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K"Hussein"J, Dallas, TX — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:35:25 GMT

"Despite aides insisting on a conference call Tuesday night, held to call attention to alleged irregularities in the Texas caucuses, that they embraced the caucus process, the senator has made it clear she's not too keen on a system she believes leaves too many people out -- like nurses, members of the military, people who work the night shift or who can't get off their day shift and the very old. (And it is important to note she is not the only one who shares that view.)"

This is such a misstatement on her part. It is a well known law here in Texas (and maybe elsewhere) that the employer must allow time for their employees to vote and/or caucus if the employee requests the time. Her statement of people being disenfranchised here in Texas is simply not true. And now she's threatening to sue because she knows in her own demented mind that she's going to actually lose Texas, afterall. She is truly a piece of work.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:36:26 GMT

Don't worry Wyoming. She will wait until she loses to call you irrelevant.

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Rick,Ky — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:37:53 GMT

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i can't STEAL vote's when they have a caucus! Can Diebold count the votes for ME?

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EdAz — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:38:04 GMT

AGAIN, Obama will demonstrate his superior 'organizational & leadership' skills in this caucus, as compared to Hillary. It is interesting to note in this article that Hillary's exaggerated claim of 'knowing how to win caucuses' is just another empty claim by Hillary. HILLARY IS EMPTY.
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Becky, Scranton, PA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:40:22 GMT

Well, if she does pull out a victory I guess Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, and other Clintonites will say it doesn't count because Wyoming is a solidly Red state.

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H. Freeman, Richmond, Indiana — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:42:31 GMT

Hillary Clinton will say anything and do anything to get elected. She is not--like her husband--a person who can be trusted. I'm a life-long Democrat but if Hillary is the nominee then she will not get my vote.

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Nashville_fan — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:54:34 GMT

You know what?

Before this, the Democratic nominee has been elected by a caucus in one all white state and a primary in another. Almost NONE of the other states got to vote. All of these arcane processes were not invented this year, they have been in place for YEARS.

Now, if EVERY STATE doesn't get to vote, it's not fair? Heck, almost NONE of the other states have EVER gotten to decide the Democratic nominee!

So while these may be valid points that need to be addressed, as John McCain would say: My friends, I've got some news for ya : You have to play the cards you're dealt!

I think Senator Obama has played the "smear card" dealt by the Clinton campaign brilliantly . . . Clinton has used the "fear card" to her advantage . . .

So how about the Clinton campaign stop whining and let's get on with it, eh?

Obama '08

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JW, Michigan — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:55:43 GMT

sounds like she downplays her losses (including those on the horizen), but she makes March 4 look like a "knock-out victory" when all she got was a tradeoff of RI vs Vermont, a always expected win in Ohio, and a delegate "draw in Texas". She netted 12 or so delegates (out of 360) and that to me is at best a marginal win -- lets not forget that 2 weeks prior she was expected based on the polls to get 50-60 plus delegates on Mar 4. In response to this I say "SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON" for making such a big deal about modest results! Now when Obama wins, it will be "no big deal".

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Francis Haines, Shoreline, WA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:56:28 GMT

Yes, Hillary intends to keep going until she reaches the White House. It's not about what's good for the country, it's about her enormouse ego. She's comitting political extortion, having decided that if she can't win, she'll destroy everyone who opposes her. It's the height of arrogance and shame/

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OBwan, IN — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:56:54 GMT

Amazing - she of all the name recognition.
I am sure that she will send in Bill and no interview Chelsea.
If you campaign your fair game - come on NY media (MSNBC, CNN, CMS, NBC, CNN). We want to know what Chelsea really thinks.

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gm hussein, jupiter, fl — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:00:48 GMT

There she goes again, always the victim. And if she should win, then spin spin spin as if she won the lottery. Go away Hillary, I'm tired of you and your campaign, it gives me nightmares if should you win the WH. One can only imagine what another 4 yrs of lies and hubris would be like. Ergh!

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A.Brocco,Albuquerque,NM — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:04:16 GMT

Caucasing is hard, Hillary!
Fortunately for you, dirty politics is EASY.
Lying is even easier.

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Brian Crooks, Naperville, IL — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:11:42 GMT

Really? A Caucus is not an election? On the contrary, I appreciate caucuses more than primaries. In a caucus, participants are more passionate and dedicated to their candidate, and lively debate takes place. I've caucused twice in Iowa and I can honestly attest that those who caucus are more informed and involved than the majority of those in primaries. And for Hillary to suggest that caucuses are unfair because some people can't come, it works both ways. It's not as though Barack has no supporters that work during caucus times, or who are old or go out of town. This is just another example of the Clintons disqualifying certain contests as "not real" or "not legitimate." It's that kind of thinking that de facto surrenders smaller states to the Republicans in November.

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john st.clair,mo. — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:16:31 GMT

If Barack Obama was white,would he get as many black vote.This country is not ready to be led down an unknown path;but,rather led by who knows how it works and can get-er-dun. I pray we as a nation don,t forget the prosperity of the early 90,s.

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Nancy, Oklahoma — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:21:03 GMT

Texas should have never been announced as a "win" for Hillary. I believe the media did this because it enables the race to continue. When all is said and done Obama will have won Texas by three delegates-that includes the results for both the primary and the caucus. The media needs to take Texas off of it's win column for Hillary.

