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jaycee, Ventura, California — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:21:25 GMT

I’m glad some of you folks have started bringing up the ‘blank screen’ quote from Barack’s book because in many ways it goes to the heart of this campaign. You keep trying to push the competence and executive experience argument on Hillary’s behalf. We keep pointing to her lack of good judgment on the most important decision of her Senate career and accusing you of padding her resume. We’re getting bogged down here. I really can’t even fairly evaluate your argument. She is clearly an intelligent woman with an impressive command of policy detail. But as Hillary herself is now pointing out, she hasn’t had much of a chance to show her chops. Both of our candidates have been trying to function in an ossified and divided congress with very few members left who even remember how to work with their colleagues across the aisle.

Competence and experience will not be enough to get anything accomplished for the American people in this environment. Maybe Hillary is everything you say she is, I don’t know. What I do know is this; we can’t put the most polarizing couple in American politics back in the White House through a closely contested election and expect that the legislative branch will suddenly come to their senses and start helping Hillary convert her plans into law. We need much, much more than a candidate with experience and executive competence here. It’s going to take a flood of epic proportions to break through the logjam in Washington DC.

The only thing that will get us where we all want to go is a full-fledged, full-throated political movement that begins at the community level and extends all the way up to Pennsylvania Avenue. Barack’s quote about people projecting what they want to see in his candidacy and disappointing some of those people is a way of implicitly recognizing what Hillary has been getting at with her sarcastic celestial choirs rap. This isn’t a matter of electing a charismatic candidate and then sitting back and watching the wonders unfold. Any of Barack’s supporters who think that way will in fact be disappointed.

All Barack’s candidacy really offers us is a chance; a glimmer of hope that maybe we can find a way to pull together and turn our country around before events on a global scale overtake us. Even a glimmer of hope looks like a beacon in the darkness we have all been living through. Working together means more than just winning elections and then beating your opponents into political submission while shoving your version of the ideal down their throats. It means negotiating from positions of mutual respect with a willingness to compromise; to crawl up out of the trenches and look for the common ground. By definition compromise means that we don’t get everything we want. We’ll have to accept some disappointment even if we do win big as the necessary price for building a common vision of the future that works for everyone.

If you look at the huge gap in fundraising and total numbers of primary voters this cycle between the two parties, it’s easy to see the pent-up demand for change. It’s been raining hard for seven years now. The floodwaters have been building and they’re beginning to surge. If we find the right channel we unleash a raging unstoppable torrent, powerful enough to sweep through congress as well as the White House. It’s no empty dream. It’s right there in front of us. Just look at the numbers.

Hillary has shown in every debate that she will be an outstanding Senator for us if we can give her more to work with. Barack in the White House would be the best friend Hillary could possibly have in terms of getting her plans put into law. There’s nothing more to be gained by running as the establishment wet blanket candidate. Leave that starring role for John to play, and let’s not write any more of the script for him. Both our candidates can only be diminished on the national stage from here on out the longer this goes on.

I realize that some of us are bound to get left behind in the eddies and backwaters, and that is regrettable. I’m talking to those of you among Hillary’s supporters who are sincerely looking for the best way to advance the causes that she cares about. We need your help and we need it sooner rather than later. Superdelegates, if your role is to provide guidance for the party then now would be a really good time. If you support Barack please remember that we will need Hillary’s backers standing shoulder to shoulder with us. Watch your tone. Keep in mind that we don’t win anything until we start moving legislation through congress on behalf of the American people.

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Chuck, NY — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:25:31 GMT

Does anyone really think if Barack and Hillary split the delegates tomorrow, that she will drop out of the race? Was this the proverbial flame-out of Hillary? Will the media be happy if Hillary drops out, or are they licking their chops over a protracted fight all the way to Denver?

Will the exit polls indicate her attack ads helped or hurt? Will we see any new items of interest from the exit polls on Obama’s strengths and/or weaknesses? If Hillary decides to fight on, how many more high level endorsements will either candidate receive? At this point is any combination of an Edwards/Biden/Richardson endorsement going to help?

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Sam Adams,Houston,Tx. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:26:40 GMT

Just lookie here Martha, Hillary Clinton information,just a click away at hillaryclinton.com.

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ME, CA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:27:37 GMT

One of the great ironies of the past eight weeks has been Senator Clinton flogging the “reality, not rhetoric” line and her supporters blindly following while accusing those who have carefully decided to support Obama as “Obama-tons, “naïve kids,” and worse.

Now, she should sell whatever slogans she thinks will work. However, here’s the problem: if you look at the REALITY of HER resume, it doesn’t come close to supporting her rhetoric. Said more simply, Senator Clinton’s FOUNDATIONAL argument for her campaign, that she has 3 decades of “experience” that make her “ready to lead” the United States of America “on Day 1,” has almost ZERO basis in fact.

Here are the facts from Senator Clinton’s resume about her “experience” (in other words, the “reality” not the “rhetoric”):

*1 year at the Children’s Defense Fund (terrific but millions of Americans have worked for nonprofits for at least 1 year, that hardly qualifies one for President).

*3 years as a junior-level staff member on Capitol Hill (fantastic, but again, thousands of capable young Americans have worked on Capitol Hill, they’re not all going to be President).

*15 years as a corporate attorney for a tiny law firm in Arkansas after she failed the NY bar twice (again, the legal work is admirable but not even “top shelf” in the legal world given the thousands of first-tier attorneys at major corporations across America. As far as the NY Bar is concerned, the NY Bar is the toughest in the country other than California but hundreds if not thousands of lawyers pass it every year. So, failing twice raises a red flag if someone is claiming to be capable enough to be President of the United States.

*8 years as first lady—of course we all thank her for her service and empathize with how difficult some of the days in the latter part of the nineties were for her. However, this is not a pity party. Nor should our votes be some sort of payback for her being first lady. This is an important decision we’re all making. The fact is that the ONE thing she was responsible for not only failed badly but it was terribly mismanaged by her. Yes, she did help get a small children’s vaccine program through in 1998. Again, it’s an admirable achievement but it’s hardly singular. In fact, it pales in comparison to many of the brilliant achievements of tens of thousands of women executives, physicians, attorneys, and nonprofit heads in the US. We could start by listing the achievements of women governors for example, not to mention many other women Senators.

*7 years as a Senator (she’s passed, what 2 small pieces of legislation? Again, an excellent achievement but hardly the basis for a national campaign.

For her to suggest that she has a massive experience advantage over Senator Obama is somewhere between laughable and offensive. The more she makes these claims, the more offensive they are because they insult people’s intelligence. In essence, with a complicit national media, she’s pulled one over on a whole lot of people. Not a SINGLE mainstream journalist has questioned her claim to the “experience” mantle. Not a single one has done the junior-high-school analysis that’s required to compare her resume to her rhetoric.

Here’s hoping the great citizens of Ohio, Texas, Vermont, and Rhode Island have enough pride in their ability to think for themselves that they’ll look past the careful spin and recognize the truth.

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James — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:28:59 GMT

I believe that things are certainly breaking Hillary Clinton's way. The voters appear to waking up from their media induced obamarama state of confusion and are realizing they are choosing a PRESIDENT, not the Oprahlooza self help author of the month. The voters are realizing that Obama is a pandering liar, Obama tells Ohio voters he's against NAFTA while his senior advisors tell Canada Obama doesn't really mean what he says about NAFTA, he's just pandering to Ohio voters. Obama is a fraud.

Hillary Clinton is the most qualified, most electable candidate in the race. Her detailed grasp of domestic and international issues is unmatched.

Ohio LOVES Hillary and if you can't win in Ohio, you can't win the Presidency. Hillary has already proven she can win big in the big states that are the must wins for the Dems in November.

**VOTE SMART!! ***VOTE HILLARY!!***

VOTE FOR THE SMART WOMAN IN THE PANTSUIT, NOT THE STUTTERING MAN IN THE EMPTY SUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Facts — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:29:02 GMT

Enough with the “27 flag officer endorsements” as the rationale for why Senator Clinton is “more prepared and more experienced” on foreign relations. What a joke. All of you who are posting about the 27 flag officers who have endorsed Senator Clinton neglect to mention the following. Wesley Clark has been running for Secretary of Defense in a 3rd Clinton Administration for 3 years. General Hugh Shelton was given his chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff by Bill Clinton. If he did anything other than endorse Bill’s wife, it’d be a shocker. This is just classic quid pro quo. The rest of them also received promotions under Bill and are simply paying him back for their career advancement.

The real endorsements that matter on National Security and Foreign Intelligence came this week. The Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee and the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee in the Senate both endorsed Obama. Both have the most experience on Capitol Hill in those two major areas. It’s probably fair to say that they both know Clinton well. And yet they endorsed Obama, saying they know he has the judgement to take the 3am call.

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LB, Virginia — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:31:52 GMT

I was shocked to see on 60 minutes that Ohio voters still think that they should be wary of Obama because he's a muslim, doesn't know the national anthem, and won't swear on a bible!! And Hillary did nothing to crush that sentiment by adding fuel to the fire with the "as far as I know" addendum!! Come on Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont: give her the big boot out of the race once and for all!!

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P.J. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:35:06 GMT

On Tuesday March 4th., history will be made.Hillary Clinton will come out as a much stronger candidate.

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Bob, DC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:37:15 GMT

So it's close. Obama closed the gap. Two weeks ago that would have meant Obama wins by default due to proportional delegate allocation and Hillary is toast. What happened to that analysis??

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converse — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:37:59 GMT

No way that Clinton would want a "do-over" on her answer to Kroft. She said exactly what she wanted to say, exactly how she wanted to say it. Exactly the same way her entire campaign has been making racist and xenophobic insinuations about Obama since the beginning. No surprises here.

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Fact Check — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:38:13 GMT

James,
"Breaking her way?" Huh? She's lost a 20 point lead in both Texas and Ohio in the past 3 weeks. She may still win both states but it seems as if everywhere she goes, her poll numbers go down. Everywhere he is able to campaign for more than a week, his poll numbers go up.

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iowan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:38:25 GMT

Ohio and Texas (and RI and Vermont): Keep your eye on the ball, the big picture issues of judgment, integrity/character, and 'vision.' These are what are needed in a political leader. The legislators can legislate and the traders can devise specific ways of trading. But a leader needs to be about the populace, not him or her-self. Too much attention on Hillary's personal reactions to the last days of her campaign; a good competition is always fun to watch, but don't forget the big picture. The idea here is to produce a November winner...with some vision and character. Go for it here.

