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Jaycee, Ventura, California — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:08:24 GMT

OK, fine. I don’t respond to trolls as a general rule, but I will answer you Lynette, because I know you are a real, thinking person. There’s really no mystery about my posting at or near the top. I’m on the Pacific coast and I work a 7 AM shift. They usually put up the day’s First Thoughts in the ten minutes or so before I walk out the door. So I have time to get up and write something over a cup of coffee, and post it just before I leave. I’m usually in the field the rest of the day, so it’s first or not at all for me. If you only want to hear from people who agree with you, then skip it. I won’t be offended.

Now would be a good time to get to know the real candidate, instead of the straw man you folks have been flailing away at. If you challenge us to demonstrate that Barack isn’t just hot air, then you need to look when we provide the evidence. Otherwise you’re just putting out hot air of your own. If you want to see how it’s done, check out this thoughtful and well-researched comparison by Grassroots Mom, titled “I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype.” http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
It’s too bad the MSM doesn’t do the kind of job she has done here.

If you’re emotionally attached to one candidate and a better one showed up unexpectedly, I’m sorry. I’ve been there and I know it can be painful. But if you are a Hillary backer I assume you are a strong supporter of women’s issues. The right wing of the Republican Party will extract from McCain ironclad promises to appoint more conservative justices to the Supreme Court, which he is inclined to do anyway. It’s time to take a deep breath before letting disappointment back you into a firm position that is against the best interests of our daughters and granddaughters. I think there is an old expression about cutting off your nose to spite your face that would apply to a vote for McCain.

I have a great deal of respect for Hillary. I just think she’s run a lousy campaign this year. I have very little respect for her husband however, and the thought of Bill back in the White House representing me and my party makes me shudder. As far as I’m concerned he let us all down terribly for nothing more than a few minutes of self-gratification, and cost us the pivotal election in 2000. I’m not about to speculate as to why Hillary is still with him, but I didn’t marry him and I would like him to just go away now, please.

We need to end this thing, people. For whatever reasons Hillary ran the wrong campaign this cycle. She positioned herself as an establishment incumbent in a change election. They did a poor job of managing their finances and took far too much for granted in their planning. She continues to insist that she’s a fighter when most of us think the last thing we need is another round of Red/Blue warfare. Time’s up; she can’t keep up this endless retooling of her message while John has already started the general election campaign. The only thing she can accomplish now is the Republican’s task for them by dragging down our strongest candidate. We saw in 2000 what happens when our nominee tries to run in crossfire. We get shot down.

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adam/cincinnati — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:09:24 GMT

VOTER FRAUD IN OHIO;

Please check it out. My entire family (mom, dad and brother) LIFE LONG DEMOCRATS, got to the polls this morning to find we'd been switched to registered REPUBLICANS?

We were all voting for Obama.

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Chuck, NY — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:09:25 GMT

As an Obama supporter, I have a really bad feeling this morning. True, he might split the delegates evenly from today’s primaries, but the fact remains Hillary is going on; probably all the way to Denver. Funny how fleeting ‘hope’ can be or the thousands of voices chanting “yes we can” can simply vanish. I am completely at a loss for thinking Senator Obama is going to either win the nomination or Presidency.

How can she live with herself? I have ‘Googled’ the internet for weeks trying to find the reference point which claims it was her divine right to be the nominee. She is the direct and sole reason the GOP will reclaim the White House, and probably reclaim control of Congress. How will she feel as a woman after the Supreme Court gets packed with a conservative tilt, and Roe v. Wade gets overturned? How will she feel when parents across the country lose another 3,000 of their sons & daughters in Iraq? How will she feel when the Constitution gets raped for another couple of years by the Repukes? How will she feel when gas hits $4 a gallon, and the economy is on the brink of depression? How will she feel when the world no longer seeks us out for leadership because we are so despised internationally? Of course by now, I already know she has no ethical backbone, so why should she care if she brings down the party and the country? How did we get to the point where comedian Limbaugh openly stresses for people in Texas to vote for her?

Yes, Hillary will be to blame. The sad thing is nobody will even fault her for the loss she is going to cause; just because she is a Clinton and a weeping woman. I had somehow thought that we had smarter people in this country. Obviously not.

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Len Holt, Clearwater FL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:13:17 GMT

So the Republican governor of Florida offers the Democrats a chance to un-disenfranchise their voters, and the Democrats want to turn down the offer?

Why not save a lot of money and let Gore, Bill Clinton, and Howard Dean just pick the Democratic nominee?

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Klaus — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:35:26 GMT

I just hope all Democrats keep in mind that, whoever wins the night (or if it's a tie), we're all on the same team working towards the same goals. We've got two brilliant people running for the White House, let's not tear one another down as the race goes forward, because whoever emerges as the eventual winner will be our only chance of ending the war and ensuring economic justice for average Americans. Leave the trolling and character assassination to the right-wing racists and misogynists. Best of luck to both Clinton and Obama!

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marla, CA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:37:15 GMT

I wish someone would talk about the potential shift in voters in states Clinton already won. I know a lot of people who voted for Clinton, but given the events of the past few weeks, now absolutely refuse to support her. I'm curious if this is nationwide trend, or something particular to my community. Clinton may no longer be able to take some of the states she won on Feb. 5, potentially weakening her overall position. Since nationwide polls have shown Obama beating McCain in a head to head, it seems like this might be an important thing to look into. It makes me worry that if she does win the nomination, however unlikely that seems right now, the Dems will lose. I wish she had thought more about the effect of her recent tactics on supporters in states who have already voted. It's not looking good in my community . . .

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Terry, Great Plains — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:37:19 GMT

You have to give the Clinton's credit . They like Bush have the Press in awe or at bay. No serious pressure for her to release tax returns( all candidates left in the race have released them), nor has she been held to light by convicted felons giving to her campaign. What I have heard the last week is how she is the victim. She even left open the lie that Obama is a musilim( he is not). The press wants a story . The story here is the comeback of Hillary. Regardless, of what Hillary wants the facts are she will not achieve the necessary vote totals to pick up enough delegates to ovrcome Obama. The end result will be great theater but the Clinton's will, as they did in the 2000 elections, hand the Presidency and possibly the Senate or House to the Republicans. Then the Devisive Hillary can arrgue for her mandates on Helath care but get nonbthig passed. In the end our country suffers. Hillary will write her memoirs and bemoan the right wing conspiracy and make millions on our backs. It is my beleif John McCain will beat her in the general. Her experience will be flushed out as nothing in comparison to his.( on Iraq he has the stronger claim of consistency than she does. All she can argue is it was Bush's fault. He can argue I took on Bush and got the surge in place to put Iraq on the path to stability. Of course no significant political markers have been met) He will go to the center and Hillary will be stuck with a depressed democratic electorate because she overturned the elected delegates. It's a shame that the Clintons believe the U.S. owes them the Presidency. They owe us a better choice than the same devisive politics we have had since the early 1980's.

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only the truth — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:38:06 GMT

to jaycee, ventura -

hear, hear. you're so right on the money! cheers1

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MKD — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:38:09 GMT

THE ONLY THING FOR WHICH HILLARY CAN LEGITIMATELY CLAIM 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS 35 YEARS OF SCANDALS.

...the Rose Law firm (a corporate firm for which Hillary is claiming 15 of her 35 years of her "experience"), Whitewater, Travelgate....and on, and on...

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Quinn, Houston — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:38:48 GMT

Just two weeks ago, Hillary had 20 point leads in both Ohio and Texas. After Wisconsin, everyone agreed that Hillary would need BIG wins in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania just to have a chance.

Today, it seems that Obama supporters are discouraged about the latest polls showing Hillary up by about 5 points in Ohio and tied with Barack in Texas. Think for a second. If the polls prove to be correct, she will have fallen well short of her goal and taken another step closer to mathematical elimination. The handful of delegates she would win today would only put a small dent in her deficit.

The only bad thing that will certainly happen if she wins either Texas, Ohio or both is she will spin it to make it look like Barack is the one who is suddenly close to losing the nomination. The Clinton campaign has done a great job the past few weeks of making her look competative despite her horrible numbers. The sad thing is that she has done it by throwing 3 or 4 negative attacks a day at Barack. Her attacks have become the lead story.

I believe that in the end, people will grow weary of seeing Hillary's constant attacks. She has all but given up trying to get people to like her based on her own merits. Instead she has decided to try to make people dislike Barack. That strategy can't work for long. I predict that even her own supporters will start to see her for what she really is.

Hillary represents all that is wrong with American politics. She will say absolutely anything to anyone to get elected. Her supporters need to know that for every one person that loves her, there are one and half people who loathe her. That has been the case since long before she decided to run for president.

As a lifelong democrat, I can say without a doubt that I have lost all respect for her. She has done enough evil in this primary season to make me stay home this November if she somehow becomes the nominee. If she knocks off Barack by continuing to bear false witness against him, I believe that she will still get what's coming to her in the general election. Then she can take back her cold seat next to Barack in senate.

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Gerry W, Vancouver, Canada — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:39:02 GMT

Finally, you have admitted that the media bias against Mrs.Clinton is a fairy tale. I can only imagine what the Clinton spin and the media would have said if Obama has lost 11 in a row. Yes, you have given her a chance to write her comeback story, and you let her and her surrogates get by with their distortions ( I am being polite)
And what a surprise, another flattering picture of Mrs. Clinton on your lead page
The Republican must be laughing all the way to the White House

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Bonnie — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:39:25 GMT

I realize Hillary is a fighter. It's just become painfully obvious that she is fighting for her own glory and not for any one of us. I feel for those who have so ardently supported her. It is hard to be disillusioned by something you believe in. I've been there, as in Bill Clinton. Americans, you had a chance to elect the best guy to come along in decades. Hillary Clinton or John McCain are your choices? That's a scary indictment on what our society has become. Oh, and thanks again to Jaycee and Chuck NY's for their posts. It is comforting to know there are some enlightened people our there. I like to remember that even a small light can make an impact in a great room of darkness.

