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Rob, San Diego, CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:15:36 GMT

Hillary Clinton '08 campaign motto: "By Hook or By Crook".

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Gobama — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:16:01 GMT

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MAKES DIFFERENCE --- CLINTON IS DETERMINED TO TRY TO STEAL THE NOMINATION BY 'DIRTY TRICKS' AT THE CONVENTION.
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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:16:53 GMT

“They’re going to fail on that and fail miserably.”

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LOL. He sounds like the mafia.

how about Hillary makes them an offer they CAN'T refuse.

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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:17:45 GMT

“They’re going to fail on that and fail miserably.”

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LOL. He sounds like the mafia.

how about Hillary makes them an offer they CAN'T refuse.

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MarkD, Houston, Texas — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:18:45 GMT

This man Penn is a piece of work, really. Well I guess he's got to show something for the millions of dollars Clinton is paying, even if it is this transparent nonsense that assumes 99.9% of American voters are complete idiots

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Tim, Reading, PA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:19:02 GMT

First Read... Do Not Let Penn try to change the rules of the game now that the ball has been thrown.

By the way who decided to remove the armed guards the were keeping Penn locked up for the last week. It was nice not hearing the excess spinning

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BL my friends call me Hussein, Cincinnati OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:19:02 GMT

Mark Penn is delusional. Does he honestly think anyone will buy that line of garbage?

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Ron, TX — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:19:46 GMT

Is she serious? The Clinton campaign simply cannot be serious.

After winning 11 in a row, Obama has to win 4 more or he's the "loser"?!

Whatever they're drinking over there at the Clinton camp, that must be some STRONG Kool-Aid...

Obama's ahead by 150 pledged delegates. He's won 24 out of 35 primary contests to date. The Clinton campaign better stop worrying about how good Obama is going to do, and start worrying about what they need to do to convince America she's ready to be President.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:20:08 GMT

"In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same."
~Albert Einstein~

Barack Obama/Jim Webb 2008

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:20:55 GMT

Bill Clinton quotes:

1)Now, one of Clinton's laws of politics is this. If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.

2)The same old experience is not relevant. You can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience.

3)Big things are expected of us, and nothing big ever came of being small.

4)Success is not the measure of a man but a triumph over those who choose to hold him back.

5)When our memories outweigh our dreams, we have grown old

AND THEN:

6)It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is

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Marbw — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:21:04 GMT

A reporter asked whether Clinton should drop out after Ohio and Texas. Obama adviser Richard Danzig responded:

"I would encourage you on March 5 to call Sen. Clinton at 3 a.m. and ask that question." b smith

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Kim for Obama, Minnesota — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:11 GMT

Check this out from Huffington...
"Townsend said she expects Sen. Barack Obama to win the Democratic presidential nomination and that Clinton is finished. She believed that the Wisconsin results demonstrated that Clinton's coalition (voters over the age of 50 and those earning less than $50,000) had fallen apart. When asked why the Clinton campaign had failed, Ms. Townsend had plenty of opinions and she placed significant blame on Bill Clinton and his racially tinged statements in South Carolina. She also felt that Clinton made a tactical error in making "experience and inevitability" her central campaign themes. Townsend argued that Clinton had little more experience than Obama and far less than candidates such as Senators Dodd and Biden. Additionally, making the inevitability claim hurt her when she lost Iowa... Townsend then lamented Clinton's decision to go negative and question Obama's readiness. She said that she called the Clinton campaign and advised that they 'go out on a high note' but her advice was politely dismissed

Even Townsend states that the Hillary has no more experience that Barack!

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Billy — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:13 GMT

Are yoyu kidding me? If we use his logic then losing 25 states would mean that America is having second thoughts about Clinto (the initially presumed front runner). Why wasn't that mentioned in his memo?

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Randy E (sc) — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:19 GMT

Penn reminds me of Lou Holtz talking about the Akron Zips as if they're the Patriots - amazing suspension of disbelief.

Penn, the only question remaining about Obama is his choice for V.P.

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Marbw — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:25 GMT

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patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:10 GMT

Hey so did you hear that the Canadian goverment is throwing Obama under the bus.

