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Michael — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:51:07 GMT

They'll be seated - after you do the right thing and drop out, you have ZERO legitimacy, and if the supers hand it to you, the Democratic Party will have no legitimacy (Party of the people, yeah right; I'll do like Republicans and start calling it the Democrat Party, after I go independent).

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CK — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:52:24 GMT

Don't worry Hillary. Once the super delegates move to Obama and secure his nomination. You can drop out. Then the Florida and Michigan Delegates will be sat at the convention. Problem solved.

Also, I didn't hear you screaming about disenfranchisement last year when the DNC said the delegates wouldn't be sat. Oh, that's right. You thought this would be over by Super Tuesday and it wouldn't matter.

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Joe, Bozeman, MT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:53:49 GMT

Self-service is not a virtue.

Neither is never admitting a mistake.

We already have a president that is self serving, and never admits a mistake.

Obama '08

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Diamond — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:55:17 GMT

This is the kind of devilish tactics she uses against anyone who disagrees with her. The same tactics she used against Cooper on healthcare mandates in 1993.

NOT ONLY THAT SHE SUPPORTS LAWLESSNESS, SHE HAS ERASED EVERY POSSIBILITY OF OBAMA ACCEPTING A REVOTE BECAUSE OF HER AGRESSIVE AND PATRONIZING TACTICS.

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the Pajama Pundit — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:55:36 GMT

Florida already said no. How would Obama change that?

Come on Hillary. Be realistic here. Obama is not your issue - the DNC is.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

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Ron, California — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:56:53 GMT

The Wright Stand
Judgment, character and Barack Obama.

By Peter Wehner

Several years ago my wife and children attended a Presbyterian church in Washington, D.C. We liked and respected the senior pastor, we had close friends in the congregation, and we felt spiritually nourished by the congregants and the worship. Two of our children were baptized there.

Not long after the attacks of September 11, my wife and I heard two different visitors — one in remarks during a church service, the other while teaching an adult Sunday-school class — that were derogatory of and inflammatory toward Israel.

Upon hearing the words of these two people — which I found both shocking and disquieting — I immediately raised concerns with the senior pastor. He tried to reassure me and then put me in touch with an associate pastor who was in charge of a ministry to Palestinian Christians (one I had been previously unaware of). I engaged in conversations and written correspondence with the associate pastor and the head of the board of elders over this issue; in the process, I discovered that our church hosted an annual conference which featured only speakers who were highly critical of the state of Israel. For the first time it became clear to me that the church we attended was deeply biased against the Jewish state. When what we deemed to be adequate counter steps were not taken, we left the church, in good measure because of this matter and how it was handled.

I thought of this episode in our lives in the aftermath of learning about the bigoted and vicious anti-American statements by Barack Obama’s pastor, friend, and spiritual adviser, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright Jr. of United Trinity Church of Christ.

I don’t for a moment believe that Senator Obama shares Wright’s manifold and manifest hatreds. What bothers me — particularly as one who has had good things to say about Obama in the past — is why Obama apparently never raised any concerns with Wright about his rhetoric or the black liberation theology being practiced at United Trinity. This was the obvious and appropriate thing to do.

Reverend Wright clearly preaches from a particular cast of mind, one with which Obama was surely familiar. If Obama isn’t willing to voice his concerns and objections with Wright and stand up for his country as it is being slandered by his pastor, what can we expect from Obama when he is asked to stand up against some of the world’s worst dictators?

The options aren’t particularly good for Senator Obama. He either agreed with the views and core beliefs of Reverend Wright, which would essentially disqualify him as a serious candidate for the presidency; or he didn’t agree with Wright but for decades sat passively by and accepted Wright’s teaching and rants. Didn’t Obama consider, even once, pulling Wright aside and pointing out — as any true friend would, in a civil but forceful way — that hailstones of hate simply have no place in a church and that the “social gospel” is not synonymous with preaching bigotry and anti-Americanism?

Beyond that, Senator Obama’s speech on Tuesday, for all the praise it has garnered in many quarters, created additional doubts about Obama’s candor and his willingness to speak up and speak out against a charismatic, forceful, and pernicious figure.

ABC News reports that earlier this month Obama, at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, said, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.” Obama went on to say, “[Wright] has said some things that are considered controversial because he’s considered that part of his social gospel; so he was one of the leaders in calling for divestment from South Africa and some other issues like that.”

Last Friday, as Senator Obama was making the round on cable TV trying to explain Wright’s remarks that were being replayed over and over again, Obama indicated that he had never heard his pastor of 20 years make any comments that were anti-American until last week. But in his Philadelphia speech two days ago, Senator Obama seemed to change his explanation:

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely — just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.

But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country.

This is where things begin to get sticky for Obama. In half-a-month we’ve gone from Wright and his church being essentially non-controversial; to Obama implying that the venomous statements by Wright came as news to him; to admitting that he was in the pews when Wright spoke as a “an occasionally fierce critic” of American domestic and foreign policy. Those remarks were so fierce that even Obama, himself an orthodox liberal who has scorched the Bush administration, was clearly made uncomfortable by what Wright said.

It also begs the question: What exactly did Wright say that Obama strongly disagreed with? Was Wright in fact presenting a “profoundly distorted view of this country”? The odds are a good deal better than even that he was. But Obama has yet to answer those questions — and he probably won’t, at least with any specificity, unless he’s forced to do so. This story, which seemingly changes in every re-telling, is beginning to resemble nothing so much as Bill Clinton’s evolving explanation about his draft notice. It was then that most of America was introduced to “Slick Willie.”

Senator Obama’s speech on Tuesday was a brilliant effort to deflect attention away from what remains the core issue: what did Obama hear, when did he hear it, and what did he do about it? The answers, as best we can tell at this stage, is that Obama heard some very harsh things said from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ; that Obama heard them said a long time ago and probably repeatedly; and that he did little or nothing about it. This from a man who tells us at almost every stop along the campaign trail that he has the “judgment to lead.”

One always wants to be careful about making sweeping conclusions about any individual, particularly one as interesting and compelling as Senator Obama. All of us, in replaying our lives, would change certain things. We would all hope to show more integrity, more courage, more honor. Nevertheless, in a presidential campaign we have to judge based on the available evidence. And given his deep and long-standing association with Reverend Wright, it is fair to ask whether Senator Obama — a gifted writer and speaker and a man of obvious intelligence and appeal — has the appropriate judgment and character to lead this nation. Spending 20 years at Trinity United Church of Christ under the leadership of Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. doesn’t tell us everything we need to know about Barack Obama — but it may well tell us enough.

— Peter Wehner, former deputy assistant to the president, is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center

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Steven, New York, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:56:57 GMT

This is what Hillary said on 10/10/07 regarding the MI Primary and leaving her name on the ballet: "It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

Here's the audio of that statement:
http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

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fortuna, Houston, TX — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:57:01 GMT

Psssstt ... hey you, yeah you - Senator Clinton. Obama isn't blocking the revote in Michigan. The Michigan legislature is.

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jc — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:57:15 GMT

All I know is we don't need a racis, hate mongering, unamerican liar, running for President. Tell the Hussein guy to go to Pakistan.

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Patty,sd,ca — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:58:16 GMT

While I do not believe Obama is a Muslim or that he is unpatriotic. I also do not truely believe he shares the same views as Rev Wright. I however now more convinced after the speech yesterday then before that he just does not stand up to tough issues. I still think it is a weakness to not stand up and try to unite the race starting from that church. Obama did not show that he is willingly to fight for unity at all levels. The idea that he is just now standing up and speak out against division between black and white is weak because it has self serving interest all over it. Now that he has much to loose, he is willing to speak out. However, when there is not presidential election on the line, then it was ok to allow hate to spread in front of you for 20 years. That right there is something I can not reconcile.

Clinton 08

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diane — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:58:21 GMT

the desperation is showing.
Nora Odonnell just said that she will contest the nominee if florida and michigan are not going to revote.
unbelievable. she is a joke.

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fortuna, Houston, TX — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:58:24 GMT

Desparation is not an attractive trait.

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Ron, TX — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:59:03 GMT

She said she would support finding a way to seat the two states' delegates regardless of the outcome. "I would be in favor of fixing this problem no matter what my position," she said. "I have been consistently in favor of it. Remember, I'm the one who kept my name on the ballot. I had no idea what the outcome would be."

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THAT is why some people HATE Hillary. She's a two-faced liar. It's not irrational. It's manifested right there. Compare that statement to her prior one, in which she declares she only left her name on the ballot because she knew it wouldn't count.

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Chris, Dorr, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:59:19 GMT

I'm sure at times Senator Obama, especially early in his career, has had to maneuver as a traditional politician, in order to build a base. I won't hold that against him.

How sad would it be if we, as a country, would reject the most hopeful, potentially great president in generations, simply because his pastor has serious issues to work out?

I'm a 48 yr old white male from MI. I have some college and earn around 50k yr. I am not naive and do not drink kool-aid. Please don't insult my intelligence by accusing me of being brain washed. I can assure you, I am not.

I think MI should not have a re-vote. After Senator Obama has secured the nomination, I'm certain a reasonable solution to seating MI and FL delegates will be reached. You can not change the rules once the contest has begun. PERIOD

I do not hate Hillary or Bill. I try not to hate anyone. I could not bear it if she were to steal the nomination and if she were to pull it off I would vote for someone else.

We as a country have a once in a lifetime opportunity to take this great country, that I served honorably, to a place we could only dream of. Please give this man a chance. If history teaches us anything, Hill or McCain will be more of the same.

I appreciate all of the intelligent opinions here but not the thoughtless words of hate and intolerance.

Obama/Webb 08'

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Geoff — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:59:21 GMT

"Remember, I'm the one who kept my name on the ballot." So is she admitting that she lied when she pledged not to participate in the Michigan primary?

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Steve B. New York, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:59:25 GMT

DESPERATION
DESPERATION
DESPERATION
DESPERATION

IT's SOOOO FUNNY ... OH MY GOD

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Patty,sd,ca — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:59:59 GMT

Self-service is not a virtue.

Neither is never admitting a mistake.

We already have a president that is self serving, and never admits a mistake

Obama '08

Joe, Bozeman, MT (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:53 PM)

I think its Obama that has to admit it was a mistake joining wright's church.

and that "race" speech was self-serving.

Clinton 08

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Mel — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:05 GMT

I find it profoundly ironic that the candidate that is attempting to take the nomination DESPITE the fact that her opponent has won MORE STATES, MORE DELEGATES, and MORE POPULAR VOTE (even WITH Florida and Michigan outcomes COUNTED) is questioning the legitimacy of the nominee...Basically, she is saying that if SHE is NOT the Nominee then it MUST be illigitimate.

Further, Florida and Michigan are NOT Obama's FAULT.

Those states did this to themselves. The voters need to blame their legislators and hold THEM accountable for this.

That said, Obama has NEVER said he does not want a re-vote. His campaign LEGITIMATELY objected to the re-vote at which MI was looking for legal reasons, it would have been an utter mess - the vote MI was suggesting would have disenfranchised thousands of Independents and Democrats...

I agree with Hillary, these states ARE important. Too bad she did not fight this hard when the DNC decided to strip the two states of their deligates - THAT was the time to fight...and she said NOTHING...she made NO NOISE.

Come ON MSNBC - while Hillary is whining about this, there are REAL issues being discussed...like the economy - see Obama's speech on it today.

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Ban Johnson — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:11 GMT

Now Clinton is telling us the overwhelmingly likely nominee of her party will be illegitimate. Before he just wasn't ready to be commander in chief. Thanks again, Hillary.

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R. Graham, New York, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:22 GMT

HRC: "I have been consistently in favor of it. Remember, I'm the one who kept my name on the ballot. I had no idea what the outcome would be. I did not run advertising in Florida. I abided by the rules and did not campaign in Florida. I didn't know what the outcome would be."

Complete and utter misstatement. I wish I could find the quote, but she clearly stated in November of last year that it was to her understanding that the delegates in those states would not be seated as a result of breaking party rules by moving their primaries above 2-5-08. She claims to not know what the outcome was going to be today when she claimed last year she understood what the outcome would be.

So she was for not seating the delegates before she was against it? Flip flopper anyone? The Republicans will eat this all up in November.

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:47 GMT

Desperation=Hillary Clinton Everyone (even Mr. Penn in his deluded fantasy world of spin) knows that you no longer have a path to the nomination without napalming the Democratic Party. Hopefully you'll come to your senses and bow out before Pennsylvania. I still like Bubba and I would like for him to still be able to restore some of his legacy before you tarnish it further.

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LB, Virginia — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:49 GMT

Come on Montana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Puerto Rico, South Dakota, Guam, Kentucky, Oregon and West Virginia!! Give the big boot to Hillary so we can go forward in this country!! We did it here in Virginia, and you can too! Together, yes WE can!

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Marte, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:00:59 GMT

Funny how "interested" Hillary became in the rights of MI and FL voters after the fact. She was fine with the DNC ruling when she was the frontrunner, even saying she knew their votes wouldn't count and that was a consequence worth paying to follow the DNC rules.

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J fl — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:01:02 GMT

Once the superdelegates realize Obama is a white and Jew hating racist, they will have to come back to Hillary, when they were correct in the first place. The tide is turning quickly.

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ME, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:01:36 GMT

Senator Clinton:
Your legitimacy is at stake. You told us last October that the Michigan vote "didn't really count." That was when you figured nobody could touch you. Now you tell us it matters.

Your word has no legitimacy.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:01:51 GMT

Whoever the nominee is, the day after Denver, CO, they will be considered legitimate. (Especially if they won by following the rules).

Should Sen. Obama win w/o MI and FL's say, it just won't be a major issue for the general election.
and
Should Sen. Clinton steal the vote, Obama supporters will be P.O.ed for awhile, but sadly will in all likelihood support the nominee after a couple of weeks. (See the conservatives ass-kissing of McCain).

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campdog — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:02:16 GMT

Obama should agree and get with Clinton on Florida and Michigan and let the chips fall where they may. What arguement can be offered that supports eliminating the votes of registered Democrats.

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:02:25 GMT

HILLARY!

The Obama camp offered to seat the Michigan delegates and evenly splitting the delegate vote. You ARE saying you would support finding a way to seat the deleagtes NO MATTER the outcome. No MATTER the outcome. Well, the way has been provided and you have turned it down. Do not, DO NOT, any longer place this on Obama.

(Hillary sounds very desparate today. I wonder if she has received a call from Edwards telling her he was going to endorse Obama tonight).

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ohio — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:02:31 GMT

Obama will seat the Michigan and Florida delegates as soon as he is the nominee. Hillary knows this. Everyone knows this. This is Hillarys last game.

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honesty matters — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:04 GMT

hillary now seen as dishonest and untrustworthy:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105097/Perceived-Honesty-Gap-Clinton-Versus-Obama-McCain.aspx

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Chris, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:11 GMT

Obama is not "against" a re-vote in Michigan. His campaign quite honestly and, in my mind effectively, brought several issues with the plan as presented to the state congress. Their position is that a re-vote would not be the best way to rectify the situation, and also, "Hey, you'll probably get sued a whole bunch of times, which is totally your call."

Both campaigns were asked to vet the plan as presented. The Obama campaign did so with true professionalism. The Clinton campaign never spoke to the specifics of the plan. Never talked about the burdens on local officials except in terms of the cost, which they begged Democratic donors to carry. Has done nothing but spew sound bytes and disinformation designed to make them look like defenders of the innocent when in reality, they are nothing but vote-grubbing panderers.

Stay out of Michigan, Hillary. You only pretend to care about our problems once every four years, anyway. Hey, you got off lucky this year: you didn't even have to pretend to care until you were losing, and now, the only Michigan problem you care about is one you and your cronies and staffers helped create.

