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Sarah — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:10:26 GMT

If she was so involved there by the offices in the White House , wouldn't she have noticed Monica hanging around alittle bit more?

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Matt, Valparaiso, IN — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:10:46 GMT

I'm still amazed at the fact that the spineless leaders of the DNC have let this primary continue - to the detriment of the Democratic party! Hillary can only win by slinging mud and making misleading or false statements about her opponent! BLECH!! ENOUGH!!

Let's move on and unite behind Barack Obama. For too long has the electorate favored the Republicans. With a new electorate full of energetic and inspired young people, the entire Red/Blue map will shift.

Please do not let this opportunity pass by, Democrats!!

You want universal health care, an end to the war in Iraq, a rational immigration policy, a responsible education policy, and a foreign policy we can all be proud of? --- Then let's put this race to bed before none of these things are possible -- in a McCain White House.

Superdelegates, where are you? THIS is your purpose.

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Blake, Denver, CO — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:10:48 GMT

I'm sick of the Clintons controlling the headlines. I feel like more of what I hear about Obama comes from the Clintons filling MSM ears with one story line or another. Seriously, one week I'm told that Obama isn't capable at all, the next week I'm told that he's lying about his intention, the next week I'm told that he's make a good VP... I have to kick myself just to remember he's in the lead. With all that being said... thank God for Tom Daschle! "It may be the first time in history that the person who is running number two would offer the person running number one the number two position," I'd swear that this oddity wouldn't have even been recognized by the media unless Tom would've pointed it out... so thank you Tom.

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MEL — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:13:30 GMT

ONCE AGAIN MSNBC HAS REPORTED THINGS WRONG NAFTA, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU WHEN YOU ARE SO FAR UP ONE CANDIDATES BUTT YOU DON'T GET THE FACTS RIGHT.
MSNBC IS THE NEW FOX NETWORK, IT IS SO PRO-OBAMA ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY. THATS GET THIS STRAIGHT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CLINTON'S PAST WE CARE ABOUT THE INEXPERIENCE OBAMA HAS AND HOW HIS PEOPLE ARE ANTI-JEW AND THAT DOESN'T HOLD WELL WITH A JEWISH WOMAN. I SUPRISED WHEN I DID SOME CHECKING ON HIS PEOPLE I DON'T WANT THEM ANYWHERE MAKING DECISSIONS FOR THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY.
IF OBAMA GETS IT I WILL VOTE FOR NADER OR MCCAIN.

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adam/Brooklyn New York City — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:13:30 GMT

Hillary offering Obama the VP is a little like the Patriots offering the Giants the runner-up in the Super Bowl.

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Democrats Against Hillary — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:18:22 GMT

OBAMA: Hit her where it hurts, she has misrepresented her experience and needs to be called to answer for it.
She needs to be hit on her management ability, her campaign, the first executive experience she has taken on, is a disaster and she relies more on loyalty than ability. We've seen how well this works in the Bush White House...

We need to see the tax returns and the list of donors to the library and the charity. We know why they aren't releasing them.

You can get Kennedy or whoever to do this for you, but DO IT! She is going to steal this election right out from under you, don't let her do it!

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Linda, Boston, MA — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:24:10 GMT

<b>"Is it fair to judge Clinton's internal campaign strife as a potential example of what a Clinton White House could look like?"</b>

YES! I've been saying this for weeks now. The decisions she makes with respect to who is running her campaign, as well as her ability (or lack thereof) to manage (i.e. LEAD) them has everything to do with her ability to run the country. She has shown herself to be quite incompetent in this regard, and it gives me no confidence whatsoever in her ability to lead as president.

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George, Dallas, Texas — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:24:31 GMT

Senator Hilary Clinton is the most secretive and divisive politician in America. “The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down. They have called their attacks the “kitchen sink strategy,” and Senator Clinton herself has referred to it as “the fun part” of the campaign. The result has been a constant barrage of attacks about Senator Obama’s record that they know full well aren’t true. And yet they repeat them, over and over again, day after day, in an attempt to deceive the American people just so that they can win this election.”
“Washington [Hilary Clinton] has played too much politics with the issue of war. It’s what got us into Iraq in the first place. It’s why so many brave Americans have lost their lives. And it’s why the real Commander-in-Chief test in this election isn’t about some TV ad, it’s about whether the American people will be able to trust in the judgment and the honesty of their next President.”