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Mike, Upper Marlboro, MD — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:39:28 GMT

"And finally, for all the talk of bias against Clinton's campaign in the media, does anyone believe any other candidate could have lost 11-straight contests, be this far behind in delegates, and be simply two victories away from being back in the game? One thing the media has done is they've given Clinton every chance she wants to write her own comeback story. She gets another shot today."

Finally someone with guts to state the facts. If Obama had lost 11 contest in a row, the media would have written him off, but the continue to give Hillary seccond chances.

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Terry, Great Plains — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:40:50 GMT

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T Hussein — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:41:35 GMT

...both Texas and Ohio award more delegates in African-American heavy areas...

To the authors: you needn't try and imfluence the election by posing democratic faction vs. faction. Texas and Ohio award delegates based not on race but previous performance of the districts. Which makes sense. If you consistently win any district and lose others, why would you not weight the districts you win with more delegates; it's the only way texas dems could get anyone elected.

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DCuz, Grand Rapids, MI — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:42:08 GMT

VT = Obama by wide margin

RI = Clinton by 7 points

OH = Obama by 2 points (Hillary threatens recount)

TX = Obama by 4 in primary, wide margin in caucus

Hillary suspends campaign by this Saturday.

Perhaps a whole lot of wishful thinking in those predictions.

DCuz
www.RightCuz.com

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Rick, NC — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:42:24 GMT

I was fascinated to hear this morning that democrats are 2 and half times more likely than republicans to wuss out in bad weather and not vote...it is also why the dems don't win many national elections, we can't stand wussies...

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:42:24 GMT

Too bad Hillary isn't in Texas, also. In fact, it's too bad the four candidates didn't have a group party in Terlingua. They could've saved the Taxpayers a lot of money if they'd of had Willie stop by and pick the President for us. Replacing Diebold with Luckenbach, is my idea of 'Frontier Justice'. The way it is now, it's certain we'll get another Goat-roper like Dubya.

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Keith in Maryland — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:43:29 GMT

If anyone needs one more reason to vote for Obama, check out who's supporting Clinton...

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030308/content/01125107.guest.html

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John, Sc — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:43:41 GMT

This race is going down to the convention and here is why.

Using the CNN numbers Obama has 1184 pledged delegates to Clintons 1031. They need 2025 delegates to get the nomination.

The remaining states are as follows:

Mississippi: 40
Ohio: 161
Rhode Island: 32
Texas: 228
Vermont: 23
Wyoming: 18
Pennsylvania: 188
Guam: 9
Indiana: 84
North Carolina: 134
West Virginia: 39
Kentucky: 66
Oregon: 65
Montana: 24
South Dakota: 23
Puerto Rico: 63

For a total of 1191. Obama needs over 71 % of the remaining pledged delegates and Clinton needs over 80% of the remaining pledged delegates. Now looking at the past voting Obama’s highest percentage of votes was 79% in the Idaho Caucuses. He has only come close to that number in the DC primary with 75%. Clinton has only come close to 80% in the Arkansas primary with 70%. The average in most primaries has been about 60 – 64 % Obama and 36 – 40 % Clinton in his wins. Clinton 55%-60% and Obama 40 – 45% in Clintons wins. The pressure is on Clinton to win big while Obama also needs to win big to clinch this. They can split todays elections and still not come out with a clear winner. Unless one of these two can win and win big it goes till August.

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sotiredofignorance — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:43:52 GMT

I am of the opinion that no matter how this election comes out, Senator Clinton will find a way to spin it to her advantage and soldier on as long as she has the money. My hesitation about her is simply that I don't think the Presidency was ever intended to be the "right" of certain families. That, and she has shown poor judgment, her vote for Iraq being an example.

As to Jaycee...I like reading your stuff. It is thoughtful, and not just because we mostly agree. I like reading anything that causes me to think no matter if it is for Senator Clinton or Senator Obama.

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Wendy, Phoenix, Arizona — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:10 GMT

Research your candidate and find out for yourself whether or not they will lead this country back to greatness. Don't depend on the media or some other third party to do it for you. It WILL BE WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT! Trust me!

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Gustavo Herrera, Baltimore MD — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:45:47 GMT

To be sure, Hillary's burning need to take the White House is what's driving her campaign even now. But I wonder how much a role the media plays in keeping her campaign alive.

They love the "continuing battle story" almost as much as they love the "Comeback Kid" story. We've seen op-eds go one way, then the other. And Clinton can longer claim Obama gets favorable press treatment in light of coverage of the Rezko trial, coverage of the Candian parliament absurdity, et al.

While pollsters are predicting a turnout in excess of 3 million voters total, making the election results nearly impossible to predict, we're going to make predictions anyway:

http://www.nationalscold.com/2008/03/primary-predictions-texas-and-ohio.html

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Terry, Great Plains — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:46:27 GMT

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KW, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:46:59 GMT

PLEASE for GOD SAKE; don't destroy our democracy by stealing the one thing that makes us DEMOCRATIC. Our right to vote for who we choose. Adam in OH, I pray that this is not true and that we are not going to have our votes stolen and another FLORIDA is on the rise. WE CAN"T TAKE THAT AGAIN....SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING PLEASEEEEEE, we will be DOOMED AS AMERICANS..DON"T LET THIS HAPPEN for GOD SAKE.

ARE WE THIRD WORLD NOW?....ARE WE STILL THE SUPERPOWER?..who have we become....THIS is INSANE and SHAMEFUL the WORLD IS WATCHING.

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Andrew — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:47:16 GMT

Somthing for you all to think about here, in TX, OH, RI and VT, before going to the polls today. This is the Democratic Party Primary, and yet, at least one of the contenders, was an ARDANT Republican in their past life.

In fact this person was PRESIDENT of the YOUNG REPUBLICANS at their alma mater. So Republican were they, that this person passionately campaigned for Barry Goldwater. This person canvassed South Chicago looking for voter fraud perpetuated by...Democrats!!

Don't belive me? I figured. So check out Matt Taibbi and Rolling Stone's great article a few issues back.

So who is this arch-Republican? Why, none other than the candidate who is running on their long and storied "experience". Hillary Clinton.

If part of your experience is being a Republican, if part of your experience is holding the poor man down (read the South Chicago incident referenced above), then doesn't that part of your experience count too?

Whatever your proclivities to Obama are, my friends and fellow citizens, at least he was and always has been a Democrat. I would think that fact should matter quite heavily in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY Primaries.

Just a thought...

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domenica — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:47:29 GMT

The prospect of another five months of Kitchen Sink politics is de-moralizing. Thank you, Hillary for sucking the hope out of a generation.

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shirl — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:48:35 GMT

Hillary is throwing the kitchen sink and all the mud in her backyard at Senator Obama, and the U.S., being the nation that it is, will let some of that smear and slur stick on him. The Clintons' negative, win-at-all-costs, divisive, nasty, lying ruthless, relentless, dirty, me-first, dynastic-driven politics may yet win them the nomination. Woe then to the Democratic Party. Many of us citizens will believe, rightfully so, that the race has been won by cheating and bullying, just in the way the Republican swiftboating party wins elections. With Hillary, it will be the status quo, the way things are done in Washington, and a sure way to turn off millions of new Dems and senior citizen Dems like me. Even if the Clinton dynasty will return to the WH for eight more years (and who will clean up after them this time?), their dynastic rule will mark a deepening cynicism, apathy, and despair in the American people. It will not be change we can believe in, but more of the same old, same old we no longer want.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:49:15 GMT

IT'S THE DELEGATES, STUPID!! Doesn't matter who wins what, as long as one of them scoops up more delegates than the other. In America, the popular vote means nothing. (See 2000)Unless Ohio pulls its usual scams (thank you for your post, Adam!)the delegate count added up among the four races today will be the important thing to watch, no matter what the candidates' spin.

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B I L L — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:50:50 GMT

H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N . C O M

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John, Lawrenceville — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:50:58 GMT

I think that we will have another Clinton in office. The media have basically attacked Obama unfairly before Wisconsin and now they are like sharks in a feeding frenzy when it comes to attacking Obama in order to make up for their perceived sexism. The media do not want change, and they'll do everything to stop Obama, from calling his followers a cult to making false claims (not checking their sources about the Obama adviser who went to Canada). Of course, this message won't even appear on MSNBC's website because big brother at MSNBC will moderate it!

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KW, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:51:38 GMT

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ChiChi For Obama — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:51:53 GMT

Clinton does not need an election night party because when it's all over she will be done. There is no need to celebrate a loss.

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Luanne — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:51:53 GMT

It's been interesting to see Clinton try and claw her way back in this thing. But I have to say I have been profoundly disapointed seeing her attack a fellow democrat the way she has. She sounds like John McCain's running mate the way she spews out lie after lie about Obama. And that aint good for the Dems in November. She and her husband have lost any respect I might have had for them.