He is SOOOO busted.

Obama is going down.

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patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:14 GMT

Hey so did you hear that the Canadian goverment is throwing Obama under the bus.

He is SOOOO busted.

Obama is going down.

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Frank, Missouri — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:17 GMT

How stupid does the Clinton campaign think the American Public is ??? They have really no respect for us.

Today's fear ad, the the-things-around distortions, the screams, the lies ... when will the gender card appear, the women-have-to-vote-for-this-poor-girl moment ?

I bet you, before Sunday we have another 'gender moment' !!

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patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:18 GMT

Hey so did you hear that the Canadian goverment is throwing Obama under the bus.

He is SOOOO busted.

Obama is going down.

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Vincent KC — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:24:45 GMT

I think the Clinton camp is looking for new work. This has to be a tryout for writting Saturday Night Live scripts. Face it you can only fool the people if you are not a bigger fool then them.

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Dante — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:26:00 GMT

Main Entry: un·der·state
Pronunciation: \ˌən-dər-ˈstāt\
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1824
1 : to represent as less than is the case <understate taxable income>
2 : to state or present with restraint especially for effect

"They’re going to fail on that and fail miserably"

That is what you call an understatement!!

Obama 08

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dl — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:26:18 GMT

oy... the message just changes and changes and changes... "we'll win this....no, no, they have to win this... no they have to win this...no this... No they put up so much and if they don't win by a huge margin... and what if a bomb goes off...or something threatens your children...aren't you afraid...shouldn't you be fearful?" ....ugh...or aaargh enough.

This is not about the voters...this is about spin...ugh.

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JJ, Dayton OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:26:32 GMT

Mr. Penn - Thank you for motivating Obama's grassroots!

Penn is at the helm of the Titanic . . . but does he know it?

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R Hussein B, Missoula, MT — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:26:45 GMT

I don't understand Penn's reasoning. Seems backwards to me, just like the way he has run the Clinton campaign. What he has said and done just doesn't make any rational sense!
The new Clinton excuse when they lose TX AND OH will be that they were at a disadvantage because Obama outspent them by so much there.

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Eliot, Los Angeles,CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:27:08 GMT

Hillary Clinton and her campaign should do everything they can to win this thing. I absolutely support the efforts by Penn and others to make certain that Senator Clinton gets this nomination. The country is in too big a mess to hand it over to the person with the least amount of experience. Obama would make a great VP but not the top of the ticket...his time in not now. If Americans really care about doing what is right they will vote for Hillary Clinton. There will be no learning curve and with her experience in the Senate and the White House she is truely qualified to be Commander in Chief...and yes...from day one. Vote for Real Change...Vote for the First Woman President...Vote for Senator Hilllary Clinton!

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mek — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:27:28 GMT

We need 11000 documents for 8 years in White House. Hillary must bring those documents out..........

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Wilson, Seattle — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:27:49 GMT

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Doesn't this guy have any shame? Sure its your job to help your candidate win, but what about your own personal credibility? That was so false and transparent it was border-line hilarious.

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Mary, Seattle — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:28:34 GMT

First Read do an artical on this (just posted and 9000 views and counting):

New moving video from Will.i.am: We Are the Ones!

(have a tissue handy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU

4 more days until Obama is our nominee!

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BL my friends call me Hussein, Cincinnati OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:29:04 GMT

The Clinton campaign better stop worrying about how good Obama is going to do, and start worrying about what they need to do to convince America she's ready to be President.
Ron, TX (Sent Friday, February 29, 2008 1:19 PM)

Be fair Ron, you are asking the impossible. ;)

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Pete "Hussein" - Albany, NY — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:29:36 GMT

Obama must win Texas and Ohio "decisively"?

Look, the Obama campaign is already in the lead but if you want them to pile on and run up the score so be it!

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Lisa, New Britain, CT — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:29:58 GMT

Groan.

Yes, I understand its spin but haven't MOST of us noted that the HRC campaign totally discounts ANYTHING that hasn't gone her way. We have heard about insignificant states (size-wise, now caucus versus primary-wise, red v. blue, blue collar versus not), and rules that should not be followed if they don't favor her.