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pt, Kennebunk, Maine — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:22:16 GMT

I agree with Hillary this time, "she's no quiter."
she won't quit complaining about the process.
she won't quit going negative on Obama and calling it "politics"
she won't quit working the press to tell the story the way she wants it told.
she won't quit hiding things and claiming she's "too busy" to release taxes and other documents.... and,
she won't quit tearing the party apart for her personal means....... so, I agree with her...... "she's no quiter"

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SS — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:23:02 GMT

Extreme liberals dominating democratic parties caucuses is somewhat similer to christian rights hijacking of the republican equelent in 2000 with one difference-they still couldnt turn out enough people to dominate in the primaries where an average democratic voter so far has shown a preference for Hillay however small that may be(and increasing).its a disturbing trend for Obama campaign that with all the money,young tireless and energezied liberal base and the swooning media they still havent won a single bigstate except for Obamas home state.They havent been able to muster enough support from any of the key demographics for a democrat(women,working class men,hispanics,other minorities including asian and other)except african american and student crowd.
This is not a winnable propasition some GE where you have a moderate republican running who is a favourite of many of the above mentioned demographics except for his pro-war stand.Do not forget that if democratic primary process was any similer to the republican process or like the GE (just check the map of who won congressional districtwise in texas and Ohio-its a sweep)Hillary wouldave been the nominee already.So there is nothing unfair about her claim and its time for democrats unite behind their only fighting chance against McCain.
http://middlebrainedmusings.blogspot.com/

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GO OBAMA, IOWA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:26:48 GMT

I AM SURE THAT SHE IS DOWNPLAYING WYOMING. SHE IS DOING THAT BECAUSE AFTER SHE LOSES SHE WILL JUST SAY THAT WYOMING DOESN'T COUNT, JUST LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER STATES THAT SHE HAS LOST. THE ONLY STATES THAT MATTER ARE THE ONES THAT HILLARY WINS. THE REST OF US DON'T EVEN NEED TO BOTHER TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER, IF SHE IS THE NOMINEE, BECAUSE OUR STATES DON'T MATTER TO HER ANYWAY.

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June — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:30:19 GMT

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary,
What can we say, you make up more excuses than anyone I know.
I love the one about being out of town, so when the people don't vote in November its going to be because they are out of town. Give me a break, there will always be reasons people cannot vote or join in on a caucas, I may self did not go to ours but really wanted to, do you want me to give you my excuse so you can add it to your list. Quit making excuses for everything, we are so tired of hearing it.
Every time you know you cannot win you make excuses, its not your fault you'd done it all your life, I guess it is to late for you to change.

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ATF in Illinois — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:31:39 GMT

Go figure. It's only a state that 'won't matter' in a long line of other states that don't matter. SPIN SPIN SPIN!

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Carol — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:35:53 GMT

Whatever!

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Mrs. Davis — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:36:16 GMT

The caucus in Idaho was very unfair! I was there. The doors opened at 5:30 and the college students who had been promissed $4000 by the Obama campain were in line at 3:00. The hall was packed to capicity and the croud was rude to the Clinton supporters, what few got in. I would like to inform you students that you can't get that $4000 without an act of congress. Do you realy think you will get it? We barely got a spending package threw.

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Jack & Kate — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:37:14 GMT

GAME OVER.

Hillary Clinton has already proven she can win the big states that are the must wins for the Dems in November. Wyoming is a GOP state and irrelevant to the Dems.

If you can't win in Ohio, you can't win the Presidency. In Ohio, Obama outspent Hillary 3 to 1 yet won only 5 out of 88 counties in Ohio. Obama failed to close the deal.

Obama is unelectable.

It's time for Obama to exit the race and for Dems to unite behind Hillary.

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RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:39:10 GMT

LET SEE YOU HUSBAND BILL ELECTED TO BE PRESIDENT TWO TIMES BY THE SAME SYSTEM YOU NOW CLAIM IS NOT FAIR.

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to the foolish — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:39:47 GMT

hrc's willingness to elevate mccain's image as a politician and take a lieberman approach in her candidacy is very damaging. she is taking the approach to damage obama so bad that the democrats have no choice but to vote for her or a republican.

her lies, innuendos and gutter politics is hurting the dem party. if she does win so many people aren't going to turn out to vote that would have voted.

she has talked badly about the states she hasn't won in and now is trying to make it a pure feminist movement. hrc's waffling statements on wether obama was a muslim or not really changed my opinion of her.

hrc's lies about the obama campaign and nafta tarnished her character in my mind. to think that her campaign called and said to take it with a grain of salt to the canadians and she point the finger at obama.

it is sad that women are voting for her only because she is a woman. as americans we want so little. we choose to believe lies and dirty politics then complain when the person gets in office and act like they don't need us anymore.

hillary is a monster and a snake. she is going to divide the dem party right down the middle. she is going to ignite the gop to rise up if she wins. they hate her.

hrc's tactics will cause so many dem's to stay home. the dem's will lose the general election because of low turnout on the dem side and improved turnout on the gop side.

she will do anything for power. if she wins watch with disappointment as john mccain wins the white house.

all of you that vote for her just because she is a woman, because you don't like blacks, believe the lies off of hrc's lips will deserve just what you will get. blindly following someone out of emotion instead of remembering her history and tactics of now will be your own loss.

the democratic party will take decades to recover from the damage she is doing and will have done.

hillary is an emissary of division. she has taken the same philosophy of the republicans. nothing is going to get done in washington if she wins.

the republicans are watching how she is destroying her own party and will never trust her. we are getting ready to have 8 more years of republicans rule simply because so many are blinded by this snake in the grass.