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oknOK — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:38:47 GMT

LB in Virginia, it goes both ways. What was your reaction last week when Obama said "I take her at her word" when Clinton said she had no knowledge of her campaign releasing the picture of him in African garb?

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Old Joe Hussein Clark — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:38:54 GMT

Bluegrass & old time fiddle players from Washington State support Barack Obama!

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Rick Hussein, Ky — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:43:11 GMT

Now that the Free Weekend Media blitz is over for Hillary, can you Hillary supporter's put to bed this Nonsense that Barack is a Muslim? On 60 minutes last night, she herself said there was No basis for it. Are you still gonna push this after your candidate basically said Not to?
1st Read, that is an interesting analysis!Why is the Conservative Canadian getting involved in the Democratic race.Anyone that pays attention to politic's, is aware that GWB backed this person's candicy .
After losing double digit lead's, once Barack stepped foot in Ohio & Texas, thing's are breaking Hillary's way Now. What a Joke her advisor's are.They really do think American voter's are Stupid.She's hanging on by a Thread is a More astute analysis.

"Delusional Thinking by Common Sense American's is Over"

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Blake, Denver, CO — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:43:33 GMT

If Clinton narrows Obama's 150+ pledged delegate lead by 10 delegates, should that really be considered as a "major upset"? I remember a few weeks ago, Chuck Todd said that Clinton would have to win 65% of pledged delegates from here on out just to catch Obama. So my question is, how can we consider, lets say a Hillary victory in Texas of 50-47 and a 52-44 in Ohio (combined margins probably would give her at least a 10 delegate gain) a "major upset"? It seems to me that if she doesn't win decisively (10% plus), then she doesn't have a chance.

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Indie in Iowa — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:44:27 GMT

Obama says that he can win Hillary votes? but can he? In polls he and McCain are to close to call in both New Mexico and New Jersey, both of which were won by Hillary. When was the last time New Jersey voted for a Republican Pres, 1988? Can the Dem's afford to lose blue states?

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Patrick, Indianapolis — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:44:44 GMT

Hillary Clinton is by far the most incompetent and worthless candidate for president ever. She has absolutely no experience handling a crisis. You want proof? Just look at her campaign. Now she plans on filing a lawsuit in Texas if she doesn't win. Trust me, Hillary is so weak that if she were President and a call came into the White House at 3:00 a.m., Hillary would be curled up in the corner of the room, sucking her thumb, crying hysterically, begging Bill to fix the problem for her. She is utterly incompetent and incapable of leading this country.

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Lyn, MD — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:47:12 GMT

When you explain to me HOW she can catch up in the EARN DELEGATE race then I will say she should stay in.

If Obama where as far behind people would have pushed him out by now. Talk about media bias. Regardless of how you want to spin it that is what the rules said...the most delegates.

Take it away from him an explain how she will win the GE WITH NO AA vote and NO youth vote. He had a better plan and beat her based on the RULES regardless of wether they were large or small States. Isn't that the way the GE is won total electoral votes...it doesn't matter in what combination that you get the?

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:48:05 GMT

"If anything, the one thing the Clinton campaign has succeeded at is moving the burden of expectations on Obama. A month ago, he trailed in three of the four March 4 states by double-digits, now, if he loses three of the four by a combined total of, say, six points, it will be considered devastating for Obama and not Clinton"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol

Nice try, but unless Senator Clinton wins Texas and Ohio by 20 points or more, her "victories" will be of the moral variety.

So funny watching the media try the "Hillary as victim" narrative when her and her campaign have done nothing but spread smears and misinformation about Senator Obama from "day 1".

We were told that this "vetting" was the "fun part" of the campaign, and now that it has blown up in "the Clinton's" faces, now we hear about "media bias". Guess the heat in the kitchen got a little hotter than expected . . . the only thing the Clinton campaign is a victim of is hubris, poor management, and selective memory.

P.S. Senator Clinton said over the weekend she is going to release her tax returns on April 15th - why the delay? And why does the media just accept it? I see media bias alright - the media pretending Clinton spin is "news".

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pittsburgh dem — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:48:35 GMT

James...
sorry bud...but i agree with FACT CHECK. you must be dillusional if you think that things are breaking Hillary's way. I am not saying that she will lose Texas and ohio...and anybody who says they know is BS'n you. But she was UP 20 points only 3 weeks ago and now it is neck and neck.
How in God's name is it "breaking her way"?

Obama/Biden '08

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Ron, TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:49:14 GMT

Bottom line: Clinton has to win Texas AND Ohio by something like 70% to 30% to close the delegate lead.

She will likely only win them (if at all) by a 2-5%. This will get her practically zero net delegates (Obama could very well win Vermont and get more net delegates from Vermont than Clinton would winning Ohio AND Texas by 5%). Obama has -150- more pledged delegates than Clinton. Her swinging 5 or 10 extra her way, and "closing the gap" to 140 still means she loses. She's so far behind I just don't see how someone can have such a distorted view of reality. It's impossible for her to make that up winning by negligible percentages. She just lost 11 states in a row. Obama has won 24 out of 35 contests! She's only won 11 out of 35... she's won less than 33% of the contests to date.

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PY,CT — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:49:15 GMT

Press giving "Benefit of doubts" to Obama's econimic advisor saying BO is all talk about NAFTA... Once again what does this really prove...

Has press given any benefit of doubt to clinton?

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Maurice Richard, You Pick The Town, USA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:49:39 GMT

I would like to know why jaycee ventura, california is always the first poster in 'first thoughts' every single morning.
His posts never say anything different, they're always the same.
It gets boring reading his "I hate Hillary" spew each day, and it would be nice to see something different for a change.

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stay in it Hillary — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:49:40 GMT

She shouldn't drop out of this race, just because Obama supporters will strong arm her. They don't care how they are using the strong arm tactic and thats just inmature if you won't leave i'll make you leave sounds just like George Bush. Since the kinda leader I want.

Oh Yeah! the Canada story actual came out on Fri. and both her and McCain have mentioned it in their speeches, but once again MSNBC blew this under the rug. Until a brief mention today, another type of charactor that I don't want someone who says one thing to one group and another to the other group just to cover his ass. Sounds like George Bush
when in fact its Barack Obama.
He will lose if he makes it to the general, He needs our votes and I doubt if he'll get them do to how his supporters have been towards them. Should think twice before you sling mean spirited messages.

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helen,mansfield,ohio — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:50:07 GMT

some of the people in ohio might like clinton, but don't put everybody in that category, because I couldn't care less about her. Only a small minded person would think Hilliary is fit to be President, and I see we have a few of those or should I say racist mind?

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Matt, Toronto, Canada — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:50:25 GMT

Someone answer me this. what is the role of a CEO?

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Sydney, Paoli, PA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:51:25 GMT

Why are you giving Obama a pass on the Canada/NAFTA story? If this was Clinton or McCain it would be Breaking News. Give the people of Ohio and Texas the opportunity to realize they are being had.

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Johnny Hussein U, WA State — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:51:57 GMT

I support the Democratic party. I want the neo-cons and their dangerous agenda out of the White House. I will vote for whichever Democratic candidate receives the nomination. My preference is for Obama. The Clinton camp now seems willing to spread lies innuendo and smear against Obama to try and revive their hopes. Disappointing to see. Hillary knows Barack is a Christian, she could have been much more clear than "as far as I know"...she could have rejected AND denounced statements to the contrary.

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Ronnie Ruff, Washington, DC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:54:46 GMT

MSNBC does not seem to want to tell the whole story so I will:

"The memo obtained by the AP was widely distributed within the Canadian government. It is more than 1,300 words and covers many topics that DeMora said were discussed in the Feb. 8 ``introductory meeting'' between himself, Goolsbee and the consul general in Chicago, Georges Rioux.

Goolsbee ``was frank in saying that the primary campaign has been necessarily domestically focused, particularly in the Midwest, and that much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy,'' the memo's introduction said. ``On NAFTA, Goolsbee suggested that Obama is less about fundamentally changing the agreement and more in favour of strengthening/clarifying language on labour mobility and environment and trying to establish these as more `core' principles of the agreement.''

Goolsbee said that sentence is true and consistent with Obama's position. But he said other portions of the memo were inaccurate.

He said he has been surprised that such a banal and trivial meeting with a low-level consulate official has created so much controversy and resulted in such an inaccurate depiction. He said he was invited to the consulate to meet the officials and get a tour.

He said the visit lasted about 40 minutes, and perhaps two to three minutes were spent discussing NAFTA. He said the Canadians asked about Obama's position, and he replied about his interest in improving labor and environmental standards, and they raised some concerns that Obama sounds like a protectionist.

He said he responded that Obama is not a protectionist, but that the Illinois senator tries to strike a balance between the economic struggles of working Americans and recognizing that free trade is good for the economy.

``That's a pretty ham-handed description of what I answered,'' Goolsbee said of memo's account. ``A: In no possible way was that a reference to NAFTA. And B: In no possible way was I inferring that he was going to introduce any policies that you should ignore and he had no intention of enacting. Those are both completely crazy.''

Tristan Landry, a spokesman for the Canadian embassy in Washington, said DeMora was not available for an interview Sunday. His only comment on the memo was to say that although consulate officials reach out to U.S. campaign officials to seek their views, ``Canada does not in any way seek to interfere in U.S. electoral politics.''

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Jill Miller, Akron,Ohio — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:55:39 GMT

H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N . C O M . : > )

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Lisa, New Britain, CT — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:57:04 GMT

I also was extraordinarily disappointed that some in Ohio still take it as a given the smear statements that have been passed on to them about Obama (referencing the erroneous view of Obama's religious beliefs and his being one of MANY PATRIOTIC AMERICANS who stand at attention instead of hand over heart at the playing of the National Anthem).

Please people (and I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here) do just a wee bit of research before passing on these smear emails and rumors. That is only fair to any candidate. If Obama loses because of these erroneous views, well our country loses more than just a young visionary leader. We lose a bit of ourselves.

predicting our neighbor state of RI goes for Obama!!