This is the old-style politicking we rail against. She just doesn't get it yet.

HRC doesn't want to play by the rules.

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chuck, richmond, tx — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:31:20 GMT

If you want to talk about judgment -- Hillary's is questionable, at best, considering the fact that she hired this idiot, Mark Penn, to run her campaign. Is he delusional? He didn't know about the post-primary caucus in Texas, they didn't even fill their delegate slate in Pennsylvania, they weren't prepared for the caucuses or anything after February 5, and she wants us to believe that she can make the critical decisions as President?

BTW, as Penn should know (though he may not b/c he's a buffoon!), up until about 3 weeks ago, Clinton was ahead by double-digits in both TX and Ohio. The margin ranged from 17-21 just 2 1/2 weeks ago in Ohio. How do you blow a 20 pt lead in 3 weeks? Ask Mark Penn. Hillary did!

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dl — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:33:38 GMT

and "Patty" did you here that Hillarys campaign was reported by the same news outlet to have had the same conversation about NAFTA with the canadian government... but McCain only pays attention to Obama and pushed the story... ...and like Obama, Hillary has refuted it... Either believe and post both or neither...

You don't add to either campaign or the conversation when you don't know your facts.

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William Davis, Decatur, GA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:34:14 GMT

Penn ignores that Obama has come from 20% or more behind in Texas and Ohio. Penn ignores all the Caucuses wins by Obama. Penn ignores recent statements from the Clinton camp that Hillary had to win BOTH Texas and Ohio or loose the nomination. Total spin so flagrant it is insulting to think anyone would believe it. They must be desperate !

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Jesse "Hussein" T, Burnsville, MN — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:34:15 GMT

“Now one of Clinton’s laws of politics is this: If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think, if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.”
-Bill Clinton, 2004

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:34:45 GMT

Why does Mark Penn remind me of one of the villains from Captain Planet?

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Just asking from NY — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:35:02 GMT

Center for Responsive Politics has discovered that the candidate who gets their support tends to be the one who gave them the most money:
Total Clinton contributions to all superdelegates: $236,080
Total Obama contributions to all superdelegates: $710,926

Question: If Obama’s such a wondrous, moving, obvious choice, and all these superdelegates are defecting in swarms to him out of sheer enthrallment, is it simply nothing more than mere coincidence that Obama has “donated” MORE THAN 3 TIMES the money to said same superdelegates than Hillary Clinton (and having said that and paid that, still has received less than half of the committments from same superdelegates)?
Is it also only coincidence that many of the same superdelegates who just happen to be African American are now complaining of coercive tactics from - not the Clinton camp - but from the Obama people, using everything from threats to charges of being “Uncle Toms”?

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lupercal — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:35:05 GMT

ouch. the obama folks know how to zing.

Another 3 a.m. call

My colleague Carrie Budoff Brown e-mails from an Obama campaign conference call (big day for conference calls):

A reporter asked whether Clinton should drop out after Ohio and Texas. Obama adviser Richard Danzig responded:

"I would encourage you on March 5 to call Sen. Clinton at 3 a.m. and ask that question." via politico.com

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independent observer — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:35:50 GMT

Clever, snarky, relaxed... typical Obama fare.

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nuanced — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:36:20 GMT

Is is so sad because I have a lot of respect for Hillary. She could not have found a bigger a-hole than Mark Penn to run her campaign if she had asked Karl Rove to recommend someone.

I believe that it is more important that a president realizes what he or she doesn't know and gets the right advisors than be someone like George Bush who thinks he knows it all or gets delusional advice from inner voices.

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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:37:21 GMT

Obama will not win a general Election. Even if he spends a trillion dollars he will not win.

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MG, St. Louis, MO. — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:37:26 GMT

One need not look past the way the Clinton's campaign has been run to find the answer to how the Clinton's would perform a president.

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Jeremy, Portland Oregon — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:37:44 GMT

Mark Penn has become the Baghdad Bob of Election 2008.

