH TV...THE SENIORS HAVE MORE TIME TO WATCH TV THAN COLLEDGE STUDENTS. AND BECAUSE IT WAS A PRIMARY, NOT A CAUCUS THEY COULD MAIL IN BALLOTS AND HAVE ALL DAY TO GET TO THE POLLING PLACES, UNLIKE THE CAUCUSES WHICH DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS OR THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. OBAMA GAINED MOMENTUM BECAUSE OF THE CAUCUS STATES. WASH. STATE ONLY ALLOTED DELEGATES FROM OUR CAUCUS VOTING, WHICH I ATTENDED AND EXPERIENCES FIRST-HAND HOW ILLEGALLY THEY WERE RUN.
NO PROOF OF IDENTY WAS REQUIRED. I COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANOTHER STATE, ANOTHER COUNTRY, A FELON, OR SIMPLY RAN OVER FROM THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS NEXT DOOR, AND VOTED IN THE DEMOCRAT CAUCUS. NO VERIFICATION HAS OR WILL BE MADE OF THE CAUCUS VOTES, YET OUR PRIMARY VOTES (WHILE NOT COUNTING EXCEPT FOR POPULAR VOTES) ARE SIX TIMES OR MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WILL OF THE VOTER IN THIS STATE. OVER 600,000 voters voted in the Primary
and the margin is about 5%, while it was 2 to 1 in the caucus. IF THESE FIGURES ALONE DON'T PROVE THAT THE CAUCUSES ARE MISHMASH, BACKROOM TYPE OF ELECTING A NOMINEE...I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES.
I can't even get the contact information of the convenor running the caucus I attended from the State Democratic Party to follow up on the irregularities I witnessed.

NOW, CHECK OUT HOW FOX NEWS IS FEATURING DICK MORRIS
AND KARL ROVE. THEY ARE HIRED BY FOX NEWS TO FINISH THE JOB OF TRASHING HILLARY CLINTON. WHEN THE REPUBLICANS GET OBAMA AS A NOMINEE, THEN THEY WILL BEGIN TO GO AFTER HIM WITH ALL THE STUFF THE MEDIA
HAS BEEN NEGLECTING TO QUESTION. IF DEMOCRATES THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS WHO CROSS-OVER AND VOTED TO GET OBAMA ON THE TICKET ARE GOING TO REMAIN LOYAL TO VOTING DEMOCRAT IN THE FALL, YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. WE ARE NOW GETTING AN IDEA OF HOW THE VOTERS IN FLORIDA ARE THINKING, SO WAKE UP.

MICHIGAN SHOULD BE THE ONLY STATE TO RE-DO THEIR PRIMARY SINCE OBAMA WAS NOT ON THE TICKET (HE USED POOR JUDGMENT TAKING HIS NAME OFF THE BALLOT).
BUT THEY ARE NOT A CAUCUS STATE, SO THEY MUST HOLD
ANOTHER PRIMARY. BOTH CANDIDATES CAN HAVE EQUAL CAMPAIGNING TIME IN MICHIGAN.

EVERY STATE MUST HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED, OR WE CAN NOT CALL OURSELVES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE REPUBLICANS MOVED UP THE DATES, NOT THE DEMOCRATS.
SO IF WE MADE UP STUPID RULES TO NOT COUNT TWO STATES VOTES, THAN WE CAN JUST CORRECT THE MISTAKE AND CHANGE THE RULES. ISN'T THIS ELECTION ALL ABOUT
CHANGE?

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Moley, IN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:43:39 GMT

Mollie: I have 2 grandsons of draft age and I wouldn't vote for McCrazy if you paid me.

Mollie, take a deep breath, let it out, and go watch The View, or Oprah, or reruns of Barack's speechs. That should help. Also, there is no draft.

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Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:45:05 GMT

So Obama is behind in a poll 8 months before the actual election. Well seeing how Obama has won many states where he was originally behind in the polls, I doubt that he is at all concerned. McCain is a one trick pony, he has no health care plan that I know of and has openly admitted that he is not qualified to fix the economy. In addition, the one issue he is supposedly "strong" on (Iraq) is an issue where the great majority of Americans disagree with him. Obama will win in such a landslide that the first Reagan win will pale in comparison.