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Glenn Davis, Danville PA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:52:11 GMT

Barack Obama is nothing but a gas bag full of hot air. He is a product of the one of the most corrupt political machines in the country with Illinois politics. He's gotten his own sweet heart land deals similar to the Clintons. He talks about all the things he is going to do, without have any ability to show us what he's done - mostly because he hasn't done anything. The press has swooned over him, and hasn't challenged him on any aspect of his beliefs, plans, or (lack of) accomplishments. One media watch dog group noted that 84% of network and cable news outlets were positive about Obama. That is a remarkable number. In contrast, 53% were positive about Clinton. Obama is one of the least vetted candidates we've ever seen. The country would be in one sorry a** place if this man ever talked his way into the White House.

Speaking of gas bags, who is this Obama hack "jaycee"?

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Dee, Livonia, MI — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:52:32 GMT

Hillary has been bashed by the media--it's been ugly. Hard to watch some of you hit her hard. It appears as if the media picks apart everything about her. Why isn't Obama being hit hard with crticisms? What has Obama really been saying in his speeches? When Hillary is negative about Obama it's a big Media deal---but if he says something negative about her---the Media thinks it's just fine. The media wants Obama for some reason to be the Democratic Candidate. I'd like to see Hillary pull out some strong wins tonight.

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ChiChi, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:52:55 GMT

Did you hear about the little city called Obama in Japan. We need Obama City in USA.

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Donna Midkiff, Huntington WV — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:53:08 GMT

Hillary Clinton for Prez! Let's see what happens. Remember, we want someone who has the know how, the will power, and the skill power to get it done. Momentum is on Hillary's side and she is trying to tell you that she knows how to get it done!!!

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SD, CA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:53:22 GMT

Hillary set out to take this race into the dirt - and she has, now she's happy. Think before you vote. Is this REALLY where we want our leader to take us?
Voters, if you want change - you have to be a part of it! Show the world and the politicians that we are DONE with this kind of negative campaigning.

We are THROUGH with Clintrovian Politics!

Vote for Obama.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:53:47 GMT

Well worth repeating. Hey Ohio! Read this!

"*** McCain’s dream scenario: There are at least two people hoping Sen. Hillary Clinton does well tonight -- Clinton, of course, but also McCain. (Perhaps we should include the Canadian government, but that’s another story…) The last thing McCain needs right now is to face a de facto Democratic nominee by the name of Sen. Barack Obama."

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Maria Christine, Richardson, TX — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:53:53 GMT

I hope for the country's sake Hillary wins...

and you MSNBC have Obama advertisements posted all over the front page! your network is obamabiased!

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Roland Madore, Fort Collins, CO — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:55:12 GMT

Barack Obama: A Lesson in 21st Century American Politics!

Talk about continuing education and how average American workers will need to get additional training, on average, about five or so times during their working careers? For starters, I believe Bill and Hillary Clinton, all their advisors and campaign gurus, plus a lot of the talking head prognosticators and 20th century pollsters—if they’re to survive—will have to return for 21st century American politics refresher courses ASAP following this election cycle. This once-in-a-generation Barack Obama phenomenon will be the main unit of study for quite some time and have “those who really get it” re-write all the current playbooks of American politics, complete with brand new glossaries. And many of the current, yet passé labels will have to be re-examined and dropped from the political lexicons once and for all. One thing’s for certain: no one will ever take the truly-educated and Internet-savvy, grassroots organizers—of all stripes and strata—for granted again!

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ArthurW from Cville VA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:55:30 GMT

Interesting how a couple of weeks ago the bar set by the Clinton Campaign and the press was a lot higher- decisive wins for Hillary were predicted for their 'firewall'. Now even nail biting wins, or even a split in Ohio & Texas is being proclaimed by the Clinton camp as evidence that she should get the nomination. Unless Hillary wins decisively in both Texas and Ohio then the only way she can come in ahead in delegate counts is by seating the Russian Election like results from Florida and Michigan. It would be a sham and the super-delegates know as much. Look for the party leaders and super delegates to coalesce around Obama unless Hilary picks up substantial ground in the delegate math after Tuesday. Its not rocket science.

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Nashville_fan — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:55:34 GMT

"However, this is also an opportunity for Obama to knock Clinton out. If he doesn’t do it tonight, when does he do it?"

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Senator Obama has won 11 straight contests, most by by a margin of 15 points or better. Senator Obama has made up 20 point leads in both Ohio and Texas. No matter what happens tonight, he has ALREADY delivered the knock out blow. No matter where you put the goal posts, Senator Obama CLEARLY has the ball.

Obama '08

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John Wilson, Raleigh, NC — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:56:20 GMT

I simply am astounded by the lengths to which Clinton has gone to discredit Obama. She claims to be the ONLY candidate with experience or solutions. She characterizes him as "Missing in Action" and "Just a Speech." Who wouldn't vote for her, since her opponent is protrayed as virtually unqualified, misguided and incompetent!?

Well, Obama supporters are not buying it! We know that Obama has both credible experience and excellent solutions. What's more, he represents the Change that America wants and needs, while Clinton embodies the "status quo" - divisiveness and negative attacks!

Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island were all once in her column, as were most of the 50 states when this contest began (including Iowa). Now, they are virtually up for grabs. Again, her campaign is misrepresenting this as a "must win" for Obama! No, it is the Clinton campaign that "must win" or it will be in even worse shape than it is already!

Hillary, have you NO shame???

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gene — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:56:41 GMT

Google state primary polls-3-4-08, top four Ohio polls show inceases for Hillary over last. Thats more important then the number (even though she is ahead) as it shows that the late deciding are breaking for her. Now go to Texas and its the same, except not by as much. Two polls she was behind and now she is ahead. Obama had a terrible day yesterday, what with Rezko and the Canadian NAFTA disaster, the breaking vote should continue to move in her direction.He spent the entire day defending and "changing" his stories with the "hope" that they would go away. Same old Washington double speak, well such much for "hope'" and change.

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ChiChi, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:56:45 GMT

The FL Governor wants Fl delegates to count so that Clinton may win, because he knows if Clinton wins, then McCain will have a ball in November. He knows McCain cannot beat Obama so why not pay to have Clinton's rerun and win, so she can be the democratic nominee, then McCain will have an easy time in November.

But that said, if Obam campaigns in FL, Clinton will not have it easy there.

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Shawn, FL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:56:57 GMT

Chuck in NY,

I couldn't agree with you more. I pray that the DNC will step in and put a stop to this madness. It is obvious that Clinton is out for herself and not thinking of the damage she is doing to the democratic party. There is no way that she will have the delegates to win this. She is giving the race to the republicans.

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PAW, Oakland, CA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:57:01 GMT

What is now crystal clear is that Hillary Clinton will NEVER voluntarily suspend her campaign for the presidency.
The question is not going to be resolved on March 5, but on March 13 after Wyoming & Mississippi have gone to the polls.
Party leaders will be faced with two choices.
1. Watch the democratic party slip into a civil war whose first phase would not end until the dust had settled at the convention. And whose future, post convention would very likely be of two separate parties as the looser of the convention battle or their supporters would simply form a third party.
2. Look at the sentiments of the undeclared party leadership as expressed by Governor Bill Richardson when he set the bar this past weekend. He said that whoever has the most pledged delegates after Tuesday March 4 should be the nominee. If you follow this expression then what we should be watching for is a major swing in super delegates post March 4 to the candidate with the most pledged delegates. If this were to occur then the landscape post March 11 would look very different.
Obama would garner a total of 550 or so pledged super delegates. When coupled with his total of pledged delegates of about 1474-1500 post March 11 he would be within 40-70 delegates needed for the nomination.
In this scenario look to the party leadership to exert leadership influence over Hillary's 240 pledged super delegates to resolve the matter for the good of the party if Hillary were to still publicly buck the will of the party & the voters.
I agree that it is unlikely, barring a sweep by Obama on March 4 that there will be a resolution to the nominee question then.
I am equally sure that if post March 11 Hillary does not have the majority of pledged delegates the party will put the race for the nomination to rest long before an effort to split the party and declare civil war ever gained credence.

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iamtobe — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:57:14 GMT

I have finally reached the point where I can't vote for Hillary...and I am sure people are going to say that is horrible...but I need a President I respect. She and Bill have killed that for me. I have three sisters and an educated outlook and don't have any issue with women at all but Hillary is a bad person I have finally realized...

media bias ugh...Can everyone please put it in perspective...if any candidate had lost 11 contests, run this negative of a campaign, had there own campaign chair people with such venom, and who threatened the party and brought such negativity to the youth and next generation...they would have been forced out...Hillary has such a backdated...long standing influence behind the scenes ...If she wins...I am sorry (please don't get mad it just makes it worse) I see there is no point in the people not going along with the machine...sad.

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Joseph, New York — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:57:15 GMT

Chuck in NY:

Cheer up. The Obama camp is going to win. We've got the better organization and have run the better campaign. We may not seal the deal today, but we'll increase our delegate lead and the superdelegates will start moving our way. The large majority of superdelegates now know Obama is the better candidate and are just waiting for things to get settled before they get onboard. After today, when Obama has a 180 or so pledged delegate lead, the superdelegates will start moving to him in a trickle that will become a flood within a couple weeks. So cheer up and if you've got some free time help us make some phone calls!

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John Schuster-Craig — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:57:17 GMT

I live in Michigan. I did not vote in our primary because it was not sanctioned by the DNC, and because the candidates I would have been comfortable voting for were not on the ballot. I will be furious with the Democratic party if they allow the Michigan delegation to be seated in anything other than a 50-50 split. That's retroactively changing the rules, and is grossly unfair to thousands of voters in Michigan and Florida who chose not to participate in Billary's sham primaries.