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Alan, NJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:39:26 GMT

To Marbw

Obama opposes the war but won't vote against funding, and he opposed NAFTA from the start but won't commit to withdraw. That's leadership!

“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views,” Mr. Obama wrote in “The Audacity of Hope, his I’m-running-for-president book. “As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them.”

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John B, Springfield, MO — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:41:37 GMT

Hillary's been falling since--Do you believe illegal aliens should get driver's licenses . . . well, er, first I would vote yes and then later vote no . . . well, er, maybe vote no first and then yes . . . well, er, I cannot state an opinion until my focus groups tell me what it is but, in general, I will be for it in States that that helps me and against it in States where that helps me. GOODBYE HILLARY

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JDB, Anytown Ahywhere — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:42:03 GMT

If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."

Guess who said that?

Answer: Bill Clinton-2004

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/25/pzn.01.html

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MGT — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:42:15 GMT

Maybe Penn is really that Iraqi information minister we all came to know during the invasion!

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John Doe — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:43:08 GMT

Obama campaign calls Canada and assures them, his comments on Nafta just campaign talk.

Obama, just another lying politician

Obama, Politics as usual

Obama: All black racist church, Rezco slum lord deals and contributions, Ayrers the terrorist who bombed the pentegon, Farrakhan leader of Nation of Islam who hates all Jews and whites. Racist pastor Wright.

It's Feb 29, 2008 and still no answers.......

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nuanced — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:43:17 GMT

"New moving video from Will.i.am: We Are the Ones!"
-- Mary, Seattle

Thanks Mary, makes me feel young again.

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John Doe — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:43:35 GMT

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:44:10 GMT

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Rick Hussein,Ky — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:44:51 GMT

Heck if i was being paid 2 million a month to work on a Losing campaign, i'd be Bull S-it-ing my way into march, april , may, june, july & august.That's 12 million more for me!!!!! Not bad $$$$$$$ if you can get it.

Here's one for You, Patty

Rah, rah, rah,
Shish Boom Bah,
Here's My panties,
Here's my Bra,

I'm working the Night shift.

Patty(SD)

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:45:47 GMT

One can only wonder when the Clinton Campaign will begin jumping up and down yelling "Do Over! Do Over!"
Oh..dang..they already are on Michigan and Florida.
Does not play well with others.

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Nnamdi, Atlanta GA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:45:57 GMT

Wats the fuss about: have you not heard of the clitonian doctrine and machine? What's more: if Obama was in Clinton's shoes... this game called primary would have been sooooo over! However, its Obama the next best Democratic Politicain in the horizon. PS I love First Read....

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SD, CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:46:05 GMT

Sounds like a press release written by Carl Rove - Maybe if Clinton says this enough, people will actually believe it is true..."Catipult the Propiganda!" Scary.

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:46:57 GMT

The Super delegates will decide after the Primary

They will move to Obama and end the process
The Super Delegates will support Barack Obama
Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Bill richardson.....
They'll ALL support Barack Obama

Barack Obama is 'INEVITABLE'

Barack Obama will be your next President

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Eliot, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:48:03 GMT

To Frank: "How stupid does the Clinton campaign think the American Public is???"
Considering The American People voted in Bush the SECOND time...that should answer your question.

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Bob G., Albq. NM — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:50:32 GMT

The campaign goal for Clinton is to keep Obama from the 2,025 and use their dirty tricks at the convention which is plausible since Florida and Michigan "will not be seated."

The spin today is to keep Hillary in the race under the worst possible conditions from March 4.

They are interested in the Clinton "legacy" and NOTHING else

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Shannon S — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:52:50 GMT

So who is this Mark Penn guy? Hillary's Dick Cheney?! "Don't worry with the right spin, repeated over and over, we CAN alter reality?"

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for all of Hillary's supporters who must be starting to wonder about her choices for management of her campaign. I mean they had every legitimate reason to support her, but this has got to be an embarrassment even to many of them.

I think even Bill must be cringing. Even though I'm an Obama supporter, I can hardly stand it because I really believed in so much of what the Clintons had accomplished and the future they still might have had, but I'm starting to wonder if this is beginning of the end of all of it.