Don't treat us like we're stupid. "Remember, I'm the one who kept my name on the ballot. I had no idea what the outcome would be." Oh, please. You knew exactly what the outcome would be.

And we will remember.

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David Konyn, Eugene, Oregon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:22 GMT

Hillary claims that she didn't "campaign in Florida"? That's simply not true. Will she get away with saying this?

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Kenneth --- Sweden — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:29 GMT

Desperation is too bad !!! It subdues human conscience.
Hillary is DESPERATE

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Unbelievable — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:29 GMT

Can't somebody call this woman on her LIES?

First Read: please copy/paste her statement last October about why she kept her name on the ballot: it was because "the vote doesn't matter."

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Iowa — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:34 GMT

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Did Hillary forget that SHE agreed that Michigan and Florida wouldn't matter? Oh, that's right, that was BEFORE she was losing!!!

Has she forgotten that one of her cronies, Ickies, helped create and push through the rule that if these states moved up their primaries they would be punished? Oh thats right, that doesn't matter.

Did Hillary forget that she is asking the super delegates to go against the will of the voters and "crown" her even though NOW she claims she is soooo concerned about "disenfranchising millions of voters". What about all the voters she is wiling to disenfranchise if the supers go against the will of the people?

Oh, thats right. None of that matters. The only thing that matters is that she wins.

You Hillary supporters are fools and Billary and her crew are the laughing stock of this election.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Obama 08

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Pam, South Carolina — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03:37 GMT

I was a Hillary supporter but at the last minute changed to Obama. I regret that decision because I listened to Clinton speak this past year and she was right on the issues concerning this country back then. Obama was into rhetorical speeches about nothing. Now there is a trust issue, along with a competency issue. It is not about his race, he needs to stop crying foul and playing the race card, he is not qualified nor deserves the office of the President of the USA. He has made poor choices and he has not stopped his supporters, mostly blacks and white college kids from all the hatred and racial remarks on the blogs. I hope people make the right decision, because we are in very big trouble right now and Hillary will make the country and the economy strong again and will work towards rebuilding our reputation around the world.

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Morris — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:04:42 GMT

Please...will someone find a way to make this woman go AWAY.

The irony is Hillary already knows that she can not win a general election. Her support among AA in a GE has fallen below 50% which is why she is trailing McCain. The only bright spot for her is to make sure that Obama can't win in a GE to give her a shot (so she thinks)in 2012. Well forget it lady after this primary you will be a greater outcast in the democratic party than Kerry ever was in trying for a second run.

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Mark, Cleveland, OH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:05:37 GMT

She can spin, spin, spin but she can't hide from the PLEDGE that she SIGNED. She either didn't think about the ramifications of signing that pledge, which doesn't portend well for her thinking as POTUS. Or she thought she'd be so far ahead, primary in the bag that it didn't matter.

Either way the furthest thing from her mind was the welfare of the Michigan and Florida voters.

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Matt — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:05:43 GMT

Oh man, she is such a self-serving hypocrite.

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Andrew T., South Bend, IN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:05:44 GMT

I don't understand how she can sit there, with a straight face, and blame Obama for Michigan and Florida not wanting to do a re-vote. For those that don't know, the short story is, both states decided that there was not enough time to have a legitimate revote. There were concerns, on both sides, that a re-vote funded with soft money would not be on the level. I'm sure there will be a compromise and both states will be represented. That said, please Senator Clinton, stop with the lies!!!!

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BL, Cincinnati OH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:23 GMT

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/09/nyregion/09clinton.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305485,00.html

One of these days this will get covered by the MSM.

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GPH, Whitehouse, NJ — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:27 GMT

Big Money owns the two party political system and the media. Every four years, Big Money presents its bought and paid for candidates, the media shoves them down out throats, and 50 percent of the electorate stays home.

This year, Big Money offers McCain and Clinton. He's already trying to start WWIII; she's famous for selling pardons to terrorists to win a senate campaign.

The people of this nation deserve better.

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docrock,tx — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:45 GMT

What has happened to my formerly great blog page?You are starting to look just like Obamas' website.I know six people that complain about their postings not showing up,but the Obamabots seem to be posted constantly.What is up with that?Please lose your "fox news" mentality,and try to regain your once-great integrity.Although you are still my favorite news cast,your blog seems to have been taken over by Jeremiah Wright and his "Church of Love(?)".Please come back MSNBC.We need you.

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Reality Check — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:47 GMT

October 2007 Hillary Clinton: "I'm leaving my name on the ballot because the Michigan vote is "not going to count for anything."

March 2008 Hillary Clinton: "I have been consistently in favor of it. Remember, I'm the one who left my name on the ballot."

Anyone who votes for this woman has ZERO self-respect.

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Reality Check — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:47 GMT

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LB, Virginia — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:56 GMT

Why should Obama agree to a revote paid for by Hillary supporters? For goodness sake, they might just print up the ballots again without his name on it!!

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Jill - De — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:06:59 GMT

I can't believe this woman - Hillary Clinton has no shame - I feel for you Hillary Supporters - My guy might have sat through a sermon at church but your lady is hell bent on destroying this party and possibly the country to get what she deems as her birth right.

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MR — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:07:17 GMT

This smells like desparation to me...who would have thunk it one year ago! Wasn't she the front runner, inevitable, already picking out her furniture. THis is HILLarious

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Tom — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:07:56 GMT

Hey Chuck why don't you guys tell your friends on MSNBC that Gallup has a new tracking poll out that has it getting closer again and a CBS poll for the same time has Obama ahead. Or does this just continue the narrative you want to have out there

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Mox — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:07:57 GMT

ck thats called stealing an election. You know the think earlier Obam and his followers ranted and threatened everyone even the special delagates. Wonder if they will remember that? Wonder in Nov. if they remember Obama thinking there vote counts only if he can win them when he tried before in MI to have people vote uncomitted and Hillary still won. She went to Fl and MI after the vote to thank them not knowing what would happen. Its called class and careing about everyone.He will get it just not ready yet obama.He cannt be bothered with anyone less he needs them in next vote.His speech hid the economic try he did and it lost 97-0 he didnt even vote himself for it. Big laugh on tv over that.Showed his flip flops on war he is so not going to get this.Let MI and FL seat what they have than. If he does manage a steal he will never see Pres. win.gallop poll has Hillary over obam 49-42 and pa.51-35 pa.

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Hillary — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:08:09 GMT

Oh please Barack let me cheat, just this once.

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seeingtheforestthroughthetrees — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:08:22 GMT

they will be seated all right- after obama does the right thing and bows out.....we do not need another racist as our nominee we've all been through that already,...let's move on and nominate the one candidate that can win in November....Obama doesn't stand a chance against Carl Rove, they'll drop him like a bad habit!!!

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Nick, Brooklyn — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:08:22 GMT

"I'm the one who kept my name on the ballot. I had no idea what the outcome would be."

That is too funny. She's so right...how could she have predicted that she would win against Sen. Dodd and Uncommitted?

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colene, New York, New York — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:08:33 GMT

um, excuse me. i thought clinton's legitimacy was at stake.

what a load of hogwash.

obama's the real deal folks unless you would actually prefer more lies and more corruption, more of YOUR INTERESTS not being priority in washington.

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LB, Virginia — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:08:34 GMT

Hillary doesn't mind diss'ing the caucus states she lost, but suddenly has found religion on protecting the rights of voters in states she thinks she can win? Please see the hypocrisy in this woman before it's too late!

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Don, Dayton, OH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:09:01 GMT

If I lived in MI or FL, I would be totally ticked off that my state and my vote would not be counted. Plenty of people in both states voted, in spite of the fact that it had been stated extensively in the news that the Democratic delegates would not be seated. I would have voted anyway, too, just in CASE there was a change of heart and the Dems decided to seat the delegates in line with the actual primary results. I figure I'm just an average Joe (like most other people), so I don't think my feelings are that much out of the mainstream. Obama does not want to have the delegates seated because he's afraid Clinton will then have an edge on the popular vote and, therefore, a good argument to make to the American people and the super delegates. What Obama isn't counting on is the fact that all of those disenfranchised voters will NOT cast their vote for him in a general election for the very fact that he didn't stand up for them in the primary. Obama won't have a chance in the world in either MI or FL in the general. And that means only one thing.....John McCain will be our next president.

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No dignity — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:09:52 GMT

Legitimacy of the nominee? Is this woman for REAL?

Hmmmmmm.......

Knowing the rules and then trying to change them in the middle of the game, yeah that sounds REAL legitimate.

Lying about your "experience", yeah that sounds real legitimate.

Asking the super delegates to go against the will of the people and crown her queen, that sounds like disenfranchising the voters, and real legitimate.

This woman has NO dignity or respect.

This entire election is turning into the biggest joke of the century and the Clinton name is ALL OVER IT!!!

Give it up now, and try to save your Senate seat Billary.

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CB — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:06 GMT

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the "Fellowship," aka The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

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Anne from OHIO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:07 GMT

Can anyone please tell me what was so awful about the 90's?
Economy was stable....
401ks were holding up well....
people had money in their pockets...
WHAT was so awful about this? Clinton took a deficit and turned it into a surplus within 3 years...
WHAT WAS SO BAD ABOUT THIS ???
PA Voter (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:23 AM)
Dear PA Voter,

You are right the 90’s went bad, but only thanks to Bill Clinton. His wife was busy with the Travel Gate and getting herself into a lot of trouble. Do we really want another republican in the White House? That is what will happen if Hillary is the nominee; the republicans will have a field day with her because of her long history in DC. They know too much about her, and know a lot of her skeletons! Just remember It was her husbands presidency not hers, she only made trouble for herself and the republicans will remember that and will use it against her in the fall.

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Noel, Hot Springs, AR — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:08 GMT

Maybe $12,000,000 just wasn't enough to buy you an election.

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Banko — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:29 GMT

Bye, Bye Hillary. It's over.

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She has no shame — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:42 GMT

This is getting ridiculous. She continues to act as if America does not have a brain and does not compare one statement she makes to the next.

Hey Reporters: can you start doing your job and question this woman on her complete lack of consistency (I'm being nice here, the fact is she's lying)?

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OBwan, IN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:50 GMT

Say how is that Peter Paul v Clinton lawsuit in CA coming along.

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TT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:10:56 GMT

Drop Out, Hillary! The game is over.

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DC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:11:21 GMT

Hillary, that is a lie. You have not been consistently in favor of seating the delegates. Your interviews last October prove this.

Hillary, remember what happened to Pinocchio when he kept lying.

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Voice of Reason, Anytown, USA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:11:41 GMT

I think Obama better get on top of this and make some loud, clear announcements asap. He'd better show his support for those voters, and I know he supports their rights -- but just wants to play by the rules.

Obama: get out there! Don't let her get away with it.

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jeff in the Redwoods, Arcata, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:20 GMT

Have the Clintons ever done or said anything that is not self-serving? A rhetorical question, the answer is NO. Their sense of entitlement has no bounds. Obama '08!

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phi — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:29 GMT

"I have been consistently in favor of it."

Is it just me or is the media not doing what it should be? Like pointing out to pretty well known fact that Clinton, talking on NPR before Iowa, that Michigan would "count for nothing." Unbelievable.

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:30 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a real piece of work.

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nomoreclinton — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:39 GMT

please clintons just go home please you make sick now i vote for you in supertuesday now ill dont wanna hear you again even you win this nomination ill never vote for you again !

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Gary, Warren, Mi — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:54 GMT

I find almost everyone I talk to that supports Obama knows very little about him! People need to really get to know a candidate before backing them. Obama is one of the best double talkers I have seen. says one thing a year ago and then says another just like any other political figure including Hillary.
But I do know what I get with Hillary, I have looked very hard at Obama and there is just way to much dirt that has not come out yet and McCain will eat him alive. Let Mich. and Fla. Have a do over.

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Enrique, Chicago — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:12:56 GMT

The headline should read "Hillary Destroys Democratic Party." Barack Obama did not write the rules of the DNC that stripped FL and MI of their delegates. Barack Obama can not tell the legislatures of FL and MI whether or not to do re-votes.

The longer Hillary stays in the race the clearer it becomes that she is preparing another run in 2012. She would rather punish our country and help John McCain win in November than allow Barack the opportunity to get us out of the mess that George W. Bush has created.

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Just Wondering — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:13:18 GMT

Is she trying to drive her negatives into Bushian territory? Pretty soon, Bush will have the Christian Right and Hillary will have women over 60. The rest of the country will move on.

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t, ny, ny — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:13:21 GMT

HRC--"Sticks and stones may break his bones, but words will never hurt him!"

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twocanpete — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:13:53 GMT

http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
Rules? Democrats don't need no stinking rules! If the illegals should just be able to walk into this country and get full benefits why shouldn't the Michiganders be able to vote even though they broke the rules? There is more then enough 'victim status' to around in this party.

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HillarLies — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:14:44 GMT

What A Freaking LIAR!

She left her name on the ballot because she an opportunity to get an unfair advantage. She said "That primary doesn't even matter" but now she claims that she has been in support of michigan from the beginning.

I know you woman shouting "You go girl" want to see a woman in the white house but look past that for a minute and ask yourself how you can believe anything she says

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Rog, Toledo, OH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:15:11 GMT

Hillary,

You should really stop talkin out of both sides of your mouth. This is really becoming tiresome.

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Dan K, Washington DC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:15:21 GMT

Talk about legitimacy of the nominee - the entire premise of Hillary's "fight" is to convince the supers to circumvent the will of the voters. If the supers tip the balance to her favor despite an Obama lead in pledged delegates and the popular vote, I'm voting for McCain in the general. Not only will she lose legitimacy, but so will the DNC.

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M/G — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:16:08 GMT

Too bad Hillary and her rich doners that offered to pay for the election scared the Michigan Legislators and caused them to think the election would not be fair and proper. This is all a desperate show just like the one she put on when she went to Florida to celebrate her hollow victory in that primary. It's time for them to go! We've had enough!!!

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JohnnyU, WA State — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:16:24 GMT

If she were ahead she'd have no problem considering herself the "legitimate" candidate w/o Mich being counted.

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Dan, Iowa — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:17:44 GMT

Sure she made sure her name didn't come off of the ballot, but only after her staff voted to remove Florida and Michigan delegates if they tried to move their primaries forward. And then only after everyone else had already removed theirs, as per their understanding of the agreement they signed.

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Barb Reno NV — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:18:19 GMT

Hillary, my poor mother thinks the world of you. She loves her democratic party & her country. Why do you seem so intent on tearing them both apart?

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ep-ny — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:18:56 GMT

well another vedio out with Obama and his pastor. someone from mccain's camp suspended but its out there and it begins again.Ferrara stepped up and left Hillary and Obama still useing her in his speech to justify rants of anti american pastor unreal. She didnt sat anything near this pastor.she was still getting hate emails and threats . From these posts I can believe that. Obama should let these 2 states voices be heard. Just seat them in MI give Obama the undecided vote he tried to get people to do against hillary.Fl seat as is. Obama campaigned there when he said he wouldnt. He shouldnt even have a say.He broke his pledge.He so doesnt want these 2 to vote to hurt Hillary and hi jack this election.60% in peoples poll say if he wins it will be illegitimate win. Think they will vote for him?not!69% will be alienated in Nov/ He has so messed up but his own power is most important to him not us the people ,party or country. Another pastor has come to light too.It just wont end now till Nov. He might as well seat them.

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gordon, Portland, Or — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:19:13 GMT

Does she have any idea how transparent she is? Seriously, it is like she is on her own planet. When will the media stop trying to play this as if it is close? I know nobody wants to be seen as the one to force her out but the time has come.

How much more of this mischief and distraction do we need to see before we own up to the fact that THIS IS OVER!