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Edna Georges, Fairfield Ct — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:57:11 GMT

"...If you support Barack please remember that we will need Hillary’s backers standing shoulder to shoulder with us. Watch your tone. Keep in mind that we don’t win anything until we start moving legislation through congress on behalf of the American people. ..."
jaycee, Ventura, California (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 9:21 AM)

jaycee, I am a lifelong Democrat, and I will never vote for Obama.
Mostly because if what you write.

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Juan Hussein Gonzalez, South TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:57:15 GMT

I'll start listening to any news from the Clinton camp as soon as she turns over her taxes. I know she's busy, but one call to the IRS, and they would fax her a copy so she doesn't have to "find" hers.
The most damaging story I've read about her came out on Friday.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/0...
If Obama played Hillary's mud-slinging games, this story would not have been buried.
I read it - Shame on you Hillary, for selling out every woman in America!

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Food for thought — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:58:17 GMT

In regards to the allegations of the Obama chief domestic policy advisor contacting the Canadian government in regards to Obama's talks about NAFTA, it is very worrisome to me. I consider myself to be a thinker. In other words, I don't believe everything that I hear. It is hard for me to believe that the Obama campaign would contact the Canadians and say this, even if it was true, before the primary election takes place in Ohio. That does not make any sense. What would be the purpose? At this point and time, the candidates have no real authority on this matter so why would either feel the need to justify their positions on this matter to the Canadian government. Furthermore, why would the Canadian government leak this information out? If this was true, wouldn't it be to their benefit (Canadian government)to keep quiet about this matter? In my opinion, it is the Conservative Canadian government that should not be trusted. Why are the Canadians interested in our elections? What do they stand to gain since they are obviously trying to sway votes?

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LB, Virginia — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:59:43 GMT

oknOK: I think someone in her camp did deliver the photos to Drudge. She also used the "as far as I know" in her excuse there too. I would love to see a woman president, but not her, no way. And though I won't vote for McCain as some have threatened if Hillary gets the boot, I will not be voting for her if Obama doesn't prevail. We in the DC area have had enough of the Clintons, as you may have noticed when we overwhelmingly went for Obama!

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Marion Theodora Browne, Darien, Ga. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:59:52 GMT

Me too Edna.
jaycee's dietribal postings turn me off.
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I'll vote for anybody but Obama.

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Willard Johnson, Morgantown WV — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:00:31 GMT

jaycee venture has made me an Obama hater.

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Nj — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:00:40 GMT

This is the scary thing. What if Obama were a muslim, buddhist, Seik or Hindu?? Would that make a difference in what he is saying?? It shouldnt but as we see this country is still loaded with Bigotry. To think that people wont vote for a person because they HEARD they were this or that is crazy. have any of these Gpd fearing bone heads analyzed The Bible? Do they even know that it was written way after the fact and was edited so The Church can have complete Power??
These God fearing people who beat their wives, get drunk, cheat on their wives and incest their children.
I am at a loss for words on this. If Obama loses because of this I give up.

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SadStateOfAffairs — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:01:25 GMT

Why isn't MSNBC reporting THE BIG FAT NAFTA LIE? It's being reported on most major news outlets. Oh, and a little insight into Rezko might be nice. Corruption and lies abound in the Obama camp. "Change you need to run from". As quickly as possible!

Why the cover-up MSNBC?

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George Watts, Denver Co. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:01:27 GMT

jaycee's posts make me want to vote against Obama

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my2cents, MI — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:01:44 GMT

I think everyone is missing the biggest point. HILLARY CAN'T WIN. Barack will go to the convention with the most pledged delegates, the most states won, the most popular vote including Florida and Michigan where his name wasn't even on the ballot. She can only hope the super delegates will thwart the will of the majority. If that happens it will tear the democrats to pieces. She should have already conceded this race for the good of the party.

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Clark Powell, Columbia SC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:02:16 GMT

jaycee ventura has absolutely convinced me that I MUST vote for Hillary

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Terry, Great Plains — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:02:32 GMT

At the end of the day on Tuesday there will be no decisive victory for Ms. Clinton. If she wins both Ohio and Texas it will be under the 60% that she would need to pick up delegates. Vermont should be a significant victory for Mr. Obama with RI being an 8% to 10% win for Ms. Clinton.

If Mr. Obama wins the popular vote in Texas( or if not the proportional element of past democratic voting should favor his taking and equal if not more delegates)and loses Ohio Ms. Clinton will claim victory and go on. The end result is that she can not overtake his elected delgate lead. Thus at the convention she and Bill will attempt to strong arm the super dlegatges to hand her the nomination. Most Likely( not countinng decertified Florida and Michigan) Obama should have both the majority of poplur votes,elected delegates and most states won. What a Hillary nominaiton will bring is a loss of the independents, new voters and the African American vote needed to counter a centrist campaign by Mr. McCain. Becasue of perecieved strong arm tactics Hillary will suppress the African American vote drive independents to Mr. McCain and turn away the young voters from the democratic party. The democratic party and the Clinton's will have no one to blame for their debacle but themselves. This is what happens when you run and incumbent campaign with an arrogance and incompetence that the Clinton's did and then want the party to bail you out from those non democratic and caucus voters who voted for Obama.To paraphrase Mr. Lincoln a house devided will fall in the fall.

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Jack - Houston, TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:02:50 GMT

What good is change without experience?

Hillary brings change with experience.

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Carol, Iowa — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:03:09 GMT

Texas, Ohio, Vermont & RI,

Please save our country!!! Do not put an incompetant Junior Senator in the White House. Clinton & McCain are the only two candidates who are competant enough to run the country. Hillary is the only one who can turn the country around.
Do you think HRC supporter will flock to Obama if Hillary withdraws? WRONG
NO BAMA NO BAMA NO BAMA NO BAMA NO BAMA
Clinton or McCain 08

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Howard B., New York — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:03:13 GMT

If things do, in fact, break Clinton's way, as her communications director suggests, it will simply be on the strength of her ability to cull sympathy with voters. This is no way to run a campaign if you want to be seen as strong, decisive and ready on Day One.

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Juan Hussein Gonzalez, South TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:03:26 GMT

I doubt firstread is going to print this.

I'll start listening to any news from the Clinton camp as soon as she turns over her taxes. I know she's busy, but one call to the IRS, and they would fax her a copy so she doesn't have to "find" hers.
The most damaging story I've read about her came out on Friday.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/0...
If Obama played Hillary's mud-slinging games, this story would not have been buried.
I read it - Shame on you Hillary, for selling out every woman in America!

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Doug Cox, Tucker City Alabama — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:03:39 GMT

The more I read jaycee ventura's posts, the more I realize that Hillary Clinton should be our next President.

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Sonali, Plano Texas — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:04:04 GMT

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ye. cary, NC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:04:19 GMT

country is in serious truble.
only clinton can fix it!
vote obama is a big risk. I am very worry about he will change this great, beautiful america to a what kind of society?
wake up, peple!
An independent

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Gen Rossi, Queens, NY — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:04:34 GMT

Obama swung a backroom deal with Canada regarding NAFTA? Sounds like old time politics to me.

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Lee Watts, Bayamone PR — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:04:56 GMT

The more I read jaycee ventura's posts, the more skeptical I am about Obama.

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Gladis King, Houston, Texas — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:05:27 GMT

It is time for "change", it's time for Hillary Clinton.hillaryclinton.com .

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Herman Justaling, Davenport Iowa — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:07:01 GMT

Thanks to jaycee, I now support Hillary Clinton

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Jay — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:07:05 GMT

So Jaycee, after months of bashing Hillary and her supporters you now are turning on the charming sweet talk? I'd say you've learned a lot from your mentor. Neither Obama or Hillary are going to make it into the White House - there has been too much of a division and the DNC has just sat back and allowed it to happen. Both "sides" Obama and Hillary have played dirty and shot themselves in the foot. Both sides have alientated each other. For a year that should have easily been the year of the Dems, it will once again stay with the ruling republicans. What a shame.

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JJ, Dayton OH — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:07:30 GMT

I supported the Clinton's during the nineties, but she once again showed her poor judgment last night on 60-minutes. She is a trained lawyer, and understands that her weak answer about the false smears will only reinforce the concern that uneducated voters have about Senator Obama. It is shameful . . .I hope that Bill Richardson & John Edwards remind her of the damage she is doing to the party!

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The Analyst — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:07:50 GMT

There will be a swing of more than 10 delegates because Obama is beginning to be found out at last for the liar he is.

The polling trends have been towards Clinton in the last few days- this drip, drip of bad publicity for Obama is going to continue that trend. The undecideds and waverers are going to have second thoughts about backing a candidate who is now being exposed for what he is - a politician on the make.

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Rodney Morton, Richmond, VA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:07:55 GMT

Tuesday will be a test for Clinton. Will she go scorched earth and attempt to drag this out or do the right thing and bow out with some credibility left. Shame on the media for giving in to her critiques about fairness of coverage. The fact that she is still in the race after her month long string of losses shows that she is not getting dumped on too bad. Were the situation reversed, Obama would have been run out on a rail. Now, she has somehow fostered the illusion that Obama has to sweep all four or his campaign is in trouble. She has already shown that she doesn't care much about the future of the party in the general, but I hope she will do the right thing and call it quits if she doesn't crush him in the two big contests on Tuesday. Call it quits before the damage you are doing is permanent.

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Conservative Democrat For Obama — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:08:38 GMT

I am fed up with the politics as usual in DC. I don't particularly want a lib running the country but Barack has a different tone. Barack seems to be real smart and speaks of reaching out to all in America. I like that.

Hillary just hits me wrong. She draws a strong negative from me.

I am from Pennsylvania where I will vote for Barack in the April primary but hopefully the people in Ohio and Texas will send Hillary packing.

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:08:39 GMT

Fact Check:

Good points. Hillary was supposed to win Texas and Ohio and less then two - three weeks ago was ahead by double digits. Now both States are virtual ties with Obama most likely comning out of Texas with the majority of delegates following the primary votes and the caucas meetings, as well as a split of delegates in Ohio. So where is this breaking her way movement? I don't see it.

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Chandiga — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:09:52 GMT

VOTE OBAMA !!!!

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Lisa, New Britain, CT — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:09:52 GMT

Hey First Read staff, did you ever find out what was the content of Barack Obama's two-minute ads on this Monday night? Inquiring minds want to know!