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Patrick Fehring, Grove City, Ohio — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:57:52 GMT

Hillary will stay in. Obama is already showing that he can't handle the pressure by he way he reacted to reporters when he was questioned about the CTV report and Rezko.

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laurie Moultrie, Georgia — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:58:43 GMT

No Len, I don't think we should let Howar Dean pick the Democratic nominee, but I do think we should let the voters pick. Please, will all the Obama people stop chanting "get out". For years the nomination of both parties went to the convention, and was decided there. America seemed to survive that, despite all the talk of unity and devissivness that we hear today from the media. Let the people vote!!!!
Hillary all the way!!!

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dchak — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:00:25 GMT

hillary is too devisive and will surely cause the dems to lose a sure election - she should drop out now and unite behind the uniting obama

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Richard Hamill,Phoenix,Az — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:02:22 GMT

I am sorry but Obama cannot beat McCaine. Now the polls show Obama beating him but McCaine hasn't started to campaign against him yet and when he does he will clobber him good. Then the polls will change very fast!!!!

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itsyourvoicestupid, Phila., Pa. — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:02:32 GMT

Hillary has tried to drain the hope and inspiration of millions of voters who support Obama. Obama is the only candidate who inspired people to take another look at politics. Hillary has been a thorn and a awfully pitiful person during this whole campaign.

Hillary has tried to suck the life out of every person she could before this election today. The media has reminded of the sad fox news station who has attacked Obama since the beginning of his campaign.

The media has played into Hillary's whining about the coverage and has attacked Obama on his character.

1)Let's talk about Hillary and Bill's White House picture with Rezco.

2)Let's talk about why Hillary will not release her taxes.

3) Let's talk about her White House papers on her 35 years of experience.

4) Let's talk about votes not being counted for Obama in New York.

I could go on and on and Hillary's drama will never end. The media has thrown her an imaginery lifeline in the 11th hour, but it will not work.

The media and Hillary has once again tried to turn millions of people away from the power of their votes with all of their spin.

Obama is our only hope, vote responsibly.

Obama "08"

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Dan Kellish — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:02:41 GMT

adam, please try not to be thick.
This sounds like a mistake. Not to mention the fact- How would the little-old-lady poll workers know who your going to vote for ahead of time? And why would they care?
Just because Hillary is going to win OH, and you're bitter because the Obama-honeymoon is over, please don't start the whining and moaning.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:04:25 GMT

Len Holt, Clearwater FL (Sent Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:13 AM)
Consider why the Republican governor of Florida wants to give the Democrats in your state another primary.
Your state party was given a choice by the DNC. Leave your primary date alone or forfeit your delegates and they chose instead to shoot themselves in the foot. I am now supposed to feel sorry for you? I am now supposed to applaud your Republican Governor for his efforts to extend McBush's time without a presumptive Dem nominee? For Cats sake, people! Try to find a political bone in your bodies and lets win this thing!
Rush Limbaugh is telling his listeners to go and vote for Hillary to beat up on the candidate they DON'T want to run against. It is win win for them. The Democrats continue to eat their own tail or Hillary becomes the Nominee and they finally have a rally point for their splintered party.
THINK!

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Ravine Force, Kissimmee, FL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:04:36 GMT

As a Floridian, I'd say that we live with our decisions. The local democratic party decided to challenge its by-laws, well that's what we got, our punishment was that our primary did not count. Crist, the absentee governor, he of the programs to lower our property insurance and our property taxes, and failed on both, seems to be running for VP.

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C Travis, GA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:06:05 GMT

Hillary is the thorn in the democratic side.

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Enrique, Chicago — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:06:43 GMT

It is clear as day that Hillary feels entitled to the presidency. Over the weekend, she and her campaign have done everything from use scare tactics to her comments on Barack's relgion on 60 minutes to getting the Canadian government involved in our elections to making an issue of the Rezko trial.

Not once did I hear Hillary talk about what she would do for this country. All she did this past weekend was throw mud at Barack Obama. Is that the kind of leader that we want? We've had enough of Bush's divisiveness. We don't need for Hillary to do more of the same.

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Christina Robbins, Tahlequah Ok — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:07 GMT

I am a true Obama supporter, coming from Oklahoma I think he is correct when he says its time for a change.There are things that could definitly be changed and made better and I feel that he is the person to do the job. Today will tell the story in Texas and Ohio I think that it will be close but I still think that Obama will pull it off. All that I can say is that if Obama wins the nomination, McClain better get his game on and get ready for a hell of a fight because Obama is going to bring it.

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Andrew, Columbus, OH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:43 GMT

To Adam:

It doesn't matter what they say you are at the polls, you could still request a Democrat ballot. Is it possible that you voted in a Republican primary last time around? That would change your registration to Republican

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Lynette, NYC — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:08:16 GMT

Thank you Jaycee for not considering me a troll. And although I do not agree with you at all, your answer makes sense.

all i have to say to day is GO HILLARY..
Tomorrow is when we will all have something to say..

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Media Browski, Singapore — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:10:20 GMT

" Almost every time a candidate’s back has been against the wall, that person pulled out an important victory"

That may be the single most useless piece of political anaylsis since Edwards hair cut.

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Dan Kellish, Columbus, Ohio — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:10:26 GMT

and I know you guys are just trolls, but...
chuck, you ask how sad is it that "thousands of voices chanting “yes we can” can simply vanish"...
How sad is it that this is what can possibly decide an election? Obama is running a honeymoon of a campaign with Chris Matthews' "tingle up his leg." When will America realize that its the bitter Obama supporters with little to no issues/facts to back their candidate, who are actually the ones driving this campaign into hell? Just think: Rezko, Canada...

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Jennie, Woodbridge, NJ — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:32:09 GMT

Funny - this apology has not been televised by MSNBC OR CNN. Please report all of the facts.

News from the Embassy of Canada

Statement by the Canadian Embassy

Washington, D.C., March 3, 2008 — The Canadian Embassy and our Consulates General regularly contact those involved in all of the Presidential campaigns and, periodically, report on these contacts to interested officials. In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA. We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect.

The people of the United States are in the process of choosing a new President and are fortunate to have strong and impressive candidates from both political parties. Canada will not interfere in this electoral process. We look forward, however, to working with the choice of the American people in further building an unparalleled relationship with a close friend and partner.

Link

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Campdog — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:32:41 GMT

I don't understand why people continually insist that either Barach or Clinton should quit the process for the sake of the party? Anything Obama throws at Clinton or Clinton throws at Obama will be dress rehearsal for the general election.

As it stands today Barach does have a slight lead but there are many contests to be held and there is a lot of time on the clock. Just yesterday we learned of a conversation or meeting that was held by a key Obama adviser that brings Obama's credibility in question in a very big way.
Who knows what other things we might learn about the tactics his campaign has employed to pressure votes? We've heard that African American super delegates have been called by the Obama camp and arms have been twisted. Frankly, I think some of that is to be expected, but I am not the candidate that claims to be above all that.
Time will let us know if Obama is a man true to his word. I honestly hope he is but in this situation I will take his own advise and not trust his or any president's word. I want absolute proof and given the Canadian story, things don't look so good for him right now.

Hey Cincinnati Adam....I don't doubt that there is something amiss in the Queen City but why would you assume that Clinton has anything to do with it?

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Johnny Caruso — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:32:42 GMT

In a campaign where Hillary has constantly reinvented herself (who ever knows which "Hillary" will show up on a given day, she has had at least one constant: hammering away at her supposed experience and judgment. Now, the first thing that occurs to me is that if the Obama and Clinton campaigns themselves (which are the "action") are any indications, than Obama is so clearly the better nominee than Clinton that is it nearly laughable.
But here is the big thing that it seems almost no one is talking about: this thread of a core emphasis on experience and judgment vanishes into thin air against McCain. Then we are stuck with a campaign that has already proven its ineptness and tin ear somehow grappling with having to completely reinvent its nominee. God save us.

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KW, Philadelphia,PA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:33:17 GMT

Dan Kellish; Why would Adam lie about this. Was you there? I believe it. People are going to do whatever they can to stop Barak Obama and it's ashame. Where is the faith and trust from our Government. Conspiracies, lie, cheat, I thought that was for the enemies. Has the American people become the enemies of it's own Government?

WE Want FAIRNESS now!

Barak Obama for President of the U.S.A.

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Lynda Susans, Miami Florida — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:34:11 GMT

ChiChi, Atlanta, GA --- The FL Governor wants Fl delegates to count so that Clinton may win, because he knows if Clinton wins, then McCain will have a ball in November.

So, disenfranchising the Flordia voters is a good thing?

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Sierra, SF — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:35:16 GMT

Chuck, NY : '...As an Obama supporter, I have a really bad feeling this morning. True, he might split the delegates evenly from today’s primaries, but the fact remains Hillary is going on;...'

I hear you Chuck...
The signs seem ominous

BUT ....If Obama wins Texas, it's OVER
If Barack Obama can carry Texas, he'll win the nomination

He will get the Super Delegates, Bill Richardson, Biden, Edwards, Al Gore and Jimmy Carter

A LOT of Democrats want this thing wrapped up
A LOT of Democrats see how negative the Clintons are becoming
A LOT of Democrats see that Hillary may just want to fatally wound Obama to clear the way for herself in 2012

The party leaders won't let this happen
Obama JUST has to win Texas
Superior organization, greater enthusiasm and a better cause will triumph

OBAMA '08

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bill, okla — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:36:04 GMT

Isn't that rich?! I wouldn't trust the outcome of a Charlie Crist Florida re-do primary any more than the governor's motive. Oh, yes, it would absolutely be a boon to "Bomb Iran" McCain and perhaps Mrs. Clinton now that the Clintonmoblile is stuck in high smear. With luck Hillie will snap out of her "My Destiny Delusion" and withdraw as soon as she loses either Texas or Ohio.