With no Florida and Michigan re-votes it is clear that she can't win the popular vote (which incidentally isn't the point system in this race), she can't beat him in pledged delegates, and she has already lost the majority of states.

Do we let her continue to run on the premise that she will suddenly sway the super delegates despite her overwhelming and obvious failure to win over the country? It isn't gonna happen and we need to call her little temper tantrum to an end.

I know Obama is risky as a candidate in the general but the Democrats will not survive as a party if they give this one to her. The future of the party has spoken and even if it costs them this time it is simply suicidal to follow the wishes of the waning part of a wave at the expense of the wave that has yet to crest.

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Tim, South Lyon, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:19:25 GMT

This is not Obama's thing! Come on! Some of her supporters actually believe this? Yep Obama has the power to make the Michigan Legislature go through and vote on this and pass the bill. If he had that kind of power he would have won the nomination already. I'm with CK. If you really cared about it why didn't you voice your opinion to your supporter Granholm back in the fall when the DNC said the MI and FL delegates wouldn't be seated. Sen. Clinton had no plans for after Feb 5th because she was cocky enough to think she would have won it by then.

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Chris, Dorr, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:19:55 GMT

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csmith — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:20:03 GMT

Isn't there a rule that independents and dems who voted in Rep primary cannot vote in this new primary? Many crossed over because they were told that their votes wouldn't count. How is that fair?

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sg, michigan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:20:08 GMT

Why won't Hillary give up on this issue? She must be really desperate.

At this point, it's not up to her or Obama to reinstate Michigan's primary election. Right now it's the Michigan legislature holding up authorizing such election. And it's not likely to happen.

I wish Hillary would stop blaming Obama for this too. She knows better.

Furthermore, I wish she would stop playing the martyr over the Michigan primary. She signed a pledge ensuring her (or any candidate's) vote wouldn't count. Why the sudden flip-flop?

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jeanie, saint inigoes, md — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:21:26 GMT

Balogna Hillary! Everything YOU do is self-serving.

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James, Wichita, KS — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:21:38 GMT

Hillary, it is time leave the race so we can get on with the fight against McCain. You are continuing to hurt the Democratic Party.

Those delegates will be seated based on the popular vote nation-wide, mark my words.

http://laststopmidwest.blogspot.com/

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Bee, NH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:22:24 GMT

Hillary Clinton words doesn't hold water any more. If she says white, it is definitely black.

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Black American, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:24:55 GMT

The super delegates will soon have a caucas. I hope they go with public sentiment. Obama will lose a general election. Not only because the $250,000 he had to give to charity because given by Rezko, but silently approving of Rev. Wrights inappropriate statements but also his assocaition with Willaim Ayers. WHAT DOES THIS SPELL!

We need to come toegther behind one candidate to stop the bleeding George Bush is causing like a 1 trillion dollar war.

People - Read My Lips - No more republicans!

Write your the superdelegates in your state to support Senator Clinton!

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r taylor — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:25:08 GMT

does anyone remember the speech given by Arafat's wife that accused the government of Israel of practicing "daily genocide" on the children of Palestine? Hillary Clinton, in her role of first lady, was present at that speech, and gave Arafat a hug and a kiss afterward. The picture of the kiss and passive stance of Clinton created a real furor in the world's press.
Clinton's behavior was appalling, and Arafat's words were much worse than anything Obama's pastor said.
I wonder if any bloggers out there can google the speech and picture of Clinton and Arafat and get it up on the web?
Clinton spent a lot of time during her senate run in 2000 trying to blame this away. Is this the smoking gun that Clinton has been worried about? Perhaps. But if that story and associated picture make it up on the mainstream internet, CLinton is going to have a world of trouble.

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Tiffany — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:26:02 GMT

Such hyprocisy by the Clinton campaign. I myself would love to see the delegates of Flordia & Michigan seated, however, rules are rules. You CAN NOT change the rules in the middle of the game. BOTH candidates agreed (and signed affadavits) that the delegates would NOT be seated. Where was this outrage a 1 1/2 years ago? Where was this outrage when Clinton was winning? Where was this outrage when she was stating her agreement to the terms on national tv & radio.
To now do her best to PUNK & ACCUSE the Obama campaign seems a bit desperate and very fraudulent. I am tired of all of the childish antics of this campaign. I feel no sympathy for the candidate only for the voters. I feel these delegates should be seated in a way that won't cost the taxpayers $ and that will also be fair. I say split them down the middle and call it a day. It saves money & everyone should be happy. To suggest seating the delegates based on the votes cast in January would be a farce. And to blame Obama for this mess is epitome of hypocrisy!

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Black American, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:27:06 GMT

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adam/nyc — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:27:06 GMT

So, in the Clinton World an candidate who changes the rules and calls for a privatized election paid for by her donors is legit?

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Don, detroit, mi — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:27:41 GMT

Hillary is quoted in her interview with New Hampshire public radio saying that she understood the votes there would not count and that it was the states fault for going against DNC rules:

"NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot?"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

The audio is here: http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

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Farmer Brown, former IN resident — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:27:54 GMT

I grew up near Terre Haute. Unfortunately due to the tar and RR tie factories, the smell was pretty bad. Between the normal background smell and the upcoming fertilizer in the corn fields, they may not recognize the additional smell from what the HRC is spreading today!

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Alan, NJ — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:27:55 GMT

Check out the RCP site. It has a number of state-by-state polls from around 3/16. I know these are pretty meaningless at this point but the shocker for me was that in a McCain/Obama match-up MA is tied!

In MO McCain is beating Obama by 14, in OH McCain leads by 7, in MN McCain leads by 1. In the McCain/Clinton match she is only losing to McCain in MO by 2 points...she is ahead in the others.

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kathleen — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:28:02 GMT

HOW CAN THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS AFFORD 12 MILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR TO BRING DEMOCRACY TO IRAQ ----EVERY HOUR, EVERY DAY, FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS, GOING ON 6 NOW---YET WE CANNOT AFFORD 12 MILLION DOLLARS FOR AN ELECTION IN MICHIGAN?

HOW MANY ELECTIONS DID WE PAY FOR IN IRAQ?

I AM AN OBAMA FAN. EVERY NIGHT I READ THE OCT 2, 2002 SPEECH AND WEEP, BUT IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE MICHIGAN VOTERS, IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE FLORIDA VOTERS.
I AM DATING MYSELF, "BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE." THE DNC AND THE STATE LEGISLATURES IN FL AND MI DID NOT LET THE VOTERS KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. MY FRIENDS EARN ABOUT 300,000 A YEAR FOR THE UNIV OF MICH AND THEY DIDNT KNOW.
OH YEAH, THE RULES. THE DNC NEEDS TO ADMIT THEIR ROLE IN SCREWING THINGS UP FOR THE POOR VOTERS INSTEAD OF ACTING ALL HOLIER THAN THOU AND THEY SHOULD PAY FOR IT. THEY CREATED THIS MESSED UP SYSTEM, FAVORING WHITE VOTERS IN NH AND IOWA 200 X AS MUCH AS A BLACK VOTER IN DETROIT OR A CUBAN IN MIAMI.

EVERY VOTER SHOULD COUNT. THE VOTERS IN MICH AND FLOR SHOULD BE VALUED AT LEAST AS MUCH AS THE VOTERS IN IRAQ. HOW MUCH DID WE PAY FOR THEIR VOTE?

BUT HILLARY SAYING THE ELECTION WAS FAIR?
BARACK TOOK HIS NAME OFF BECAUSE HE DIDNT CARE ABOUT MICHIGAN?
SHE FORGOT SHE PROMISED TO TAKE HERS OFF?
I'M ASHAMED SHE USED TO BE MY SENATOR.

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MJ — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:28:17 GMT

So, the people of Michigan and Florida should have their voices and votes counted, but then we should disregard the voices and votes of everyone, and let the superdelates pick Clinton.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:28:57 GMT

"Clinton suggested Obama was afraid to have a re-vote. 'For the life of me, I don't understand why Sen. Obama seems to be afraid of letting there be a re-vote in Michigan,' she said."

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Nice...play the "chicken" card!

It's not Senator Obama's fault that the DNC voted not to seat the delegates, Senator Clinton. Go ask your advisor, Harold Ickes, why the delegates aren't being seated.

Likewise, then, it should not be up to either you or Senator Obama to see to it that the delegates are seated.

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Robert, Joshua Tree, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:03 GMT

Michael, CK, Joe
Hey guys, What are you so afraid of? Clinton drop out? Don't count the votes of over 2.5 million citizens who deserve to be heard? You all certainly want to be heard. Otherwise why the blog, blog, blog? Are you being paid? Hmm, I wonder by whom?

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High On Change — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:11 GMT

Hillary needs to stuff a sock in it. The states themselves have ruled out a revote. Anyway, I thought she won MI and FL already, mostly because she broke her word to the Democratic Party. Oh well, that is how the Clinton's run things. Whatever works for them.

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Democrat in CT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:19 GMT

The latest news clip that I read had Obama saying (supported by Chris Dodd) that the fair thing to do would be to not have the voters in Michigan count and just split the delegates in half. How is this fair to anyone? Maybe this is a good idea for Florida to where Clinton had a major lead over him! He is all for empowering the voters unless he thinks it would work against him!

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American Voter — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:26 GMT

The monster is not helping herself. Her pressing the issue is making her even more unattractive than usual.

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Black American, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:26 GMT

The Super delegates will soon have a caucas. I hope they go with public sentiment. Obama will lose a general election. Not only because the $250,000 he had to give to charity because given by Rezko, but silently approving of Rev. Wrights inappropriate statements but also his assocaition with Willaim Ayers. WHAT DOES THIS SPELL!

We need to come toegther behind one candidate to stop the bleeding George Bush is causing like a 1 trillion dollar war.

People - Read My Lips - No more republicans!

Write your the superdelegates in your state to support Senator Clinton!

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AC, Carpinteria — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:31:23 GMT

Anyone who thinks that Hillary would have been for Michigan and Florida revotes if the roles were reversed and she was in the lead and Obama had won the illegitimate contests, is living in a fantasy world.

Now that using Michigan and Florida is a way to somehow give the impression that her campaign has a prayer of catching up in delegates, she is suddenly Michigan and Florida's best friend. Why did she sign off on not having them count in the first place if she felt so strongly about it?

It also appears to be a good way to further rip the party asunder by now saying Obama would be an illegitimate nominee if he wins BY FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT WERE LAID OUT BEFORE THE CONTEST BEGAN. What a joke.

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jane-pa — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:31:45 GMT

joe,bozeman,MT are you saying obama 08 is the one we already have that is self serving and never admits a mistake? hey i am with you man.He sure is self serving or would let the 2 states seat there delagates. He sure is not party serving .With you man.Good to see he isnt fooling all the people but many see it now for sure.He is trying to get all the free tv time he can now too. I wonder if his money is drying up? Ferrakhan has a lot and his new endorsement (Black Panthers) have a lot. Opera even though she left that church and its leanings she will help.When she built that church for girls in Africa I wondered if she had belonged. The church says There alligence has to be with Africa. Lots of Al-Quida going there now.His numbers are really dumping.63% of people said Obama got favorable press.17% FOR hILLARY AND 16% FOR mCcANE. GO FIGURE

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Margaret, Columbus, Ohio — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:32:09 GMT

"The senator also restated her opposition to NAFTA...
....
She also restated her plans for reviewing the agreement. "

Uh, it's one or the other, right?

She's not opposed to it. She said she is focused on fixing elements in it that aren't working. There's a difference, and journalism should report accurately.

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Maddog, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:33:13 GMT

Hey Hillary,

Obama said he would follow whatever the DNC rules...not sure how this is being afraid of a re-vote.

Once again, you are playing politics....the problem is not Obama but the state democratic party who had some serious concerns about the legality of the re-vote proposal. Oh I forgot, you don't really care about that do ya?

Once again, Hillary ducks tough questions because she has no answer or solution..."For the second time this week, Clinton declined to talk about what steps she would take to halt the fall of the dollar, calling any intervention in terms of the value of the currency a "sensitive" topic."

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:34:20 GMT

Nicholas: Minnesota (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:01 PM):

Won't happen Nicholas. If Hillary in any way steals this nomination or weasels her way into it I can assure you that thousands and thousands of Obama supporters will not forget it in a couple of weeks and will certainly not vote for her. They may not vote for McCain but they will certainly stay home.

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Rochester, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:35:09 GMT

I think she mentioned something that the media has been trying to cover up. That would be that Obama ran advertising in Florida before the primary which was against the rules, but no one in the media seems to want to bring that up. He broke the rules in Florida and still got crushed. The Obama supporters got their panties in a bunch when she went to Florida to thank her supporters for voting for her, yet always seem to forget that Obama broke the rules by running ads in Florida. The hypocracy of the Obama supporters is undeniable.

Let's have a revote and may the best person win. Anything less than a revote or seating the delegates based on the previous votes is just helping Obama win and not letting two huge states get a chance to voice their opinion. What's Obama afraid of? He's afraid of a revote because Hillary will win both Michigan and Florida and PA, which would would give her the popular vote. That's what he's afraid of. If it was only delegates and he claims that Hillary can't win regardless if she had both states, then what would be the harm of a revote, unless he's afraid of her getting the popular vote. It's very simple. Why is okay to screw Hillary but not okay to have a revote?

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g.eglesias``nepa` — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:35:46 GMT

OBAMA-- YOU SAY YOU WANT TO UNITE AMERICA, YET YOU ARE WILLING TO DISENFRANCHISE MILLIONS OF VOTERS TO SUIT YOUR "OWN" SPECIFIC NEEDS!!!!!! HOW IS THIS UNITING AMERICANS???!!!!!!!!!!

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Lisa, Paradise, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:38:27 GMT

Besides - you're not voting for Hillary, but Billary. This is the Clintons getting Bill his 3rd term. Here's an ironic interview about that subject from CBS in 2003:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/06/60minutes/clintondole/main557364.shtml

June 8, 2003

(CBS) In the latest in a series of two-minute debates for CBS News 60 Minutes, former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole and former President Bill Clinton discuss presidential term limits. Following is a transcript of their debate:
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SENATOR DOLE: Mr. President, sometimes you don't get the credit you deserve. Just last week you showed a real sense of humor. You want to change the constitution to let somebody, anybody, serve more than two terms as president.

Now who did you have in mind? Former Presidents Ford, Carter or Bush? You know, what about me? I ran since 1980 and never got one term - or even an overnight stay in the Lincoln bedroom. Now, you want a third or fourth term. Why stop there?

If cloning keeps advancing, you could be president for more than one lifetime. The two-term tradition was set by George Washington. Only one exception: FDR in time of world crisis. Don't you think some day Al Gore would tire of being vice president?

PRESIDENT CLINTON: "Shouldn't the people have the right to vote for someone as many times as they want to vote for him?"

Those aren't my words, Senator. They're Ronald Reagan's, who said in 1986 that the term limit on presidents was "a mistake." Now, I wouldn't go as far as President Reagan. I think presidents should be limited to two consecutive terms, then after a time out of office should be able to run again.

Don't worry. I know I won't be running for president again. It takes too long to change the Constitution, and I don't believe in human cloning! But in the future, our country might face a crisis that a former president is uniquely qualified to help solve. The American public should have that option.

As for you, senator, you can run again. Or you could give the other Senator Dole a shot!

SENATOR DOLE: Wow. Getting a wife to run for president. Wonder where you got that idea, Mr. President. You’ve been reading too many books. Don't be coy. I hear what you're really saying: With the field of Democrats out there, if the law allowed, you'd be running against President Bush today. Isn't that right?