Their “kitchen and sink strategy” will not work this time in Pennsylvania and any other place.

Let Americans go to USA Today and Washington Times to see what the
Clintons are up to:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm?loc=intersti
tialskip

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080307/NATION/15653289/1001

Why is press not pursuing the story? The media should pursue the story so that Senator Clinton will be fully vetted.

George

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Gail Cohen — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:29:22 GMT

Does MSNBC/NBC write ANYTHING that doesn't demean Hillary and promote Obama? Even when you quote Lizza re her refusal to quit (she then prevailed -- you did notice that, didn't you?) it's in such an ugly and insulting way, and even though it's Obama's campaign that gave the back-door assurances to Canada you still implicate Hillary. It's become harder and harder for me to watch MSNBC, my (former) favorite news source. This is my first visit to this site and it's clearly just more of the same -- not one positive word about Hillary! You should all be ashamed of yourselves, and almost more than the many real reasons I want Hillary to win are the snarky ones, to watch all of you dumbfounded and visibly disappointed to learn that so many people support her candidacy and think she'd be a great President.

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PT, Kennebunk, Maine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:32:30 GMT

Buy Hillary and get Barack at half price...... the problem is, I'm not buying it!

I'll take Barack at 100% ..... But thanks for the offer.

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American Voter — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:32:53 GMT

The thought of another low rent scandalous Clinton administration is abhorrent to the majority of educated tax paying Americans!

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Derick — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:12 GMT

Based in the fact she praised McCain to be a better President; that implies guys like John Edward, Bill Richardson and the rest of the democratic Presidential contenders are no good to McCain.

If I was Obama, I will quit the Democratic party and work as an Independent if she buys over the superdelegates...He should not run for President if she hijacks he election with the help of the superdelegates, but cut off all ties with the democratic party...cause all the democratic party does is a demonstration of craze.

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Stan, Washington DC — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:35:27 GMT

Obama needs to fight back, but I believe in a positive way. I believe Obama needs to focus on his strengths to change how voters perceive the Clinton attacks by doing the following:
1. Spend more time on the issues and demonstrate why hi style of management is better. Start with the following concepts:
Coalition Government: Promise to build a government with meaningful representation of America, even including people he may disagree with. He needs to depict Clinton as a traditional politician and needs to remind the voters that the section of government with the lowest approval rating is Congress and he needs to tell the public why. He needs to remind the public that gridlock in congress is the result of leadership’s inability to get people to work together;
Why Judgment trumps years in Washington: The significance of one speech one judgment in time … one judgment: He needs to highlight the importance of one speech and one judgment. If people do not think one single position or judgment is important, the should consider the following: One single vote by Hillary Clinton and others who voted to authorize the war in Iraq resulted in the following: Dead – X number of America men and women; Dead – X number of Iraqi civilians; $X Billions – spent on the war so far; $x Billions – the estimated amount the war will cost; None – Al Qaeda’s influence in Iraq prior to the war authorized by one vote; Less safe – What one judgment in time has caused us to be. I think he needs to highlight the impact one judgment in time can have and characterize his speech as judgment, not a simple speech in 1992. He needs to remind people why Judgment matters.
2. For now, Focus on Hillary and Ignore John McCain: For now, Obama must focus on the fight in his face. While he can make occasional mentions of why he is better than McCain, he must first remind and convince people about how much stronger he'll be than Clinton.
3. Gorilla marketing … show why government should be from the ground up: Town hall meetings in endless succession. Photo ops with his sleeves rolled up while in conference with working-class voters about their fears and wishes. Walk door-to-door talking to people about their health care and explain to them why he's the best person to actually get it done. You get the picture: Obama's got to show the skittish undecided that he works harder than Clinton does.
4. Use his surrogates to raise questions and create doubt about Hillary, but still be civil and respectful to women voters: Have them address the following:
a. Debunk her “Experience” point: Get one of your credible people, perhaps someone who worked in the Clinton White House, to shed light why about Clinton’s has no experience with foreign-policy crises, no experience with economic policy, and that her one experience with health care was a disaster from start to finish. Pound Clinton on the "experience” and it will quickly become apparent how thin her resume really is. She claims she was integrally involved in the release of Kosovo refugees and the Irish peace talks, and standing up to the Chinese … Fine. Make her discuss her role, which as reported by many on the media, was insignificant or even better, make he release the White House paper so we can see which treaties she negotiated.
b. Show contrast and softly create doubt without going nasty: … focus on defensible facts: Show why you are a better manager and showcase your organizational skills in the way you have managed your campaign staff in contrast to hers.
c. Remind people of the Clinton years, without stating the Obvious – Monica: Since she wants to claim her Clinton year as part of her experience, wrap it around her neck. Remind voters that things were not all great during the Clinton years, such as losing control of Congress in the 1990s, Democrats? Remember losing Democratic control of governorships across the country? Failed Clinton foreign policies in Rwanda and Somalia. Remember all the useless dramas, remember losing all chance to further any kind of political agenda for the last two years of Bill Clinton's last term because of his personal problems? Be careful with this one because some still associate Clinton with better times that we have now. This would have to come from someone with uber-credibility, or else, stay away from it.