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Ross, Vienna, VA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:45:24 GMT

This poll doesn't surprise me in the least. Florida is filled with people intent on perpetuating the status quo until they die and that is exactly what McCain offers. I supported McCain in 2000, but after he became GW's lapdog I lost all respect for him. Obviously, the Ice Queen is out of the running. Thank God! In fact, I think that Hillary Clinton and John McCain should date since he is so good at sleeping around and Hillary is so good at taking it on chin.
Now if only Obama could get his wife to shut up I might actually think about voting for him.

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Greeeat — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:46:11 GMT

Errr, Florida has got Republican in the last 2 general elections. Why is this poll a surprise? Too many conservative old people.

National health care will take of that problem. Be offing those old people when they are in their 60's.

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JW, Rhode Island — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:54:09 GMT

Does anyone remember 2000? Whoever the Democrats nominate has to be the candidate we support. Do you really want to live through 4 more years of a republican presidency? Can any of us afford it? Those of you with concerns about Obama please stop and think about how this country will survive another 4 years of a "Bush like" administration. This is a democracy and the candidate we want is not always going to win the nomination but you shouldn't abandon your values because of that. And there is a huge difference between the democrats and republicans.

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Laughing All the Way — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:59:15 GMT

Hey Scott Noto from New York: After Tuesday the movement Hillary will be having will be in the bathroom! Obama 08!

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WD NJ — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:04:10 GMT

Yawn...Please let the senator from Illinois campain first before reporting statistics. Those of you who would vote McCain or Hillary (McBillarys?) if Obama wins the nomination don't stand for much huh? What do these candidates have in common, please elaberate. It sounds pretty foolish to me, but why would I expect anything else, these are the same geniuses that voted Bush in TWICE!!! The dem nominee would share about 90 percent of the others stance on major issues.
Please pay attention this election we can't suffer through another 4 years due to foolish predjudices.

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Jason Langer — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:15:12 GMT

Mcain is 71 years old , suffering from skin CANCER and will not last one year let alone a term of presidency.

Why can't the republicans get a healthy ,able smart candidate like Romney( Harvard and Baine Consulting ) to go against a savvy guy like Obama ?

When Obama starts his national campaign with Kerry , Dodd et al , it will be a landslide against the republicans , specially when Bush runs out of cash to bribe the iraqi rebels to stop making trouble

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Jamie, Salt Lake, Utah — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:20:07 GMT

Go McCain!

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YES WE CAN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:21:06 GMT

TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS...WE NEED TO CREATE A MOVEMENT AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AS PROTEST TO THE SHAMELESS WAY THE MEDIA JACKED HILLARY.
Scott Noto New York, NY (Sent Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:31 PM)
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Not so fast Scotty, no need to do MCWAR. Write in Hilly Clinton, the ballot in Nnovember has a write in line use it!
Women for Hillary unite we are the majority.
Write in Senator Clinton for president.
WHY? B/C we CAN!

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YES WE CAN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:21:58 GMT

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Adlai, Winchester, CA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:24:18 GMT

I agree with Mollie, all these democrats that say they'll write in Hillary or vote McWar, I hope, are just licking their wounds right now. McWar said he doesn't know much about the economy. Historically the stock market does much better under a Democratic President. You can't afford not to vote for Obama.
Obama has the best chance at beating McWar, although I think any Democrat could beat any Republican at this point. The republican friends I have, either can't find a job, are working hard labor and not using their degrees, and/or lost their homes. Some of my fellow democrats might say that got their just rewards, but these are people I care about.

It's not experience, it's intelligence and good judgement. McWar was a poor student, poor pilot, and became a POW (that somehow made him a hero). This isn't substance, it's being a stupid person that didn't follow orders correctly. No more stupid people in the White House! Remember people, the grave you try to dig, will be the grave you lay in. You democrats that say you won't vote for the candidite that wins the primaries, I hope you're independently wealthy and don't need a job in the future.