PRESIDENT CLINTON: No, that's wrong. I like and admire the Democrats in the race and one of them will emerge to challenge the president, and I predict another close election. I just hope this one gets decided by the people, not five members of the Supreme Court.

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Grace, Virginia — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:39:25 GMT

There's a big difference b/w saying the votes won't count for anything, and that the votes shouldn't count. If you actually look/listen to the much cited interview, HRC makes the point that the Dems shouldn't ignore the people of Michigan and leave them out of the process or leave room for the Republicans. And, so - yes - she left her name on the ballot, and - yes - the votes in Michigan shouldn't be discounted.

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Keith (Wayne, NJ) — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:39:51 GMT

Great strategy. So, she already knows that MI won't have a revote, yet she goes out of her way to say that the Democratic nominee will be illegitimate if MI doesnt revote... I'm sure the republicans wont have a field day with that soundbite come the general election. Way to go, Hillary! That's looking out for the best interest of the party and the country!

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rennie — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:39:54 GMT

I have come to believe she is sabotaging Obama. Since she sees she can't win, she is RUINING HIM so HE will lose to McCain...and SHE will be the Nominee in 2012. An aside...I heard Mark Penn, Clintons strategist, is employed by the SAME LOBBYING FIRM as McCAINS Campaign Advisor, Charlie Black! You know Charlie, he's the one who lobbies from McCains BUS! So, you see the Lobbyists want to WIN. THEY don't care if its DEM or REB! Sick, huh?

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No Joke — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:40:12 GMT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the "Fellowship," aka The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

Here is some more truth coming out about Hillary but MSBC won't post!

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Dwaine — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:41:33 GMT

It's fair for me to say now that the tactics used in the Clinton campaign used to spike her position in the recent Polls has not only hurt Senator Obama, but it has hurt me too.

I'm a white/black man thats been in the submarine fleet successfully obtaining my Dolphins in six months. After a honorable discharge out of the US Navy I've lived in shelters under bridges and then obtained two degrees, ASEET, and BSEE during the Reagan years. Now I'm unemployed.

The tactics used to propel Senator Clinton ahead in the Polls, I believe will strongly influence potential employers not to consider me. All I have to do is fill out the, so called, voluntary Race questions and I'll never hear from that employer.
Especially with online job applications.

Also I believe it is fair to speculate that this type of judgement killed Benazir Bhutto. Senator Clinton's vote for the Iraq War may have helped invalidate the justification for pursuit of the Taliban/Al Qaeda into the Hindu Cush (Pakistan)as they fled our counter assualt.

Let's not loose another great leader from Illinois. This time even before before the Presidency.

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Bill Johnson, Anaconda, Montana — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:41:54 GMT

It is time for both sides to quit the snipping and line up behind our nominee, Sen Obama.

The longer we delay, the better the chances for McCain.

Come on Hillary, support the party.

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Bruce Becker Lincoln, cA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:41:59 GMT

Clinton lost Texas. It is time for her to drop out. She lost the caucus 38-29 and she lost the overall delegate count there 99-95. She has been trying to suppress the results in Texas so she will not have to quit as BIll Clinton said she should if she lost Texas.

And she told New Hampshire that MICH didnt deserve anything, because New Hampshire is supposed to be first. Now, she is speaking to a different audience to MICh and speaking double speak.

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TheDonald — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:42:24 GMT

I don't know why this woman is hell bent on runing the Democratic party along with her own career!

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Lou Day-George, Grangeville, ID. — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:43:46 GMT

Well this citizen wants the sensitive issues to be talked about. The only reason they may be sensative, is possible, they may hurt a running candidate.
Mr Obame spoke to what america might call the Most sensative.
He also stayed away from rules that both of you signed on for.
This shows that mr. Obama does stand by his word, and tells us what we need to hear.
Hillary, please get off the lies and retoric and back to the issues!
OWL

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:44:37 GMT

Now there is a trust issue. Pam, South Carolina (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:03 PM):

Without being a nastry Obama supporter Pam as apparently you think Obama supporters are, you are correct that there is a trust issue. Open your eyes and see what Hillary is doing, especially now about the Michigan and Florida revote issue. How can you say Obama is not to be trusted when you have Hillary agreeing that these votes would not count, signed a pledge not to particpate in these primaries, and now turns around and calls Obama unAmerican because he would not support a revote unless it was fair and equitable. Hillary then says let's have the Michigan delegates seated no matter the outcome. When Obama agrees and says let's seat them and we will split the delegates because I was not on the ballot like you, Hillary says no. She says no because she left her name on the ballot even though pledging not to participate and then thinks she won the primary by gaining more votes then Mr. Uncommitted (whoever that was, Obama, Edwards, Biden, who?). My gosh Pam, there sure is a trust issue here, but that turst issue falls on Hillary, not Obama. Open your eyes!

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Mel — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:44:43 GMT

Ron, California

**************************

The article you posted was written by a Peter Wehner - who has worked for George W. Bush (speech writer), Bill Bennett, and Willian Kristol - (All Conservative Republicans...)

I'm certain, though, that the article and everything that was said is beyond reproach and completely accurate and without agenda in its logic or reasoning, because as a conservative Republican - he would have no reason to attempt to further damage Obama's chances, now would he? (I'm being sarcastic)

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Fred C Dobbs Sierra Madre, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:46:08 GMT

As long as YOU Tube and pastor Wright exist, there will be no Obama nominee!

Obama is not electable!

Finally, what a bunch of sick posts on the MSNBC web site today. What is it about MSNBC that attracts such sick minded individuals!

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Johnson, New Orleans, LA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:46:40 GMT

Didn't Hillary realize that the delegates won't be seated BEFORE the election started? i mean seriously that was the rule of the DNC. If she had such a problem with it then why didn't she do it then? She waited to NOW to say that MI and FL are Sooooooo important and they must be counted?? Where was that comment before the election? She doesn't care about either one of the states. All she cares about are the delegates and like saps people think that Obama is the one to blame. At least OBAMA is trying to pay by the rules that have been established by the DNC BEFORE the election started LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

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j fl — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:46:56 GMT

hmmm, sounds like all you Obama folks are talking to yourselves today. Now, who is desperate? Me thinks you cult members are. You shouldn't have to protect L Ron Obama now. Hes a big boy and should be able to take care of himself. Oh yea, he can't. He seems to be in a vat of scalding water right now.

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bruce Becker lincoln, ca — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:46:57 GMT

MSNBC, why are you giving her air time with such double speak?
You know that she went to New Hampshire and went on and on that NH should be first and that MICH didnt deserve a thing.

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Mox — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:47:11 GMT

35% of people say now they have doubts about Obama because of his pastor and him saying whites to blame for harsh feelings against country.I am one. His putting in every stumbling block he can to stop these 2 states from seating delagates is over the top. If they dont get seated now we will lose in Nov. Looks like obama doesnt care if it cannt be him will be none.There is a lot to think about with this person.I feel very anxious with the changes he wants. Last night a fox reporter was asking Jessie Jackson questions and when he left a black reporter went after him(fox reporter). It was so bad Jackson had to come out and break it up and in a while moved off the black reporter .Obama stiring the pot as they have said on tv. Sad. Seat the 2 states

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Brave — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:47:33 GMT

Shame on you - Obama. You said you are uniting people. You divide people for your own interest.

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Lisa in WORKING CLASS DIVERSE New Britain, CT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:48:24 GMT

Unfortunately, as I have been saying all along...this mistake was made way back when. Any change now, any change at all, at least any change short of a full blown primary redo, is going to cause legitimacy problems.

You all should have thought of this way earlier...no amount of complaing about it now is going to change that fact.

This is why you can't change rules in the middle.

I feel for the people in those states but any change now threatens legitimacy of the election.

And not to mention, but the desparation is wearing pretty thin.

This die was cast when the decisions were originally being made. Hillary should be blaming Harold Ickes if she's intent on blaming anyone.

Obama 08 (knows how to play by the rules)

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Jason, Baltimore, MD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:49:44 GMT

Senator Clinton, it is you have have no legitimacy, and the masses know it. Why weren't you pressing for change when they orginally decided, and you agreed, that moving the primary violated the rules and therefore wouldn't count?

Oh I know, because you ARE LOSING now, so you need those votes.

No wi understand, i thought for a mintue you cared about the voters..but....then you went ahead and said you would try to manipulate the nomination by using super delegates to override the popular vote, which you are losing.

Ok, I get it....we all get it....you want to win by any means necessary....how sad

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Brave — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:50:53 GMT

Shame on you - Obama. You said you are uniting people. You divide people for your own interest.

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TKD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:51:24 GMT

Once again, HRC is full of it. If she had trailed in the bogus primaries in Florida and Michigan, she would no more be pushing for them to count than she would be flying to the moon. And her lies about NAFTA are finally plain for all to see: she spoke at a pro-NAFTA rally, and now claims to have opposed it. Seriously, just how many whopping lies does Hillary Clinton get to tell, before somebody says "enough!"

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Ted Mitchell, Jackson MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:52:04 GMT

Pam, South Carolina;

What gives you the right to assume ALL of Obama's supporters are "Blacks" or white college kids?

This is blatantly racist, or, at best, prejudiced.

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Calif Love — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:52:11 GMT

Hillary, you are absoulutely correct. It's amazing that SO MANY comments ignore the disenfranchisement of millions. I've been a very staunch supporter of the democratic party but this is ridiculous. If the delegates are not seated, the democratic party can count me out. I will NOT BE supporting the democratic party or its ILLEGITIMATE nominee in the general election.

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PMC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:53:29 GMT

There are 2.5 million voters in Michigan and Florida. And without their voices it is Obama, not Clinton, that would be stealing the vote! In Texas, he may win more delegates, yet she won by 100,000's of votes! So Obama is the one trying to "steal" the election! It is unbelievable, at a time when he is going down in the polls and should be dropping out of the race to save the Democrats, we are still reading and hearing the same ridiculous notions from the Obama camp. GET REAL! HE HAS NO CHANCE IN NOVEMBER! That means...ZERO! NADA! NONE! It is over for Obama. Please accept it so we can move on to a winning nominee.

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quinka — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:54:49 GMT

The only thing Hillary has 35 years experience in is lying and cheating! Get a life Hillary supporters!

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Jane Doe, Miami, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:55:25 GMT

Clinton supporters: vote for McSame, vote independent, withold your vote, do whatever you wish. Obama will still win the general election in November, no matter what games the Clinton/McSame try to play with him. If you're willing to back Clinton, the Democratic party doesn't need you anyhow.

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Mitch Wright, Denver — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:55:31 GMT

"Disenfranchised" gets thrown around a lot, but we're talking about a party primary here, not a general election. Secondly, what about the voters who stayed away because they were told the results would be MEANINGLESS? Thirdly, who is this gang of wealthy Clinton supporters lining up to pay $10 million for a revote? Fourthly, would a revote make any meaningful difference?

And finally, if Clinton were not desperately behind, would she give a rat's ass about this? She sure didn't seem to care last year when she was the "inevitable" nominee. Now she wants a do-over and she's hiding behind lofty-sounding (but self-serving) bull.

Ugh. It's over. Move on.

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Roy Freeman — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:55:44 GMT

The reality of the situation is that the people in Florida and Michigan deserve to be counted just like all of the rest of the nation. If they are not then we are not trully democratic. The nomination should be gained without the blemish of not counting all reguardless of who the nomination goes to.

Fair is Fair and at this point we are cheating the people who voted in Florida and Michigan.

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docrock,tx — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:55:59 GMT

Reality Check: I was not present to hear "reverend"jerry preach hate. One week later: I was present,but it was his stage. Liar Liar Liar. So,racism is okay,as long as you are Black? Anyone who votes for him is a racist,with ZERO self respect.

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obie, burtrum, mn — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:56:30 GMT

Legitimacy?

How dare she speak about the legitimacy of the Dem candidate when she wants the supers to overturn the will of the voters???

I also find it interesting that the McCain campaign today fired a staffer who promoted the infamous pastor videos while a Clinton surrogate continues to fan the flames.

Legitimacy??

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Lisa in WORKING CLASS DIVERSE New Britain, CT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:56:36 GMT

Really, what is starting to bother me most, is that it is seeming like Ms. Clinton thinks she is bigger than the Democratic party that she "serves". Well, strike that because that is exactly not what she is doing...serving the party.

She is not bigger than the Democratic party, if she were it would be the Clintonian party. Increasingly this is how she is seeming to me.

I guess since I'm not a Clintonian, I may have to think about staying in what used to be called the Democratic party.

Everyone bashing Obama should look at Hillary's tactics and think long and hard how this woman is likely to play out at the White House. Very scary. Sorry, I usually try to be more reasonable in my postings but I just can't believe this. This would seem to be way over the line.

Obama 08

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independent — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:57:12 GMT

It’s 3am in the morning. Hillary can’t take your call right now because she is still up waiting for Bill to come home. Experience you can count on.

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Rick,Ky — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:57:25 GMT

The establishment have found their go to guy, (Jeremiah Wright)to try & derail Barack's nomination.This pattern developed early in the campaign,Muslim email, Madrassa's attended, Jesse Jackson,Picture in Native dress & Now, Mr Wright.Until this past week, America had fought for Barack & against the Establishment trying to Ruin a Great politician Again.I have No fact's that this is why Hillary was able to maintain a campaign after 11 losses in a row(so late in the season)other than Common Sense.
My support for Barack has Not & will Not be diminshed by this line of attack.Since Day 1, i have been an avid supporter & will Proudly cast my vote for Barack in May.I'm smart enough Not to allow this Public Lynching that is happening. I'm Smart enough Not to allow the establishment to Put the word's of 1 man inside the body of a Completely different man.I'm Smart enough to see that Barack has taken every hit from every angle coming from Hillary, Mccain,GWB, The MSM, The Religous Right Terrorist Bible Thumper's & whoever else has tryed to attack the man's Integrity, Judgement & Character & continues to Beat them All.Not a single one of us could withstand this kinda pressure, yet he has.His supporter's will Not allow this Public Lynching to happen as evidenced by his commanding lead in every category that matter's for the Democratic Nomination.

" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER"

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LMK C. WA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:59:00 GMT

Is this another "I do not recall" moment for Hillary?

First NO to revotes in Florida and Michigan, they broke the rules. Now YES to revotes in Florida and Michigan, because I'm loosing.

Peter Paul,
Part 1 of 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIf84llCRPc
Part 2 of 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGrDWQoUpsg&feature=related

Where are the CLINTON'S TAX RETURNS
and ALL THE PAPERS OF WHO GAVE MONEY TO CLINTONS LIBARY??

OBAMA '08

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Matt for Obama, Idaho — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:59:03 GMT

Anyone also notice?

Hillary fought tooth and nail for Florida, ignoring Michigan as 2nd class... until they said no revote, then she finds MI important. after today, will MI be important to her anymore?

I don't think so!

Its all her kind of politics.

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BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:59:26 GMT

Foreign Policy Experience?
But the calendars also seem to show that, on occasion, Mrs. Clinton was not substantively involved with foreign affairs when a real 3 a.m. crisis hit the White House.

Take, for example, when Al Qaeda terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, killing hundreds of people. Mrs. Clinton’s schedule does not show any foreign policy meetings in the aftermath of the crisis, only a trip to Andrews Air Force Base to console victims and their families as they returned from Africa to the United States. And when, in retaliation for those embassy attacks, President Clinton bombed Al Qaeda terrorist camps in Afghanistan, where was Mrs. Clinton? The records show that she was vacationing at a “private residence” in Martha’s Vineyard, Ma., and had no official events.