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Tim, MI — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:54:16 GMT

Ah the world of spin. Penn is just trying to keep pressure away from the campaign that is floundering. Yeah Obama has to win all 4 or he's done. If someone buys that they are stupid. Obama has one 11 in a row so sorry I think it's the other way around. Obama probably win Vermont, Clinton will probably get RI and the two biggies they are too close to call. With all this talk about a lawsuit I will laugh if he wins both Ohio and Texas. I've been saying it all day. If she does that she will kill the party.

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:54:44 GMT

We should make sure the rest of the voters are well informed as to the positions, among other things, that each candidate has. There are some questions that people should look at: Are the documents that Clinton hasn't release (including tax returns) really that important? Are the connections that Obama has to the minister of his church and to Farrakan really strong? These are just some of the ideas that people might consider.

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Rick, NC — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:55:49 GMT

I'd say the 2.3 million mark penn is getting each month is buying him some really good drugs...its all over but the concession speech for clinton

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Farandnear — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:56:06 GMT

Do Obama supporters work or do they just sit at their
computers all day posting to every news site there is? Or do they do all their emailing when they're supposed to be working? (I'm home with the flu, so don't even start with me!)

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Stevie d, Northbrook, IL — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:56:57 GMT

So if, as the would be "first Laddie" states, she must win Texas and Ohio, then why is she not out spending, out campagining Obama in these states..? Just a couple 2 or 3 weeks ago she had double digit leads and was already putting all of her eggs in these baskets... knowing the do or die nature of these contest it is inconceivable that she or her handlers would allow themselves to be outspent or have less staff working these states...just like Penn,it makes no sense.

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Cat, Houston, TX — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:57:09 GMT

Penn basically says Obama is winning because he worked harder. Since when is not working as hard an acceptable or good excuse for losing. How stupid.

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Keith D., Wayne, NJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:58:09 GMT

Mark Penn kind of sounds like the Ministry of Defense in Baghdad when the US was bombing Saddam Hussein, and yet he was telling the people of his country Iraq qas winning the war.

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Margaret, NYC — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:59:16 GMT

Obama is a con and will say and do anything to win!

Nothing on MSNBC about Obama advisor calling the Canadian government!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/more-on-that-ca.html?cid=105238322

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Publius McPeters, Pittsburgh, PA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:59:20 GMT

That sounds just like Mark Penn, (or Bill Clinton,) talking... Grasping for any possible positive spin on this Tuesday's inevitable defeat for his candidacy, he is left grasping for straws... Oh, how the mighty have fallen & continue to fall... Thank G-d this contest will be over before it gets here to PA where, although I don't believe Hillary will win, Ed Rendell will fix it so she does!

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OREGON — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:00:29 GMT

Ever notice how Senator Clinton always looks bug-eyed when she is trying to make her point with those in attendance?

Is that what we want a leader to look like?

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Shannon S — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:02:48 GMT

so what you are saying:

'Eliot, Los Angeles,CA (Sent Friday, February 29, 2008 1:27 PM)'

Is that it's okay to be exactly like the Bush Administration as long as it's a Democrat in the White House? Almost all of us are tired of those tactics - so tired in fact, that it is NOT okay for ''one of ours' to engage in them on their way to the Presidency. If these are Hillary's tactics, she would definitely not be much of an improvement on George W. Bush, et al. I'll take my chances with Obama, thank you.

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William Davis, Decatur, GA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:04:45 GMT

I simply must add a quote from Peyman on this. Its to witty not to share:

Isn't she and her campaign staff starting to sound like the honorable Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, Saddam Hussein's Information minister during the ill-fated invasion in March 2003 where he would stand alone in front of a camera and declare that the Iraqi troops are defeating the American army while there were literally bullets flying around behind him in the background? I think the parallels are astounding.

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kamenwati, Louisville, KY — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:05:41 GMT

John Doe: poster boy for bigotry and ignorance. Oh, and I forgot--LIAR.

