McCain attacks Dems on NAFTA

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:51:55 GMT

So, we have to maintain a bad trade agreement in order to further our global war plans? I don't know - the McWar name might just stick.

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richard, tx — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:54:05 GMT

Canada has what...2 maybe 3 thousand troops in Afganistan? Maybe less than that?

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Randy Craig, Boise YMCA-men's room — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:54:47 GMT

Canada also lists the US as a country that tortures, thanks to Bush and McCain.

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Randy Craig, Boise YMCA-men's room — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:54:53 GMT

Canada also lists the US as a country that tortures, thanks to Bush and McCain.

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James, Wichita, KS — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:55:51 GMT

Head up to Ohio and say that McCain! BTW - how many people actually show up to listen to speak? If the media did not report your events, you would have a very small audience.

Nice to here you are all for sending US jobs to other countries. Just like caring more about Iraq than America.

Sad!

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Former Dem, California — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:57:36 GMT

Obama: wrong then or wrong now?
Submitted by R. Neal on Fri, 2008/02/01 - 9:07am.
In last night's debate, Obama decided that Clinton's vote on Iraq would be the defining issue to highlight the differences between the candidates. He went on the attack. Wolf Blitzer encouraged it and tried to bait Hillary into saying something stupid. It didn't work.

But here's what I find interesting about Obama's argument. He emphasized that the authorization passed by Congress said "use of military force in Iraq" right there in the title. Everybody understood what it was. He said Clinton may have experience on day one, but that it's more important to be right on day one. He questioned her judgement and put her on the defensive about her position, which is basically that Congress was lied to.

But yes, Clinton did vote for the resolution, along with 28 other Democratic senators -- the majority of the Senate Democratic Caucus. One of them was John Kerry. Here's what Obama said at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in his keynote speech endorsing John Kerry as the Democratic nominee for president:

Obama: And John Kerry believes that in a dangerous world war must be an option sometimes, but it should never be the first option.

[..]

When we send our young men and women into harm’s way, we have a solemn obligation not to fudge the numbers or shade the truth about why they're going, to care for their families while they're gone, to tend to the soldiers upon their return, and to never ever go to war without enough troops to win the war, secure the peace, and earn the respect of the world.

So, which is it Senator Obama? Being deceived by fudged numbers and shaded truth, or bad judgement? He can't have it both ways. Why has he changed his position? Why did he support Kerry and excuse his vote for the war, and attack Clinton for hers? Is Obama saying Kerry's judgement was sound but Clinton's wasn't? Why? Because she's a woman? Because her name is Clinton?

In 2004, Democrats were accused of being weak on terrorism and national security. Creeps like Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney called them traitors. Democrats talked tough to push back and to reassure the American people. Obama went along for the ride. Four years later, the "war on terror" is a catastrophic failure, and both Democrats and Republicans are trying to distance themselves. Now Obama is on board for that, too, and criticizing people who actually had to make tough decisions on the record -- a record that he does not have. Obama should worry less about striking the right pose for whatever media spotlight is on him at the moment and more about being consistent, especially when he's going to attack fellow Democrats for tough decisions he has never had to make.

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Former Dem, California — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:57:46 GMT

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bc Indiana — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:58:16 GMT

McCain closes the trap.

Both Dems on record as renegotiating NAFTA, both missing the boat on how vital Canadian support is in NATO and in Afghanistan, and both getting nailed by a wicked piece of political gamesmanship by the Canadian conservatives.

I can see it in the general elction now... Democrats want to renogotiate 380 billion in trade, renegotiate tariff free oil as we teeter on the brink of recession and Democrats in general tarnished by the nagging suspicion that they were lying on NAFTA.

Hmmmmm.... like I said, time we paid attention to what's happening in Canada.

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Steve A Jonesboro IN — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:58:21 GMT

Why does EVERYTHING this old gasbag have to say have something to do with war? No doubt NAFTA has done some good, and some bad, but I don't see how it has much to do with war. Evidently it is all the old fool is comfortable talking about.

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Houston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:59:28 GMT

So the only reason McCain doesn't want to change NAFTA is so the Canadians stay in the Afghanistan war, which along with Iraq is also being lost under the incompetent leadership of G. W. Bush. McCain doesn't care about whether NAFTA is good or bad for our tanking economy; he only cares about his precious wars. The country will be an even bigger mess than it is now if this nut case gets to run it for four years.