Foreign trips offer a mixed review of Mrs. Clinton’s national-security experience. On a trip to Japan and Korea in 1993, for example, her schedule was filled with teas, tours of gardens and other traditional first lady fare. And on a trip to Russia in 1994, Mrs. Clinton met with other first ladies and attended coffees and tours, separate from her husband or the Russian president. Clinton campaign spokesman Carson described the calendars as only a “guide,” and said that they “of course cannot reflect all of Senator Clinton's activities as First Lady.”

Indeed, on overseas trips in 1996, Mrs. Clinton held "private" or "closed" meetings with foreign heads of state in Greece, Turkey, and Bosnia--without the president's attendance. And on dozens of times throughout her White House years, she attended White House meetings with Cabinet secretaries, was briefed by senior National Security Council officials and met with foreign dignitaries from around the world.

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Dwaine, CO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:00:42 GMT

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dyslexics for Omaba — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:01 GMT

Omaba Rox.

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Linda, Daly — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:08 GMT

Hi Peter Wehner, nicely said.

Now consider that we do not know if Obama spoke with Wright about these issues. And in fact Wright is after 20 years no longer the pastor of this church.

Catholics remain at churches where Priest have done aweful things and they work to remove the offender.

Wright while saying these outrages things also it seems did many quality things; pastors from all walks have spoken that they have known Wright and attended his services themselves and had not heard these outburst.

Hearing the 30 second vids over and over has an impact, but lets judge Wright by his overall service to the church.

I have know many church folks that have taken many years to push out an offensive leader it takes time and it takes in some cases the authorization of the overalll church - in the case the Trinity United had 6000 flock, are to to think that they all felt this way?
I think that Obama thought he could bring some balance to the mix in telling a black community to work to bring about a change, rather than leave the church; of course this is my own view as to why he stayed.

Also consider that some Black churches did not want Obama because of his white heritage one of these silly leaders is a Clinton supporter (funny huh).

Please consider these quotes:

"When you're Euro-American, the people [at Trinity UCC] are so exceedingly gracious, warm and welcoming. They hug you and say, 'Welcome to our church!'"

Whiten, a member of Pilgrim UCC in Oak Park, Ill., is especially taken with Trinity UCC's commitment to the need and importance of quality theological education. More than 60 members of Trinity UCC are currently enrolled in seminary and pursuing masters-level degrees. Moreover, the congregation pays for students' tuition costs.

Thing is the church does not have 24x7 news media presenting a perspective message

http://www.ucc.org/news/chicagos-trinity-ucc-is.html

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K. Hutton, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:02:02 GMT

As a citizen and voter in Florida, I feel that it is unfair that MY vote will note be counted. I did not ask for a change of date for our primary--but I did vote. Isn't it our DUTY to vote? I'm not angry at Hillary...not angry at Obama...not even the State of Florida Legislators (who decided on the change), but I am angry that the National Democratic Party choses to punish the citizens who voted in Florida's primary. Bet the DNC expects me to vote for its candidate in November, huh?

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E M Parker, Balto, MD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:02:53 GMT

"I would be in favor of fixing this problem no matter what my position," she (HC)said. I BET she IS in favor of fixing this thing--which the DNC, stuffed with clintonites, pushed through.

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E M Parker, Balto, MD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:03:03 GMT

"I would be in favor of fixing this problem no matter what my position," she (HC)said. I BET she IS in favor of fixing this thing--which the DNC, stuffed with clintonites, pushed through.

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hillary 08 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:03:19 GMT

people so foolish Yes Hillary was leaving name on because every vote counted to her no matter if it counted or not. She went to thank each state too but guess you wouldnt understand that. Its called class and careing weather it counted or not.

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Hussein — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:03:47 GMT

Pam, South Carolina: I was a Hillary supporter but at the last minute changed to Obama. I regret that decision because I listened to Clinton speak this past year and she was right on the issues concerning this country back then.

Do us all a favor in the future, don't vote! If you are so inept as to vote for someone you don't particularly think could do the job, you shouldn't be in on the decision making for this country.

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e Parker, Balt, Md. — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:04:58 GMT

HC:
Liar, liar
Pants on fire
Your nose is longer than a telephone wire..............

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Peter — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:05:49 GMT

Quite frankly, I could care less how Floridians feel about their vote not counting.... because McCain will win FL anyway!!!

If the average Floridian is Soooooo upset about their voice not being heard, then they should not have WAITED UNTIL AFTER the primary to make a stink about it. I swear, that state is utterly pathetic when it comes to handling a simple election.

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Mike in Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:07:39 GMT

It is amazing how opposed to democracy Obama-wing democrats are. Fl. and Mi. democratic voters are entirely innocent in this debacle. The so-called "party elders and leaders" of the DNC are the ones who created this. Yet, these minions of the "uniter" want to deny them ever being heard. The democratic voters of Fl. and Mi. have every right to rebell. Again, They Are Innocent!

Per instructions in their circulating e-mails, the Obama followers "clog the blogs", "we need at least 5 comments for every Hillary comment". Their " from on-high" orders tell them to roam the blogs each time a new headline hits. Esp. Firstread, Tapper's Punch, the Ticker, NYT blogs and any pro-Hillary blogs. "Avoid sites posting IPs and report any d-o--s attacks immediately!"

If the headline favors Hillary they are told to blast Hillary, and "question the intent and intelligence of the writer". If the headline is against Hillary they are told to "pile on", but, "be sure to praise the source". Same scenario regarding McCain, but also "crack" on how old he is.

If headline favors Obama they are to pounce on any Hillary nay sayers, praise the headline and the writer. If it is unfavorable to Obama they are to denigrate the writer of the article, "clog the blog" with sheer numbers, and try to squelch any Hillary supporters.

The "instructional e-mail" forwarded to me from Baylor also said to "use multiple names, register where required, and periodically say you are from Europe or Canada or say you are a "white woman", a republican, or an independent of any age while praising Obama. Plus, it told how to mass alert others when "breaking events" occur.

Just like the caucuses: lie, bully, harass, harangue, whatever it takes to quiet any opposition. Make sure Obama wins at any cost, while calling Clinton underhanded. What a ridiculous, insipid lot these puppets are!

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Feisty Redhead IL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:07:50 GMT

Voters with an IQ higher than a potato know this is just more of the same spin we've grown so accustomed to...

New Bumper Sticker for the Clinton campaign should be:

Potato Heads for Clinton 08!

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Dottie, Swarthmore, PA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:08:25 GMT

To BL,Cincinnati OH
I have been asking the same question. For some reason MSNBC refuses to cover the scandal involving the Clintons but they sure keep mentioning Retzo in connection with Senator Obama. Double standard if you ask me.

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Marty Rlaeigh, NC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:08:27 GMT

I guess if Obama is elected he will bring the country together minus Florida and Mich. Wow I really thought this guy was about more. For me now its down to Hillary or McCain. I cannot vote for Obama after his true character has been shown.

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Jill, Tampa, Florida — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:08:46 GMT

Gee Senator Clinton, if only you had been this interested in fighting voter disenfranchisement in Florida in 2000. As first lady, you may have made a real difference. Unfortunately for us, your (and Bill's) name was not on the ballot, so we weren't important enough for your 'concern'.

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HERNAN ANECOCHEA SANTIAGO CHILE — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:09:29 GMT

DEAR Senator Hillary our country is run by a competent woman we can trust. Here in Chile and in the rest of Latin America at least you are one big joke. For a former blogger here to state that you could restore the worlds faith in America is LOL funny to us. We are happy with the female leader we elected into office but we also know we can trust her and that she does not rig elections or move goal posts everyday while destroying the party around her even when she is mathematically eliminated. My family is coming up to vacation cheaply to your oh so cheapo dollar. If your country wants any respect form down here and around your neighborhood better put in Barack Obama. We don't like your going to war for no reasons you voted for and find your attitude toward the rest of the planet filled with hubris and a lack of integrity. No American uglier to us than Hillary and her kind of lying two faced self. Hasta Luego my two centavos is done. Back to the Salmon farm.

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NAM — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:11:07 GMT

Oh, please....You cannot expect her to think about the economy....she has to think about her sinking compaign.

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Becky, Austin, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:11:09 GMT

I was a fan of both Bill and Hillary Clinton prior to
her desparate actions during this primary season. She
WILL do anything to win and even if she has to divide
the Democratic Party, she will do that. If Barack
Obama is ahead with primary and caucus delegates and
she wins the nomination based on super-delegates,
I will no longer vote as a Democrat and will change
to an Independent. I predict a majority of Barack
Obama supporters will do the same. We should then
all run Barack Obama as the Independent candidate.
I believe he can win...YES WE CAN!!!

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Steve — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:11:45 GMT

I have been at Obama’s rallies and was impressed by his great speeches and how he affected his audience by his speeches. What I do not understand is why Obama not denouncing his pastor/spiritual leader/mentor is not disturbing more Americans of all races. What would Americans do if a teacher in our schools made these same comments? EVERYONE would want that teacher to resign. Why should Obama’s pastor be treated differently than a teacher? Obama not only as a State Senator and US Senator continually witnessed these disturbing sermons to men, women, and CHILDREN of this church; he also contributed over a hundred thousand dollars to this church. Would he let a teacher in our schools that made remarks as this to continue these actions of hatred remarks to the children of America and do nothing as he allowed his pastor. Obama wants to be the president of the United States and AMERICANS actually think this action of doing nothing when remarks as this are made is acceptable. I understand that Obama can give a great uplifting speech but is actions are disturbing. I would think the people of Illinois should ask for Obama’s resignation from being their US Senator. There is absolutely no way that I could now vote for Obama. Think of the children in this church that listened to these sermons and the affect these words had on them and Obama and Michelle sat their and did nothing! We need a leader that will stand up and protect the children and people of this country. Not one that supports these actions by being in attendance and contributing money to this pastor! Who is the real Obama? More importantly why do so many Americans believe that Obama’s lack of actions in making a positive difference for the children of his church is acceptable? America needs more than glorified speeches. Speeches are only words. Actions are reality! The people of Illinois should rally together and ask for the resignation of their US Senator Barack Obama. If not, the Americans will view Illinois as a state that believes these actions are acceptable.

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KYJurisDoctor — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:12:03 GMT

"BILLARY" is such a FAKE it's UNBELIEVABLE!

Thanks "reality check" for exposing her. I will be posting the audio shortly.

http://OsiSpeaks.com

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KYObserver — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:14:22 GMT

Why is the news media not digging up what Hillary said last fall about the early primaries in MI and FL????? She said that those primaries "would not count". So now that she's losing (= desperate) she's scraping the bottom. Get over it Hill. You should just bow out now and support Obama who is the only one who has half a chance against McCain anyway! McCain took his VP (Liebermann) with him to the middle east and Britain on taxpayers money; they are already campaigning in front of the rest of the world while we are stuck here in distraction with MI and FL. The DNC and superdelegates should just back Obama and get it over with.

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John Salem, OR — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:15:05 GMT

Excuse me, but aren't you forgetting that all these votes Obama won were before people knew what he was all about with his pastor? Does any fool out there think he has a chance in hell in November after admitting he sat and listened to this pastor for 20 years without saying a word? Get a clue, folks. He's toast.

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MBM, Chicago, IL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:15:13 GMT

That latest Gallup pole was interesting and right on. The majority of people (all people, not just select ones) do not think Hillary:
- Is Honest or Trustworthy
- Would work well with others in solving problems
- Would not be proud of her as President.

Her words and actions pretty much bear that out. Tell me again why anyone would want her to be the Democratic nominee. Heck you certainly wouldn't want someone like this as a co-worker would you?

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Sunny Florida, fort Myers, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:16:16 GMT

Ok, this Wright stuff is disturbing, very. But the bigger problem I have for Mr. Obama is his pattern of saying one thing and then distancing himself from those words when the opposite is revealed at a later date. That is called "spin", people. We have a need and right to know Senator Obama from every angle and what he believes when he talks of equality and a "vision" for America. To say that Clinton +/or Obama is at fault for the direction the Democratic campaign has headed, is ludicrous and short-sighted. America is a melting pot of races, genders, culture, etc. and we each have a personal interest in seeing "ourselves" in our President. With that connection comes passion and emotional investment. However, it also must be tempered with information about the candidates (good and bad, without negative "label" attached to said information) so that we can make informed choices, rather than only emotionally-driven ones. To Americans: try to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin, mud and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and,arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and what-if's - it is about who you believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for every hardworking American, because they have a track record of that already. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be, not just because she's running for President. Vetted, intelligent, tested and hardworking. Senator Clinton is the right choice for me in '08

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William, Birmingham, Alabama — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:16:27 GMT

There will not be revotes in MI and FL because Obama refused to agree to it. The DNC had approved Michigan's revote legislation and Hillary gave her approval.....the legislature waited to hear from Obama..and heard nothing. So it didn't pass. He is waiting out the clock.

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OneofManyNoneCollegeAgeWhitesForObama,NC — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:16:37 GMT

Hillary

Mr. Obama is not in he's busy addressing your various lies. Please see Mr. Howard Dean on this matter.

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Ethel, Nashville TN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:17:27 GMT

PLease people the last time I checked a person in America still has the righ to freedom of speech. If a person wants to state an opinon in a pulpit, on a street corener or a bar stool it is their right to say what they want to say. I am sure we have all disagreed with something someone said at one time or another but does a few ill chosen words totally wash away all the good a person does or will do, no I do not think so and just because someone is a member of an audience, congrecation, or just passing by does not mean they agree with everything a person says but it does not mean they don't like other things or that the person who said the un politically correct remarks is totally bad or evil, get a grip people.
This is just the repulicans way of trying to bring a good man down and Hillary and Bill jumped on the band wagon. Are we really as stupid as they think we are, I guess so because everybody has jumped on the same wagon. I am disappointed in all of you especially the media and Hilary she is so bogus

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Dave Exeter NH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:17:45 GMT

Hope you'll let me post this ...you didn't last time...not sure why.

There is a gentleman who questions why Obama didn't speak up at that church... below I tell a story and I ask "What would you do if it were your church?"

Perhaps it will shed some light on how we (white people) are not getting it... why we just see a man saying awful things.

I want this discussion to talk about health care, the war, the economy and the fact that my house lives on a river and has now, twice in a row, for the first time in it's 50 year history flooded in the spring.

But I have to deal with an issue you all and Fox News seem to be pushing understandably in the initial discovery.

Reverend Wright...and I think I have a parable of sorts that might help with some of these sermons. Take this with a grain of salt...I am just a white, blue-collar guy originally from Saugus MA but now I live in NH. Yes, I am educated but my roots and my belief system are blue collar to the core.

Imagine a white pastor of a similar age as Rev. Wright ... Reverend White. He has been preaching for years since he decided to enter the faith after returning home from Vietnam. His father was a Reverend in Maine somewhere and being a man raised in the spirit of his church chose to try to help and understand the struggles that faced not only his compatriots returning from the war but for his country. There are probably several pastors, reverends, priests who could have similar backgrounds across this country.

When he returned his fellow soldiers were not taken care of. The country let them down. He passes vets in their flack jackets living under bridges or struggling working blue-collar jobs because they went away and could not get into college hen they got back. Imagine this gentleman watching many people about his age (they may be vets they may be someone else it is hard to tell) ...imagine he sees these people who look like his age ...the age of consent to go to war during Vietnam...struggling with drugs and crime. Imagine that... I do not think that is hard.

Now imagine a sermon that he is giving...years after fighting to make things right for his fellow vets...where he says something like..

"...and we pass them on the street and they are hungry. "
(and he pauses and we see the pain in him)
"We pass them on the street and they are crazy."
(and his volume goes up)
"We say 'God helps them who help themselves'"
(he starts to yell)
"WE say they have to pull it together... and We turn away because we have our own problems.

"AMERICA goes to our jobs and our ballgames and our birthday parties and our classrooms and they ask us to pledge allegiance or to sing God Bless America...as our fellow men starve and are institutionalized... are disregarded or worse THEY are shunned!"