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Felix, CO — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:33:07 GMT

What Hillary supporters are missing is how well Obama is doing, even in big states Clinton hopes to win, such as Ohio. Also, When it comes to the big BLUE states, Obama can win them in the general regardless of whether he or Hillary win them now. Any Dem can win the states Kerry and Gore both won so big deal. They aren't going to go Republican.

The band of Hillary supporters writing in to say that they will throw away their vote rather than vote for Obama are no doubt in a tiny minority as most Obama AND Clinton supporters would never vote in a way that allows a Republican to win the White House, if for no other reason than to save the Supreme Court.

One more Republican President and we will be stuck with an overwhelming majority of righties on that court, many quite young, for decades. They also can't possibly think that Obama will be worse on their issues than McCain. He's got a voting record hardly different than Hillary's and is not afraid to say he agrees with her on many issues.

If this isn't just a bunch of grumpy old Clintonites letting off steam or maybe some old white folks who can't get over their prejudices, than it's a bunch of people with mush for brains, like the ones who voted for Nader in 2000 because their was no difference between Bush and Gore.

As for McCain as an alternative for the Clinton crowd, McCain's main military experience, being a prisoner of war, makes him a hero but not a military expert. We knew more about what was going on in Vietnam (outside of the prison camps) from reading the papers than McCain could have known during those years, to be perfectly honest.

He admits not understanding economics and clearly is as confused about Iraq as Bush has always been. He also either lies a lot or has a very poor memory as not a day goes by that he doesn't have to retract some statement or other. Sounds like Bush on policy and either a step away from the early stage dementia that Reagan suffered with from before the end of his first term or as careless of the truth as any business as usual old pol.

That's you Hillary fans' candidate for change and leadership? What color is the sky on your home planet, anyway?

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Tim, Panhandle of Florida — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:45:19 GMT

I'm an independent and veteran I will vote for John McCain in November. But as an observer of the last democratic debate and watching the news in the morning on MSNBC
(please bring back Imus), it surely looks like they favor Barack Obama they wouldn't even let Clinton answer or defend any questions they seemed to always cut her off. Obama must bring them better ratings thats why Hollywood actors and TV personalities seem to support him. As a middle class worker and with a son in the Army who just returned from Iraq, I personally like the idea that John McCain has son's in the Marine Corps and Naval Academy. None of the other candidates served or have children who served this kind of disapoints me because I think most people are out of touch with whats really going on in the world unless it effects them on a personal level and the war does not with most people. It is a very low pecentage of our nation that serve and an even lower percentage that serve as infantry Marines or combat soldiers. Lets hear what the majority of these men think about the war, they are fighting it.
N orthwest Florida is very conservative and will go for McCain but who knows about South Florida.

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Patty,sd,ca — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:52:55 GMT

TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS...WE NEED TO CREATE A MOVEMENT AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AS PROTEST TO THE SHAMELESS WAY THE MEDIA JACKED HILLARY.
Scott Noto New York, NY (Sent Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:31 PM

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I hear you!!!! There are A LOT of people that feel the same way. Combined with the Nader factor.

Obama will never win a general Election.

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Jeannie — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:05:41 GMT

Well, that's news to me considering everyone I talk with says they aren't voting for a repub period whether it's a State election or a Federal election.

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derek — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:07:08 GMT

alot of you obama supports need to wake up about how different a general election is from the party primary's.... mcain wont lose flordia by 20+% lol

study past elections, while its debatable if this general may be a bit different, it wont be completely different, old rules of all the past general elections will ring true in this election as well, if the economy gets worse or world situations continue to flare mcain will gain alot of momentum in his favor, either way the RNC is going to push the message that obama is inexperienced and not prepared, they'll fear monger the subject enough to get and hold independent voters with mcains likability among independents, the state of events is only going to make obama winning that much harder, dems need to stop and think about how obama is going to look against someone like mcain and how that contrast will play to independent voters in the midst of so many complicated and serious issues, change/youth vote/unpopular president aren't new topics, look at 2004, saying one side or another will win right now dosent work, but you want your best person out there when the general fight starts

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:31:59 GMT

Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, New Mexico and MO will be the battleground states:

http://www.270towin.com/

Assuming IA and NH go to Obama and NM stays for McCain and understanding that 269-269 elects a republican president (and a VP elected by the senate) we have the following possibilities:

Obama needs
1)OH or PA + VA
2)PA+MO

OH+MO for Obama and VA+PA for McCain is 269-269...