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Ron Hussein Allen — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:05:58 GMT

Whatever the cocky Penn thinks, only a smart and sensible person will recognize his real intent. The Clinton campaign will say and deploy any tactics to win, whether litigation or all-out ad attacks enitrely loaded with lies because there is little other negatives they can think that have truth to them. They also utilize fear monging as if America is a gullible and overly fearful nation despite its superpower status.
I think that the primary reason why Hillary won the primmaries but hardly the cacuses is because of ehr name -- name recognition on the ballot serves as a turn on. But when a group of individuals compete for their candidate and truthfully exchange facts about each candidate, people overcome their prejudice over Obama's name and go over the facts. When voting to choose between Hillary and Obama, Democrats are much more familiar with Hillary, but they don't have anyone to give them their take on the respective candidates since what they get is TV/radio ads and mailers that are misleading or outright false for average voters to make a meaningful decision.

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Dave Stir — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:06:33 GMT

I want to comment more often, but find "Ron in TX" voices my opinions almost verbatim. Nice to here my echo coming from my voice here in the bay area Ron !

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Paul of Winston-Salem, NC — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:08:24 GMT

I am sick and tired of Penn, Billary, Wild Bill and the rest complaining about this and that. They have simply failed to make an effective case for Billary's election. This talk of litigation makes them look small, very small. I suspect if the vote was going the other way, they would singing high praise for the process.

This isn't the old days, when the Party Bosses met behind closed doors. The nomination process in each state has been in place and there was amply time for the leaders to deal with any concerns. If the Billary's knew there problems in some states, months ago, and didn't call for them to be fixed - SHAME ON THEM!

If they didn't know months ago - SHAME ON THEM!

They just need to campaign and shut up about anything else.

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TEXAN — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:09:09 GMT

OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST JOKE......
HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE TO LEAD A SUPERPOWER....
GEORGE BUSH IS RIGHT:YOU DON'T TALK TO THE ENEMIES WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.....
I'M AN INDEPENDENT VOTER,AND I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.

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Rusty, OKC OK — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:11:37 GMT

MSNBC, quit jus quoting the foolish Zogby post that got it so wrong in California. Your bias is showing again. MSNBC, quit drinking the kool-aid. It's pretty sad that both CNN and Fox are laughing at how biased you are. Your credibility is going down the drain.

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Stan McCauley, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:12:19 GMT

I wonder how many in the Clinton camp are spending time with CareerBuilder and Monster minimized on their computer screens these days...better get those resumes tuned up, Clintonites. The bell tolls for thee come next Wednesday morning.

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Bee — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:12:52 GMT

Fear mongering tactics from Goldwater girl. Here you go folks. I'll take Bill Clinton's word at a phase value.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGW38Zy4bJo

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Phred, NH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:13:57 GMT

Let the good folks in Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island & Vermont have their say on Tuesday. Doesn't matter who you vote for, matters that you vote!!

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Zachary Drummer, Boston, MA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:14:08 GMT

Mark Penn. What a class act. You know he is doing a horrible job when bigtime Hillary aid, Harold Ickes (he said he'd be backing Obama if she wasn't running), has openly critisized Mark Penn's strategies. At least some people in Hillary's camp have class.

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Bil Jergens, PA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:14:42 GMT

What you guys don't understand is that if Obama can't win these states with all the money he's putting into it, how do you think he'll do in the general election against McCain when he has little foreign policy experience, little national security experience, and the only thing he keeps saying was that he voted against the war. That line is going to run dry soon, especially after all the excitement of him and the democratic primary. And don't forget. Although he has won a lot of votes, the majority of th DEMOCRATIC votes is won by Hillary. Republicans are voting for Obama in the primaries because they know he'll be an easier opponent against McCain. Sort of like a last round of CBS Survivor. Vote off your biggest opponent so you have an easier time with the weaker one. The GOP is gaming the system, and everyone is falling for it.

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Opa2 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:19:20 GMT

You can spin this any way you want but Bill Clinton is right. Hillary will need to win the next two "biggies" Texas and Ohio. If she can not do so she is finished. She is being outspent three to one in both states but that does not mean anything. The public will not remember how much money was spent to beat her, only that she got beat. If she can pull it off, she remains firmly in contention and puts a stop to Obama's run. If she can not, it's time for a graceful exit.