"We are our brother's keeper!...they say God Bless America!" "I say no God would not Bless America for this...I say God would damn America for this!" "We need to change!"
(half of the congregation is on their feet but half are uncomfortable)

"We send these soldiers out to fight and we destroy them when they come home!"

"What God teaches us does not stand with how we treat these Americans." "That's right God Damn America...get on the ball!"

I ask you all, "if you were in that church, what would you do?"

This issue is one that needs to be talked about. Because I do not think Americans understand the parallels between this story and what Rev. Wright was doing...and no matter how thrown and revolted you were by his tone...this is almost the same story.

The reference to it being like a KKK meeting is not understanding the black community at best... and politically slimy at worst.

...but to keep harping on Sen Obama for explanations and distancing himself are not helpful unless you understand what these sermons are... and if you don't ...if the Sean Hannitys and the other pundits pushing this idea that these sentiments were so un-American don't understand that the above story has something to do with this moment in American history... then they are the one's that are going to mislead America.

That is this man's point...this man who everyone discounts because "he is a great speaker.". He is more than that I am positive...not the messiah, not the savior of our country but I think he is the leader we need NOW. He may be a politician, but I have met him and the other candidates when they were here in NH. He is sincerely a good man first...a politician second.

I ask you again ...would you leave the church in the scenario presented?

Now can we talk about the economy and the war and the reputation we need overseas with different countries peoples to be able to get things done.

Sincerely

A fan.

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Rhoda Penmark — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:17:46 GMT

What's her name is really starting to lose it, her mind and the election. She's so maniacal, and is more than ready to steal and cheat her way to the White House. She’s trying to make it seem like she’s concerned about the rights of the voters in Michigan and Florida…she’s only concerned about herself.

If SHE happened to win the nomination (ain't gonna happen anyway) THAT would call into question the legitimacy of the nominee...she's just a sore loser.

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playbytherules, tx — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:18:06 GMT

If Hillary is so concerned about counting the votes in Florida and Michigan, why did she agree at the beginning of the campaign to abide by the ruling of the DNC to not seat the Florida and Michigan delegates. Why wasn't she fighting for their right to be counted then? Answer: Because she thought she would win the nomination without them. Now that she knows she can't, all of a sudden she is sooo concerned about their right to vote. BTW No one has an inalienable right to vote in a party's primary without fitting into the rules set by the party.

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Dirk, Brunswick, Georgia — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:18:23 GMT

I'm a blue collar, life-long lunch-bucket Democrat with six kids under my roof.

Who would I rather have a beer with, Obama or McCain?? Answer: McCain.....Who would I rather "see in my living room over the next four years", Obama or McCain?? Answer: McCain

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TN Regina, Saskatchewan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:18:35 GMT

The nightmare scenario for the Dems could play out.
Obama continues to lose popular support but Hillary can't catch him in delegates. They go to the convention with Obama 80 or 100 more delegates than Hillary but by then Obama's popular support is in the 30% range nationally.

The superdelegates decide to go with Hillary even though Obama has more (non-super) delegates. Total chaos follows. Maybe Hagel is right, a 3rd party is necessary.

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Media Browski, Osaka, Indiana — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:18:58 GMT

Shorter Hillary:
"I'm the one who violated the agreement I signed to not PARTICIPATE in FL & MI primaries, so now everyone must bow to my will and give me the votes I so disingenoously cheated to win."

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justobserveID — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:20:24 GMT

She'll keep pushing, she'll argue she fully deserves the vice president's spot, then Obama will loose his life to a "racist", hello madam president.....

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Kimberly, Maine — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:20:26 GMT

I have to say as a 40 something working class blue collar single mother, that I firmly believe with this desperate ploy by Hilary to capture this nomination by any means has shown her to be the candidate who's morality and character proves she should NEVER NEVER be the person to run this country

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Bill, Cool Springs — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:20:32 GMT

Hillary will be president. He can not be elected because of his lack of judgement. Buy the way...She is the best choice!

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Roseanne Rosannadanna — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:21:08 GMT

patty,sd,ca --

Don't listen to these people -- I love your posts ...

Like I ALWAYS say, if it's not one thing, it's another.

You're my hero(ine).

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Angelica — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:22:56 GMT

"It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything" - Hillary Rodham Clinton

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Luanne — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:23:23 GMT

These people pay taxes, they are Americans, their vote should be counted. Forget redo's they have already voted and smart enough not to vote for him. If they had wanted to, guess what , write ins. They voted Hillary...count them.

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Ellie B — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:23:39 GMT

AH Senator Clinton, please raise your right hand....

Do you swear to tell the WHOLE truth, nothing but the truth so help you GOD?

Senator Clinton: Yes, of course. I have nothing to hide from the American people (wink-wink).

Attorney: Sen. Clinton is this your signature on the signed DNC Pledge Agreement?

Sen. Clinton: Ahhhh..wellll.. I think that look's like Bill's or Chelsea's handwriting.

Attorney: Is this NOT you on tape stating clearly that the votes in Michigan does not stand for anything and will NOT count? (taped is played back)

Sen. Clinton: Well.....Ahhhh... Do I sound like that on tape? I don't recall. That was then, I'm all for the people (wink-wink)

Attorney: Sen. Clinton, 1993, did your White House Aides find your Whitewater billing records in YOUR private living quarters clearly showing fraudulent billing practices as stated in YOUR own released papers?

AND did YOU state to the Federal Grand Jury that YOU didn't KNOW where these private billing papers where when asked by Federal Investigators to provide these documents months in advance?

Sen. Clinton: Ah... I didn't know where my own private papers were? I'm surprise they were found by my AIDES in my private living quarters. (wink-wink)

HA! HA! HA! Does anything MORE need to be said about this serial LIAR AND CLEARLY manipulative WOMAN!!!

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Inspire Trust — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:24:16 GMT

Dear Clinton Voters (especially the ones in Ohio)

Due to you being DUPED by Hillary and her statements on NAFTA (the policy that took your jobs) please listin with rapt interest to following:

WARNING: THIS MAY BE YOU LAST CHANCE TO CURE THE DREADFUL DISEASE CALLED "CLINTONITIS-LARENGITIS"

I believe you must have been brainwalshed by the Clintonistas' Brainwalshing Machine which has inadvertently infected you with ""CLINTONITIS-LARENGITIS."

Futhermore: We can tell the tell-tale symptoms of said "brain addleation" from your common sense migration to "CLINTONITIS-LARENGITIS," for every time you open your mouths inaccuracys, inattention to detail, and right out un-truths distort, disrupt, and miscommunicate all clear and consise language communication.

Your Cure is simple and free for the present time only:

You must repeat the following statement at least one hundred time to be totally cured of
"CLINTONITIS-LARENGITIS."

"Obama is the one, the only one, who has been honest about his feeling and opinions concerning Rev. Wright: This inspires Trust.

Obama is the one: who gave an historic speech that challenged us to see beyond the color of ones skin: This inspires trust!

Obama is the one: who has spent his life serving others rather than trying to get rich: This inspires trust

The rich and powerful are few: but they will try to destoy Obama because of his stance on special interest:This inspires trust!

Obama is loyal to his loved ones/family: This inspires trust."

Did you say it one hundred times?

Then you now must realize the followning statement below.

It seems blantantly obvious to anyone with an education higer than third grade the Clinton has failed to INSPIRE TRUST!

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JNZ in Michigan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:24:38 GMT

the thing is- Obama is not the overwhelming choice of the peopel because a uge number of us have not been counted. Of course Obama would love to split the delegates of Michigan 50/50 because he could not legitimately win that many in an actual primary. That was already proven in th efirst primary. So the Obama decision is very self-serving, just like any other politician.

Incidently, the Michigan legistlature never got to vote on the re-do election. They could only approach the subject, IF OBAMA AGREED to it. He did not, leaving the voters of Michigan hung out to dry. No one ever asked us if we wanted to move the primary, no one asked us how our delegates should be proportioned. The voters did not break the rules but they are paying for the misjudgements of others.

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Rules are Rules — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:25:07 GMT

Flip-Flop-Flip-Flop-Flip.....

waiting for the next Flop. C'mon Hillary, I know you can do it.

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SANDY BELTON MO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:25:11 GMT

WELL, WE KNOW YOU DID NOT GO THERE TO:
THANK THE VETS.
COMMANDER -IN - WHAT?

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MJB — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:25:55 GMT

A vote for clinton instead of Obama in the remaining states/territories will mean in the November election, Mc Cain will be elected president as very few Democrats still have respect for clinton.
Do we want four more years with a Republican in office????

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Chris, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:26:24 GMT

Okay, now this is crap. In reading the Reuters story, "Clinton takes lead over Obama in national poll", which is currently on the MSN home page, I come across this graf:

"Despite the closeness of the Democratic race, Clinton trails Obama in delegates. Clinton's campaign has been pushing for primary revotes in Florida and Michigan. Clinton won both states but the Democratic National Party took away their delegates to punish them for not following the party's primary schedule."

This isn't remotely clear writing. By saying "Clinton won both states BUT the DNC took their delegates away", they make it look like one happened before the other, and somehow the DNC unfairly punished Clinton. That is B.S. of the highest order. No mention of the pledge? No mention that Ickes and other Clinton surrogates engineered this entire snafu, and she just "happened" to be the only major candidate who left her name on the ballot?

God, this is sickening all over the place.

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Dr.Strangedog, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:26:35 GMT

wOW, she sounds like an addict...."I needs delegates! C'mon mannn, help a sister out. Ok,ok just give me MI! You know you can, man! It's for Democracy mannnnnn!

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JP, Detroit, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:26:55 GMT

Obama is SO self-serving here (not the Hillary's not, but Obama's no better on this issue). His great idea for seating Michigan? Split the votes 50-50? in other words, let's pretend to count Michigan, when in reality a 50/50 split means Michigan counts for nothing at all. What makes him think he deserves half our delegates?! If he thinks he's worthy of half our delegates in Michigan, then put your money where your mouth is and have your campaign and Hillary's pony up 1/2 the cash each to make the revote happen and PROVE IT.

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Ellie B — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:28:34 GMT

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Blaine — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:28:46 GMT

Hillary, please let it go and accept the fact that you were beaten by an upstart in the delagate, state and popular vote. It's Over!!!!!!!

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:28:52 GMT

yawn.......................

For 2 straight days Obama talks substance and Hillary talks gamesmanship.

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SANDY BELTON MO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:28:57 GMT

WELL, WE KNOW YOU DID NOT GO THERE TO:
THANK THE VETS.
COMMANDER -IN - WHAT?

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Dave Exeter NH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:00 GMT

I think the damage was done... the turn about with Sen. Clinton from being "okay" with agreeing that the states wouldn't count to suddenly "caring" about it... is what made this a hard situation.

Sen Clinton turned it around to make the voters think this was for them and Obama was against them... when in reality she is screwing with the psyche of the electorate ...if she cared this much...and was so concerned at this being such an injustice...why did she not make a stink when it counted.

That's what we need in the White House ...someone who makes a stink when it counts...not someone who makes a stink when they are losing votes or going down in the polls.

To have another vote got sticky because she did not play it neutral and fair. This could have gotten worked out if she didn't make such a show of her "caring for the voters" and making it look like the other candidates did not.

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Jack — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:11 GMT

Call Michigan state senator Tupac Hunter, a prime OPPONENT to Michigan voters having a say in who becomes our next president, and demand that he allow a revote instead of running out the clock so his candidate, Barack Obama, wins by cheating.

(517) 373-0994

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Eric, Cinnnati OHIO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:16 GMT

Just like she was "consistently against NAFTA" even though she pushed it in a serious of meetings during her husbands presidency. I guess we know why she waited until after Ohio to put those out.

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KH, HI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:51 GMT

Watching Clinton rearrange her talking points is like watching a mouse in a maze, this way then that way, back and forth. As frustration builds so does the random movements.

There are some intelligent disagreements with Obama and his handling of the Rev. Wright issue, and are valid (although I don't agree), but he sticks to his beliefs while ackowledging there are other views.

He possesses real leadership skills; is that what some people are afraid of? That with change comes responsibility? That a country with no war, an honest approach to race relations and working together to make a better future for all somehow threatens the status quo of failure?

Clinton speaks of health care, as if only she can fix. She had a chance, she was in charge, she worked on it for 2 years, it failed. She could have tried again, she had 6 more years, she chose not to. Why does she claim that now she can do it? The Clintons lost a Democratic congress, so she gave up. They blasted the media, blamed the Republicans, and seemingly disdain the voting public.

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Dem-NPL, Bismarck, ND — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:53 GMT

Sen. Obama is playing hardball. The nomination is his if he's willing to hang tough. In the interests of the fall election, he could surrender his advantage and allow the seating of Hillary's ill-gotten delegates, but then he'd be criticized for not being resolute in the face of Hillary's machinations.

She clearly decided weeks ago that giving herself a chance to win the nomination was more important than electing a Democrat in November. She's thrown the kitchen sink at her fellow Democratic Senator. If he doesn't stand firm on winning the convention fight, and take the same "worry-about-thefall-when-it-gets-here attitude, he doesn't deserve to be president.

He will stand firm. He's from the south side of Chicago.

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BOO-HOO LOS ANGELES, CA. — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:30:13 GMT

HILARY, ACCORDING TO YOU "EVERY AMERICAN HAS A RIGHT TO BE A PART OF OUR GREAT DEMOCRACY, EVERY VOICE SHOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND EVERY VOTE COUNTED. "

OBVOUSLY YOU DIDN'T THINK, "EVERY VOICE SHOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE HEARD" WHEN YOU VOTED NOT TO SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA BUT NOW THAT YOU ARE LOSING, EVERY VOICE MUST BE HEARD AND SENATOR OBAMA IS STANDING IN THE WAY OF THAT. INSTEAD OF ALL YOUR CRYING AND WIMPERING WHY NOT SAY THAT IF SENATOR OBAMA AGREES TO A MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA RE-VOTE YOU WILL AGREE TO ABIDE BY THE POPULAR VOTE AND THE HELL WITH THE SUPER DELEGATES. THIS WILL SHOW THAT YOU ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT "EVERY VOICE HAVING, THE CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND EVERY VOTE COUNTED".

WHAT ABOUT YOUR COMMENT ON 10/10/07 REGARDING THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY WHEN YOU SAID "IT'S CLEAR, THE ELECTION THEIR HAVING IS NOT GOING TO COUNT FOR ANYTHING". I GUESS YOU WEREN'T TO WORRIED THEN ABOUT "EVERY VOICE HAVING THE CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND EVERY VOTE COUNTED"

THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT PEOPLES VOTES. ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS WINNING THE WHITE HOUSE.

SAUL ANUZIS HAD IT RIGHT WHEN HE SAID __SHE THUMBED HER NOSE AT THE ENTIRE STATE BY REFUSING TO CAMPAIGN HERE, NOW THAT SHE IS LOCKED IN A TIGHT NOMINATION BATTLE AND NEEDS MICHIGAN VOTERS, I SUGGEST THEY EXTEND HER THE SAME COURTESY SHE SHOWED THEM.

YOU, LIKE YOUR LOUDMOUTH HUSBAND GO FROM STATE-TO-STATE SAYING ANYTHING AND DOING ANYTHING YOU CAN TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE THE BEST CHOICE FOR THIS COUNTRY. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SO STUPID?

YOUR GOING DOWN BIG TIME BABE, DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE ASS ON THE WAY OUT.

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Jack — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:30:15 GMT

This Democrat will seriously consider John McCain if Obama becomes the nominee by denying Michigan and Florida.