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chuck, richmond, tx — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:59:40 GMT

Good luck in Ohio, Johnny! Oh, and nice use of the word "abrogate." I guess you had to repeat it 2 or 3 times to make sure that we caught on that you knew the word, huh? I'm proud of you.

Tomorrow we can work on "abysmal" -- as in your economic record. How about "neglectful" -- as in your lack of a health care proposal? Maybe then we can do "asinine" -- as in your idea of a permanent war in Iraq and an invasion of Iran.

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Houston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:59:44 GMT

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hb, Santa Fe, NM — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:30 GMT

This time around it feels GREAT to be a Democrat!! After seven plus years of the Bush nightmare, almost everything that stumbles out of McCain's mouth is a disaster. He may be a great hero and decent Senator but he will not be our next President!

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rosie, crestview, oh — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:54 GMT

That ought to win McCain Ohio, NOT.

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Marlon, Stamford CT — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:57 GMT

At a town hall meeting in Rocky River Ohio on Monday February 25, 2008:

"I think one of the most overrated aspects of diplomacy is talks," McCain said.

So what should be done for diplomacy McWar?

Now tell me why would anybody waste time listening to, let alone vote for this bumbling idiot?

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BL Hussein, Cincinnati OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:08:43 GMT

I can't wait for the debates. McCain has lost it. He can't even formulate an arguement anymore. He just repeats the same words over and over till he finally finishes a thought... then he has to correct himself when he realizes he said it wrong.

And Canada isn't the one causing the problems with NAFTA... Mexico is. And Canada is being hurt by that too.

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Houston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:08:50 GMT

A lot of Canadians want out of the Afghanistan war. If Bush can't win it in SIX years, he's never going to win it. Both the British empire and the Soviet empire failed to subdue the country. The Bush empire has failed, too. After the quick victory over the Taliban in 2001, they have regrouped while Bush was busy destroying Iraq. Afghanistan is now a narco-terrorist state, and the chaos has spread to neighboring Pakistan. The Bush/McCain "strategy" of using brute force to solve the world's problems has failed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it will fail even more catastrophically in Iran if McCain makes good on his mad desire to start a third war there.

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Sarah-Jane, Cincinnati, OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:10:08 GMT

Now I know McCain needs his crazy old brain examined.

He's more interested in the sacrifices of Canada than in those of America.

I'm not surprised. He wasn't even born in America.

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Bill — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:13:47 GMT

richard and Randy.

Canada has a combat force of 2500. For a country rebuilding it's military after years of liberal neglect its a significant commitment.

Also on a per unit basis Canadians are taking the highest percentage of NATO casualties as they fight in the South.

Additionally they have been extremely helpful to the US by helping to persuade France to commit troops to combat in Afghanistan.

They have done this while running a minority government and keeping the Liberals at bay. The Liberals are the prime movers behind the listing of the US as a nation that still tortures. The Conservatives, who hold power, have consistently handcuffed the Liberals on the torture agenda.

What you have to realize is that many Canadians support the US, but like here, it depends on who you talk to.

I will say this though, Canadian friends I talk to are responding to McCain as the FIRST US politician to even say thank you for their efforts to support the US.

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Sean, Round Rock, TX — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:18:35 GMT

I was in the room at Dell's offices in Round Rock when McCain spoke this morning. And even tough I am an Obama supporter, I have to give McCain marks for being able to recognize that re-opening NAFTA is not just about the US getting to ask for more rules - it is also about the Canadians getting to ask for them too.

Canada is the US's #1 supplier of foreign crude, natural gas, lumber, etc. And Canada has tougher labor and environmental laws than the US. And their economy is MUCH better off (no sub prime crisis at all).

If we re-open NAFTA, it may be Canada dictating the terms, as we need them for tariff-free trade right now more than they need us. And it may be Canadian laws that drive new NAFTA labor standards, not US law.

I'm all for fixing NAFTA - but McCain is right that Canada is going to get a vote in the outcome.

As for the comments above about the Canadian military - I support ALL the troops fighting in Afghanistan, not just US troops. Snide comments about Canada's help, when so many other nations do nothing, it not particularly useful and does no good to the US image in the world. Shame.