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B.B.,CANTON,OHIO — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:36:53 GMT

BLAB..BLAB.BLAB. BLABB....BLABBB. OBAMA IS FADING "FAST", YOU'LL SEE,AFTER TODAYS VOTE.

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Joy for OBAMA '08 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:36:57 GMT

RightCuz: from your busy little fingertips to God's ears! LOL! It's not impossible. When I saw Hillary parsing the answer to whether Obama is muslim or not,I thought no she didn't. She is evil incarnate and she must be destroyed. If your numbers hold up, she will be. I'm so tired of her and her campaign and the disingenuous spin they offer day after day.

It's not going to be a good thing if she's allowed to continue. My hope is that she only comes away with RI and then I want her and her bunch to go away.

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RobK, Seattle, Wash. — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:37:25 GMT

Bill Clinton: "groaning and moaning..."

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=163167&title=moment-of-zen-bill’s-moaning

Hillarious!

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Frank, USA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:38:17 GMT

If Clinton wins OH and TX, then she has won every big state except Obama's hometown of IL. That, in my mind, makes her a better general election candidate and the pressure should be on Obama to suspend and throw his support behind Clinton.

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Sean, Detroit, MI — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:39:32 GMT

Those who have bought into this "media bias" are so gullible. Negative coverage of Hillary and Bill have stemmed from their own excessively negative and often deceptive campaigning (ever since Obama took the lead) and racially insensitive comments (leadup to, and immediately after, SC). Positive coverage of Obama stems from the fact that he does not attempt to put out 5 trashy things about Hillary per day, and the fact that he has gained momentum, packed rallies, fundraised far more than Hillary from ordinary Americans, and rattled off a few victories in a row (or maybe 11).

I think it's funny how we Obama supporters are being painted as "naive", blindly following a man without substance. Ladies and gentlemen, Hillary Clinton is a con artist. Those who have been unable to see through her enormous inconsistencies, hypocrisy and daily theatrics are truly the "naive" ones.

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Illinois Observer — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:40:47 GMT

Yes, Marla from California! You're absolutely correct, when you state, "I wish [Hillary] had thought more about the effect of her recent tactics on supporters in states who have already voted. It's not looking good in my community..." Here in Illinois, if Hillary steals the nomination, many Democratic voters will either vote for McCain or simply skip the Presidential election in November. Mrs. Clinton's antics could indeed win her battle with Obama, and then cost her the war against McCain!

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Laura, NY — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:10 GMT

I had been a great admirer of Hillary Clinton. Hence the word HAD. Unfortunately due to the tactics she has used in the last few weeks I have lost all respect for her. And if Congressman Charles Rangel continues to support her (as he says he trained her, and maybe that's the problem) I will lose what little respect I have left for him. a site that people shpuld go to is www.michaelbaisden.com to get the Full text of what happened in Canada that the media won't do.

Let's pray that the GOP doesn't take the White House agin, as Ms. Clinton seem intent on letting do. It's as do she feels if I can't have the White House neither can Senator Obama.

Frankly, this campaign has exhausted me.

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Mark, Farmington Hills, MI — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:33 GMT

While it's true that some of Obama's support has been buoyed by people who like his personality and speeches, it's also true that Hillary's campaign has been supported by people who like her based on name recognition alone, and/or the accomplishments of her HUSBAND, not her. Both are equally deplorable.

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Hot Rod — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:45 GMT

People seem to forget that the PA primary will be in Apr.
Hillary will not give in because she will have another win there.
Look for this battle to go on all the way to the convention.
The upcoming battle will make for great viewing.

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Ron Allen — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:54 GMT

First Read,
You need to stop censoring my posts. They are relevant to the threads and contain no inappropriate language. Only if I post with engative comments do you seem to be letting my posts get posted. If so, you have to be ashamed of bias -- either you do not like me to question Hillary's optimism or you do not want me to criticize the way the Clinton campaign is run.
Stop censoring or you have to work for government propaganda, like the censorship department of the Chinese government.

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McCain over Clinton — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:44:10 GMT

I am an Obama supporter but I have to concede that not only will Obama be absolutely destroyed today (he will lose Ohio by 15 to 18 points and he will lose Texas by 7 to 10 points) he has absolutely no chance to become the nominee. His campaign has completely fallen apart and he does not know how to handle being hammered on a national scale. It was exciting to see him rise up this past month but we are now witnessing the final destruction of his campaign. Clinton will win the nomination (although I don't think she'll get it until the convention) and she'll ruin the party in the process. All of the young people who participated will no longer participate (why should they?). Obama is an admirable man but he has absolutely no chance at ever becoming the nominee let alone the President. At least he tried.

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Diane Salix Iowa — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:44:28 GMT

A few weeks ago I felt I could have supported either Hillary or Obama should either of them win. After following the campaign tactics of the Hillary camp this past two weeks. I can't say I would vote for Hillary. I am disapointed in the " anything to win" trend I have seen. I hope it ends today. It is not good for our country or for the Democratic Party. I am hoping for an OBAMA WIN today.

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Wildy — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:46:01 GMT

Just something for Democrats to keep in mind.

I am a lifelong registered Republican who actually changed his party affiliation to support Barack Obama in the New York State Primaries. I have not switched back because at this point in time I don't believe the Republican Party has much to offer me. The Dems don't really either, other than Barack Obama.

There are a lot of people like me, regardless of whether they have actually taken the steps to change their party affiliation. There are many Republicans and Indepdendents who will flock to Obama in the November elections if given the chance.

And almost unanimously, we will flock to McCain if Hillary Clinton is the Dem nominee.

It's not just about supporting Hillary vs. Barack, it's a question of whether you want the White House or not. Impartial analysis suggests that Obama takes the White House, and has long coattails for Congressional elections. It also suggests that Hillary hands the election to the Republicans, as well as diminishing or relinquishing of one and possibly both houses.

So examine both your hearts and your heads, and vote for what you want more.

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(John Doe — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:46:57 GMT

You all aint seen nothing yet. Wait untill the republicans start their "vetting" of Obama. What do you all think a political election is all about??? Bragging on the other candidate? Grow up and get real.

If Obama loses, it's his own fault. He should have long ago come clean abour Rezco, William Ayers, his church and pastor.

Now we see where he admits that his campaign DID talk to a rep. from Canada.

CHange we can believe in? I don't think so.

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Greg, NH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:47:18 GMT

Hi Marla in CA,

It's only in these last few moments that many people are just now realizing what we were trying to say over the course of time... In short, if Hillary wins, it could cause a shift and the dems will stand a better than average chance to lose the White House in November. As a new candidate an strong support, at least Barack increases that chance and does have what it takes (with our support) to make serious changes.

Better a new and positive risk than no change at all! With the support that Barack Obama has been getting, we figure that he has a better than average change of doing a lot of good. The Repubs are really gearing up to deal with Hillary; and in that case, if she wins the nomination, it will be good for her ego but, what about November?

According to her "experience," she did a poor job contending with Barack. How will she fair against the repubs? For Barack, either way, he wins! He would have made such impression in this election that you know he will be president some day. But that will do nothing for Hillary if she wins the election. She gets the opportunity to say the made the nominee while she will get slaughtered by the repubs and McCain in November... Her win nearly guarantees the fate of the dems taking back the White Hous in November. Barack's win doesn't guarantee the White House but, it gives us a darn good, strong, "David and Goliath" chance!

That's been the problem Hillary isn't looking at this as a team effort; she's only pursuing what will make HER happy! Pretty selfish, ah?

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carbar, Marietta, GA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:49:28 GMT

Joe S. you are so transparent the stinch permeates my TV. Got dang it you made my BP rise yesterday and this morning. Who wants a President based on feeling sorry for a whiny, tearing up, $6K doughnut bill that begs the public to send her $$, and her math is atrocious - 35 yrs my foot! I'm a AA female and would have loved to have voted for her, but she showed what she's made of and I'd hope she could win without bullcrap!

Evey since Hitlary has chided your network regarding Shuster (which I felt was wrong) your network has been mischaracterizing facts regarding Obama. You and Hannity need to team up. As to the media being unfair about Hitlary - I'm asking myself on what?

Why haven't your network reported about the Harlem's voting error or reported about NM woman taking ballots home.

There are many out here that intends to do a voter blockout if Hitlary wins the nom, because there is no way on God's green earth I'd vote for her!

If she can't run a campaign she designed herself how in the heck can she run a country?!!!

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francesca, VA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:52:08 GMT

OBAMA'S Economic's advisor met with Canadians to assure them that his long talk against NAFTA WAS ONLY A POLITIC SPEECH.... OH, MY GOD!!!

Obama hasn't focus in Afganistan because he has be busy running for PRESIDENT... And he keeeps making speeches on AFGANISTAN....oH, MY GOD!!!

He is an agent of change, yes, he truly is!!!!

OBAMA HAS A DREAM FOR MORE SPEECHES FOR AMERICA
HILLARY HAS A SOLUTION FOR AMERICA

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Independent in CA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:52:20 GMT

If Hillary runs this fight to the convention it will forever change the Democratic Party as it is now.