Stan

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Lisa in New Britain, CT — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:37:12 GMT

I think since she has been running as the "experience" candidate, its very telling. This is not one bad week for Clinton. This is problems with her campaign since the beginning of the year. It makes me question how she can be "head of the Party", "commander-in-chief", a strong leader on domestic issues, and how she can have a strong (e.g., well-functioning) Cabinet and White House staff when she doesn't seem able to run a campaign.

I don't feel like reading about in-fighting and disfunction among her advisors for four years. Our country needs more than that.

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Nelson Peebles, raleigh, nc — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:41:48 GMT

Concern about her managin her campaign should also coincide with her management of her homelife.
Hillary has made very poor decisions as a woman
When a woman is publicly disgraced and humiliated by a man, she should take executive action. In addition, she should make a complete overhaul including amends to the other wounded parties
How can Hillary espect to galvanize America when she cannot count on the vote of women. She ruined Monica Losensky's life by not speaking out
And, now, she is an angry vengeful woman who will make major decisions based on her woundedness
And, Bill Clinton just keeps rooling along damaging her further
Bill Clinton insulted American voters when he mad the comment about Barack Jessee Jackson
Bill Clinton recently insulted American voters when he suggest that the front runner become vice president

Did he not know that he was, in effect, endorsing Obama
The first question asked when choosing a vice presidential running mate is whether or not the vandidate is cpm[petent to take over as president

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David in AL — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:41:55 GMT

I'm an Obama supporter. I won't vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. I won't vote for her if Obama is her VP, either. In fact, I wouldn't vote for Obama for anything ever again if he became her VP.

She can keep trying the dream ticket thing all she wants, but the truth is that many of initially went to Obama because we didn't like her. Luckily, we liked him a lot.

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PT, Kennebunk, Maine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:43:14 GMT

There needs to be more investigation by reporters on things like "NAFTA-Gate", campaign contributions, the origin of timely pictures, etc. If Drudge is saying that the picture was sent by someone in the Clinton campaign group, who? If Ms. Powers can resign for calling someone a "monster" than certainly much more scutiny should be made of so much that comes out of the Clinton campaign group. Senator Clinton's denial of knowing in advance is unacceptable. And if she truly has no prior knowledge of these events/comments before they're being made, what is she doing to demonstrate better management skills over "her" campaign?.... we can't just report stories, we should also investigate them.