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GW,Vancouver, Canada — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:40:10 GMT

Well, there were a few days without a picture of Hillary on your home page, I guess the Clinton campaign complained because there she is again.
Is there not another candidate running? In case you have forgotten , his name is Obama and he does attend rallies and I am sure he can be photographed, too.

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Jill, Long Island, NY — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:51:00 GMT

As far as I know, Senator Obama has never been a quitter either; in spite of all that kitchen sink garbage and dirty lies Clinton tried to throw at him during her fits of tantrum over the past couple months, Obama has demonstrated that he has not only the courage to not give up, but also the ability to maintain his composure and exercise good judgement in the face of such opposition.

And speaking of being a fighter, not only is Obama a fighter, he also fights an honorable battle...something that Clinton CAN'T say honestly. Clinton has shown poor judgement by using tactics that she knows would cause division in the democratic partic and would put it at a disadvantage comes November. I'm sorry to say it, but I can't believe that someone like her wouldn't also try to promote division among the American people if such division would mean her staying in power.

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smoop — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:53:19 GMT

Hillary when are you going to provide your 2006/2007 tax returns that we have been asking for , for over a month now . What do you have to hide. Another WHITEWATER embarassment for the country. Or is it more illegal dirty laundered money like in the 1990's. I think that the people of the USA deserve better than the CLINTON lies we have gotten so far. Not to mention the poor judgement hillary showed when she voted to support BUSH and this senseless war inwhich we have lost 4000 lives and 25,0000 now disabled. If this is the kind of experience you speak of and the judgement you speak of , then thanks but no thanks I'll pass.

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Toni — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:59:27 GMT

Hillary's Foriegn Policy in Northern Ireland Experience Debunked

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province
I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."
Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml

Come on First Read...where are you on this story

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Ian — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:00:05 GMT

I'm no Hillary fan but she does have a point concerning the caucus versus primaries debate. I'm guessing the only reason caucuses exist at all is due to normally poor turnout and the cost of a full-blown primary. While I doubt low turnout is an issue this time around, this time around is probably a one-off.

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Nj — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:00:06 GMT

If Obama loses this I say
THE FIX IS IN

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COREY, BIRMINGHAM AL — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:00:54 GMT

MORE DIRTY MUD SLINGING FROM HILLARY CLINTON. HAVEN'T WE AS AMERICANS HAD ENOUGH OF DIRTY CLINTON POLITICS IN THE PAST. EVEN JOHN MCCAIN HAS PROMISES A CIVILIZED RACE. HILLARY STICK TO THE ISSUES AND LEAVE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS AT HOME .THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT AMERICANS FACE ,NOT MUD SLINGING . CHARACTER COUNTS AND FROM WHAT I AM SEEING AS OF LATE I AM LIKING A LOT LESS OF YOURS. IT SEEMS THAT WHEN YOU ARE BEHIND YOU LOOSE SITE OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT.

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TONY,LONDON — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:02:42 GMT

PLEASE MSNBC STOP YOUR BAIS TOWARDS THE CLINTONS JUST BECAUSE THEY COMPLAINED. BE HONEST, THRUTHFUL AND TRANSPATENT. IF OBAMA WAS THE ONE WHO DIDN'T DISCLOSE HIS TAX RETURNS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY. HER PERSONAL ATTACKS IS SICKENING EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOWS THE CLINTONS ARE THE MOST SECRETIVE ADMIN IN AMERICA. IT IS A FACT SO MEDIA PLEASE GET IT STRAIGHT.
TONY FRON LONDON, UK

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Sean, Bedford, Texas — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:03:23 GMT

I can certainly understand the criticism of the caucus process, particularly as it relates to the opportunity everyone has to participate. Here in Texas, many of us were unaware we had a caucus system in addition to our normal primary. Still, I think that the Clinton camp's use of this criticism to downplay the strength of Obama's support rings hollow. The bottom line in either process is "turning out your base"; therefore, if you are heavily favored in a district or state, it is reasonable to assume that you will dominate in the overall head count, whether it is by a caucus or a primary.

Consider who she complains about not being able to participate: nurses, members of the military, people who work the night shift or who can't get off their day shift and the very old. Arguably, the same time conflict can come up (and often does) for many people even in a primary system. How often do you hear "Gee, I just didn't have the time to get to the polls" even in a primary system with early voting? Equally, if you are old or disabled, going to a caucus at 7:00 p.m. on one night may not be any more difficult than going at 3:00 p.m. or 10:00 a.m. if you don't have the resources or means to get yourself there. Never mind that Clinton's implication that these are "her" supporters is also baseless: Are all nurses women? Are those who work the night shift only white males and females?