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Lee Holmes — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:21:35 GMT

Houston: It doesn't get any more dingbat than this. [like,''regaining the respect of world nations''by angering them by pulling out of NAFTA]. The reason McCain does not want to pull from NAFTA are the reasons cited by economists from all ends of the political spectrum. That American protectionism will destroy our economy even in the short run,and have the effect of alienating western hempishere nations at a time when we can least afford it. To protect our borders,we will need the help of the Mexican and Canadian governments. To continue a relationship with both countries in raw materials that do not depend upon Middle Eastern oil or drive the construction of new American homes through the roof we need the cooperation of both nations.
Obama and Clinton,in an incredible blunder [that both are now trying to cover up vis-a-vis any feelers being put forth to Canadian government officials,being bickered over at this very moment],are angling towards a new protectionism that hundreds of economists flatly state were precursors to the Great Depression.[opinions bearing upon this will be provided at the following websites].
Coupled with an even crazier scheme to bail out not merely homeowners,but real estate speculators,mortgage companies,and their stockholders,we see the beginnings of socialist ''5-year Plans''whose only result will be to drive the nation into economic chaos,allowing all that has gone before to seem tame by comparison. Even the economic neophyte McCain,sees what these alleged ''seasoned''veterans do not. Obama especially must grasp the patent fact that we live in a new global economic paradigm and that protectionism,especially that practiced by the US,will merely create more of the international strife he is seeking to avoid. He will destroy,in order to ''save''. As one French economist and philosopher put it,''when goods cannot cross borders,armies will''.

www.commentarymagazine.com

www.newsweek.com [Robert Samuelson]

www.realclearpolitics.com

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sozzi, mamaroneck, ny — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:27:12 GMT

Canada is part our coalition, one of many nations that we have to support financially & business wise to maintain the coalition in tack. Do we the people of the U.S.A. really cares is Canada leaves the coaltion. Remember the Sept. 11 hijackers crossed the borders from Canada.

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Pat Huntington NY — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:27:17 GMT

I guess McCain doesn't want to tick off Canada because he'll need their troops to re-invade Vietnam, you know, the country that tortured him...on day one McCain will take us back there, you wait and see...he such a war monger, I wouldn't be surprised if he did this.

Oh, and so what if Canada withdraws from Afghanistan...that would mean several hundred less Candadians doing nothing...when was the last time you heard of a Canadian doing anything worthwhile in that country?

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sozzi, mamaroneck, ny — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:27:20 GMT

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CJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:32:22 GMT

Bob Dole anyone?

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Jane Doe, Muscle Shoals, AL — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:34:58 GMT

O.K.!! Does anyone really think Hellary could run this country and more importantly be our commander in chief?

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Kyd70,SC — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:36:14 GMT

On the issues, there really is only one person that speaks with clarity and sanity. Obamites try to say having a sober look at the world as it is is "fear mongering". I guess my problem is I haven't sniff the gases being emited at Obama rallys.
I'm sticking with the realist, not the dreamer.
McCain '08!

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Forrest Gump, Bayou Labatre, AL — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:37:17 GMT

This is going to be a terrible period for America. Three terrible candidates left. How did we let the dollar become worthless? Wait until our big investors jump ship to the Euro!

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Tim, W. Michigan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:39:48 GMT

Responses to McCain:

1) *All* of our allies are important, even those alienated by this war in Iraq. Were that McCain had been so vocal in warning about losing the support of those countries prior to our invasion of Iraq. And now he is concerned with Canada? Canada has far too much interest vested in a strong US-Canada relationship to diverge too far.

2) In much the same way that Obama answered McCain with the undeniable fact that Al Quaeda in Iraq (AQI) was not in Iraq until after the invasion, it is an undeniable fact that Canada's leverage vis a vis their troops in Afghanistan is only strengthened by the fact that our military is stretched beyond breaking by this war in Iraq. If we were not involved there so heavily... let's say, if either of the Dem candidates is elected in the general and they follow through on their promise to bring troops home... then we have far greater resources to throw at the Afghanistan situation.

I used to have a lot of respect for McCain, and I would have voted for him in 2000 if he had made it to the general election. Unfortunately, since that time he has changed his views based on political expediency far too often and on issues much too large to ignore. He went from the maverick outsider to the former-outsider-now-trying-to-sell-himself-to-the-conservative-base-as-a-good-"Party Man"

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Sean, Round Rock, TX — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:40:59 GMT

Canada is not "part of our coalition" - it is part of NATO. Canada wisely avoided the "coalition" debacle in Iraq and should be commended for doing so.

When NATO decided the Canadians needed more help in the southern regions of Afghanistan it was the *French* that had to deploy extra troops to help - the US was overcommitted in the Iraq quagmire.

The USA is responsible for policing this side of the Canadian border. That makes *us* the idiots who let bad guys into the USA. Canada let them out - we let them in.