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Trev — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:45:53 GMT

Clinton is using a competitive style as a manager. The media, to this point, is only talking about the negative style of that strategy (lots of competition that sometimes spills over into the public sphere). The media (big surprise) is ignorning the major benefit of a competitive style. When people are free to compete, the manager gets more access to better ideas. I would much rather have a manager who insists on open competition than one who encourages groupthink and "yes-people." In the United States, our economic competition is based on competition, our adversarial legal system is based on competition and our political system is based on competition. Only the pro-Obama media would be able to figure out how to turn competition into a bad thing.

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Fact Check — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:52:13 GMT

To answer the question, "does management count?" It does if you've staked your whole claim on the Presidency on "being ready on Day 1." Why? Because the mismanagement and disarray shows that she's not.

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Meridith — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:52:28 GMT

Wow. Another morning another long string of anti-Clinton commentary from the boys at MSNBC. What s shock. Why not hit Obama over his lack of disclosure over Rezko instead of simply spitting out what the Obama campaign feeds you about Hillary and this paper or that that they are demanding. Clinton compared these tactics to Ken Starr b/c Obama's new strategy is to relive 90's scandals that went nowhere. This was an amazing string of negatives in one piece guys.

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Scott — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:52:40 GMT

From Associated Press, March 8, 2008 commenting on Obama’s lead in the Wyoming caucuses:

“Obama generally has outperformed Clinton in caucuses, which reward organization and voter passion more than do primaries. The Illinois senator has won 12 caucuses to Clinton's three.”

Well put AP. Clinton talks all the time about the caucuses not being “fair” to her. On it’s face, that’s baffling since she has the benefit of 16 years of her husband’s organization. But, so be it. Taking her comment at face value though leads one to the obvious question: should we NOT be rewarding organization and voter passion? Should we instead give our government over to a candidate who CAN’T organize (and can’t manage finances apparently given that she spent her campaign into the red in January)? How is she “ready on Day 1” when she can’t even organize to win caucuses? Note: she got SMOKED in the Texas cacucuses, a storyline that received almost NO coverage (real responsible MSM).

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jp,michigan — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:52:49 GMT

Clinton does have more experience than Obama. He was made chairman of an important committee NATO in Afghanistan, he never held any meeting , his priority was to run for President. His supposed use of good judgement , I question. ww.suntimes.com In 2006 Obama recieved an e-mail from the son of the Iraqi Ministry of Electricity, Al-Sammarae who was sentenced for corruption< and feared for his life. Obama stated he was doing this on a request from a constituent. Al-Sammarae is a friend and business partner of Rezko. Federal authorities were probing into this relationship. Al-Sammarae broke out of jail and returned to Chiacgo. Obama wants transparency in politics, well when will he start.

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Seeing Clearly — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:55:05 GMT

I never thought I'd see Ed "Mr. IceMan" Rendell, the Governor of PA, flustered. It happened this morning on Meet the Press. Mr. Rendell was representing Hillary and was caught choking on the Clinton spin.

MTP’s host Tim Russert noted that the Clinton campaign seemed to be fundamentally contradicting itself last week when out of one side of her mouth, Senator Clinton was saying Barack is not ready to be Commander in Chief. Then, out of the other side of her mouth, (reinforced by Bill’s comments), they were suggesting that Barack would make for a "dream ticket."

Mr. Russert noted that in order to believe Obama would be a terrific member of a “dream ticket,“ the Clintons must believe that Barack is ready to be Commander in Chief. Then, he asked Governor Rendell, "well, which is it? Is he qualified or not?" Rendell was noticeably flustered realizing they'd actually been stuck by their own spin. He finally admitted that Barack was indeed ready, but tried to assert that Hillary was “more ready.” What?

Hillary flacks: don't even bother screaming that “Well, what did you expect, Tim Russert is biased.” Yes I saw SNL. Tina Fay has endorsed Hillary and the head writer that wrote that sketch may well have as well. Your whining about "media bias" on this one won't save you.

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John - PA — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:01:46 GMT

YES - it is very fair to review how someone manages their campaign to determine experience in leading the country. If not, then why is it ok for Hillary to complain about differences made by Obama?
Hillary has been a poor leader/manager of her campaign staff/cabinet the same high potential for her as President. If she can't make quick decisive decisions in a campaign how is she going to be able to make them at 3AM?