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Richard, Daytona Beach, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:34:39 GMT

I LIVE IN FLORIDA - trust me when I tell you that only Hillary Clinton can take Florida in the general election. Obama will lose Florida - guaranteed and therefore, he will lose the presidency for the Dems. Obama will also lose Texas, Ohio, most of the Southern states and middle America because of the way the Electoral College is set-up.

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Richard, Daytona Beach, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:44:39 GMT

Both parties are energized and turnout will be as close to 100% as ever in the general. You have to look at the number of registered voters for each party in each state to determine if the GOP or the Dems will take that state. The battles will be in the states where both parties have almost equal numbers of registered voters in each party. Those Purple states have the demographics that favor Hillary Clinton and so does the electoral college. Obama can't win no matter how much hope there is.

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Jeff, Portland, OR — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:49:13 GMT

Tim, Panhandle of Florida...Thanks for you and your son's service. I respect your opinion but I find your reasoning, that his served in the military, to support John McCain a little disingenuous (if my assumption is true). I assume you supported/voted for Bush in 2004 over John Kerry a war veteran. How can any Republican now use military service as a reason to support McCain when many where throwing around false allegations at Kerry, a decorated War hero, in 2004?

And many of these same republicans rejected John McCain in 2000 in favor of the failed businesses man, average governor with no foreign policy experience, and only got to where he was in life because of his last name...George W Bush.

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Ole Olson, Minneapolis, MN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:59:47 GMT

The fact that Obama has trouble in Florida is to his credit. Winning Florida means having to kowtow to Rednecks, Israel-is-always-right retirees, and Gusanos (Cuban exile reactionaries who have dedicated themselves to undermining the democracy of their adopted country.)

Here in the rest of America, we'll embrace any candidate who tells those three groups to go ******* themselves.

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Alex — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:15:32 GMT

This how my vote breaks down:
McCain vs Clinton = Clinton
McCain vs Obama = McCain

I am a registerd Democrat and have always supported the Democratic party, but I can't in one instance this time. National security, foreign policy, and the Iraq war. I really think Obama is in over his head and doesn't have the knowledge and understanding to make the right decisions. Both McCain and Clinton have experience in these areas, McCain more so. I also feel that Obama is not the uniter he is claiming to be. He has no record of working across the aisle on anything that would have many differing views to have to work around (he only has the nuclear nonproliferation bill, which just about anyone can agree we don't want more countries becoming nuclear powers). McClain is well respected for the reason that he does work across the aisle frequently instead of holding the party line. Clinton has also worked across the aisle on issues that make real impact on people's lives, such as legislation for 9/11 victims and health care for National Guard soldiers. These two candidates have the record there. I also feel the fact that he took the "present" position on so many votes (generally always controversial issues that are quite polarizing) including being the only one on numerous times, shows a lack of conviction to me. He shouldn't be afraid to stand up and take a concrete position. I also don't like that on at least three occasions he says he "pushed the wrong button" on a vote. Yeah, oops. I also don't feel that he takes his responsibilities seriously and just uses each position as a major stepping stone on his path to a power grab. He attains one office and nearly immediately starts campaigning for the next higher office without putting in the time and effort in the current position he is on. It's like his chair seat on Foreign Relations committee. He hasn't convened a meeting. He said it was because he was busy campaigning for president and that he got the position about the same time he launched his campaign. That said, he acknowledges he was too busy. The responsible thing to do would be to resign that position so somebody else could run it.

I hope this can help explain why someone who is a Democrat can cross over and vote for a Republican. It is not out of spite. They are for well thought out reasons.

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LongTom Lexington MA — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:37:48 GMT

Unlike Clinton and other Dems, Obama actually GAINS support when he campaigns. Besides, who needs Florida when you've got Virginia and Ohio?