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ye,cary,NC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:10:19 GMT

our country is in serious truble,only Clinton can fix it.
vote Obama is a big risk. he will change our great, beautiful country to what kind of society?
wake up, people!
an independent

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Democratic Lovefest — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:13:31 GMT

I've come to a conclusion and it's been a long time coming. This democratic primary has been a battle ground, for the canidates and their constintuents. My girlfriend and I have almost broken up multiple times simply because she is staunch Hillary and I'm staunch Obama. But, over the past few days, I've grown to accept the first true Female contender as well... a phenomenon of equal granduer as her elliquent rival. I'm not saying here that I'm stopping my support for Obama. I still connect most with his message of hope and most specifically optimism about our country's future. But, to all my fellow Obamaites, Hillary Clinton is AMAZING! I woke up and read about how she has been up since 5 this morning talking to Ohio voters. Give the woman some credit for her passion. And for all you "rival" Clintonites, give the dude some credit! He is an inhuman FORCE. He built a brand name comprimable to his rival within a year and has inspired millions who haven't felt inspired in decades, if ever.
What's my point? We are the democratic party, people. And we have two amazing canidates. This should not be our demise in the national election. We are priming are contenders in an the most contested primary, probably ever. And though I like McCain as a person, I refuse to select him as my president. So, the day before possibly the last primary contest, all of you need to begin considering, how amazing your rivals have been and remember that your similarities greatly outweigh your differences.

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Pacific NW Mark — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:14:54 GMT

The media is as responsible as anyone for parroting the Clinton campaign line about moving expectations, but the delegate math is clearer, and less kind to Clinton.

While narrow wins by Clinton in either Texas or Ohio (or both) may be trumpeted by her campaign as signs the race must continue, the reality is she needs to blow out Obama by substantial margins in the remaining contests to hope to come close to matching his pledged delegates.

The Clinton campaign has penned (pun not intended) their own demise in this campaign - with unprecedented name recognition, a large fundraising lead, and most of the party apparatus on board - they've run one of the least effective campaigns in our lifetimes.

If Clinton doesn't succeed Tuesday by wide margins - 60% or better - she needs to withdraw. She can salvage some political capital with a graceful exit.

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OpenMindedinNC,NC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:15:20 GMT

ME in CA

I too have wondered why the media doesn't question her 35 years expereince, maybe she can go for 40 years if she belonged to the girl scouts when growing up. You can umpire major league baseball for 35 years, but if they put you in a baseball uniform and sit you on the bench it doesn't make you a ball player.

Jaycee

I agree Hillary & the Clintons ar the most polarizing people at a time when wew do not need this. I am a 50+ white male, a life long Republican who switched to Independent so that I can vote for Obama in the primary in NC. If he doen't get nominated I will vote for McCain in the national election because he does have "35 + Years" of true experience.

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MR, Seattle — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:15:30 GMT

What a complete distortion of the delegate math: "if he loses three of the four by a combined total of, say, six points, it will be considered devastating for Obama".

It's Hillary that has to win by 65-70% just to catch up with Obama! Impossible for her of course.

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Food for thought, OH — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:16:54 GMT

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Jason, Minneapolis — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:18:45 GMT

To the 'not pass the ny bar in two tries' deal. I can't say that I have anything against Hill even though I'm an Obama fan. Regardless, at least it wasn't 894 out of a naval academy class of 899, that would be the bottom 1% for McCain, ha!

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Anti-obama — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:18:55 GMT

Hillary goes, I vote for McCain. I will NOT ever trust Obama, especially the way the Media is fawning over him. My GOD... if anyone has divided this party, it is Obama, his stupid racist wife and the media. I can't vote for someonoe who isn't patriotic. Or who's wife isn't proud of america. She is not a lady, but rather a rat.

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Dan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:20:11 GMT

Why do you think the Republicans have urged their flock to vote for Obama? There's even a movement by Republicans to become a Democrat for a day! Why? Why did big Republican donors gave so heavily to get Obama off the ground last year? Why has the corporate-owend media viciously gone after Hillary since the middle of last year? So they could have a so-called liberal democrat in the White House? I don't think so.

Their entire strategy has been to knock out Hillary Clinton. Why? Step back for a minute and look at the facts. Bill Clinton did the most for average Americans than any president since FDR, most of the time against a Republican congress. Jobs? UP. Wages for middle income earners? UP. Crime? DOWN. teen pregnancy? DOWN. Drug use? DOWN. Individual net worth? UP. Home ownership? UP. National debt left by Reagan/Buch? WIPED OUT and HUGE SURPLUS ACCUMULATED. The middle class never had it so good.
Everyone needs to read the following article. Karl Rove's whole strategy has been to knock out Hillary and then remake Obama in the Republicans' image and take him out in the general.

You may think of Obama as the stronger candidate against McCain. Wait til the Republicans get him in their sights. If he knocks out Hillary, the Republicans will remake him "in their own image" and transform his positive image into a negative one. That's apart from aksing Americans to vote for someone with no military or international relations experience in a time of war. It's a Rovian delight.

Everyone needs to read this article to understand the "through the looking glass" strategy of Rove and Co.:

http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

Whom do you think Hillary will have available EVERY DAY to consult with on every major decision or policy initiative? YES - Bill Clinton, the most successful Democratic president in 60 years. Why do you think the Republicans went after him so viciously? Because he was morally challenged? I don't think so! The reason was that he was EFFECTIVE and they could not defeat him any other way.

Do you honestly think Republicans in the Congress are going to break the leashes of their corporate masters in order to play ball with Barack? If so, then I have some swampland in Arizona for you. Remember when they shut down the government?

The Clintons have been there and they have done that - against a Republican majority. Oh, you say, that's the past and we need to look forward etc. Ask yourself: how many effective presidents have we actually had? We have the chance to have the most effective president back in the White House and you want to throw it aside for an untested, unvetted young man? Please don't let the Republicans and corporate media take that chance away from us. There really is too much at stake in this election.

Yes, if Hillary wins, we will have to pay a price. The price we will have to pay for the progress if Hillary gets elected will be to endure another corporate media propaganda onslaught against the Clintons. I think most Americans now understand that for what it is and I am willing to pay that price.

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Marie — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:20:59 GMT

Maybe I am crazy but this Canada thing is a bit fishy...I think it is odd that we know that the Bill Clinton was just associated with the Canadian business person Frank Giustra with a whole lot of money donated to the Clinton foundation and now on this page it is stated the question -- Why is the conservative Canadian government leaking this memo and getting involved in a Democratic primary race?

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old joe — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:21:28 GMT

keeping your word=Ill. Senate- Vote me in I want to work for you!! oh wait this looks better US Senate=Russett ask if he would use it as stepping stone-Obama said thats a "silly" question. We have heard that ans in debate. Now Vote for me dont listen to anyone else. Uniter =unites Blacks -than oh dont have time i am campaigning. Double talk,double satandards,and double faced.Bad judgement -he thought Americans are stupid and easly led.Not good for job!!!

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John, San Francisco, CA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:24:42 GMT

Hillary is a fine senator; she could even be the majority leader someday. But Obama is far-and-away best suited to be president at this moment in our history because of his generation, his intellect, his unique background.

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j fl — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:24:58 GMT

What a surprise! BO is starting to stink! Hope its not too late again for the dems. It might be a John Kerry situation again.......this time people choose hope over experience. Boy are people stupid!!! Oh thats right, we've had moron George for 7 yrs, so I guess its not too shocking.

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Brian — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:26:04 GMT

The Obama/Canada memo has been around for days. Its just that MSNBC decided not to report on it. In the memo, we find out that one of Obama's advisors met with a Canadian official to reassure him that Obama's "anti-NAFTA" stance was really a bunch of political talk. In other words, he was pandering in Ohio.

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AG, brookly, NY — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:26:36 GMT

Thank you for picking up the story about Clinton's comment on 60 minutes. This is BARELY being covered. And Hillary says the media is biased against HER?

I am FURIOUS that she would say such a thing knowing darn well that it is an out an out lie. America is seeing Hillary's true colors know that she's under pressure. This shows someone who has no moral integrity and will do ANYTHING to knock someone down and build their own self interests.

In contrast, Barack Obama co-sponsored legislation to HELP his (presumed) opponent, John McCain when the argument came up that he may not be able to run for President because he was born in Panama.

There is very little difference in policy between Obama and Clinton BUT A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN CHARACTER.

If you want someone for President who actually has some values and practices those values- the choice should be crystal clear.

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:26:55 GMT

'...Hillary Clinton lost the Jan. 26 vote there by a 2-to-1 margin and saw her standing with African Americans nationwide become strained...'

Race baiting by Bill and the Clinton campaign sealed Hillary's fate....

POETIC JUSTICE

'..."If there's fighting internally, the candidate has to step up and make it clear what direction she wants to go and stop this stuff dead in its tracks..'

From the LA Times:

'...How did the Clinton campaign get here?

By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 3, 2008

WASHINGTON -- As they mapped out a campaign schedule for Bill Clinton, top aides to Hillary Rodham Clinton kept his time short in South Carolina. They were probably going to lose the state, they figured, and they wanted their most powerful surrogate to move on to Georgia, Alabama and other Southern states.

But the former president shelved the plan, according to campaign aides. Day after day he stayed in South Carolina, getting into angry confrontations with the press and others. In the end, Hillary Clinton lost the Jan. 26 vote there by a 2-to-1 margin and saw her standing with African Americans nationwide become strained.

Hillary Clinton may be one of the most disciplined figures in national politics, but she has presided over a campaign operation riven by feuding, rival fiefdoms and second-guessing of top staff members.

Those tensions partly explain why Clinton today stands where, just a few months ago, few expected she'd be: struggling to catch up to Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination. If she loses either of the crucial contests Tuesday in Texas and Ohio, Clinton may face calls from senior party officials to end her campaign.

Some polls show her leading in Ohio but tied in Texas; the race in both states is considered close.

Already, some in Clinton's senior staff are pointing fingers over what went wrong, with some of the blame aimed at Clinton herself. As the race unfolded, neither Clinton nor anyone else resolved the internal power struggles that played out with destructive effect and continue to this day.

Chief strategist and pollster Mark Penn clashed with senior advisor Harold Ickes, former deputy campaign manager Mike Henry and others. Field organizers battled with Clinton's headquarters in northern Virginia. Campaign themes were rolled out and discarded, reflecting tensions among a staff bitterly divided over what Clinton's basic message should be.