I think The Clinton's want this for themselves and because they feel they are entitled to it - not becasue they feel it's really good for the rest of the country - and actually only the big states - all those people who voted for Obam in Feb. your state does not count to her.........I thought American was too smart for Bush Clinton Bush Clinton - but she has gone so negative On Obama - if she steals the nomination why will Obama's supporters vote for her? Are any of the super delegates supporting her considering that? Or are they all thinking about their cabinet and ambassador jobs?

The Clintons are everything that's Seedy and replusive about American Politics....their paying for votes in Nevada, the Robo Calls that went Barack Hussein Obama...not releasing their tax returns...they just sicken me. If she steals the election Mccain will win as the Obama Voters will feel cheated and disinfranchised and I predict few will vote for her. Is this really what they want? To leave the party in pieces?

They Sicken me......

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Dave St. Louis, Missouri — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:52:21 GMT

One thing I am pleased to see is all the younger people coming out this year; not only participating, but becoming educated.

This is very simple. This year I 'hoped' for a $20,000 bonus, but did not get it. I 'hoped' for a new car, and a lot of people I know rallied around me and also 'hoped' I could get the new car. They told me 'yes you can', but no new car, because the bonus I hoped for was too small.

The point is simple. Hoping makes people feel good, gives them a sense of purpose. Obama telling his supporter 'We can change, and I care about you' is the same old political B.S. we've had from at least 1 candidate in every election for the last 20 years. You can't say 'Hillary throwing the kitchen sink is old dirty politics that America is sick of', then rally behind a speech where the speaker says he cares about you, therefore the world will be safe.

Most voters never like the candidate they vote for entirely. I went with Clinton in my primary on super tuesday ( the real one ) because she'd be the best candidate for foreign-policy and foreign-relations. As much as I don't like her wholly, I can also say I would sleep soundly at night knowing she's running the show.

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Suzanne, Chardon, Ohio — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:53:34 GMT

I am so disappointed in Hillary Clinton's tactics. I spent much of 1998 and 1999 defending both Bill and Hillary to family and friends. NO MORE!! Her tactics in this election has turned me off. She has been ungracious and willing to employ any dirty tactic to win. She has had a choice to take the high road, but everytime takes the low road. All she is doing is helping the Republicans win in November.

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Ann in Virginia — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:54:03 GMT

There is not a rational person in the country who could agree with you Dan no matter who they support. HRC and/or her campaign have redefined bitterness. One thing for sure if this campaign is going to hell HRC is driving the bus.

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Klaus — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:54:12 GMT

Dan Kellish, it is not Obama supporters who are driving this campaign into hell, it's people like you (regardless of which candidate they support). The bitter trolling on sites like this and ridiculous exaggeration and distortion of every perceived scandal, be it directed at Clinton or Obama, is what's tearing the Democrats apart. Hateful people like you should just go join the Republicans, real Democrats (regardless of who they support) don't want people like you giving this party a bad reputation.

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michael,ca — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:54:35 GMT

this is all about the spin. the best spin came from a clinton supporter yesterday. they went from clinton must win tx and oh. too if obama does not win all four it proves his moentum is slowing. i laughed at that one for hours. the people in the clinton campign must be living on koolaid alone

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:55:07 GMT

Dan Kellish, Columbus

The fact is I have not heard facts or specifics from either candidate. Hillary states she is the most experienced to handle a national emergency phone call at 3 AM but the question begs, what specific time in her past has she been required to handle such an emergency and thereby makes her the most experienced? Her top aides were asked the same question yesterday and it took them a couple minutes to think before they could answer. And their answer, she has handled diffcult situations throughout her life. What is that!!?? Hillary's stump speeches are no better then Obamas. He is better at giving speeches but if you have listened to their stump speeches tell me just what specific and detailed plans have either offered beyond the typical overgeneralized positions on health care, national security, the economy, etc. None!! So based on your apparent support of Hillary you "think" or you can "dream" she has provided specific and detailed respones regarding the issues but the fact is she has not done so any more or any less then Obama. It gets a little tiring hearing Hillary's specific and detailed response to why she thinks she would make a better President from day one when she supports this position with nothing but I have been through tough times. What the heck does that mean. She has been a Senator a few more years then Obama, that's it. She was not Governor of Arkansas when Bill was Governor and she was not President of the United States when Bill was the President. So her "first hand" experience is basically limited to her time as Senator just as Obamas is limted to his time as a State and US Senator.

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Sally — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:55:13 GMT

Sadly, I think that Hillary and her deceitful and dirty politics might cost Dems the election in November. You wouldn't believe how many lifelong Dems that I have heard say they will not support her because of her dirty political tricks. She doesn't really care about the truth or integrity...she only cares for herself. I am a lifelong Dem, and I will vote for John McCain before I vote for Hillary Clinton. No wonder the party elders are getting worried and people on the right want Hillary to be the nominee.

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greg, NH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:55:35 GMT

Hey Shawn in FL,

I think that is the higher goal; if SHE doesn't make the White House to support the dems, the she would be darn if ANY other dem will! And so the rest of the world begins to wake up.. As a New Hampshire rez., this is what some of us have been himmering and hollaring about since she left this state. That was the impression in the dust she left behind..

This is what her supports don't get; she can win the nomination but, she's going to drown in the general election. And this thing she calls "experience" will NOT be able to do anything to help her..

At least Barack stands a better chance against the repubs in the general election.

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Matt, NH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:55:46 GMT

To think we would, or should, EVER be on a first name basis with our President is a farce. The very notion speaks of disrepect for the office and the people it serves. I hope the people can see through the deceit and reject Clinton for who she is; A CLINTON.

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Wake up and smell the reality — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:56:21 GMT

Obama's supporters will have his blood on their hands.

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Vote-against-Obama — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:58:29 GMT

Sign the petition against Obama.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election

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Barbara Kumbula — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:58:39 GMT

Hillary Clinton is one of the DIRTIEST politicians in modern history, and she takews pride in it. Even if she STEALS the nomination, many Democrats WILL NOT vote for her, and the DEMS will lose the White House again. No one that I know LIKES Hillary, because of her ruthless and unprincipled tactics. I WON"T be voting the DEMOCRATIC ticket this year. Howard Dean and his spineless cronies are going to be at fault for losing the election to the Republicans. They should have stepped in long ago and told Hillary to "GET OUT !!" Dean won't do this because Bill Clinton MADE him!

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Pat — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:58:41 GMT

I agree with the those posted comments noting that Senator Clinton has run a lousy campaign. I started off strongly supporting her, but was then very impressed with Senator Obama's proposals. Obama is running an amazing campaign, involving thousands of people who have rarely if ever been involved in the political process before. Clinton's campaign is right out of the GOP playbook-----she simply insists she's more experienced and qualified (without ever backing up the assertion, as far as I can see) and proceeds to attack her opponent. It's disgusting, and harmful to the party and, most of all, to the country. Senator Clinton has shown nothing more than an unbridled ambition coupled with a sense of entitlement to the job she seeks. At this point, if she manages to back-room politic her way to the nomination, I'll just stay home in November, although I initially thought I'd vote for whichever candidate won the nomination.

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crt, atl ga — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:59:04 GMT

Just to set the record straight, and for future reference, it's okay with the Democrats to disenfranchise voters if their states don't agree with the DNC on when to have their primary?

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Get over yourself — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:59:10 GMT

Obama's supporters need to get over themselves. This ridiculous notion that Hillary Clinton would be the cause of the Democratic Party splinting is just nonsense.

First of all the Party is already split, and it has just as much to do with Obama and the majority of the Black people in this country voting for him just because he's Black, and Obama's supporters running their mouths, and people in this country being tired of them running their mouths, as it has to do with Hillary Clinton.

Having confidence is one thing, but being cocky is another. Obama and his supporters are cocky, rude, and arrogant. There are just as many people in this country that are sick and tired already of Obama, his wife and his supporter’s rudeness, cockiness, and arrogance as there are people who don’t like Hillary Clinton.

Obama and his supporters keep telling everyone over and over and over how he is going to bring EVERYONE together, Democrats, Republicans, and Independent.

Yet he hasn't done it, why? Because he can't that's why. He and his supporters are all talk.

I've been saying for two months, if Obama is going to bring EVERYONE together, THAN DO IT ALREADY.

JUST DO IT

STOP TALKING ABOUT.

Obama can't even bring the ENTIRE Democratic Party together and we're supposed to believe that he will bring the whole world together, yeah right, whatever!

Oh let me guess, its Hillary’s fault, right?

Obama and his supporters stop making excuses for why Obama hasn’t brought the ENTIRE Party together.

Actions speak louder than words. You can talk about Obama bringing everyone together, but until he actually brings EVERYONE together, you’ve got nothing but empty words.

Obama, his supporters and the media are so in love with Obama and themselves that they can’t see the forest for the trees.

They refuse to believe that EVERYONE won’t fall in love with Obama and just throw their arms around him and his supporters and vote for him in November even though EVERYONE in November is NOT going to support Obama.

No one is calling my house conducting any kind of polls or surveys. If anyone were to call my house, my family’s houses, or my friend’s houses, they would get an ear full. They would be told that we will NEVER vote for Obama under any circumstance.

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:00:33 GMT

My mother and I have been arguing over Hillary for an entire year now. I have told my mother repeatedly that Hillary is polarizing...NOT because she is a woman, but because she is Bill's woman and has run a campaign as if the nomination was owed to her. Do I want a woman president one day?....Absolutely - Kathleen Sebilius comes to mind; along with Clare McCaskill and Barbara Boxer, Olympia Snow, and that's just my warmup. It has been over 10 weeks ago since I have had my ephiphany with Hillary. I just feel that Bill wants this more that she does and everything she does is about and for Bill. I cannot support a Hillary Presidency.