If we bust open NAFTA and Canada does not re-join then they will have the right to add tarifs to all the oil, gas, wood, etc we suck out of Canada like addicts. Even a 5% export tarif would cripple the US economy. We're not exactly in a position to negotiate with a counrty that has a well run economy and no debt.

Like I said before - I'm still voting Obama. But McCain has proven he has a grasp of the geopolitical issues that neither Dem has yet to display.

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XYZ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:43:47 GMT

Oh, give it a break, McCan't. If you think this line of attack is going to sway a single voter in this country, you are even more out of touch than the chucklenuts currently in the White House. Geez, is this guy older than dirt or what???

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Houston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:44:04 GMT

Lee Holmes [[It doesn't get any more dingbat than this.]]

It sure doesn't. But McCain is your dingbat. By the way, the MSNBC guy Adam Aigner-Treworgy caught on to the fact that McCain was misrepresenting the positions of both Obama and Clinon on NAFTA. Being able to lie and double-talk like McCain ought to endear him to the "base" voters like Holmes.

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David Waye, Halifax, Nova Scotia — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:49:02 GMT

SARAH-JANE FROM CINNY, I am Canadian and ever I know that in order to run for Pres. of your Country, You must be born it the US of A.
And yes, Nafta is hurting Canada also. Our Auto Plants are clossing down also.
But I want all you fokes down there to know, That I for one will buy Canada first and United States Second. Not Mex, not China, not anyother Country. Canada and then US. I know who my friends are.

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F Hussein J, Philadelphia PA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:50:12 GMT

McCain is going to get Abrogated in November. I regect and denounce you McCain. LOL...

I'd definitely vote for Clinton before I vote for this guy. I didn't alway feel that way.

Luckily we got Obama...

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Lee Holmes — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:51:06 GMT

Pat: Why did McCain push Clinton to normalize relations with Vietnam. Was this act performed to later ''invade ''it?

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Jake, Salt Lake City — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:52:14 GMT

"The point is not whether I want to renegotiate any terms. The point is whether you want to renegotiate or unilaterally announce that you are going to take certain action whether the Canadians happen to agree with it or not." - McCain

I find this statement ironic especially since McCain has announced his intentions to unilaterally withdraw from public election funds whether or not the Federal Election Committee agrees with it or not.

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Lee Holmes — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:56:42 GMT

Houston: Why would I take the word of someone in the can for the Democrats? More importantly,even Treworgny cannot deny for even a moment that both Democrats want out of NAFTA. If this be ''lie''or ''doubletalk''then refute it. With facts. Hop to it.[while you are about this task,you will also provide proof that McCain desires a retention of NAFTA regarding the Canadians at least, solely to ''keep Canada in the Afghanistan war''. Provide this,lest you be seen as a lying doubletalker].

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Lee in CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:57:55 GMT

"I will say this though, Canadian friends I talk to are responding to McCain as the FIRST US politician to even say thank you for their efforts to support the US."

George Wucking Bush was too busy strutting around the deck of an aircraft carrier in the same flight suit he hid in the closet during Nam? Cheney too busy counting his money? Rumsfeld thought it was over? Rice was completely unaware there was anything going on (failed to read NIE report stating: US in Afgahnistan")? Kathleen Harris still in hiding? DeLay had a bag of bug spray over his face?

Hey Bill? The US DOES torture. How you make that Canadian liberals' fault is really an exercise in conservative talk radio logic.

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Jeffrey Thurnsborough, Pickerington OH — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:59:23 GMT

We Need Canada and the UK. Lets not bash them. WE have lost a lot of close allies(Political, Economical, and Military). We need to fix immigration from Mexico!!! Did you see that peace on 20/20 (or 60 minutes, can't rember). Mexican laws on illigal immigration are far superior than US. Not that anyone would want to, but try sneaking over the boarder and working down there... good luck. Anyway, who is the lesser of the 3 evils... I think it will be Obama-McCain for pres. I love my Mexican brothers and sisters, but my good friends came in legally.

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Bill — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:02:43 GMT

Sozzi,

The terrorists crossed the border for 9/11 from Canada. COMPLETELY untrue. They entered through US points of entry. Newt Gingrich got slammed for that when he stupidly said it.

Please at least get your facts straight. You're making us look dumb.

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Bill — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:05:06 GMT

Lee,

My point was simply that the Canadian Liberals are the ones pushing the condemnation on the Canadian side.

Canadian conservatives, like Americans have less reservations on the issue.

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Lee in CA — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:11:44 GMT

Bill-

oh. ok - I can accept that as a statement of fact.