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Carter Hoerr, Charlottesville, Va. — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:01:51 GMT

There is a glaring error in this post. (Not to mention a misspelling.) Cindy McCain runs an independent family business that distributes Anheuser-Busch beers in Phoenix. There are hundreds of similar small to medium-sized distributing businesses around the country. She is NOT chairwoman of Anheuser-Busch (a global brewing and entertainment corporation headquartered in St. Louis, Mo.)

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Fact Check — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:03:39 GMT

I thought she had "learned" from the Healthcare debacle in the 90s.

WRONG.

She's "managing" her campaign in the same insular ineffective way.

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wapitig8r gainesville fl — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:05:25 GMT

So she really is a monster...

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e. held, sun city, AZ — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:08:31 GMT

THIS CAMPAIGN DEMONSTRATES HILLARY'S 'LACK OF MANAGEMENT' SKILLS. Obama has out-organized, and out-managed Hillary. Obama has demonstrated the 'executive' skills needed in a president. Hillary has failed miserably.

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Yvan, Canada — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:08:56 GMT

Gosh you MSNBC is really in Obama's tank, I didn't believe this when people said this first. The posts here are just like: if Obama has any mistakes, then (1) Hillary has them too, or (2) it is Hillary's fault. Even after the final confirmation from Canada that the NAFTAgate is no Clinton's fault, you guys still are trying to hold Clinton's name in it. :)

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Dr.Strangedog, MI — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:17:00 GMT

How do you manage a failing campaign, same way you manage a declining country, with a strong support team. Obama has it Hillary doesn't. "Toughness" alone doesn't cut it. We've already experienced (elecetion buzz word) the Yosemite Sam policy. SHOOT 1st and worry about the cost never. YEEHA!

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Robin Mastro — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:17:02 GMT

Its like this do you really think the public cares about infighting with in the campaigns? Not really, everyone of us goes through the same things in our own work forces. Not everyone gets along all the time. What we care about are the facts, and situations in our nation. Clinton has solutions Obama has hope and inspiration. You can not run THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA on hope and inspiration. He has to have substance and solutions to turn our nation around and so far I just don't see it.

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seyi, chicago — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:26:21 GMT

I sit back and listen to all the democratic party elders who should be thinking of how they are going to win the white house back, despite its assurance for them a few weeks ago. If the democrats dont win the white house even with Obama being the nominee, the seeds were sown by the Clintons. Not only will the dems loose Obama supporters, they will loose the cross over republicans. It's becoming less exciting, and the youth that recently bought in, are beginning to see why they were never into this before. Obama's message and politics that has dominated pop culture and youth enthusiasm seemm to be going away. Let's thank Hillary. The reason why she wins big states, is because they are establishment filled with status quo politicians. It's a shame on the democratic party, huge shame that as a party dying for the white house, they have seemed to be pushing it back. If the republicans had a candidate that claimed and showed to be the future,

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GW — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:27:50 GMT

Well, Hillary isn't telling the truth about her foreign experience, is evasive and secretive about the White House papers ( the pardons----she, of course, will say she had nothing to do with it, nothing is ever her fault), tax returns and donations to the Clinton library, has managed a divisive campaign ( inside and outside the campaign) and is being hypocritical about Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief9 Her 3 am ad and her cynical offer to have him as a vp.
I know she is a good actress , but what does ths person have to qualify her being the president of the US?

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Kathy. Lansing Michigan — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:32:01 GMT

Honesty, disclosure and transparency count!!! She brought it up. "We don't know everything about Sen Obama" Well I googled both of them, and she has not mentioned the Paul V. Clinton fraud case and the media has not covered it. Let's see if MSNBC assumes the responsibility to report the news to the people about this and stops reporting all of this trivial news that is not as important as transparency.