The dispute over Bill Clinton's schedule shows how easily plans can unravel. Some campaign staffers didn't expect to win South Carolina overall, but "our strategy was to go after specific districts in South Carolina" to add to the delegate total while freeing Bill Clinton to spend time in other Southern states, said a Clinton campaign aide.

But Bill Clinton said " 'I need to be in South Carolina,' " the aide said. "It was a one-man mission out there."

Obama, who leads Clinton in delegates, would pose problems for any candidate. But aides to Clinton said the dysfunction within her campaign team made its task that much tougher.

Joe Trippi, a senior advisor to John Edwards' now-dropped Democratic campaign, said: "At some point the candidate has to step in and bust heads and say 'Enough!'

"If there's fighting internally, the candidate has to step up and make it clear what direction she wants to go and stop this stuff dead in its tracks. Otherwise there's going to be a struggle for power and control right until the end. It's crippling."

Last month, after a series of defeats, Hillary Clinton chose a new campaign manager, replacing Patti Solis Doyle. But she left in place many senior people, including Penn and Ickes, who have been involved in incessant turf wars.

As the campaign faces a make-or-break moment, some high-level officials are trying to play down their role in the campaign. Penn said in an e-mail over the weekend that he had "no direct authority in the campaign," describing himself as merely "an outside message advisor with no campaign staff reporting to me."

"I have had no say or involvement in four key areas -- the financial budget and resource allocation, political or organizational sides. Those were the responsibility of Patti Solis Doyle, Harold Ickes and Mike Henry, and they met separately on all matters relating to those areas."

Howard Wolfson, the campaign's communications chief, answered that it was Penn who had top responsibility for both its strategy and message. Another aide said Penn spoke to Clinton routinely about the campaign's message and ran daily meetings on the topic.

One running debate within Clinton's campaign was whether her defeats -- she has lost 11 straight contests -- were due to organizational lapses or a faulty message.

Some aides say organizational problems were the most significant, as Obama outworked Clinton in many states and sent in organizers earlier.

That problem may go back to well before the lead-off contest, in Iowa. In June, Clinton's Iowa staff requested 150 organizers; headquarters approved a budget for 90.

By September, Iowa staff were sending out warnings about Obama's strength. "We are being outnumbered on the ground on a daily basis by his campaign, and it is beginning to show results," said a memo to top campaign officials on Sept. 26, about three months before the state's caucuses...'

The decline and fall of the House of Clinton.....

Hillary's 'career of evil' is coming to an end...

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gm hussein — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:27:35 GMT

OK, Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont, tommorrow is your big day to show you are grown ups who are eligible to vote for a change in who you want in the White House.
Show us you can look past the color of someone's skin or their religion and make your pick of the content of their character. Let go of your old biases, take the high road to a better America

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Zoey, Tempe, AZ — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:27:58 GMT

She will do ANYTHING to get elected.

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Jeff Martin — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:29:20 GMT

Chuck Todd: Please explain why the MSNBC delegate count differs so much from the CNN count?

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LQ, Rochester MN — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:29:36 GMT

I am DISGUSTED by Clinton's comments on 60 Minutes about Obama being Muslim. For an attorney who demands concise statements - and demanded Obama "reject" instead of "denounce" Farrakhan's support - she was certainly "wishy-washy" in her response. She should not be allowing this vicious rumor to go on. This is only contributing to the fear-mongering. She is despicable - God forbid she campaign on her merits because she has none.

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Mark, anytown, USA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:29:38 GMT

The race was over after after the blowouts in Wisconsin and Hawaii. She's down by 15 in North Carolina now, but will need to win there by 40 points. Everyone talks about how Obama gets a free pass with the media, but nobody wants to point out the Emperor is wearing no clothes (notice I didn't go with pantsuit).

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/is-hillary-getting-a-free-pass/

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Moodi — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:30:52 GMT

It seems that you pretty like to make clinton bolder than ever. So biased and disgusting.

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wapitig8r, Gainesville, FL — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:31:34 GMT

UTICA, New York—The Democratic Party presidential primaries in Texas and Ohio remain too close to call between Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, with momentum sloshing back and forth, a new Zogby International poll for Reuters/C-SPAN/Houston Chronicle two-day telephone tracking poll shows. As voters in these two big states prepare to wrap up their voting tomorrow, neither candidate has been able to break away from the other.

The two delegate-rich states with elections on Tuesday are among the last of the big states left in the primary election season, and both candidates stand to split the delegates under the partys proportional delegate apportionment scheme.

Texas - Democrats
2-29/3-2
2-28/3-1
2-27/29
2-26/28

Clinton
44%
43%
43%
42%

Obama
47%
47%
45%
48%

Gravel
2%
1%
<1%
<1%

Someone else
1%
2%
3%
3%

Not sure
6%
7%
8%
7%

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Mark, VA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:32:14 GMT

I think Obama is feeling the heat to close the deal because there is more news coverage now on him and it is calling into question his experience and past. He was on ABC's Good Morning America this morning and he was asked about his deal on the house he bought. Obama would not answer the question yes/no on whether he would supply documents on that sale. Looking a little guilty or like he has something got hide. Also, the head-to-head national polls between him and McCain are now showing him behind and show Hillary even with McCain. The argument that he would do better against McCain in November no longer holds water. So, he is trying very hard not to show he is becoming desperate. The longer it goes the better for Hillary. If Hillary wins both Texas and Ohio, I think Obama is on the ropes.

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Charles Walsh, Haverford, PA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:32:46 GMT

I worked with Hillary as long ago as 1993 and have always respected her smarts and toughness. But the "as far as I know, Obama is not a Muslim quote" is so war-roomy, calculating and nasty that there is no way I can ever vote for her again. Barack is right. This country, its dollar and its reputation, need a fresh start that is inclusive and positive about American leadership and aims.

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larry albany ny — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:02 GMT

I'm glad that Iraq is starting to get some play again. I don't believe that the Demacratic candidates are going to let Bush and McCain claim that the surge is working when none of the political benchmarks have been met and their are still over 4 million refugees in country with no economy. We have armed all sides of the conflict and we are supervising a tactical cease fire until we leave.

Additionally Bush and McCain claim they won't talk to dictators but they will talk to Musharef, China, Putin, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Eygypt, etc but not with Cuba and Iran, how bizarre. And what is even more bizarre while we have lost 4000 killed and 30000 wounded and are proclaiming that Iran is the biggest threat our puppet government in Iraq is giving the president of Iran a heros welcome and proclaiming them as their biggest supporter. ANd to top that off the president of Iran who is in Iraq is bad mouthing the very American service people who are keeping their corrupt government in place. WE can't talk to dictators, that we don't like, but the Iraq goverment can? Its time to make Bush and McCain explain this total contradiction in policy. If we are supposedly there for democracy and all the parties are blaming us for the turmoil and violence, then why are we going to stay there 100 years. Bizarre.

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kenn — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:10 GMT

I thought it was over on SUPER TUESDAY,then you guys declared it over after the run of wins in the small states now its over after texas well then it will be over.

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loris bay — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:33 GMT

Hey lets circulate a picture of Hillary hugging some woman then make vague suggestions that she is a lesbeian and have Omama go on National TV and say he takes her at her word that she is not. Hillary is a lowdown scumbag. Even if she is the nominee, She will have destroyed the Democratic Party in the process. Her scumbag politics will cost her many, many votes, and the Republicans will win in November.

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Patrick, Indianapolis — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:35 GMT

Don't forget people. Saturday is the Wyoming caucuses (which Obama will win) and a week from today is the Mississippi primary (which Obama will win). So even if Clinton gains 5 to 10 delegates from tomorrow, she will promptly lose them in the next week. She will then go to Pennsylvania for SEVEN weeks to campaign (where polls have already closed her once huge lead to 4%). Even if she wins Pennsylvania she will net only a few delegates or none at all since she was not even able to field a full slate of delegates. Obama will win NC, OR, SD, and is leading in IN. Clinton can't close the pledged delegate lead. If she somehow becomes the nominee it will have only been by stealing the nomination. That will mean a McCain White House. This woman has no chance at becoming president.

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Dottie, Swarthmore, PA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:36 GMT

I am astounded that Morning Joe wasted so much time this morning on Senator Clinton's stupid remark about her answer to the 6o Minutes question regarding Senator Obama's religion. What else would you have expected her to say, in South Carolina it was the snide remarks President Clinton made about race now Senator Clinton is taking the same approach about religion. Both of them will say and do anything to discredit Senator Obama. I hope the people of Ohio,Texas,Rhode Island and Vermont see through this vile campaign and vote for Senator Obama

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larry albany ny — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:35:24 GMT

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Mary, Illinois — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:37:27 GMT

Why isn't the Obama NAFTA news breaking news? Where is the press in this? The people who will vote tomorrow need to know what is going on. Is Obama playing old time politics-saying one thing in public and another in private? This should be front and center for today! If it were any other candidate, we would hear about all day.

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sozzi, mamaroneck, ny — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:38:41 GMT

Hillary and her campaign have been spreading these Muslin rumors as a last minute campaign move in Ohio.
If the people saw the "60 min." clip you would be able to tell she is behind this Muslin rumor 100%.

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sozzi, mamaroneck, ny — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:38:46 GMT

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Sandy Kerns, Cincinnati,Ohio — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:40:00 GMT

New polls just out, the momentum has definitly shifted to Hillary Clinton. Come visit hillaryclinton.com .

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K"Hussein"J, Dallas, TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:42:44 GMT

For those of you who haven't already made up your mind, maybe this will help. This is the endorsement from the Dallas Morning News:

Editorial: We recommend Barack Obama

11:08 AM CST on Sunday, March 2, 2008

Texas Democrats have a chance to make history as they choose between two qualified presidential candidates. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton often seem to be singing from the same hymnbook, but that doesn't mean this race is a close call.

On questions of substance and leadership style, Mr. Obama is the better choice.

In sharp contrast to Mrs. Clinton's antics mocking his optimism, Mr. Obama has shown that it is possible to have both hope and intellectual heft. Her campaign has confused proximity to power with work experience, selectively taking credit for her husband's accomplishments.