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T Money — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:20:00 GMT

You can check the Washington Post for a list of superdelegate names in your state and others. Contact them and express your opinions. Lets end this thing!

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Nancy Roberts, Corsicana, Texas — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:20:46 GMT

Who is Patty, Sad, Caca? She is SOOOOOOOO busted.

Dredbear in Texas

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HP Boston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:22:07 GMT

If she does that she will kill the party.
Tim, MI (Sent Friday, February 29, 2008 1:54 PM)

-------------------Oh Tim the party is over, way over. Are you deaf, dumb and blind? We are now totally fractured , split, broken. Barry has appeared OT of nowhere, the repukes have been demonizing not just Hilary but Bill as well as if He were running it has been at min a year of this. We are now going to give it to the repukes. But I will vote for Hillary on my November ballot if she is not the Nominee B/C I Can. I can write her name on my ballot and negate all other candidates. I will rebel on party and media and not be robbed of my vote! My vote for my choice not the Media's choice. OR any Kennedy's choice! NO OMAMA! NO MCWAR!

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Elliott, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:22:32 GMT

Shannon S:
By voting for Obama you are indeed taking a chance. You are taking a chance the Republican politician will "go along to get along". You are taking a chance that these people are suddenly going to start playing fair and realize that everyone is tired of these tactics so they are going to turn over a new leaf. You are taking a chance that Obama can be a "uniter and not a divider". You are taking a chance....without question.

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Greg R., Spokane, WA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:23:20 GMT

When did the mental institution in San Diego that patty is in get computers, yesterday?

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Mark Thieme — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:24:14 GMT

On March 5, at 3 am wherever you are, Hillary Rodham Clinton will be nowhere near a phone. Just try and call her.

She will be so xanaxed, they'll have to wake her with electroshock for breakfast.

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Al, KS — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:26:04 GMT

Funny, I don't remember Obama making OH and TX his firewall. I do seem to remember Hillary saying wait for TX and OH. Maybe now it's wait for PA, or don't forget FL and MI, or wait for Puerto Rico...whatever. I wonder if PR is the final Clinton firewall? If she does indeed lose in OH or TX or both, she must drop out. Hillary and Bill and Wolfson and Penn set the bar. They are the ones that have to live up to expectations.

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Dame D — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:27:03 GMT

To Patty, sd, ca

You obviously have a case of Bush-itis. Ignoring the facts and the truth of a situation to espouse (I'm sure you don't know what that word means so here is a primer: support, promote, advocate) imaginary tales. Get your facts right before you post an attack. Obama's campaign AND the Canadian government denied the NAFTA story as being untrue. You would think you would have had your fill of 7 years unsophisticated and unintelligent presidential leadership. Your arrogance exposes your ignorance.

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squintz, philly, pa — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:27:13 GMT

Patty, are you too dumb to type out original posts on each thread?

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nadeem — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:28:45 GMT

A few thoughts:

1st - if Canada is mad at Obama over NAFTA, that is good for the US. Canada knows that Clinton loves Canada and will never push hard for new deal.

2nd - Every day that goes by McCain is raising money for the general while the dems continue to fight each other. The sooner this campaign ends the better. Start figting the republicans and stop fighting each other. It is time to rally behind one candidate.

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Antonio Rodriguez — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:29:30 GMT

Clinton and Obama have no real views. They just pander to the polls. Vote "no" to politics as usual.

Vote for real change in '08

Nader/Gonzalez

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Dan Conley — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:29:48 GMT

When you elect a Presidential candidate, you also elect his or her team to work in the West Wing and run the country. Anyone out there really want Mark Penn sitting near a White House phone, flashing or not?

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Leslie,Philadephia,PA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:17 GMT

WOW!!!!! As a woman with children,i found it deplorable that Hillary would play the Bush/Cheney fear card. Enough, i denounce and reject this type of campaigning!!!!! I was undecided, but that commercial really made up my mind. Change we can believe in.