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Bryn, Sandpoint ID — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:42:30 GMT

Money quote today on Andrew Sullivan's Daily Dish, from Kos' blog..."Saying that Hillary has Executive Branch experience is like saying Yoko Ono was a Beatle," - Kos commenter, Jsn. Thanks, Bryn

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Mark R., South Montrose, PA — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:43 GMT

Wow! A candidate who prefers "loyalty and familiarity to experience and expertise." Sure sounds a lot like President Bush!

Hillary considers her time in the White House as First Lady as part of her experience, stating that she was nearby when some of those "3AM phonecalls" came. Well, then! I have been married to a Maternity Nurse for 17 years, and was in the delivery room myself for the births of my seven children. I guess that gives me enough experience to open by own Maternity Clinic and bolster my income as a teacher with delivering babies.

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OBwan, IN — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:06:27 GMT

My goodness - you are saying it so eloquently. Yes management of the campaign does matter. Hillary just does not have it.

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sanford levine jupiter fl. — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:15:03 GMT

pundits of msnbc. THANK YOU FOR MAKING FOX NEWS FAIR AND BALANCED. and thank BUCHANAN FOR BEING ALLOWED TO SPEAK.YOUR NEW NAME SHOULD BE OBAMA STATION WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:25:03 GMT

Its absolutely fair, in my view. Her campaign is disorganized. Why would anyone expect her administration would be any better?

Fortunately we won't have to worry about it, because Obama has in insurmountable lead, unless superdelegates tear the party apart by going against the candidate that won the most pledged delegates.

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PulSamsara — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:25:10 GMT

That's just what America needs - to be run like Hillary's campaign. No Clinton - No way !

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Jessica — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:28:19 GMT

Billary will run the country the same way she has ran her campaign. She will surround herself with baffoons, mismanage our money, mis-step, mis-speak, and then apologies threw her teeth,and cry, whine, and beg. She will continue to make poor choices and have bad judgement. And lets not forget Bill!! He will be right there stuttering, smiling and chasing after the young girls-he's really good at that!

Scandal filled the WHite HOuse the last time the Clintons were there. Ask anyone what they remember about the Clinton Presidency and they will almost ALWAYS say Monica, Travelgate, Gennifer Flowers, or one of the other MANY other disgraceful things that come hand in hand with the CLintons.

The American people are sick of the scandal, fighting and pure garbage that is alive and well in Washington. That is why Obamas message is resonating with Millions of people. They want their leaders to cut the crap and get things done. Bickering and fighting belong in second grade-not the white house. The CLintons will never get past their past, but Americans are ready to move ahead.

This lastest garbage about Clinton having Obama as VP is laughable and anyone that is fooled is really gullable. Funny how she is offering Obama the VP when SHE will not be President. She is saying this because she know it is over for her and she is trying to get voters to think if they vote for her they would get both of them. She can't win. The math won't work. She can only hope to bribe the supers into going aginst the will of the voters and this will NEVER happen. The supers and elders know all about the Clintons, and most, with the exception of the likes of Rendell (whom will be questioned as a witness in the Clintons latest leagal scandal), and a few others that jumped on the Clinton bandwagon back last summer when she thought she would be crowned, are SICK of them and have been WAITING for the day when they could be given the boot. They know them well and want them GONE! I guess that time has come.

The funniest thing, is the fact that Billary continues to beg her supporters for money, even though SHE KNOWS that this is OVER. She wants them to give her their hard earned money for NOTHING!! Oh, I guess she wants to pay herself back the 5 mill she loaned herself. Guess she doesn't care about you after all!!!

Obama is already the winner and the longer this goes on the more pathetic and foolish Billary will look. It will be funny to see if she can win her Senate seat back when her term is over!!

Obama 08!

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Sharon J, Payson, AZ — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:31:26 GMT

I like both candidates, but looking at what is best for the country, Hillary Clinton has excellent judgement and is impressively intelligent. Over the years since she graduated from college, she has worked to make a difference. It is not fair to judge her campaign problems to how she would manage the White House; it's a very different scenerio.