Also Online
Voter Guide: Comparing Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama
At times, Obama-mania has threatened to obscure the substantive differences between the two candidates' proposed policies. A close examination shows that Mr. Obama is on the right side of several key issues.

Both senators aim to overhaul our health care system by lowering premiums and expanding subsidies. Mrs. Clinton's more mandate-centered approach could be a tougher sell, while Mr. Obama allows for more individual choice and avoids the appearance of insurance by coercion.

Both Democrats offer a significant upgrade from the current administration on environmental and energy issues. Both plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and increase our reliance on renewable resources. But Mr. Obama has rightly acknowledged the need to include nuclear energy in the mix; Mrs. Clinton has hedged.

Mr. Obama has echoed many of this newspaper's reservations about America's flawed death penalty system. And while he still allows for capital punishment in particularly heinous cases, he championed much-needed reforms in his home state. Mrs. Clinton, at times, has been an avowed death-penalty supporter; recently, she has chosen instead to highlight her push for more DNA testing.

Mrs. Clinton once touted NAFTA as one of her husband's biggest successes but now is threatening to withdraw from the free-trade accord. Mr. Obama is making similar threats but at least seeks ways to deliver on NAFTA's promise: microfinancing and financial aid to create jobs and increase incentives for Mexicans to stay at home.

On Iraq, Mrs. Clinton seeks an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops that, she says, could be completed over a single year. Her plan offers minimal military recourse in the likely event of chaos and civil war following America's withdrawal.

Mr. Obama has a slightly more gradual, flexible drawdown plan with the possibility of keeping a sizeable force in Iraq or nearby to pursue al-Qaeda fighters, train Iraqi forces and deploy quickly when crises erupt.

Mrs. Clinton's plan also is problematic because it hinges on holding talks with our enemies. She wants all of Iraq's neighbors – including Syria and Iran – to join a U.S.-organized regional security conference. But she hasn't explained how to accomplish this if Iran and Syria fail to accept the preconditions Mrs. Clinton insists that such "rogue regimes" must meet before her administration would meet with them.

Mr. Obama favors limited dialogue without preconditions, reasoning that communication – as opposed to silence – is the best way to resolve differences between enemies. That's sensible.

All in all, Mr. Obama offers Texas Democrats the best choice for leadership, for judgment – and for substance.

First thoughts: It's close

Lisa — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:33 GMT

We are in a recession created by the Bush administration. Foreclosures are rising. Living wage jobs are MIA.

Hillary Clinton will hit the ground running to bring back the American dream. For those currently living below the poverty line through no fault of their own and bring back our middle class.

Obama needs more than 2 years in public office to fully grasp what our needs are...the presidency is no place for rookies.

Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, and Vermont vote early,
vote Hillary our country needs her!!!

First thoughts: It's close

Nashville_fan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:35 GMT

Dear First Read,

Your post about the Canada story is VERY misleading.

First of all . . . Perry Mason? Huh?

Second of all, the so called "memo of the meeting" with Canada is in fact the typed of notes of a Canadian offical attending the meeting, not a document given to the Canadian government by the Obama campaign. So the memo is simply HIS RECOLLECTION of the meeting, not a transcript, and certainly nothing that meets Perry Mason standards - geesh!

Here is an excerpt of the story from AP reporter Nedra Pickler, since you decided to just print the innuendo instead of the actual story:

"The memo is the first documentation to emerge publicly out of the meeting between the adviser, Austan Goolsbee, and officials with the Canadian consulate in Chicago, but Goolsbee said it misinterprets what he told them. The memo was written by Joseph DeMora, who works for the consulate and attended the meeting.

Goolsbee disputed a section that read: "Noting anxiety among many U.S. domestic audiences about the U.S. economic outlook, Goolsbee candidly acknowledged the protectionist sentiment that has emerged, particularly in the Midwest, during the primary campaign. He cautioned that this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans."

I understand you all are busy, but that posting was a pretty sorry attempt at "journalism" by any standard.

First thoughts: It's close

Perry, NYC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:36 GMT

"Why is the conservative Canadian government leaking this memo and getting involved in a Democratic primary race?"
Umm, that would be to benefit Hillary, the candidate they think the GOP could beat easier in the fall & hand them another fellow conservative admin. in Washington.

oknOK ... Obama didn't keep harping at the point, re-qualifying it & sowing doubt in the listener, he simply said "I take her at her word" and moved on.

Frankly, I DON'T take her at her word on that; it fits perfectly into her consistent pattern of subtly drawing on racial fears while disingenuously crowing that she's some great champion of race relations. Her campaign in the last 2 months alone has erased any good faith in that dep't that she & Bill had built up over 2 decades. Sad but true.

Ohio & Texas, vote for the one WITHOUT THE BAGGAGE!!

BARACK '08

First thoughts: It's close

Nicholas: Minnesota — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:47:43 GMT

"The Clinton-Obama race has been exciting and fascinating ..."
--But now is the time for all good things to come to an end (I don't think anybody, not even Chuck Todd, could take another 7 weeks until PA). I hope the OH, TX votes turn out to let the healing process begin.

or as they say ...
Vote-bama

First thoughts: It's close

Yiannis, Baltimore — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:48:36 GMT

I'll take Hillary at her word when she says she has had no illegitimate children.

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Susan, Miami — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:49:54 GMT

Seems to me there is a huge gender bias that started the moment Hillary stepped in the race. Of course all the mens club boys and all the- intellectualize the crap out of everything females will scream at this one. Yes there are people who do not like the Clintons to start with..for whatever reason. But I have picked up huge gender bias and nobody wants to talk about it. All I hear is about race. Well, guess what, there are many people in this country who will not vote for any female because they are female. It reminds me of growing up and the backyard boys only clubhouse..where I distinctly remember I could not gain access. I also remember a white only drinking fountain on a 1st grade boat trip on the Chicago river.My parents taught me how despicable this was. Why is it we are talking about race but not gender bias? It must be off limits. Hillary is by far the best, most qualified, most intellgent candidate, but yet a male is chosen over her. Interesting....I think I'll be hearing from the boys club members soon and their "stand by your man" females as well.

First thoughts: It's close

Kay in Olympia — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:50:45 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a well-scripted, well-rehearsed attorney. There is NO way her "as far as I know" comment about whether [Christian] Obama is or is not a Muslim was accidental! How utterly disgusting of her. One more rovian, slimy, underhanded trick guaranteed to fan the rumour flames.
I was an early Hillary supporter (and donor). After watching with growing dismay her dishonest and sneaky -- not to mention ill-managed; how could she run a country? -- campaign, I am firmly in the Obama camp. He is not perfect -- no candidate is -- but his calm deflection of her nasty, calculated attacks shows to me admirable qualities for a President.

First thoughts: It's close

Sierra, SF — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:53:33 GMT

First thoughts: It's close

Obama backer — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:54:04 GMT

Looking at the historic data from Wisconsin on the real clear politics web site, Obama's average was 4 points over Clinton in the last poll; he won by 17 points. Extrapolate that onto the current polls, Ohio-Clinton +5 and Texas-Obama +1, and you will have your answer as to who is going to win. Obama's electorate remains under the radar until election day. Sorry, Hillary, you're busted.

First thoughts: It's close

Sierra, SF — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:59:27 GMT

Carol, Iowa: '... Clinton & McCain are the only two candidates who are competant enough to run the country....'

Yes, Carol/van...
Hillary Clinton has proven here competence with the way she has run her campaign
Hillary's campaign has also opened up a window on her ethics and morality....

Race baiting, Obama is a Muslim, 'NIG', 'as far as I know',,,,,,
What a sweetheart, huh Carol ?

First thoughts: It's close

Pery, NYC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:00:14 GMT

alright Edna & misc. anti-jaycee Sockpuppets!!

Put away all your alternate identities & do something useful with your day, like walk in a circle for 5 hours. That would accomplish a lot more than what you're doing now.

jaycee is one of the few truly intelligent writers here, and Obama will be your next president, so GET USED TO IT!

First thoughts: It's close

Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:01:09 GMT

I wish I could say differently, but there is no way that I would ever vote to return to the Clintons to the White House. Not only is their ambitious power grab offensive but she voted for GWB's war. This represents undpreparedness (didn't read the NIE) and poor judgment. It is indicative of a person without core values and I laugh when I hear that she is ready to lead from day one. Her nomination will throw the election to the Republicans (they're praying for her nomination) and will help us to lose Congressional gains in red and purple states. On top of this the Clintons have run a dishonest and reprehensible campaign and are an embarrassment for the Democratic Party.
Obama '08

First thoughts: It's close

Amy B Portland, ME — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:01:41 GMT

jaycee, Ventura, California

Thank you for expressing the Obama supporters' point of view so clearly and respectfully. If a Clinton supporter wants to challenge your premise that Obama is our best choice, then let them make the effort to make their case, beyond attacking and smearing the guy with the funny name. I have nothing against Hillary or Bill, but so far I have not seen evidence she has the imagination to think outside the box that Obama has. In fact, he reminds me of Bill.

First thoughts: It's close

Joe, USA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:01:56 GMT

Remember that, given Hillary's victories in every big state except IL, she would already be the nominee after Tuesday's vote if the Democrats had the same "winner take all" set-up that the Republicans have. Electing Obama at this stage in our country's history and at this early stage of his own national experience will be a disaster. I hope we don't get McCain as a result of all of this. Democrats favor Clinton, but it is youth, independents, Republicans and African Americans who have made Obama the frontrunner. It is true that it is harder for a woman and the media is biased. These are facts. Meanwhile, we are about to throw out the best candidate we've had in many years to take a chance on a newcomer with a silver tongue. Like with Bush, we get what we pay (vote) for...

First thoughts: It's close

Sierra, SF — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:02:26 GMT

Does ANYONE DOUBT these are PAID Clinton psoters ?

It's PROBABLY the same person

van, is that you ?
How about 'Tuck, Reality'
(how does 'reality) look to you now, Shuck ?

Clinton is running scared !!