Again, let me stress that I would rather have the primary system over a caucus. But what Clinton doesn't want to acknowledge is that her losses ARE indicators of her lack of strong support in many areas of the country and not simply some party manipulation or campagain trick on the part of the Obama camp, nor is it evidence that only "her" supporters are affected by the limitations of the caucus. Bottom line: This is a close tough race. The more Clinton hampers on whining about the cards she has been dealt, the more obvious it is that Clinton operates from an attidude that she was ENTITLED to be the nominee, despite the fact that her qualifications always paled in comparison to Biden, Dodd, and Richardson, and she is less inspiring than Obama or Edwards.

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Robert Fayetteville,Ar. — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:03:32 GMT

Is that another way of saying the Clinton political machine doesn't have much influence in the caucus states? I think that has a lot to do with why Senator Clinton does better in the large states. It is more difficult to compete with former President Clinton's influence in those states.

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JenniferB, Rockledge FL — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:04:35 GMT

She's doing it again...saying that she won't win, when she should win, so if she doesn't win then she still looks good, and if she does win, she looks great. If that sentence made you dizzy, I'm sorry...I'm dizzy from the spin...spin...spin....

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anonymous, san ramon, ca. — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:05:55 GMT

No matter who you support in this race...Caucuses are unfair. Anyone who works in an agency/company that's open 24/7 is being left out...that includes emergency service workers like firemen, policemen, doctors, nurses, etc. Working class Americans can't say to their boss, "I'm going to the caucus" and expect to get their shift off to do so. Disabled Americans and seniors often need special help to get to the polls, let alone a caucus. Some of these caucuses are quite a distance from their homes and some have been known to last for hours!! How is this the American way...I think the caucuses are completely unamerican...for the few, not the many. They discriminate almost across the board!!

One Man...One Vote...One Woman...One Vote!! Caucuses should be totally done away with...they are undemocratic by their very nature!!

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:07:46 GMT

Hillary knocks the caucus process because she's not good at it. Perhaps Obama wins them because the people who are really concerned about government and participate at this level find Obama to be the better candidate.

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TUB, CITRONELLE AL — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:10:17 GMT

I HAVE BEEN A HILLARY SUPPORTER UNTIL NOW. HER BEHAVIOR HAS NOT BEEN EXCEPTABLE, AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS FOR THE DEMS TO TAKE BACK THE WHITEHOUSE IN 2008. WE CAN'T DO THIS BY TEARING OTHER DEMS DOWN AND BUILDING UP JOHN MCCAIN AS HILLARY HAS DONE THIS WEEK. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON!!! IT IS ABOUT THE DEM PARTY NOT JUST YOU. THE REP. PARTY IS LAUGHING AND THEY SHOULD BE. HILLARY IS A DISGRACE AND NEEDS TO BE PUT IN HER PLACE BY AL,NANCY, AND HOWARD FOR THE SAKE OF THE DEM PARTY.

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AC in LA CA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:12:46 GMT

I get it now. Anything Hillary is not good at must not work or is unimportant. She loses caucuses, they are bad. She loses primaries like Virginia and Virginia is not important. This is the divisive part of her that I just cannot support. She's been in politics for the last 35yrs and now she has issues?

Just when I start to rethink supporting her, her hidden agenda resurfaces.

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Vermont Mom for Obama — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:13:52 GMT

I can't wait to see what will happen today if/when HRC loses the Wyoming caucuses. After she has stated that their votes were 'worth fighting for', will she turn around and declare Wyoming insignificant? Oh, no, wait... She has already laid the groundwork for this one, stating that she is "not too keen" about the caucus process...

Okay, forget it, all set...

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LYNN — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:14:11 GMT

GO OBAMA GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! STRAIGHT TO THE WHITE HOUSE WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN END THIS WAR THAT HILLARY ,MCCAIN ANG BUSH STARTED. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COUNTRY BEING MORE UNITED .

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gene — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:15:38 GMT

Now, I can tell you something about a Texas caucus. Our caucus was organized chaos. I live in a urban center and needless to say, we Clinton voters were very outnumbered. The Obama supporters grabbed control of the caucus, interpreded the rules to suit themselves, changed the rules as them went along, allowed people to vote who had arrived late {once the caucus is called to order, no late arrivals are allowed to vote}. No one could hear, there was hollering and screaming to get attention and most of the CLinton voters left before the vote on the delegates or hid out with the Obama supporters (they were afraid to be seen with us). At another caucus site the Clinton election official had to flee to a police station with the Clinton talley sheets, with a mob of Obama supporters after her (some of the mob chasing her were local and out of town Obama supporters-paid and unpaid)There was another site where all of the Clinton talley sign in sheets just disappeared.They were in the hands of the Obama election official when they disappeared. Clinton got no delegates at this site. I have attended my last Texas caucus.THe results from my site has been challenged and charges filed. If you do not beleive me, Google-Dallas Morning News-dated 3-5-08

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Cheryl, NJ — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:16:04 GMT

Attack, whine, misstate, pull the gender card, attack, whine, misstate, pull the gender card, attack, whine, misstate, pull the gender card.

Her actions are truly monstrous.

It's really pitiful. I guess I have to give another $50.