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Pat Staley, Alexandria, OH — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:02:35 GMT

I am so tired of seeing and hearing that Muslim, Barack Obama. I am a Hillary supporter and if the Democratic Nominee is Barack - I am voting for Mr. Nader. (There are alot of my friends in Ohio that
feel the sam way -- only some of them are voting for
McCain) Do what you want but Barack will not be President.

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ErghIsTheNewYuk, NM — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:10:16 GMT

Those of you who are crying bias, note that MSNBC is quoting from a New York Times article. NYT is completely in Clinton's corner, so the NYT coverage is not as harsh as it could be. Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/us/politics/10clinton.html

Now here's another inside look at the Clinton campaign:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR2008030503621.html

These are the aides and advisers she chose, and this is how she's run her campaign. This is again the same management style she brought to the health care initiative in 1992--and that was a complete failure and did a lot of lasting damage.
Is this what a Hillary Clinton administration would be like? No, thanks. Please, no! The country needs and deserves better and smarter leadership; we've got a lot to do, and we can't afford this divisive, disrespectful, disorganized, and just plain dumb approach. Please think!

Who's run a great campaign, with amazing grass-roots support? OBAMA.

Reply to Sharon J:
Yes, it is fair to compare your ability to run these huge campaign operations to your ability to run the country, and to assess your management style.

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Elizabeth, Santa Monica, CA — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:14:15 GMT

What I'm amazed at is that the Canadian government has confirmed that the meeting with Obama took place, and that take on that meeting existed in a memo of a meeting with Brodie.

As for that last comment, does anyone actually think it indicts Clinton Or does it raise the issue that "sources" could go either way.

The whole story has had issues from the beginning. The AP reported it, saying the Clinton camp had "no comment". A full and flat denial had been posted on her website from the full and flat denial issued by her campaign spokesperson.

Get a grip. The press should to fact check first, not issue rumors and verify later.

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Mark Thieme — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:17:05 GMT

In 1932 Germany was ruled by a president weak and inept. He called for elections and won, but had to run again in a run-off.

The number 2 candidate (National Socialist) had gotten only 30% of the vote, but on a technicality of the Weimar Constitution, the winner must receive 60% of the vote cast (seemed like a good idea at the time).

In the run-off the president finally won and his closest challenger received 37% of the vote.

Nonetheless, the National Socialist challenger whimpered and whined enough to cause significant unrest in the nation, so the president offered him and another challenger a co-chancellorship, the number 2 job.

They agreed, but leader of the National Socialists, who had been the loudest whiner and the thorn in the side of democracy in Germany, (fast-forward a bit) betrayed everybody and ended up stealing the ball.

Though the Weimar Constitution was a model of liberal democracy, much like our own, the people waxed and waned in their support of a democratic republic. They seemed to prefer strong, tough, even ruthless leaders when the chips were down, as in this quirk of their constitution:

"...the constitution... contained several fatal flaws. One of the worst was Article 48 of the constitution, which granted dictatorial powers to the president in times of national emergency. Unfortunately, the president would frequently evoke this clause, and it ultimately proved the downfall of the Republic." (huppi.com/kangaroo/L)

Ironically, the National Socialists took over at the low point of their popularity. Their thug tactics had not won friends nor influenced people. But they ended up on top anyway... in a classic democratic constitutional republic! There you go.

The rest is... well, you know.

Clinton: Does management count?

Mark Thieme — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:55:46 GMT

The German Weimar Constitution called for and "absolute majority" in elections, otherwise, there would be a run-off. Over 50% is an absolute majority.

Point being, the loser in the election of 1932 won with a lot of back-room deal-making, thug tactics, and betrayal.

Whatever it takes, eh?

Who needs Karl Rove when you've got Hillary?

Clinton: Does management count?

Big Mama, Hattiesburg, MS — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:50:11 GMT

Wow -- just look how divided we all are, and not only that, how adamantly divided. Out of all the comments, only one is actually anti-Obama. Plenty are pro-Hillary, but not anti-Obama. So, the kid in OH: Obama may be president, and he is not Muslim. He has said so over and over.