HA HA

Barack Obama is inevitable

'...country is in serious truble.
only clinton can fix it!
vote obama is a big risk. I am very worry about he will change this great, beautiful america to a what kind of society?
wake up, peple!
An independent
ye. cary, NC (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:04 AM)

Obama swung a backroom deal with Canada regarding NAFTA? Sounds like old time politics to me.
Gen Rossi, Queens, NY (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:04 AM)

The more I read jaycee ventura's posts, the more skeptical I am about Obama.
Lee Watts, Bayamone PR (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:04 AM)

It is time for "change", it's time for Hillary Clinton.hillaryclinton.com .
Gladis King, Houston, Texas (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:05 AM)

Thanks to jaycee, I now support Hillary Clinton
Herman Justaling, Davenport Iowa (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:07 AM)

So Jaycee, after months of bashing Hillary and her supporters you now are turning on the charming sweet talk? I'd say you've learned a lot from your mentor. Neither Obama or Hillary are going to make it into the White House - there has been too much of a division and the DNC has just sat back and allowed it to happen. Both "sides" Obama and Hillary have played dirty and shot themselves in the foot. Both sides have alientated each other. For a year that should have easily been the year of the Dems, it will once again stay with the ruling republicans. What a shame.
Jay (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:07 AM)...'

First thoughts: It's close

JBates,Modesto, Ca — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:03:10 GMT

In response to "Oh Canada" if this was Hillary's people that had done this it would be a headline in the National news. Such bias

First thoughts: It's close

Jane, Seattle — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:03:15 GMT

Jaycee - thanks for throwing the votes to Hillary. We appreciate it! The democrats are so divided. I know Obama says he will get Hillary's votes... his supporters are the rudest, most arrogant, ugly (in temperment) and racist that I have ever seen. Why does'nt obama address these concerns?

Cause he is a racist too. He is playing the race card. His wife plays the race card. She is threatening. And RUDE. I have never seen a woman with less class than Michelle.

So I guess I will vote for McCain. I hate to say that, but I can't let those two in the house. Can we said 911 10 times worse?

First thoughts: It's close

Who's Sane — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:03:57 GMT

"This goes to some of the chief criticism of Penn we've heard ... he won't take responsibility ... he did everything he could to shield himself from responsibility as this CYA response to the L.A. Times exemplifies"

He acts like a Bushie, sounds like a Bushie, thinks like a Bushie. Sure glad Obama didn't hire him.

First thoughts: It's close

The damage has been done — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:07:10 GMT

jaycee, Ventura, California said

I’m talking to those of you among Hillary’s supporters who are sincerely looking for the best way to advance the causes that she cares about.

We need your help and we need it sooner rather than later. Superdelegates, if your role is to provide guidance for the party then now would be a really good time. If you support Barack please remember that we will need Hillary’s backers standing shoulder to shoulder with us. Watch your tone. Keep in mind that we don’t win anything until we start moving legislation through congress on behalf of the American people.

Jaycee

You are 100% correct and I have been saying the same thing for weeks now and no one else, not Obama, his supporters, or the media want to discuss this very critical point. I applaud you for pointing out something that is spot on where it concerns Obama winning the general election should he get the nomination.

The only problem is the other part of the equation that everyone is not talking about as well, and that is the part that involves Hillary Clinton's supporters being sick and tired of Obama, his supporters and the media trying to paint Hillary Clinton as the AntiChrist.

Refusing to give her the credit she deserves for all of the good she has done and has tried to do for the people of this country.

Hillary Clinton's supporters DON'T like Obama and all the time and the persausion in the world will never change that fact.

The DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE by Obama, his supporters and the media and November is going to be a COLD month.

Clinton's supporters WILL NEVER SUPPORTER OBAMA, EVER!!!

Good job Obama supporters.

First thoughts: It's close

K"Hussein"J, Dallas, TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:07:50 GMT

So do you voters who will vote for Clinton at all costs and despite all the scandal and corruption that follow her really think she will get anything accomplished if she's elected??? Think again:

Is America Really Ready for another 4 years of Clinton Scandals?

Hillary and Bill already own all of the records for scandal from their first stint in office- the infamous Clinton Culture of Corruption Years:

* Number close to the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 44
* Number of convictions during his administration: 33
* Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
* Number of imprisonments: 14
* Number of presidential impeachments: 1
* Number of independent counsel investigations: 7
* Number of congressional witnesses pleading the 5th Amendment: 72
* Number of witnesses fleeing the country to avoid testifying: 17
* Number of foreign witnesses who have declined interviews by investigative bodies: 19

The Clinton machine now holds the record for the administration with:

* The most number of convictions and guilty pleas
* The most number of cabinet members to come under criminal investigation
* The most number of witnesses to flee the country or refuse to testify
* The most number of key witnesses to die suddenly
* The greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
* The greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad.

First thoughts: It's close

John Stevens, Hillsdale IN — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:10:08 GMT

As an expatriate Canadian - I have to say that Canada should butt out of American primary politics ... period. And the Obama campaign should be talking to American not Canadians about NAFTA.

First thoughts: It's close

Kennell Worth — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:10:52 GMT

First thoughts: It's close

OBAMA/REZKO — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:13:05 GMT

It's the REZKO trail day. REZKO anyone??? Obama is busy, can not stop to help his BUD REZKO! Someday a pardon will be yours REZKO. BO can CHANGE your fate!
VP?

First thoughts: It's close

AJ, IL — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:13:09 GMT

It is clear to see that many of the negative, divisive and hateful comments are coming from Hillary-supporters. These are the folks who still believe Bill Clinton did not "have sexual relations with that woman. Ms. Lewinski." or don't know what the definition of "is" is. Most of the Hillary-supporters are voting for Hillary because of Bill Clinton. If Hillary Clinton would have remained Hillary Rodham, America would not be discussing her in our current timeframe.

First thoughts: It's close

Sal, Houston, TX — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:13:47 GMT

So, she's too busy to release her tax returns and information about her time as first lady, but not to travel to NY to appear on SNL? Give me a break, Hillary. (By the way -- has anyone informed her that 'Weekend Update' is not a real news program??)

GO OBAMA!!!!

First thoughts: It's close

Perry, NYC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:15:00 GMT

All you alleged Democrats whining that if Hillary loses you'll vote for McCain, GROW UP!! Listen, I'm a fierce Obama supporter but if by some miracle (or backroom deal) Hillary wins, I'll vote for her in the general. Because I have enough BRAINS in my head to realize that even the corrupt racist-in-activist's-clothing Hillary would be better for this country than ANY REPUBLICAN.

If you'd rather have McCain decide the next 2 or 3 Supreme Court justices and obliterate civil rights for the next 2 generations, if you'd rather have him continue the failed Iraq strategy & add another war of choice in Iran, if you'd rather see him FURTHER the mistrust our allies already feel for us ... then you've lost both your mind AND your right to be called a Democrat.

Get over your own egos people, and vote for our Nominee no matter who it is. Or just go ahead & switch parties & stop the ruse.

First thoughts: It's close

Elise M., New Ipswich, NH — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:15:35 GMT

Even if she loses all of the races tomorrow, Hillary might still not drop out. She has enough money to go on, and she has enough entitlement and hubris to fuel her for a good while longer.

I think it was Mike Lupica, the New Your Daily News writer, who said that the Clintons will fight this "all the way out into the parking lot".

This race was hers for the losing...and yep, she's losing it! Not based on her policies or her record, but on how she has run this race.

http://www.obamastraws.blogspot.com

First thoughts: It's close

PY,CT — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:15:38 GMT

Watch BO saying the meeting with canadian did not happen... And Press still giving BO a pass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCEFmKAoB4

First thoughts: It's close

Robyn, Illinois — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:15:56 GMT

Sen. Clinton knows that Sen. Obama is a Christian and not a Muslim. He has never been a Muslim. Historically, the Clinton campaign HAS been responsible for participating in similar smear campaigns invoking these fears. It has happened in Iowa, Nevada and during the 2007 primary season.

It appears that Sen. Clinton was using the fear of Islam and Muslim people to invoke doubt among voters, in regards to Sen. Obama.

This is beyond crossing the line!

This behavior is irresponsible and only fuels hate for Muslim people, the religion and encourage fear and hate mongering in this country and abroad.

Sen. Clinton is one of THE smartest, intelligent and most polarizing and formidable political figures in the 21st century. I truly believe her choice of words, reaction, tone and delivery to that question as to whether Sen. Obama is Muslim was DELIBERATE.

I hope you will denounce these types of tactics. It is insulting and demeaning to Muslims in America and abroad, to Americans, the victims of 9/11 and our U.S. soldiers. It is important that democratic voters and our countries’ elected officials resist engaging in fear tactics, bigotry and hate. It is even MORE important that during this heated primary, the DNC does not fall into the same behavior, governing style and political tactics that the GOP has been so infamous for, over the last 8 years.

It is time for America to turn the page and repair our reputation within this country and abroad.

I humbly and respectfully ask that people speak out against these comments Sen. Clinton made before it is too late. The damage has been done. It is time to heal and unite our party, as well as our country.

Sincerely,

Robyn

First thoughts: It's close

rose dilley, clearwater,mn — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:16:58 GMT

Is there a reporter out there with the political acumen to stop saying Obama voted against the war !! That vote occured two years before he was in the senate. I think it is past time for the annointing, and time for the voters to actually hear the facts.
The press got us Bush and now they're giving us Obama . I was pro Obama after his speech in 2006, but after the last month of ad nausem, I will vote republican for the first time in 30 years.

First thoughts: It's close

Hal J, New York NY — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:18:49 GMT

To Hillary –

We like you. We really like you. We sort of love you actually. You’re strong and sassy and smart. Witty and bold …and completely ruining everything.

Sorry to be the ones to tell you, but yeah. Please stop. Campaigning, advertising, pundit-ing, everything. Just please stop. Pretty please?

I know it’s hard to remember when you are a politician, but Americans, yeah we hate pretty much everything about Washington. The in-fighting, the negativity, the character assassination, the squandering of national wealth and the general disregard for the rest of us non-Washington folk. And so far, your campaign has been embodying a lot of those shenanigans.

Democrats want to win this election and frankly, no matter who the GOP nominee is, we all know the majority of this country would rather shave their heads with a cheese grater than vote for you. Again, not us, we like you. Them. But we need them. Every last one of them.

We need to win this election. We all know why. So do you, cause you love this country more than most people. So please. We are asking that you concede the nomination to Sen. Obama. Just this once. For us.