Obama 08

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Larry Pugher, Dallas Texas — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:19:32 GMT

Come on Hillary, your voters are middle aged white women that can barely figure out how to change the channel to watch their soap operas. How are they ever going to learn out how to caucus?

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JenniferB, Rockledge FL — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:31:19 GMT

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ginny, WA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:32:27 GMT

Nonsense!
In New Mexico, people had to wait in line, in some cases more than 3 hours, to vote in the primary -- on a Tuesday. In Washington state, causcus members could leave after about 1 hour -- on a Saturday. The caucus argument does not hold water.
Also, if Clinton is so concerned about the poor masses who cannot participate in caucuses because they aren't as privileged, etc., then why does she feel that superdelegates should carry more weight than delegates elected democratically? Isn't that a double-standard? Elitist in some regards and not in others -- depending on how it benefits her. It's all about Hillary...

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TedJ, KC, MO — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:33:33 GMT

Of course she complains about any caucus she may not win. But she also downplays any primary she doesn't think she will win, look at Wisc. She campaigned hard there although her handlers will state otherwise. Sad thing is the media runs with whatever her campaign states is the next important state, which is the state her campaign thinks she can win. She will win the nomination because the media is afraid to ask hard questions concerning concerning donators to Bill's library or foundation or about their past tax returns. She should also win in Nov. but just like in Bill's term she will have all the old faces(look at her campaign) and in 2010 the democrats will agin lose control of congress and nothing will get accomplished.

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sotiredofignorance — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:37:07 GMT

Perhaps the reason Senator Clinton doesn't do well in Caucuses is that her supporters are just not that dedicated to her. A Caucus is a MORE democratic process, not less. After all, our country used town halls for years to resolve issues and still does in some parts of the country.

Going to Caucus is interesting, not difficult at all, and if Senator Clinton's supporters are that put off by something new, my guess is that they may not show up to vote for her if there is anything that may slow that process down.

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Hannh Brewer — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:38:34 GMT

Aha. Another Clinton Whine. My grandmother would say that Hillary acts like a dog in a manger. When she wins by even a hair ball in the popular vote, she claims total victory. Even though her opponent is actually winning the nomination! On the other hand, when she suspects she may lose -- even just suspects it -- she claims the system sucks. I'll tell you which system sucks; its' the superdelegates she is depending on to broker back room deals to hand her the nomination -- even if we choose differently!
As for her experience, According to Donald Lambro of the Washington Times,". . . as a senotor Hillary has "led no great legislative offensives, proposed no major, original legislative reforms of her own, and seems bereft of any new Ideas."
According to Alternet's quote of Samantha Powers, whose career (and Pulitzer Prize) is rooted in her incredibly courageous work for humanitarian causes, Prez Clinton refused to help stop the genocide in Rwanda. HE didn't think it was important enough. See the movie "Hotel in Rwanda" for just a hint of the slaughter that took place there. Genuine genocade. Was that decision part of the experience Hillary claims?
She is Queen of the Wafflers. Every time Obama suggests she has a responsibility to the voters -- US -- to reveal her tax records and White House papers that might substantiate her claims of great presidential experience, she waffles. A Washington word which means she throws some hubris at him -- AND US -- rather than answering the question. She has said on national tv that she will release her tax records AFTER SHE HAS WON THE NOMINATION. Which any grammar school kid could figure out is a big time Waffle.
Her campaign strategy is to pull her opponent down to her dirty tricks level so she can claim he's no better than she is, thereby destroying his core concept of decency and Hope for our presidency.
The Clintons are monstrously clever but I think America's voters have had it with the Bush/Cheney presidency. I doubt they want to have another secret, polarizing "win at any cost, -- or endorse the Republican candidate" kind of president at the head of our precious country.
Incidentally, her coy bribe to voters that if they vote for her, she will give their favorite a booby prize of VP on HER TICKET is clever but chutzpah only to be found in the Billary camp. Slick Willie and Williett strikes again! But Psst! Hillary, you are not the winner!!!
Here's a little bit of amusement:
Professional gamblers say online that if Hillary wins the nomination, odds are on the Republicans winning. If Obama wins the nomination, the odds are in his favor to win the presidency. Hummmm ..
It's a great morning here in Texas. Off for coffee. Go Obama YES WE CAN Hannah

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joe — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:42:59 GMT

well,well well,when things dont go your way it's time to pull the dirty trix out of the bag.shame on the clintons.

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Margaret, NYC — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:43:39 GMT

Caucuses are very undemocratic because it disenfranchises so many voters who can't be available for several hours during a specific time - the elderly, young parents, shift workers, etc.

But college students with fewer responsibilities can caucus anytime.

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Tim R., Golden, CO — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:43:59 GMT

Hillary Huckabee should bow out now.

Only the Clinton Rove-like dirty tricks can save her, and that's not what the country needs.

We don't need more status quo, we need REAL change.

Buh-bye, Hillary Huckabee!

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Trish, La Jolla, CA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:45:58 GMT

The democrats are just TOO SCREWED UP.