Obama/Rezko '08: "Change without experience"

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JOE Rock Rapids Iowa — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:31:42 GMT

Hillary Clinton wants to have Michigan and Florida delegates; because she is losing the democratic nomination at this point.

Hillary Clinton did not give a hoot about those states when she was ahead in the race. Hillary accepted the DNC punishment against those states at that time.

Now we have Hillary Clinton clawing for more delegates out of desperation. Now she wants those state delegates and will speak with her fork tongue, she now changes her tune.

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Walter Beisel — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:31:50 GMT

Thursday, March-20-2008

I consider Mrs. Clinton totally unfit to be President of the USA. All you have to do , look into her eyes, you see nothing but ice cold ambition and self serving steel. This person, I deliberately do not call her a woman, does use any means, legal or mostly immoral, to accomplish her goal.

Mr. McCain, who has suffered terrible during his Internment in Vietnam, deserves our respect. Having said that, he is no more suitable to be President than Mrs. Clinton, although for other reasons. If he would be the Nations leader, WW3 would only be around the corner. He is not in the least interested to find peaceful means of co-existence with other nations.

Barack Obama is not the ideal choice either, but the best choice available. He is definitely superior in intelligence, has the capability of adaptation to any given situation. He is smart enough to know that he must make use of the best brains in the country to rectify multiple problems facing the US.

Unfortunately, the incident with his pastor and his church, is being used and abused to the fullest to drag him down. The news media in general, but one TV news service in particular is hell bend to get him out of business.

These ultra right, fanatics don’t let a day go by when they do not use every little item to drag him down. One in particular, who works in partnership with a more moderate commentator, is claiming to be impartial. This person, while intelligent, has no class. He constantly interrupts his opponents, is outright rude and certainly does not do himself any favour by having opinions which are many times absolutely wrong.

This person, does profess to know (among other items) health care systems of other nations, yet he is mostly uninformed, misinformed or gravely mistaken.

There is another male person, almost as bad, on a competitors News service. While he is more often right in his assessments of happenings, he is also sometimes misinformed, but does not have any scruples to pass on his misguided ideas to the general public.

No, I am not an African American, No, I am not a Democrat, No I am not a Republican, but I am a reasonable thinking person, who is sick and tired to listen to Politicians who misrepresent the facts and don’t even get red in their faces.

I am Canadian Citizen, I hold the American People in the highest esteem. I would hope that the person who will be in the White House, will have the opportunity to reverse 16 years of doubtful decisions.

WB

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Proud Oregon Veteran — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:31:50 GMT

How many times will she flip flop on issues before everyone sees through her true self? She has flopped on NAFTA, on the War, on drivers licences, on race relations, on her taxes and now again on Florida and Michigan. She will do ANYTHING to win and slime Senator Obama. Calling out Obama on rules that not only she agreeded upon but publically said over and over again last year that she would not seek in those two states. Ask yourself America, do you really want another Commander in Chief that will do anything to have it their way and change the results of an election only for their own good? She is Shameless.

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JNZ in Michigan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:32:28 GMT

Hillary is right.

A few months ago the vote in Michigan did not matter. We had been told it would not count. Now it is obvious that it does matter a lot. It could decide who wins the nomination. it is because the race is so close that we should be counted. Without it, it is possible that the person who has the most popular support would not be nominated. The only way to find out is to count all of the people.

We make a huge deal about someone changing their mind. As circumstances change, a person should re-evaluate their position. That is how we learn from mistakes. Do you really want another president who just "stays the course"?

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Jack — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:23 GMT

Call Michigan state senators who are blocking Michigan voters from having a say in who becomes our next president.

I called the Democratic senators listed on the website below.

http://senate.michigan.gov/SenatorInfo/alphabetical_list_of_senators.htm

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joshua, portland, or — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:24 GMT

GOOD says CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and ect ect.. now we can keep ratings ups and run more VIAGRA commercials..

This election is about RATINGS not votes you morons. Blitzer, Cooper, Oberman there all just pitch men for whomever is willing to buy Ad time.

THE real tell in the media bias is this.. HAVE THESE "News" shows raised there ad rates that will tell you where the real bias is.

As long as Wolf can keep pushing Viagra and Toyota Trucks at 300k for 30 seconds they will ldo anything it takes to spin this election as "in-doubt"

ITS A MEIDA EVENT .. its not an election .. come one yall get a clue

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MR, Issaquah, Wash — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:25 GMT

I would like to share the following article from newsweek:

Prophets and Politicians
As Sen. Barack Obama deals with the fallout of controversial remarks by his pastor, a noted historian explains how the Rev. Jeremiah Wright came to say what he did.

When it was revealed that Sen. Barack Obama's longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, had called upon his congregation to reject "God Bless America" and instead shout "God damn America," the Democratic presidential candidate was forced into damage control. Obama distanced himself from the remarks, calling them "inflammatory rhetoric," and Wright, who was an adviser to the senator, no longer serves on the campaign in any capacity. In an impassioned speech on Tuesday, Obama reflected on the "racial stalemate" that has divided this country and reiterated his denunciation of his pastor's comments, but added, "I can no more disown him [Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother."

Edward J. Blum, a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University and author of "W. E. B. Du Bois, American Prophet" and "Reforging the White Republic: Race, Religion, and American Nationalism, 1865-1898," suggests that while some Americans may be understandably offended by Wright's divisive remarks, those remarks are part of a long and storied tradition among African-American church leaders who have forged Christian ideologies and rhetoric to condemn racial discrimination. Blum spoke with NEWSWEEK's Jamie Reno about this history and the entry of race as a front-burner issue in this presidential campaign. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: You've said that African-American church leaders have taken America's Christian values and turned them against the nation's practitioners of racial discrimination, violence and imperialism for hundreds of years. When and how did this tradition begin?
Edward J. Blum: It began even before the United States became the United States, during the slave trade. Throughout slavery, African-Americans used the Bible to challenge their enslavement. Olaudah Equiano, a slave who was later freed, wrote a narrative juxtaposing the Christianity of the slaveholders vs. his own Christianity. Frederick Douglass said he hated the Christianity of whites but loved the Christianity of Christ. As Africans became Americans and embraced Christianity, they continued to turn the teachings of Jesus against whites.

When it was revealed that Sen. Barack Obama's longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, had called upon his congregation to reject "God Bless America" and instead shout "God damn America," the Democratic presidential candidate was forced into damage control. Obama distanced himself from the remarks, calling them "inflammatory rhetoric," and Wright, who was an adviser to the senator, no longer serves on the campaign in any capacity. In an impassioned speech on Tuesday, Obama reflected on the "racial stalemate" that has divided this country and reiterated his denunciation of his pastor's comments, but added, "I can no more disown him [Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother."

Edward J. Blum, a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University and author of "W. E. B. Du Bois, American Prophet" and "Reforging the White Republic: Race, Religion, and American Nationalism, 1865-1898," suggests that while some Americans may be understandably offended by Wright's divisive remarks, those remarks are part of a long and storied tradition among African-American church leaders who have forged Christian ideologies and rhetoric to condemn racial discrimination. Blum spoke with NEWSWEEK's Jamie Reno about this history and the entry of race as a front-burner issue in this presidential campaign. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: You've said that African-American church leaders have taken America's Christian values and turned them against the nation's practitioners of racial discrimination, violence and imperialism for hundreds of years. When and how did this tradition begin?
Edward J. Blum: It began even before the United States became the United States, during the slave trade. Throughout slavery, African-Americans used the Bible to challenge their enslavement. Olaudah Equiano, a slave who was later freed, wrote a narrative juxtaposing the Christianity of the slaveholders vs. his own Christianity. Frederick Douglass said he hated the Christianity of whites but loved the Christianity of Christ. As Africans became Americans and embraced Christianity, they continued to turn the teachings of Jesus against whites.

But we've obviously come far since the days of Frederick Douglass. Is it still appropriate or effective for African-American pastors to condemn America with such harsh rhetoric?
Well, it's important to make a distinction between prophets and politicians. Rev. Wright doesn't want to be a politician, he wants to be a prophet, and prophets always border on treason and heresy. Their social function is to push the envelope, to speak the unspeakable. Politicians like Obama, however, have a different set of tasks. Their job is to bring unity among diversity. For Obama it would be inappropriate to say "God damn America," but not for Rev. Wright.

How do you think Obama handled this controversy in his speech on Tuesday?
He handled it beautifully, because he refused to repudiate Wright completely. He held on to the notion that [Wright] was a strong influence in his life, while repudiating specific words. Obama, who is savvy about hating the sin and loving the sinner, continues to see Wright as more than just those words. And let's not forget that the notion of God judging America doesn't just come from African-American churches or from the left. We heard it from Billy Graham as far back as the 1960s, and more recently from [one right-wing religious group] who would go to soldiers' funerals and say that the war was happening because of homosexuality and that God is judging America. It comes from different places for different reasons.

How much damage do you think the surfacing of Wright's remarks has inflicted on Obama's campaign, especially among non-African-Americans?
There is real damage. I've gotten two types of e-mails since Obama made his speech [on Tuesday], the first set coming from other academics who support Obama reminding me that great African-American leaders throughout history have said these same types of things. I've received another set of e-mails from old friends from high school, more white, middle-class, mainstream folks, who are all saying the same thing: "Can you believe this guy [Wright] said this?"

Do you think Michelle Obama's comment in Wisconsin last month that, “for the first time in my adult lifetime I am really proud of my country” will resonate more negatively in some voters' minds now with the revelation of Wright's remarks?
Yes. It already is being used in the blogosphere. The question of Obama's relationship to American patriotism and nationalism will be asked more forcefully now.

Obama's upbringing was secular, but while living in Chicago in his late 20s he embraced Christianity and Rev. Wright's church. What do you think attracted him to Christianity and to this congregation?
The church is the heart and soul of black organizing, language and rhetoric. I'm sure all of those factors brought him. And it wouldn't surprise me if he found real emotional sustenance and belief there, as well. The church was one of first organizations where African-Americans could lead. Your country tells you you are a boy, you are soulless, you are beneath human, but you can go to church and be a son and daughter and prince and princess of God. It's a place where workers became accountants, where you learned skills of leadership and business, and that history is still with us. And it's appropriate Obama ends up in a church in Chicago, the hub of South-North interactions, of African-American history. Thousands of African-Americans sang hymns on trains to Chicago. They would stop their watches as they passed the Mason-Dixon line, and bring their church sensibilities with them.

If Obama is the Democratic nominee, how big an issue will these remarks by his longtime reverend, and the issue of race in general, be in the general election?
They will be an issue, but [presumptive nominee] John McCain will have to be very careful about using any words than can be racially coded. And I suspect he'll push hard to win the support of the Latino community, his easier, more natural political ally. There are ugly aspects of this, but a more open discussion of race could be edifying if there are truly deep conversations about the realities of discrimination. There's still a racial divide in this country; having these conversations could be a positive.

So you're saying something good may have come out of Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory remarks?
His rhetoric is certainly problematic and troubling, but prophets, whether it be Wright or W.E.B. Du Bois, are necessary. They dream dreams, they cast visions, they challenge the world as it is. In 1904 Du Bois said that God is made of one blood, and that all men are brothers. That was absolutely treasonous talk in 1904. But of course you look back now and say his vision was right

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Corrie Oakes, Redding, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:33 GMT

Hillary the great spin artist. There seems to be nothing that can stop her rewriting everything said or done. And somebody wants her in the White House, Why?

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Dave , Tampa, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:43 GMT

Hillary,

Don't completely destroy your legacy.
It's time to step aside

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Sue, Bloomington, IN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:35:10 GMT

It galls me that Hillary Clinton has absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the voters in this country. Everyday she becomes more of a caricature of herself--the pandering politician who will do anything to get elected.

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Willis — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:37:29 GMT

Hillary is not a visionary, she is not a worker, she is not a leader, she is not presidential material!
She is like George Bush in every respect.

But I am confident that most American recognize Character and Integrity. Hillary has no character nor integrity because she has been caught in too many lies! She does not have the experience previously claimed. In fact, she has less legislative experience than Barack!

Americans: Vote CHARACTER and INTEGRITY

VOTE OBAMA

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J, Michigan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:37:34 GMT

docrock,tx I couldn't have put it better myself.

C'mon MSNBC please be impartial, respectable and reputable journalists. Obama is not the messiah he is merely an overly ambitious opportunistic and extremely arrogant empty suit.

Play fair MSNBC - Olbermann is the worst talk about being in love with Obama even Matthews is fairer and Joe Scarborough is one of the fairest of then all.

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Thirsty For Leadership — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:13 GMT

It takes a child (Hillary) to raze a village (Democratic Party).

Is there a senior Democrat out there who has the guts to show some leadership and end this thing? Al? John? Bill Richardson? Just announce your affiliation and begin the fight for the Whitehouse.

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Drew Rocker, Portland, Oregon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:23 GMT

Hillary has almost destroyed the possibility of either Democratic candidate being elected President. I'm sure she couldn't care less if it isn't going to be her. The superdelegates may have wasted too much time already. The sooner they put Obama over the top, the sooner he and the party can undertake the necessary damage control.

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JB — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:49 GMT

she signed the papers and agreed not to campaign and voiced no concern over disenfranchisement of Florida or Michigan voters until just before S. Carolina! Hypocrisy again!

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Lalo, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:40:46 GMT

So you guys are crucifying Hillary for backtracking on her MI primary statement; no different than Obama backtracking on 'never having heard Wright speak as he did'....at least Hillary never claimed to purify America, so I might as well vote for the candidate that can actually get things done
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Hillary Clinton 08

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Robert Hussein Harris — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:40:50 GMT

I really want to know why the press is basically ignoring the fact that the republican legislatures in these states are the people who did this, taking away Democrats votes AGAIN. How about you do a little fact reporting from the media rather than simply promoting the ridiculous rag- magazine type material that we see all too much of lately? TELL THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS TO THEM...AGAIN!

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Dot — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:41:31 GMT

The bible says in PROVERBS 22 V 24-25 " Don't associate with an angry man: make no hot-tempered man your companion. If you do, you may learn his ways and find yourself caught in a trap."
That Pastor, Jeremiah Wright is an angry man.

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Dan G., Pensacola — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:41:38 GMT

A 50/50 split is just the same as not allowing Michigan and Florida to count - not to mention with Obama dropping like a rock Clinton would be stupid to do this; not to mention she already beat him bad in Florida.

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Catherine Strickland, Richmond Hill, GA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:42:14 GMT

Being the race is so close and with the scandal about Obama's Pastor, Hillary certainly deserves the right to push for FL and MI. It's not fair to the states or the country for them not to settle this matter. Obama's loyalty to anti-American Pastor & Church will certainly lose him the election in the fall and we will have another terrible Republican again. I don't think this Country can take another four more years. Ugh.

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Y, MI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:42:50 GMT

NAFTA is far from being Hillary Clinton's first flip-flop. If you wonder where she really stands - notice the lobbyists still like her much better than McCain or Obama.
http://unitedagainsthillary.wordpress.com

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Jobe, CO — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:43:26 GMT

I wish the other democratic candidates (Biden, Edwards, Dodd, Richardson, etc) would speak out on this issue since Hillary is implying that there was no agreement between them, and that they too were foolish to remove their names from the ballot in Michigan. Perhaps when CNN takes a break from their tabloid journalism they can clarify with these gentlemen whether there was an agreement or not.

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Frank, detroit — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:43:40 GMT

It seems to me that the Obama posters are very worried they keep posting the same comments or very similar - get a life you cult like idiots - he is taking you all for a ride and laughing at all of you,

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VC Ohio — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:43:52 GMT

All I know is we don't need a racis, hate mongering, unamerican liar, running for President. Tell the Hussein guy to go to Pakistan.