First thoughts: It's close

SHIRLEY AW,AR. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:12 GMT

PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO THE
REAL ISSUES AT STAKE IN THIS RACE. SO FAR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THE SUBJECT ON HOPE AND MIMIC A LOT OF HILLARY'S ISSUES.
THIS MORNING I HEARD JESSIE JACKSON SPEAK ABOUT HOW THE COUNTRY WAS MATURING BECAUSE WE ARE ABOUT TO NOMINATE A BLACK MAN. WELL, I THINK THE SAME ARGUEMENT COULD BE SAID OF NOMINATING A WOMAN.
OH NO!!! DID I SAY --WOMAN? HILLARY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THAT ARGUEMENT. PEAPLE SAY SHE IS "USING THE GENDER CARD" COME ON BE FAIR, AS THEY SAY --"WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER". I GUESS WITH FRIENDS LIKE JESSIE JACKSON THE CLINTON'S DON'T NEED ENEMIES.
SPEAKING OF ENEMIES SOME SAY THE PEOPLE ON OBAMA'S SIDE ARE YOUNG AND WELL EDUCATED. HAS ANYONE REALLY READ THE JUNK THAT THEY PUT OUT ABOUT HILLARY?
DO ANY OF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT TRASH? I DON'T THINK THAT SHOWS MUCH INTELEGENTS. IT IS DIRECTLY FROM THE CARL ROVE HANDBOOK. THATS WHY I THINK THAT YOU MAYBE NOT REALLY FOR OBAMA BUT RATHER FOR McCAIN.
I HAVE HOPE TOO. I HOPE HILLARY WON'T LET THE OBAMA PEOPLE TALK HER INTO QUITTING. I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF HIS SUPPORTERS ARE DOING JUST THAT.
HANG IN THERE HILLARY.
IT WILL SWING TO YOU SOON I THINK.

KEEP FIGHTING ON.

First thoughts: It's close

Nashville_fan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:24 GMT

Love all the "spontaneous" posts about jaycee . . . kind of reminds me of the planted questions from Iowa . . . lol!

First thoughts: It's close

Tammy, Nashville, Tn. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:20:49 GMT

It's time to pick a President. It's time to pick a real leader. It's time to pick Hillary Clinton.

First thoughts: It's close

OBAMA/REZKO — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:21:06 GMT

It's the REZKO trail day. REZKO anyone??? Obama is busy, can not stop to help his BUD REZKO! Someday a pardon will be yours REZKO. BO can CHANGE your fate!
VP?

First thoughts: It's close

MorganJane — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:23:21 GMT

Obama lied about Rockerfellers vote on Iraq War today on the campiagn trail! But the media didn't catch it!

First thoughts: It's close

Lori — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:25:39 GMT

Obama 2008!!

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MorganJane — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:25:41 GMT

Why did the media let Obama win 11 contest to catch up in delegates... It took 11 wins to catch up to Clintons delegates... if Florida would have counted Obama would have already been out of the race!

First thoughts: It's close

Doesn't matter, USA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:26:45 GMT

Racism? Let's talk racism.............CNN reports today that black superdelegates "are being pressured, even threatened to switch from Clinton to Obama".

First thoughts: It's close

Doug Richardson, Denver, Colorado — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:30:44 GMT

keep up your excellent postings, Jaycee. I thoroughly enjoy your incisive and well thought out comments.

dr

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Patrick Casey. Salt Lake City,UT — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:32:15 GMT

So the media gave Obama the benefit of the doubt? How nice of you. Now when you say this may hurt him on another story down the road, don't you really mean that when he is running (if he wins the nomination) against McCain, that the gloves will come off at MSNBC and all the venom you now have for Senator Clinton will be redirected to Obama?

First thoughts: It's close

Lorna, Klamath Falls, OR — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:32:27 GMT

I can't believe that Clinton will stay in this race even if she wins narrowly in Ohio and Texas or wins narrowly in Ohio and loses Texas. She will NOT gain many pledged delegates and look at the states coming up (Wyoming-caucus, Mississippi, Indiana, No. Carolina, W. Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana & So. Dakota). These are states that Obama will most like win by a big margin so even if she wins Pennsylvania by a slim margin, he will STILL be ahead in delegates. Hillary, please give up after tomorrow, for the good of the Democratic party.

First thoughts: It's close

Mox — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:33:42 GMT

Patrick,What is that based on?Is it your script for the day or just more mongering .You guys yell to high heavan if any one said that about Obama.It would be heard from here to moon.Obamas supporters are just like him doublefaced,double edged and cry babies.

First thoughts: It's close

Lynette, NYC — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:35:26 GMT

I have been asking for weeks how JAYCEE gets posted first every single day. Always thse long winded posts that have nothing to do with the First Thoughts. yes we know you love Obama. okay..

First thoughts: It's close

Norman E. Hussein Harvey, Sr. VA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:45:35 GMT

While the HRC supporters keep asking about Rezko trail ask Hill about Peter Paul and Stan Lee campaign finance fraud trial that begins in the summer.

First thoughts: It's close

curious — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:49:20 GMT

Clark Powell, Columbia SC: '...jaycee ventura has absolutely convinced me that I MUST vote for Hillary...'

Anybody else notice the new Clinton talking pint on this blog ?
It's co-ordinated, it's repetitive, it's nonsense....

Sierra, you're not the only one making these kinds of comments on this post. And, it seems like almost everyday somebody states Clinton supporters here are "paid", "shills", etc. But, you never see Clinton supporters accusing Obama supporters of that. Just curious why that is?

First thoughts: It's close

WHAT IS A BARACK OMAMA??? — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:50:40 GMT

Hillary, please give up after tomorrow, for the good of the Democratic party.
Lorna, Klamath Falls, OR (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 11:32 AM)
-------------------------------

Obama please get out of this race and save us all from your scam . You are not fit to lead a parade of dog catchers!

First thoughts: It's close

HENRIE — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:53:39 GMT

I WILL NOT VOTE IF HILLARY CLINTON IS THE NOMINEE AND MY CHILDREN ARE THE SAME WAY WE WILL STAY AT HOME ON ELECTION DAY.

First thoughts: It's close

Lucy — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:55:16 GMT

I live in Texas. Obama has a great deal of support here. What has Hillary Clinton really done? I hear all about how she has all these years of experience. Doing what? She was the wife of a Governer and the wife of a President. She has more experience at being a wife. I'll give her that. What Difference has she made that is so outstanding and what exactly has Hillary done for all the Hispanic voters she claims are supporting her. I know many Hispanics who are not.

First thoughts: It's close

lucy in Texas — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:59:58 GMT

Remember the Clinton Administration built the foundation for the Bush administration.

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laura, miami, florida — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:01:40 GMT

NObama please!!!!!!!!!! GO HILLARY

First thoughts: It's close

raerae — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:04:05 GMT

I didn't hear Hillary Denounce or Reject that Obama is a Muslim!! Shame on her.

First thoughts: It's close

Pat, Renton, WA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:09:08 GMT

I'm truly disappointed as well in Hillary not denouncing/rejecting the fact of Muslim she knows the truth. She is managing to mess with the minds of the lesser educated, those who dont have computers to be able to do their own research.

I am a Obama supporter, and I will not vote this year if she manages to win the nomination thru false/or half truths towards Obama. All the hatred and false-truths will continue and McCain will be president. I am a Christian and can never support someone that fights this way.

First thoughts: It's close

NEVER GIVE THEM AN INCH! — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:10:53 GMT

can't believe that Clinton will stay in this race even if she wins narrowly in Ohio and Texas or wins narrowly in Ohio and loses Texas
------------------------------------------------
BELIEVE!! If you believe in Obambaaa fairy tales you can believe Hillary is here to stay to the end!

First thoughts: It's close

YP Gambrills, MD — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:13:37 GMT

Biden, Dodd, Richardson, all has more experience than HRC and Obama yet all are out of the race. No one has claim that those guys being out of the race is sexiest. If Obama loose the nomination, should he claim that the only reason he lost is because he's black no that would be an excuse. Why then even the media is using that excuse for HRC.

First thoughts: It's close

Chris Hussein, Crested Butte, CO — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:14:17 GMT

Shame on Hillary for her 60 minutes comment. That was planned and only seeks to underscore that she will stop at nothing to get into the White House. The Senator shows no shame, no common decency. For the good of the party and the good of the nation, she needs to drop out on Wednesday so we can move on to beating McCain in November and restore common sense to the presidency. Vote Obama

First thoughts: It's close

MEDIA/OBAMA — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:14:32 GMT

Why is MSNBC day news not saying that Clinton has actually gained ground in the last few days not lost support. They are comparing polls two weeks apart when they very well know that there are too many polls in between when Obama had gained and now losing some points. They usually claim 1 day is eternity in the political season so they have no business saying Obama is gaining when in fact he has been losing last couple of days.

Sonali, Plano Texas (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:04 AM)

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YA what's up with that. The media/Obama train is way behind the real news and the polls they quote are pie in the sky!

First thoughts: It's close

Expelliarmus, OH — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:17:09 GMT

Why should I be moved by what Jaycee says one way or the other; I have a mind of my own.
I've decided to vote FOR Obama tomorrow, for reasons much more intelligent than "so-and-so ticks me off."

First thoughts: It's close

Dee, Memphis, TN — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:25:49 GMT

The more I read jaycee ventura's posts, the more I realize that Hillary Clinton should be our next President.
Doug Cox, Tucker City Alabama (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:03 AM)
jaycee's posts make me want to vote against Obama
George Watts, Denver Co. (Sent Monday, March 03, 2008 10:01 AM)

Are you people serious????? There is no way that a person , unless they are VERY simpleminded, allow several commments from someone whom obviously doesn't have any common sense, change their mind about who to support!!!! I have viewed this blog everyday and there is nothing that any of you can say to change my mind!!! I guess since alot of you seem to agree on deciding to vote against Obama because of comments by jaycee ventura then maybe if one of you jump off a bridge, maybe the others will follow!!! Man, some of yall are really pathetic!!!!!

First thoughts: It's close

Bonnie — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:32:41 GMT

Thanks Jaycee for another masterpiece. We are definately on the same page. You take our(yours mine and others)common thoughts and verbalize them in a way most of us cannot do. I thank you for that.

First thoughts: It's close

MNDem — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:32:49 GMT

Bill Clinton Oct. 2004:

"One of Clinton's laws of politics is, if one candidate is trying to scare you, and the other one is trying to make you think, if one candidate's appealing to your fears, and the other one's appealing to your hopes. You better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."