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JR West Chester OH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:00 GMT

I just finished voting in the Cincinnati suburbs and I was asked whether I wanted to vote Democratic, Republican, or no party. Ohio has open elections where you can vote for anyone regardless of party affiliation. Rest assurd Adam, you can vote for the candidate of your choice.

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Jeff Emerson, Wichita, Kansas — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:13 GMT

The media needs a new example of a state Obama won that he "obviously can't" win as the nominee. I'm from Kansas. We supported Obama at 67% with twice the turnout the republicans got. Our governor is a democratic you may have heard about (Kathleen Sebilius). Something real is happening out here and Boeing (HQ in Wichita) just lost a $35 billion tanker deal to AirBus. Obama can win Kansas (and Missouri) but ONLY if he's the nominee. Otherwise, red will be the color the heartland gets painted in November.

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Independent Voter, Stuart, FL — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:20 GMT

Ravine Force, Kissimmee, FL.

As a fellow Floridian I positively agree with your post.
However my opinion is the DNC played Hardball with FL but FL did not capitulate. So we take our "lumps" and move on.

Is Crist running for the VP spot? Certainly looks like it to me.

In my opinion ...No second primary and the Delegates should NOT be seated or counted. If Obama had won FL would Hillary be asking that the Delegates be seated and counted?

I think not.

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely!!!

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Dawn, Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:27 GMT

Marla

DO not be so sure about Clinton supporters abandoning her. Do you think we will all just fall at obama's feet ????????? and vote for him ????

Most Clinton supporters I know DO NOT INTENDED TO EVER VOTE FOR obama EVER. Get it straight we do not worship your canidate.

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Theresa Altamont, NY — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:56 GMT

I have always heard the expression about voters being convinced to "drink the sand".. but until now have not really bought into it. Wow...young-uns, when you have been around long enough you will see right thru empty headed all-air no-substance candidates like Obama. He's a light-weight who uses air time to discuss how his mommy,...er, wife can command a room with her styale and height and hairdos!He has NO plans in place to back up his yammer, nuttin but a bunch of cotton-candy Platitudes. Guys, this country is in BIG trouble...huge. We need a strong, intelligent person at the helm. Maybe some cant remember back to all of the Clinton years, but admit it or not, those were great years for the people of the USA. Dont believe me..check the records. Parents were able to put thier kids thru college AND still eat! Underpriviledged kids got a chance to end up someplace besides prison, and a mom could go to work knowing her children had good care. Jobs were plentiful and our kids werent given KETCHUP (thanks so much Ronnie and Nancy for that sickness!) as a veggie on school lunches. What we Do NOT need now is another one of Oprahs HOBBIES, she has bought everything she wants for her friends...Oscar's, divorces, and now she wants to by her little self a nice brandy new President. She's fooled alot of people for a lot of years..dont be fooled with this..he does NOT have the goods. Did U see him on National TV storm off and sulk..twisted face and all after a big loss. This little boy needs to "GET IT"...The President of the USA needs some guts,needs to be tenacious, needs to be brillaint...we have the woman who has that, lets not throw our chance away to have a president (yes, with experienced back up..proven also to have the goods) in favor a man who MAY have the goods in a decade if the women in his life let him take his blows. I respect your opinions...and hope you will at least consider mine. Blessings!

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molly - florida — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:08:14 GMT

GO HILLARY !!!!
Keep Up The Good Fight - Yes YOU Can!!!
With all the negative media coverage Hillary got for the past 3 mos. - just now is the media is starting to ask Obama questions concerning his background. The media gave Obama all the glory - and looked for negative reports on Clinton. Finally - the media is reporting on a fair basis. Maybe now with some real facts - not opinions - Hillary can win.
Hillary is by far the better candidate in experience, leadership and skills - he gives a good speech, and can rally a crowd - but so can a rock star - we need the President of the United States!!
GO HILLARY !!!

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Ericka Norfolk, VA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:07 GMT

I USED to be a Hillary supporter, that was until the Clintons showed their true colors. If Hillary wins the nomination I will stay in my bed for the general election. She is an unethical person, and she stands for EVERYTHING that is wrong with American politics. Instead of her spending her time before today informing voters, she spends her time throwing the kitchen sink. I feel sorry for the folk who spent their hard earned money to contribute to her failing campaign and her brand of politics.
Just like you Clintonistas would die before you vote for Obama best believe the same holds true the other way around.

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Kristi, Huber Heights, OH — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:27 GMT

You all seem like you personally know these people running for office. Give me a Break!!! They are all full of typical "political" responses. How do you truly know who is being honest about their agenda? Only time will tell, after the winner is in the seat in the fancy house. Look what happened the last two elections? Time for change? Why didn’t people vote for change last time? I really HOPE that the next President of this country, whoever that may be, acts like a human being and takes care of this country first!

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Na Kand — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:49:59 GMT

Adam from Cincinatti- In Ohio, it is an open primary. Even if you are registered as a Republican, you can request a DEMOCRATIC ballott and vote for Obama.

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nuanced — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:52:42 GMT

jerry of Corpus Christi

Where are you? I am so looking forward to your ascerbic comments of what't happening on the ground in Texas this election day. Are you going to a caucus?

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Becca — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:53:40 GMT

Hillary is the one you should support. She has great political experience and some wonderful people supporting and advising her. I really do think that in our world we need to have a female in the oval office. What a refreshing thought. There's always been a man in charge. Let's give women a chance and we'll see how our world can be led in the right direction. Hillary all the way!

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Lee in CA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:39:22 GMT

It's extremely difficult to understand what you consider printable, and what you don't.

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Woman in SoCal — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:39:29 GMT

I don't like Mrs. Clinton. But more than that, I have zero respect for her. She's wooing the woman vote, but yet she stood up in front of the cameras when her husband, our president, was caught with his pants down in the Oval Office, and said she stood by her man. She would have had my lifelong loyalty if she had made a statement that affairs are NOT okay, and they had a lot of hard work ahead of them to keep the family together. THAT would have been the message to send to the citizens of America, the women of America. THAT would have been the morally correct thing to say to our children. I truly believe now, as I did then, that Mrs. Clinton was more interested in the power she held being married to the President than she was about the message she was sending to the many women struggling with the same issues. Mrs. Clinton is a fake. She lives in a fake marriage. She has lied and faked her way through life, and now expects America to reward her for that. If Mrs. Clinton makes it to the general election, I will vote for Senator McCain.

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Robin, Spokane, WA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:42:31 GMT

Hillary Claims to be ready on day 1. Seems to me you only need look at how ready she was for this primary battle. According to just about everyone at this point, she surrounded herself with the the wrong people, who gave her the wrong advice on running her campaign. She could or would not admit that things might not turn out as planned. As a result she had no contingency plan in place to fall back on when things didn't quite turn out as she had planned on Super Tuesday. She spent too much campaign cash unwisely. She didn't have enough volunteer support on the ground in the primary states after Super Tuesday.

She touts herself as a candidate for change, but if you look closely, everything I have just detailed that has gone wrong in her campaign practically echos verbatim what has also gone wrong in Iraq, starting with faulty intelligence, continuing on with unrealistic and sometimes arrogant expectations in spite of warnings of experts in the Muslim world, and sending an insufficent combat force to prevail.

With Mrs. Clinton in charge, having seen her "battle plan" for the primary, how can you possibly think anything would change?

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Tracey Cole, Jamaica Estates, New York — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:45:06 GMT

For anyone that has fallen for this latest act of Hillary Clinton's, I have two words for you: "PRIMARY COLORS". Remember that movie? Where pseudo Bill Clinton (Jack Stanton), sent out his goons to dig up dirt on his opponents (whether it was true or not), held on to the documentation, and then released the information to the media at the precise moment the campaign thought they could inflict the most damage? Well this week's antics from the Clinton campaign played out just like a scene from that movie!!! Talk about life imitating art!!

The sooner the voters realize HillBilly's claim to fame is just that - A CLAIM - with nothing substantial behind it, the better off we'll be. The former First Lady (and that is exactly what she was) does not have the right to flaunt her "experience" into the faces of America. She has no real experience, unless you count rolling over at 3 am, saying, "Bill, the phone is ringing - answer it...", as experience.

Her self-important, pompous, "I am the anointed one" attitude is not only annoying, it is damaging. Damaging to the voting process, the election, the Democratic Party, America and to our future.

The fact that she has the audacity to state that she's “just getting warmed up”, after 11 straight losses is alarming. We should heed the warnings and the red flags.

Hillary Clinton has showed us many faces within the past few weeks. Thus proving she has the chops to be an actor, as well as the nerve to try to dupe the American public. Be sure you know which Hillary you're voting for - there are so many to choose from. If elected to President, Hillary is going to remove her mask. Behind that mask is a mean, close-minded, closeted Republican. That's the scariest role we'll see her in. It's a recurring role, with a FOUR YEAR run. Dig it. :-(

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT '08!!

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Ladean — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:45:11 GMT

Reality sucks. The Party (Dems) is unwilling to let Florida vote? Why?

How are we ever going to get beyond the cappy election process - Senator Clinton can declare this to be a decent good race if she elects to, however, as dillusional as she is, she has caused irreparable damage. I do not care if she is nominated, I will NEVER get behind her. She is the epitome of all I loathe. There is nothing that could get me to vote for her and her husband. Bush for another 8 years would be better for us. At least there we know he is an equal opportunity hater. He hates us all. He has positioned us to loose all rights detailed in our constitution. He at least has the excuse he is an idiot puppet controlled by others. Senator Clinton does not have that excuse. Her's is more sinister, more deliberate. She is deceptively hateful in that she hides her true colors, purposefully instigative and divisive. She has stirred racial unrest at every turn. She pits us against one another. When it suited her fancy she tried to manipulate all of us with her attempted virtual terrorism with her ads in an attempt to garner votes.