Actually calling Hillary Clinton a MONSTER IS TOO NICE. She's a TWO FACED, TWO TOUNGED, LIAR, HYPOCRITE MONSTER, how's that for the whole truth & nothing but the truth. She's sooooo full of herself, she stoop soooo low as to make Obama less qualified than the Republican nominee. Now, that's LOW even for the republicans. The Clintons would rather see their party torn apart, than having somebody else be the nominee. She has made Obama's supporters so disgusted & appalled that the thought of voting for her on any ticket would make them hurl!!!

My republican friends, WITH OUR CANDIDATE ALREADY SELECTED, LET'S MAKE SURE WE VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!
She has screwed up her party so much, there's no way the Obama supporters would vote for her come general election, those Obama republicans certainly won't. But, there's NOTHING MORE ENERGIZING FOR US TO VOTE AGAINST HER IN NOVEMBER. She's done a perfect job FOR US, LET'S REPAY HER “KINDNESS” & GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANT. Obama's movement would be GONE (Thanks to her), and WE'LL BE THE ONE REAPING THE BENEFIT. WHAT A GREAT FEELING THAT WOULD BE, VOTING AGAINST HILLARY.
You gotta stomach it republicans, but it is worth the outcome.

We should NEVER let democrats win the White House & Hillary can help us do it. Even after George Bush screwing up, with Billary help we can still keep the White House in 2009. There's still HOPE for us afterall. Ooooh the irony is just too much. One DEMOCRAT is A MONSTER (waay too nice), and the OTHER is A LOOSER (HOPE NEVER WORKS!! DREAMER IS EVEN WORST!!)

THANK GOD FOR MCCAIN..., he looks BETTER & BETTER BY THE DAY! My fellow republicans let's MAKE SURE WE VOTE FOR HILLARY. This is WAY...TOO EASY to keep the White House. NO WONDER DEMOCRATS NEVER WIN.

Democrats, if you think Republicans isn't gonna WIN in 2009, THINK AGAIN!! Hillary has given us OBAMA in a SILVER PLATER, & SHE WILL BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK when SHE'S THE NOMINEE. EITHER WAY, REPUBLICAN WILL WIN!!! How beautiful is that!!

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Hendrixx, Fresno — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:50:07 GMT

When Hilary Clinton decided to run for nomination, Obama was exploring the idea of running. At the time, she had already amassed a huge war chest, built an organization and hired staff who annointed her the "inevitable" candidate. She was aware of all the rules and nuances governing the campaign laying ahead. She never complained about cacuses deomcracy then. She just assumed she was going to hack it and profit from it. Then comes Obama, a rookie, untested, one who has not passed the "threshold of commander in chief". LOL. He upsets he tidy world, creates friction between her adoring staff forcing them to address each other's grievances with expletives, and nearly sends her campaign to bankruptcy. It is understandable that now she has to cherry pick which of the initial rules should apply to the candidacy of Hilary Clinton. Hey, it is owed to her. She is the inevitable candidate. It is her divine right to be the presidential nominee.

Sounds a familiar and pathetic cry of a desperate loser. I have grown weary and tired of her dirty play, whinning and the canniving win-by-any-means-necessary-or-otherwise ways. Hillary is not good for the Democratic Party. Come convention time, it will be payback time. I hope those super delegates are paying attention to her dirty play. They will be called to pronouce a judgement on her erranty ways that are eroding a great deal of public goodwill to rid the Repulbicans. They will be required to put down her candidacy the way a vet euthanizes a hopelessly cancer-ridden dog.

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Don, Maosn, Texas — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:54:02 GMT

Hillary Clinton is waiting for Pennsylvania, when, just before the day of voting, when the media will not have time to verify and analyze, she will put out a significant lie about Barack Obama that causes doubt about his character. When the media gets to verify the Clinton story as false, Barach Obama will have lost the state.

This is what she did in Ohio and Texas using the Canadian consulate story.

Hillary Clinton has spent 14 years of her life campaigning. Six years campaigning for Bill Clinton's gubernatorial races, four years campaigning for Bill Clinton's Presidential races, four years campaigning for her own Senatorial races. SHe knows how to manipulate the media for votes and will stop at nothing to win.

She is frighteningly Machiavellian.

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Jim Baer, Missouri — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:54:12 GMT

Shillery, the big cry baby. She doesn't like caucuses and she doesn't like the idea of Barack Obama taking away her birthright to be President.

Oh too bad, oh so sad. Maybe the Clinton dynasty will come to an end and then she will have more time to explain about her tax records, Whitewater, Travelgate and a host of other shady activities.

For the good of the party, Shrillery, surrender to the person who has the most delegates, the most national votes and the most states.

Give it up

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cuss a caucuse — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:55:21 GMT

She's a lady, talking about the first lady! Soon to be Madame President, coming to a White House near you!
Starring Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton!

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Rathan, Covington, GA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:55:29 GMT

So political activism isn't good? That is what a caucus system preserves.

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mike form maine — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:56:13 GMT

Dear Friends,

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"Obama Supporters Who Will Not Vote For Clinton in November"

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adam — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:57:27 GMT

Clinton fans say "this is our '68" as though that's a good thing.

What a thoughtless, despicable thing to say.

Yes, we are on a similar course as we were in 1968, and if the convention ends with her stealing the nomination like '68, this will be exactly like 1968, and it might take another 40 years to heal the wounds.