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Robin — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:26 GMT

The last thing we need in this nation is another President in denial, who tells us black is white and down is up. We've had 7 years of that and the results have been bitter. Hillary cannot manage her campaign financially, she's gone Rovian in her tactics, calls us insignificant if we don't agree with her, and now thinks we're stupid enough to believe that her 11 straight losses and being down in the polls are not a negative. More Clintonian insults directed at the American public. I would have supported her nomination had she beat Obama in the popular vote. Not after all this.

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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:31 GMT

Hey guys thank you for all the love.

Obama will not win a General Election even if he spent a trillion dollars.

isn't this fun.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:33 GMT

For a statistician, Penn doesn't seem to have a good grasp on numbers.

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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:35 GMT

Hey guys thank you for all the love.

Obama will not win a General Election even if he spent a trillion dollars.

isn't this fun.

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Patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:48 GMT

Hey guys thank you for all the love.

Obama will not win a General Election even if he spent a trillion dollars.

isn't this fun.

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Sabchi — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:33:42 GMT

Patty, I have been reading these blogs for a couple of weeks now but have not written into one or had the inclination to want to until now. I have noticed your tired rants for a while now. You are so sad and such a lonely person. I feel so bad for you. I will definitely pray for you, hon! I don't know, I just feel like you are starving for attention and this is not the way to get it. People, please do not get angry with her, just pray for her.

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John — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:39:32 GMT

PENN: "Senator Obama has campaigned hard in these states. He has spent time meeting editorial boards, courting endorsers, holding rallies, and - of course - making speeches."

And of course Hillary, Bill and Chelsea haven't done any of that.
How stupid does he think we are??

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patty,sd,ca — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:39:57 GMT

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Hussein in the Membrane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:44:14 GMT

It's telling that the Clinton fanatics have been reduced to pushing debunked stories (the Canada flap, the Rezko "deal") and sheer racism. Two weeks ago, Clinton was supposed to win both of these states by 15+ points. I will be absolutely shocked if Obama wins one or the other. His ability to move into a state he's never visited and become instantly competitive with the Clinton Machine is nothing if not incredible.

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TEXAN — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:44:55 GMT

Hey Patty,sd,ca
I'm with you.I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA....
Obama is the BIGGEST JOKE OF THE CENTURY....

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Mark Thieme ) — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:00 GMT

Don't worry about Patty, it's just poor old van off his meds again.

On February 5 HRC's phone bill comes due.

Where will her Dark Force 1 plane land in such a national emergency?

Perhaps she'll fly around until the gas runs out and finally land in Vancouver, or Ottumwa in a pinch.

Or maybe Mark Penn will bail out over a large body of water.

They will try to call someone who cares, but Patty's phone privileges are restricted now and, of course, as reported above, the Clinton phone will be as dead as Bill's Mastercard.

If a campaign implodes in a swamp, will anybody be there to bury the detritus?

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susan f — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:05 GMT

hmmm, this memo is from/written by a Clinton campaign person? Seems to be more about Obama than Clinton.

So, referring to some of the text of that memo, I'm beginning to think that being a democrat requires that I vote for his candidate, cannot think for myself, must follow the non-thinking sheep of the democratic party, and that my vote this past Maryland primary, yes, PRIMARY (closed even) didn't count. Oh, well.

All this after I was starting to feel good and PROUD of about being a democrat/American. Talk about wet blanket!

I'm a 52-year-old, white, female, homemaker (yes, I baked cookies and ironed shirts) that NO WAY IN HELL would waste my vote on HRC. Didn't vote for Bill in '96 either, and am becoming more and more proud of that!!! Plus, I won't bother voting if her name is ANYWHERE on the ballot in November. I cannot believe that this person calls herself a woman; women don't treat men and other women the way she does! Belittle me some more Hillary, and get your campaign aides to toss a couple of zingers out there too!

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Pia NJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:06 GMT

Oh, Penn, go away, go nurse your candidate's wounds.

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s.b., Lincoln, NE — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:38:43 GMT

The HRC Campaign HQ is resembling the WAco, Txeas Compound. They all are going down in a blaze of negative publicity.