McCain doesn't know anything about the economy (he said so), he's promising another war, and he expects the US to be in Iraq for a hundred years. Every other day, he says something he has to take back or apologize for. He's a geezer and he's toast.

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Richard, Daytona Beach, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:42:03 GMT

The media keeps on shamelessly beating up Hillary. The bias is so obvious that the people who are voting for Obama just because he's either black or a man can see it; they just don't want to admit it. I'LL WRITE IN HILLARY OR VOTE FOR MCCAIN SO HE WINS FLORIDA!

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Richard Daytona Beach, FL — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:46:54 GMT

THE ANDRE KAZ POST IS A LIE. It's actually an email from Obama supporters asking for money. If you go to the USA Senate website, you will see that Hillary has written, sponsored and passed three times as much legislation as Obama. Obama has been in the senate for 3 years and two of those years have been campaigning so he barely votes, let alone sponsors legislation.

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Sharon Leigh, Cocoa, Florida — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:50:37 GMT

McCain will have Florida because we vote on the issues here in Florida, we don't subscribe to pipe dreams and empty promised that cold never be kept.

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marianne anderson, Bradenton, Fl — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:26:31 GMT

I'm really bugged by all those democrats here who say they'll vote for McCain if it's Obama. I'm a Hillary supporter, but how can in Democrat in good faith vote for the guy who mimicks Bush on the most crucial issues, Iraq and the economy? Do the country a favor and just stay home instead.

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Marbw — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:47:59 GMT

Barack Obama was written off(footnote) in his primary race in Illinois, he ended up winning with over 50% of the votes(against prominent well-establishment backed, well-financed Dems).

In his US senate race, Barack Obama carried every single demographic(urban/rural/upstate/downstate/black/white/rich/poor). with over 70% of the votes(more than even Kerry) in 2004. BTW, to all the race-baiters, Illinois had only 12% black population.

He was written off in this primary season, too.
In this primary season, we know he has won states with overwhelmingly white population. He won states with large black population. He lost CA by less than 10%/lost NH by 2-3 percent/came close in other losses(in the 40% range). He won Maine/CT/GA/VA/MD/WI etc, etc. BTW, he carried the white vote in CA/GA(white male vote). Every single contest day , so far, he has come out aheador even in pledged delegates. He currently has won more states/popular votes/pledged delegates/funds/crossover appeal/etc.
McCain offers Bush 3.0 policies. McCain offers over 100 more years in Iraq and bomb Iran. More of the same.

I have my issues with Hillary Clinton, but I will never cross over to McCain(scary).

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Sparky 51 Oysterville, WA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:36:32 GMT

Senator Obama would show up well in the state if he campaigned there, Democrats have won in Florida, as recently as Al Gore in 2000. Barack Obama is intelligent, capable, and will surround him self with a lot of smart and experienced people, including , possibly, Senator Clinton. And ,if you're a Democrat who would vote for McCain before Clinton or Obama, I have one question- If your house is on fire, but the wrong fire department shows up, would you rather it just burned down? A vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of Bush.

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Bernie Freeman, Brownsville, Oregon — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:10:20 GMT

Dem's are turning out in numbers at the moment because the Obama - Clinton campaign has been very exciting. However, historically, Dem's are not the most dedicated group of voters and if Polls are trending in McCain's favor, by a large number, many will stay at home...."why vote, it's over". Personally, I think the GE will be a nail biter and that you will see strong turn out by both parties with McCain winning. Obama is very exciting but when it comes to registering that vote, for real, with all the chaos we currently have in the world, I think people will want a more seasoned vet at the helm. Regardless, we haven't heard the last of Obama and his time will come.

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Phil D. — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:39:27 GMT

The judgement of florida is suspect anyhow as they voted Jeb Bush in twice, I live here and 25% of the population is senile. There is a state
rep. from Sarasota named Ron Reagan. He gets elected b/c the old folks think he is related to the former president. Welcome to Florida...pls turn your watch back 40 years.