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David Thelen, Des Moines, Iowa — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:58:13 GMT

In any successful business, it is required that the CEO appoints the right people for the company’s board. The board needs to have people with various talents. The board needs to have at least one intelligent person who does not necessarily always agree with the CEO. This person needs to have intelligent answers for why he/she does not agree with the CEO.
Apparently, the President of the United States starts each day with intelligence meetings with his/her advisers. The president of the United States appoints his/her advisers. Some would say President Bush got bad advice when it came to whether or not to invade Iraq. The question I have is whom will the next President of the United States, will pick to have as their closest advisers? If the next president of the United States does get a pressing call at 3AM, whom will they consult with as their advisers?
I believe when it comes to many of the pressing international and domestic problems, the first 100 days of the next president administration will be the most important to solve. Or the window of opportunity will be forever lost. He/she needs to mend many international relationships.
He/she needs to stabilize the falling dollar. Is it true that oil is bought with the euro and no longer the dollar? Is it true the Chinese dollar no longer is tide to the US dollar? These may be the two reasons for the high oil prices; it is due to the falling dollar. He/she needs to mend many international relationships to change these two reasons for the falling dollar.
He/she needs to create new momentum to find answers to our energy needs. He/she needs to stabilize the excess rise in the cost of health care. He/she needs to show the world that the United Sates is above all the dictators in the world. We believe in basic human rights and not perform torture. Again, many plates on a stick will have to be attended to the first 100 days of the next president’s administration.
This country cannot afford any more presidential mud slinging. They need to stick to the issues.

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Brian — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:00:38 GMT

The caucus process does screen out most potential voters. With only 60k or so democratis in Wyoming, I wonder how many people will vote. Can't change the rules now, but I hope that more states go to primaries in the future. Caucuses marginalize working voters and the elderly.

Hillary 08

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rose — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:01:01 GMT

I believe the caucus system leaves out too many working americans. If you work 8-12 hours, have to pick up and feed your children, do all your daily chores, and be ready to do it again the next day, there is no time to spend 2 hours at a caucus. Being able to stop and vote over an all day primary benefits all americans, not just those who can afford another babysitter in the evening. Since the better educated, affluent dems support Obama it explains why he does better.

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Sherri, Charleston WV — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:03:27 GMT

Dandy......some of her arguments have a little validity. But here's the thing. You could use the same arguments in terms of balloting. I work a double. I'm too frail to get to the poll. I'll be out of town. You need to work the situation you are given, or "fight" as she puts it. Does it have o be a "fight"? IF she gets the nomination, who does she fight then? Should it be a "fight" at all? How 'bout---let's come together folks, and let's join in a movement to change how things are done as a WHOLE. OBAMA 08

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Joe Bob Halley — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:06:10 GMT

On the subject of Obama and caucuses generally, it'd be nice, wouldn't it, if instead of lazily reciting the inaccurate phrase, "caucuses favor Obama," as though this has happened through luck or happenstance, the media made it clear that Obama and his people have EARNED that status through a "from the ground up" organizational model, a candidate/message-inspired mass of supporters in each caucus state, and a willingness on the part of volunteers to sacrifice to whatever extent is necessary to ensuring the success of the man they believe in.

And as long as they're at it--being accurate, that is--they might as well also explain that the end results in these caucuses have had their roots in smart planning begun many months in advance and, like most all important successes, have come about the old fashioned way, through commitment, hard work and perseverance.

They could even go on to say that all the candidates knew the rules and the schedule and had the same opportunities to organize to compete long before the Iowa caucuses. That is, no one began with any advantage; the playing field was level for all.

And if they really wanted to be fair, they might point out that Senator Clinton had $100M back then--a time when Obama was scrounging for lunch money--and a husband who'd campaigned for president twice, including in all the caucus states, and was the titular head of the democratic party.

Against that background, a fair reporter might then conclude by saying that in the end, Obama's credibility and his message of change carried far greater resonance with many more voters, which in turn elicited inspiration, focused and sustained action, and finally caucus victories.

And if some reporter/talking head really wanted to nail it down, he/she might say, "you know what, Senator Clinton is out of line complaining about losing these caucuses. The fact is she's gotten out hustled. The fact is she made a choice early on not to TRY very hard in caucus states, maybe because she knew she'd be out hustled, and certainly because she thought she'd have the nomination sewn up by Tsunami Tuesday. An Obama supporter might look at this picture and say that that flawed strategy is strong evidence of very bad judgment--even of hubris, the very thing most Americans despise in George Bush--which makes very dubious Senator Clinton's claim that she and only she is ready to lead on Day One."

Obama's message is one of unity/ending divisiveness, and change. Aren't his caucus successes tangible proof of the power of that message, illustrating as they do what can be accomplished when diverse people with limited resources come together to work toward a common goal?

I'm not optimistic, but the ultimate fair analysis might even suggest that the way in which Obama has earned his caucus victories gives a preview of how he would lead if elected, and what the result of his leadership would be.

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Amy Andersen, Eden Prairie, MN — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:11:20 GMT

“‘Dancing is hard. Caucusing is easy,’ went one line.”