How can we ever attain unity after this? Some of the wounds run very deep. Some of the hurts will not be swept away. She has refocused many through the trials and tribulations of past experiences based on race, to question again. Some issues we had gotten beyond, and like a dying fire, Senator Clinton, stirred the embers, to garner votes, not caring about the consequences the rest of us have to live with.

I didn 't realize Mexicans hated Black people so very much. Nor did I realize the Asians hated us either until Senator Clinton pointed that out. It made me look at it again.

I won't forgive her for this. How do we get back what she purposely is destroying? Unity. Why can she not merely cede there are minor differences between her and her rival? Why not keep it positive? Why does she resort to negativism. Negativism murders.

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Marcus Lake — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:45:55 GMT

Maybe SNL should do a piece on you three.
That's right; Larry, Cruley, and Moe has already been done.

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no billary, — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:46:24 GMT

hill used to be a republican....

bush...clinton..bush...clinton!!!??

what happened to her tax returns??

obama 2008

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Angela — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:47:23 GMT

a) I am Canadian and there was a memo, at least according to our UNBIASED news agency. The Canadian gov't is scrambling, really....don't read too much into the denial. Our conservative govt has their own hands full with alleged scandals.

b) We have seen the last few days that Obama is pretty pathetic at playing defense. If that is any indication of how he is going to handle negative attention then he is TOAST in the general.

c) 11 in a row would be a valid arguement if the dems had 'winner take all' states. But they don't and delegate count is too close. If Sen Clinton had as few delegates as Huckabee then you could make that case.

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Dan Cavender, Rolla, MO. — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:47:53 GMT

This election is not a beauty contest!! I am a young, white male from a rural area and I have supported Hillary since the beginning. I was open minded about Obama and have no bias against him, but come on, he is not ready to do this. It is very disappointing to see so many folks that think Obama is who we need running the show. We need a tough, hardnosed dem. that can push back against the GOP and get results. If Obama gets the nod and eventually 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., he is going to get a rude awakening. Obama may want change but he won't get it. Obama in 2016. Make the right choice folks, Hillary in 2008. Come back to the light!

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beth, brooklyn, ny — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:48:29 GMT

Hillary needs to go away ASAP. As a former supporter of hers, I'm disgusted that she's willing to have her supporters pick McCain over Obama in the general-- yes, she practically endorsed John McCain. She's purposefully ripping apart the party for her own gain. I'm appalled at her poorly run and nasty campaign.

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David, San Diego — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:49:40 GMT

The longer the Democratic race forthe White House continues it only helps the Republicans. If Hillary wants to continue to have influence within the Democratic Party she should graciously bow out on March 5th and help heal the wounds she has inflicted on Barack Obama. And, if anyone is to blame for her current dire situation it is not the media it is her husband who inflicted the race card before the primary in S. Carolina. As a life-long Democratic who voted for Bill in '92 and '96 I was very offended and turned off.

Good luck Barack!

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Ken Melse — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:50:01 GMT

Glen Davis,
A little angry aren't we? Ever think that maybe, just maybe its because of all those negatives Hillary brings into the equation? Did it ever occur to you that there are more positive stories because he has more positive attributes. You go ahead and claim mistreatment when your candidate is getting the free ride by the press. How long does it take for your tax preparer to issue copies of your tax returns? She's really trying hard to release those white house records as well. Go drink your Clinton kool-aid with a sippy cup since you're so mentally challanged. The sad thing is that Clinton's Kool-aid and the idiots that partake in it could cost us the election.

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Nancy, Las Vegas, NV — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:50 GMT

I do not understand how anyone can vote for Clinton after the past few weeks. Unreal the lengths this woman will go to just to win - and the heck with the voters! Did she not hear Dean's warning? Did she ignore Richardson's warning? I guess so...she's just not listening to anyone in the Democratic Party!

It is my hope that, once Obama delegate victory has been released tonight, the superdelegates come out in droves to drive that last nail in her campaign - Democrats do NOT need a candidate that campaigns for McCain over their own party!

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Gail Laguna Beach Ca — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:22:09 GMT

It's time for Hillary to end the smear campaign. I have lost so much respect for her and Bill Clinton because of their campaign's behavior the last few days. Dirty politics as usual. If Obama had lost 11 contests in a row we wouldn't even have 2 potential nominees. He'd be OUT. It's time for her to end this, let the Dems regroup and start focusing on beating McCain instead of each other.

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Cindy, NY, NY — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:23:03 GMT

Hi, new poster here.

Since most of us are Democrats, I don't see why we're attacking each other (by the way, I'm still registered Republican, but Dem all the way).

I think everyone of us can agree that Obama and Hillary have basically the same position on EVERY issue, with slight diffs in health care. Otherwise, we should all be ecstatic with EITHER candidate.

The only thing I've heard that troubles me a bit, is that the states that Obama has won traditionally vote Republican, so even though he's won those states in the primaries, he wont win them in the general election. If true, then maybe Hillary is the only chance to beat McCain.

Additionally, I think McCain is quite middle of the road, and so long as he doesn't pander too hard to the right (or does pander to them and then laughs at them once in the house), I wouldn't really mind him either.

For the first time ever, I'm completely content with any of the candidates.

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Ed Applebaum, Houston TX — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:23:10 GMT

I would like to send an email to Chuck Todd; would it be possible to hav his email address?
Thank you.

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William, Cincinnati — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:23:58 GMT

Adam in Cincinnati. It's pretty easy to correct; all you have to do is tell the polling officials that you'd like a Democrat ballot. You sign a piece of paper and you get a Democrat ballot. If you voted Repub in the last PRIMARY, you'd be registered as a Republican. Don't be confused with the general election where they would have no idea that you voted Democrat or not.

This is not voter fraud, just uneducated voters.

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Mel — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:27:34 GMT

Even if Hilary does win Ohio and Texas tonight other then Penn. (Which is a toss-up) she would lose all the remaining primaries.

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Crys, Houston, TX — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:28:17 GMT

what we have here is simply the clinton's trying to put america in the middle of their unhappy marriage. she's what - 68? why aren't they trying to spend these years of their life loving each other? i know why she is fighting so hard to win this thing - because she knows without it, she'll be forced to be a WIFE to her husband - and we all know neither of them really want that.

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Frank R, New York, NY — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:57:04 GMT

Hello all,

How can someone believe in a person that cries because she can't win?... I don't get it... she really beleive that she is "supposed to be president"

she's a crybaby, she is acting incredibly immature at the prospect of losing... she should go home and never come back out

Obama '08

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Reggie,Landover,MD — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:57:24 GMT

To all those who think they know the truth……take a look at the attached link it is a compiled side by side comparison of Senators Clinton & Obama actual work as listed by the US Senate website……have fun reading the truth

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

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Bevie, Virginia — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:57:39 GMT

It's about time Clinton pulls out the punches against Obama. He's had a free ride for months. If all of his suppporters find it hard to believe that Clinton raised all the quesitons just tell me what are you gonna do when the Republican war machine starts it against him. They will tear him to shreads because he does not have enough experiance to deal with them or their tactics. If Obama wins the nomination we will have McCain as our our next President. That will be the first time I will vote for a Republican president becasue I can't in good conscience vote for an inexperiance Obama.

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Piper, VA — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:58:48 GMT

I have nothing against Hillary personally. And I really believe that she and Barack have very similar ideas. The problem that I have with Hillary is the baggage that she brings with her. We have had too many years with one side truly hating the other. The republicans really hated the Clintons, whether it is earned or not, we cannot live through that again. Now the Democrats really hate Bush, and possibly for good reason. We NEED a person who can bring people together.

Obama!

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Mara, Florida — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:58:50 GMT

I am appalled at all these people who are saying the Florida democrats should not have their votes counted because God Forbid it might hurt Saint Barack. I am an American citizen and a democrat born and bred and I have as much right to have my vote counted as anyone else in this country. The DNC disinfranchised Florida democrats because the law in Florida stated when our primary would be held, not because we were just naughty children thumbing our noses at the establishment. There was nothing we could do as democrats living in a bright red state to change it. So instead our party decides to punish us like criminals by taking away our vote. It is unconstitutional in my opinion.

And every one of you Obama supporters would be screaming to count our Florida votes if he had been the one to actually win.

And to all you Obama supporters, what specifically is his plan for turning this country around? Because charisma and pretty speeches sure won't get us far.

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Steve Duncan, Lakeport, California — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:20:26 GMT

The first comment by Jaycee is impressive. Kudos to you sir. I clicked on the link to the daily KOS and read the piece written by Grassroots Mom. I then went to the Library of Congress website and looked into the records of both Clinton and Obama for myself (although I went back further than she did). Ultimately, I came to the same conclusion:: Obama not only has the edge on good ideas, but has introduced more of them in Congress as well. He also appears to garner more support for the bills he proposes. This speaks volumes because our next president is going to have to be able to get bi-partisan support to get things moving. Who can best do that? Check the record for yourself. One last thing... We Democrats really need to quit with the name-calling - it serves no purpose. Doing so plays right into the hands of the opposition. Why self-destruct before the convention?

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Richard — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:41:14 GMT

If Sen.Clinton wins the Dem. nomination,come Nov...I'm a Republician....