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Tim, Florida — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:08:55 GMT

To Jeff in Portland you were wrong I voted for Kerry in 2004, and I also voted for Gore in 2000, for the same reasons they were both veterans. I wanted to vote for McCain in 2000 but did not get the chance because he was out by Florida. I understand how republicans can not justify that position but I'm an independent and will not join the democrats or republicans. I will vote for the person that is left for us to vote on that I think will do the best job. You see what we got with Bush, I respect his father but what he did in the military gave me an idea of how he would be as a leader. It comes down to a persons character when you follow an individual into battle or in life. Senator McCain has guts and courage I don't agree with him on everything but who in life do you agree with on everything.

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DPAshby, Tempe, AZ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:54:16 GMT

I support Obama.
Will vote for Hill if she 'wins'.
Any fool (Hillary's clan or Repubs pretending to be) who says they are a Democrat but will cry and take their toys home and vote for McInsane, when Obama wins, is truly just a robot Republican.

Obama and Hill are 5% apart. McInsane is on a flat planet with the sun going 'around' it.

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Karen NY NY — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:04:07 GMT

Obama lies and distorts, and the media turns a blind eye.

On Wednesday, CTV reported that a senior member of Barack Obama's campaign called the Canadian embassy within the last month saying that when Senator Obama talks about opting out of the free trade deal, the Canadian government shouldn't worry. The operative said it was just campaign rhetoric not to be taken seriously.

The Obama campaign told CTV late Thursday night that no message was passed to the Canadian government that suggests that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.

However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama's senior economic adviser — Austan Goolsbee — and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.

Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.

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Steve, South Carolina — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:29:16 GMT

The reason many people are shying from Obama is the simple fact that he can't be trusted to run the big job of the presidency. He's a celebrity, not a leader. It's all lights and camera with no action. Would you trust Oprah or George Clooney to be President? I wouldn't and I don't think most Americans would either and this is why a growing number of people don't trust Obama. He's a social experiment - not a leader.

I think that if the Dems really wanted to win this election, they would have nominated someone like former Virginia Governor Mark Warner, but they opted instead to recruit him for a US Senate seat. Will it be said in the end that they traded the White House for a Senate seat? Stay tuned but that's the way things are going.

Regardless of what polls say right now, I believe Hillary would be harder to beat in November than Obama because she's so much more tenacious and people know her, and even though they don't really like her, they at least know what they're getting. With Obama, all you hear is big airy talk and have no idea where he really is on things.

And Florida isn't the only southern state that shows McCain performing better against Obama than against Hillary. A MTSU poll for Tennessee came out showing McCain and Hillary in a dead heat but McCain thrashing Obama by 16 points. I can imagine that Arkansas will be quite similar (although I think Hillary would have a big lead there). Is Obama doing the GOP a favor? It would appear so.

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say no to CRACK — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:38:01 GMT

Hillary has been outspent by 2-1 margin and barack is barely in the lead. If Michigan and Florida had counted, then the roles would be reversed. Hillary cannot be held of much lionger.

Obama's ties to Farakhan and his wife's remarks will doom him.

The tide has turned in Clinton's favor.

Hillary R Clinton for presidnent!

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scott "say no to crack" Golden — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:42:26 GMT

84% of Floridians want theelection to count.

8% want a new election

8% didn't specify

Glory/Harris Poll - February 29th, 2008

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BELIEVE in ur candidate — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:18 GMT

I come from a family of straight ticket Democrats. I am in the middle and vote pre candidate.

I would vote for Hillary in Nov against McCain.

I would vote for McCain against obama.

Too muich has been reveled against obama and true colors are showing. He is an empty (hopeful of change) candidate. I like the guy's personality but there is little substance once the shine is gone. I cannot trust him.

I know where Hillary stands 100% of the time.

I know where McCain stands %85 of the time.

Barack flip flops on minor issues like campaign finance reform so I cannot place faith in him any longer.

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Only for Whiter Supporters! — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:52:46 GMT

I see this is an Hillary web site. None of our comments got through. Just how much people won't vote Obama because he is black. American won't ever change.

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Only for Whiter Supporters! — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:53:01 GMT

I see this is an Hillary web site. None of our comments got through. Just how much people won't vote Obama because he is black. American won't ever change.