Looks like another slight miscalculation for the Clinton campaign -- Turns out Obama knows how to dance and, if Iowa and Texas proved anything, caucusing is not all that easy.

Ready on "day one"? Apparently not.

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Chad, Salt Lake City Utah — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:12:36 GMT

The rules of the game are just so unfair to you aren't they Hillary. Is that what we can expect of a Hillary Clinton Presidency? Whining and Sniveling to get congress to be fair?

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Alex, Spring, Texas — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:22:08 GMT

Look who are supporting Senator Clinton - people (mostly women) who want JUST a woman for President and low-educated misinformed people who just believe everything she declares. And nearly all her declarations contradict facts. Yes she has experience - of 35 years but most results were negative. Yes now she is against the NAFTA but earlier she praised it. Yes she traveled a lot but as a wife who did not have clearance and did not participate in anything. Yes she is a fighter but a downtown street no-rules fighter. And her illegitimate wish to use Michigan and Florida where other candidates practically withdrew following the rules and she had no competition. Yes she did some legislative work during her 7 years in Senate but Obama did nearly four times more in just 8 months! And her accusations of Obama are false.

Using all these unethical methods directed by Clinton's clan (I call them "Clinton nostra") discredits the Democratic Party, smears its reputation. You know - pure purposes are not achieved by dirty methods. Being allowed it also disreputes the very political struggle in US. You know - pure purposes are not achieved by dirty methods.

So the term MONSTER is pretty close to reality. It’s a pity that it is not a diplomatic term. And definitely it is not the real basis for resignation.

Why people take all the declarations at face value and do not want to compare them with facts???

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Kristy C., Charlotte, NC — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:24:51 GMT

Of course she downplays Wyoming! It's not important to her. This just plays to the strategy of going to Denver and claiming she won all the BIG(re:important) states like CA and NY. Why is a vote in CA more important than a vote in WI or ID? It's still a citizen that came out to vote in a primary. I admire that Obama works just as hard to campaign in Nebraska as he does in Virginia. All people are equal to him. As a person who would have been ok with either candidate until recently, I have leaned toward his more positive style in the last week or so. Clinton just brushes off states like Idaho and Alabama as if they don't matter. ALL American votes matter - from every state.

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Bull the Dog — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:26:05 GMT

Chuck Todd,
While I don't condone Power's reference to Hillary as a monster, I think she is trying to draw attention to the fact that Hillary almost always sails into Obama when she has nothing else to uncover as Obama's flaws. For instance, if she questioned his Iraq war stance or credentials to resolve that conflict, it is she who helped create that conflict and, as a self-proclaimed fighter, she will probably create even more mess with the war. She can try to convince you that many army generals support (and probably will assist her with) her plan for resolving the conflict but that is more of a political maneuvering, just as she has won Ohio and Texas in part by misleading (like President Bush) voters on the NAFTA (readers, refer to http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/06/738264.aspx for details).
She seems to overreact like a reactionary. She throws in an outlandish accusation of misdeed at Obama even if the allegation is groundless, such as in the NAFTA furor.
Rather than explaining why they believe she is a better candidate and what her 35-year experience is all about, Hillary's supporters treat her like a sacred cow or a prophet. They seem to condone her outright lies and outlandish deeds, while they overreact against Obama and his supporters. I think they need to treat all candidates on an equal basis; otherwise, they are ardent advocates of the double standard and will seize on anything Obama says or does and nitpick like crazy, while they selfishly turn their other cheeeks at Hillary's outrageous actions. Frankly, everyone needs to stop kowtowing the candidate and act like a real and concerned voter.
Hillary is, to be honest, a hypocrite, a liar, and an absolutely self-centered politician. It only takes an intelligent mind to agree, and those who disagree need to go to places like www.factcheck.org and render their own judgment.
Also, a politician who wants to transform politics cannot do so in the face of relentless and nonsensical attacks from an old school politician who exactly symbolizes politics of hopelessness and fear. To succeed in transforming politics, Obama needs to aggressively but sincerely defeat the status quo of Clinton symbolizes.

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Joe, York Beach, Maine — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:26:53 GMT

Hey MSNBC...when are you going to actually report the news instead of being on the Billary Train with your unfair reporting? You guys are so biased it's pathetic. I'm still trying to figure out how she has you on her payroll but something will come out eventually. Sen. Obama will win today and you guys will pout probably until the Pennsylvania primary. Sen. Obama will beat her in Michigan. The come back kid is Sen. Obama. It shows in the delegates and the popular vote which you refuse to admit. You won't report her lies...but you will report everything else. Again...you are pathetic.

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Sharon, Charleston, SC — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:28:33 GMT

Where are the Clinton's '06 tax returns? What are they hiding? Are they going to try to just give their '07 tax returns on April 15th? Are they trying to hide all of the money Bill Clinton has made by selling favors to foreign interests in '06? What are they hiding? The CA law suit against her is going to trial in October '08, she could go to jail. Do we want to risk that in a future president? Just some things to give serious consideration to when voting for the most important job in the world. Who you hire a person for a job with a pending lawsuit that could send them to jail?

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June, San Rafael, CA — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:28:47 GMT

Well... how many people showed up at the Obama rally at the University of Wyoming yesterday?

Keep on track.