You agree with me it's pretty pathetic if McCain REALLY IS the first one to say "thanks"?

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Alan, NJ — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:12:08 GMT

Obama supporters will say anything!! This week in the debate Obama said he wants to reinforce the troops in Afghanistan, but because McCain points out that Canada is there we might want pull back on the anti-NAFTA rhetoric he gets slammed. You guys have no logic, or do want to be fighting in Afghanistan alone as well?

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Houston — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:15:21 GMT

Lee Holmes [[Houston: Why would I take the word of someone in the can for the Democrats?]]

Um, he quoted what McCain said, then he quoted what Clinton and Obama said. McCain was clearly misrepresenting their position. Just because someone relies on facts rather than lies apparently makes that person a Democrat in Holmes' view.

[[More importantly,even Treworgny cannot deny for even a moment that both Democrats want out of NAFTA. If this be ''lie''or ''doubletalk''then refute it.]]

I think Holmes means "prove it," which is what he normally says after something he doesn't want to hear has already been irrefutably proven. McCain's own lying words compared to what Obama and Clinton said prove it. But you coulnd't prove the world is round to Holmes if the Republican National Committee told him it was flat.

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Bill — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:16:39 GMT

Pat, Huntington,

You're pretty misinformed. There are 2500 Canadians In Afghanistan and they've been in combat for nearly 2 years.

But there are anti Americans in Canada that are just as mean spirited as anti Canadians here.

In the meantime the rest of us, both American and Canadian will continue to show respect for troops.

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Matt, Las Vegas, NV — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:31:12 GMT

Most of you people just flat out don't understand what's at work here.

1) The Canadians would love to renegotiate NAFTA more than anyone. Right now Canada is the USA's largest supplier of Oil, not Saudi Arabia. They would love to charge us more fees for that oil.

2) HRC and Bill championed NAFTA as one of the Clinton administrations big accomplishments. She is shifting her position to fit the mainstream.

3) Obama never had to say anything about NAFTA till he started running for President. It sounds to me like he's moved to the middle on this one though also.

4) McCain 100% supported NAFTA then and 100% supports it now. Not a convinient political position to have at this point.

Now what's missing from McCains argument is the fact that the Democrats are saying they want to "revisit" the NAFTA agreement, not throw it out, but re-consider the thing.

Revisiting something usually means nothing in Washington. That's political expedience, if you talk about revisiting something you have no obligation to change anything.

Meanwhile McCain has backed himself into a corner saying NAFTA should stay as-is. Tell that to the manufacturing sector in states like Ohio.

McCain is going to get routed in the General election, the only hope he has is that the racisit element in America comes out strong to vote against Obama.

The voter turnout for Democrats in 2008 is going to be MASSIVE, and for Republicans - with no HRC, the turnout is going to be abysmal.

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Colin — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:32:09 GMT

I'm Canadian, and was fully behind Obama/Clinton/Democrats, and as anti-Bush/McCain/Republican as any Canadian... but to hear the Dems condemn NAFTA is unbelievable. The US economy is in shmables NOT because of NAFTA, but because of China. NAFTA has added to the economy's of all 3 nations.

And yes, it's nice to finally be recognized by American politicians for our military sacrifices in Afghanistan. Our troops have been on the frontlines there for several years, unlike most of the other NATO countries.

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ya know — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:55:40 GMT

Lee holmes...

Why did McCain push Clinton to normalize relations with Vietnam. Was this act performed to later ''invade ''it?

probably because the VC brainwashed him and are using him as an inside source. LOL!!

Its comical though... anyone with half a marble should sit back and listen to McCan't.

Moderators have asked him specifics about the economy and he brings up his POW status and being a commander in the biggest squadron in the NAVY, then he goes right into the War on Terror. Lord forbid he have any grandchildren. I can hear it now...

Grandpa, do you like Vanilla Ice Cream?

lil John the III, ya know, the VC gave us cookies and cream after a plate of bamboo shutes. And I used to love the second helpings while on the USS Ohio... but the War in Iraq....

He will be eaten alive during debates that aren't hosted by Fox.

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Davy Davis, Sandusky, Ohio — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:57:43 GMT

I just saw the Clinton TV spot wih the babies sleeping and a concerned parent checking on her child with the phone ringing and ringing and ringing in the backround. Sounds to me like someone was too tired to answer the phone in the Whitehouse at 3:00 am on DAY ONE. How long does the phone have to ring at 3:00 am. It's in the white house for goodness sake!