+++++++++
WOW and you sound exactly like what you claim not to want.

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Dave , Tampa, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:44:23 GMT

Hillary,

Don't completely destroy your legacy.
It's time to step aside

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C Jay — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:44:48 GMT

Hey Chuck, maybe Obama's poll numbers are down due to the swift boating hit job MSNBC and other networks are doing on him! Do the same thing to Clinton now and we can see where she is in the polls next week and discuss. If you need some info to "hit" her i=on , I have plenty that you guys NEVER COVER!

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Danno London, Ky — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:46:04 GMT

I am a small r-republican. Do the democrats know what that is? That is a person who is fiscally conservative, but socially progressive. (In other words) I don't want the nation to go bankrupt giving away my hard earned tax dollars to every welfare program that can be dreamed up to create a position for some bureaucrats. Also I don't like the way the Monday morning quarterbacks have second guessed the war in Irag. Yes, it probably was a mistake, but, where was everybody then when the war drum was being beaten. Everyone was for it, but when things go bad, all are against it. I want you to know, that I think there is much more to this than the public knows and even if Hillary or Barack gets elected, they will have a (Come to Jesus Moment) when they are briefed by the transition team in the White House about the enemy we all face. It will be impossible for them to do what they are already backpeddling away from, an all-out commitment to leave Irag immediately. They will learn all the state secrets that prevent this kind of departure from the middle east. By the way, this entire election insanity is being driven by the news media to bolster viewing ratings. Isn't that obvious.

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Hunt, Cut n Shoot, Texas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:46:24 GMT

Barack should simply say...
"Senator Clinton, I'll be happy to sign off on any revote, so long as you admit to caring only now because you are trailing."

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MARI, SAN DIEGO, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:46:35 GMT

HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, OMG, I AM GOING TO THE BEACH, AND LOOK AT OUR GORGEOUS OCEAN.

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Rob in NV — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:46:46 GMT

I for one am VERY disappointed in Obama. He is supposed to be a different kind of politician, and yet here he is doing anything he can to avoid having revotes in two states where he knows he won't win. THIS is not a "new politician". This is an old-style southside Chicago political HACK, and we should not be fooled by him.

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:47:32 GMT

Barack Obama blamed the Iraq war for higher oil prices and skyrocketing debt Thursday as he sought to tie the unpopular war to the slumping economy in working-class West Virginia.

The Democratic hopeful is trying to cut into Hillary Clinton's base in West Virginia. The state's demographics appear to favor Clinton, whose support is strongest among older white voters and blue-collar workers.

"When you're spending over $50 to fill up your car because the price of oil is four times what it was before Iraq, you're paying a price for this war," Obama said. "When Iraq is costing each household about $100 a month, you're paying a price for this war."

By linking the economy to the war, Obama is playing to his perceived strength as someone who spoke out against the war as a state lawmaker in Illinois. He has criticized Clinton for only recently opposing the war and said Thursday that her criticism of Republican John McCain's war policies lacks teeth.

"Her point would have been more compelling had she not joined Senator McCain in making the tragically ill-considered decision to vote for the Iraq war in the first place," Obama said to cheers.

It was the third consecutive day that Obama set aside his usual stump speech and delivered a more focused issue speech. He discussed race relations on Tuesday and the foreign policy consequences of the Iraq war Wednesday.

Obama has won more states than Clinton, leads in the popular vote and holds a nearly insurmountable lead in pledged delegates. But neither candidate can clinch the nomination without help from superdelegates, the party leaders who are not bound by any primary or caucus and are free to vote for whomever they choose. Clinton hopes a strong finish in the remaining primaries will persuade superdelegates to back her in a close race despite the delegate shortfall.

West Virginia holds its primary May 13. The economy is a key issue in West Virginia and Obama aides concede that Clinton is expected to perform well here.

"For what folks in this state have been spending on the Iraq war, we could be giving health care to nearly 450,000 of your neighbors, hiring nearly 30,000 new elementary school teachers, and making college more affordable for over 300,000 students," Obama said.

Obama was introduced at the University of Charleston by West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, who played up Obama's blue-collar credentials and his familiarity with his home state's coal industry.

"He's a man who's worked for everything he's achieved. That's something I can't say," Rockefeller joked. He said Obama can see the world "through the eyes of those who are in the trenches everyday struggling to make ends meet and who are fighting to keep their families together."

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Richard M., Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:48:57 GMT

This is the answer Ms. Clinton gave to NPR in New Hampshire about the early primaries in Michigan and Florida - they won't count, she said:

NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

Here's a link to the short (edited) byte with the interviewer's question and the response:

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=zydzt

Here's a link to the unedited longer byte with her full answer:

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=u01y4

Here's the link to the full original NHPR interview on 10/10/07 :

http://www.nhpr.org/node/13858

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Jill F., Tulsa, OK — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:51:01 GMT

I'm almost 100% positive that this comment will not be posted (considering that this seems to be Obama's Grand Central Station), but I'll put in my two cents anyway.

I find it completely unbelievable how people are able to continue to say, with a straight face, that Obama is the "real deal" or the man to bring change. Am I the only person who sees everything that he does as politically motivated? He's not like all the rest, huh? Well, he sure fought like hell to become one of them in the Senate.

I'm sorry, but after hearing the statements coming out of Obama's "spiritual adviser's" mouth, I will have a very hard time voting for him in November (and I'm a hard-core Democrat). You can say that the views of his minister are not his own, but I know that I would not be able to sit in the pews on Sunday morning, week after week, just to listen to that man spew his harmful and destructive message of hate. I shudder to think about what kinds of things people would be saying about Hillary should it have come to light that she attended a church where the white pastor made anti-black or anti-American statements. Why the double standard? Yes, I understand there is a race problem in America, but I also know that the message spread by Jeremiah Wright is NOT the way to bridge the divide.

I also would not pick someone who makes such statements to be my spiritual adviser. What kind of "judgment" does that show? Get a clue, people. Obama is like all the rest - he is not the savior of the U.S. and he will NOT bring any change to our political system. You can see that through his current actions. It's a little frightening to think that he might very well be the Democratic nominee...

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KHarrington, Cleveland OH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:51:25 GMT

Respecting the voices of the good people of Michigan and Florida I don't see as desperation. It might be different if these were not important states to the overall count in the end. Plus--the historical nature of this voting season and the popularity of these two candidates I believe merits a flexible approach. What's Obama afraid of anyway?
I think Hillary standing up for the rights of these people to have a say in the political process is noble and she should be respected for that.
Hillary 08!

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Sue, Bloomington, IN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:51:50 GMT

Thirsty for leadership

It takes a child (Hillary) to raze a village (Democratic Party).

I love it!!

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Louise, Albany, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:52:04 GMT

Senator Obama and the DNC have forgotten one of the freedoms we have in America....the right to vote and have the vote count. The DNC tried to put Michigan and Florida in 'time out'. Are we in Kindergarten? The states have the right to schedule their votes whenever they want. This is the Party that allows convoluted voting systems to take place (caucuses, primaries, combo caucuses/primaries, double voting, proportional distribution, etc.) and is questioning Florida and Michigan because they want their votes to be counted and their delegates to be seated. The DNC had better get their act together or they will be waiting another 4 years before they can put up another nominee for President. Chuck Hagel may be right...we may need another Party. I am a life long embarrassed Democrat.

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danno, London, KY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:52:10 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen: I have been trying for 3 months to have a message posted on this site, yet it never appears. What gives? I always seem to see the same people's entries time and time again. You should be a little more DEMOCRATIC yourself, if you really want various opinions, you should let them be seen.

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Ellie B — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:52:53 GMT

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Howard, New York City — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:53:39 GMT

This effort to pretend that it's Obama who's blocking the revote and not the Michigan legislature poses a serious question for Clinton supporters: does this start to make you wonder about her sanity and about her ability to deal with the truth? Are you not the least bit worried that a candidate who bends the facts to fit her own reality is unfit to govern on Day One? Is this not the problem we just experienced the last eight years with Bush and Cheney?

I ask this seriously. Answers, someone?

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Suzie Howard, Honolulu, HI — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:53:43 GMT

Check out this website where another black minister dogs the heck out of Obama. He definitely does not think very highly of him and says he shouldn't be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

This preacher also states "We've already had a BLACK President, Bill Clinton" referring to him having come from a poor back ground and helping the poor as he understands them better than Obama does. He further says, "Obama would be the 2nd black president, not the first." He also says to stop blaming whites for their problems. Check it out on youtube.

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:54:08 GMT

There is only one word to describe why Hillary has lost this nomination:

ARROGANCE!

Hillary supporters can scream all they want about Michigan and Florida but Hillary's arrogance, the fact that she thought she had this primary wrapped up, the fact that all the media were crowning her as the nominee this past summer, that she thought it was owed to her, that she thought it would be over with her winning the nomination by Super Tuesday is what did her in.

Go ahead and blame Obama all you want but Hillary lost this nomination because of her own blunders and arrogance. She had no money and no plan to carry her beyond Super Tuesday and ran into an unexpected ground swell for another candidate that put her so far behind that she could not catch up because her strategy to win only certain States backfired. Deny this all you want but those are the facts. Hillary beat herself.

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Fred m, des moines,iowa — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:58:21 GMT

what Chirch do you go to Billerey?.
May be someone should tape your minister.

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loris bay — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:58:36 GMT

I have a new found respect for McCain after reading that he kicked out a staffer for sending out a Rev. Wright tape. This deed was also linked to linked to Laura Ingram. If Hillary wins I will without a doubt vote for McCain. I would rather see Obama loose to McCain than to Hillary. I dont just dislike her, I dislike her with a passion.

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Ginger, Norman, OK — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:58:44 GMT

Hillary has been campaigning for this nomination far longer than most people think. Someone should ask Alan Page (former Minnesota Viking....now on the Minn. Supreme Court) if we was approached about being V.P. a few years ago. Poor Hillary has been counting on this nomination for a long time...I'm sure Bill promised he'd be sure she got it if she would just stand by her man. She thinks it's owed to her. She doesn't think a bit more lying and cheating will matter....as long as she gets her due. Didn't she suffer for our nation's good? Hasn't she paid the ultimate price (humiliation)? It's good to see how many here are "onto" her.

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(Vernon Lunsford, Murfreesboro, Tn.): — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:58:45 GMT

This is the United States of American, I am for John McCain, "The Man". Every state should count and every vote should. No party should have the right to take away any vote in any election. We have the right to vote and the right to be counted. Every American should be upset with what is happening in these two states. This is not the fault of the Florida citizens of the Michigan citizens. This is not how the path to the general election should be handled. My question, is this what we call democracy. I don't think so! Go John McCain, Keep our NATION SAFE and SECURE. If the DNC has this much power, think about the rest of the country down the line!!!!!!!

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Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Mary, MD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:59:29 GMT

Ok Obama supporters, we get the fact that you hate Clinton and think Obama walks on water. We understand that all of you have to dominate all of the blogs to make sure you are heard. We hear you because your writing the same drival on blog after blog. Now hear this....tour candidate id DONE!!! He no longer has the right to tout his "judgement", transparency, "integrity", "words matter" BS any longer since he is NOT a "different" politician...he is WORSE. So why don't you Obama followers quit bashing Clinton and McCain. Oh, and while you are at it, start focusing on the short comings of your leader Obama.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Robert Hussein Harris — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:59:30 GMT

Danno London, Ky (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:46 PM)
“I am a small r-republican. Do the democrats know what that is? That is a person who is fiscally conservative, but socially progressive. (In other words) I don't want the nation to go bankrupt giving away my hard earned tax dollars to every welfare program that can be dreamed up to create a position for some bureaucrats..."

What does your rant have to do with this topic? Do you just go around posting non-sequiturs everywhere you go? Try making relevant posts please.

Rob in NV (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:46 PM)
"...and yet here he is doing anything he can to avoid having revotes in two states..."

You seem to not understand that Obama hasn't done a single thing to prevent ANY votes(notice I didn't say "revote" since there never was an official original vote). It is the Republican legislatures in those states that are refusing to do this, and the ones who did this(no doubt intentionally) in the first place. Try putting the blame where the blame is due rather than spouting some partisan bull you heard on Rush Limbaugh.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Deninge, San Leandro, CA — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:01:42 GMT

Why is that Ms. Hillary once said that Michigan and Florida don't matter THEN; but matters NOW!

Isn't that flip-flopping?

No matter what the polls or the critics say, Obama's going all the way!

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:02:24 GMT

C Jay (Sent Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:44 PM):

How true, comical and sad at the same time C Jay. The media and pundits say Obama needs to move forward, distance himself from Wright and get back on the issues. He needs to stay away from playing any kind of race card and stop talking about Rev Wright. Yet the same media and pundits play those Wright tapes over and over and over while limiting their questions to Obama in interviews to questions about Rev. Wright. How the heck is he supposed to do what they say he should when they are the ones who keep him tied to one issue. Like I said, laughable but sad.

But the media in a way are doing Obama a favor. People are getting sick of the Rev. Wright tapes and are now coming around to thinking let's move on, let's get off Obama's rear and let's wrap up this nomination.

Look for an Edwards endorsement of Obama. If not tonight then in a few days. If he does not endorse Obama tonight on Jay Leno listen carefully to what Edwards is going to say about the Rev. Wright issue and about Obama's speech. Therein will lie your endorsement.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Vanessa -Kansas City — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:02 GMT

Why does the media put SPINS on the news. From the accounts from recent reprts, this sermon took place a while ago and has been reported on. Why are we digging it back up? The reason why the party is split is because the media continues to pull crap out and report on it all day unitl it raises our hair. This campaign will not get clean because the media cntinues to thrown things out there over and over again until you have to respond, which is not always positive. We are not reviewing what is said in church on the news. Come on give me a break! First he is a muslim now he attend the WRONG church. Is this about Presidency or Religion? This too much. We are not dragging the Mormons down for thier flaws and beliefs and we are not dragging those of the Catholic faith down. We continue to degrade him for his race, beliefs, religion and those he is associated with. Is this ALL we can find on him to pull him down? Some of your comments are making me sick. Look at yourself and tell me how different you are in these circumstances, how doyou operate, who do hang with. If he is condemed for his association them the persons condeming him must be really lonely. I have not met a peson yet that shared "every" one one of my beliefs, but that is the beauty of being your own being despite what you see and hear.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Vince Los Angeles — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:07 GMT

To Ron from California. You went on and on for half a page on why you have a "well reasoned" distrust of Obama on the Rev Wright issue. I CHALLENGE you to point to the exact point in Wright's speech where he preaches hate. Please don't use the example of how America imported Aids to kill black people because that is not a racist theory it's a conspiracy theory that has been promulgated by more than just African Americans. I am positive that you will not be able to do it.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Robin, Warwick, Rhode Island — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:05:15 GMT

I used to like Hillary and Bill when he was first elected. I have seen a side of both since this election and I don't like either. Hillary is only out for herself, which she proved when she stay with Bill after he embarrased her twice before the whole country. She doesn't deserve to be president or even a senator.

Obama is one of the best speaker I have ever heard. He is smart, articulate and good looking too. I am not sure about his experience. But look at where experience has gotten us lately. I am ready for new blood.

I just wish we were ready for a woman or a minority president.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

jacob, la, ca. — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:05:31 GMT

the current numbers by the most updated and accurate count (real clear politics), - pledged delegates: obama- 1414, clinton- 1246. (obama +168).
super delegates: clinton- 248, obama- 213.
super and pledged delegates: obama- 1627, clinton- 1494. (obama +133).
texas current delegates count: obama 98, clinton 94 with one delegate left to count. (hows victory?...)
obama's lead in pledged delegates is now 6.3% (168 lead out of total of 2660 pledged delegats awarded)

if we run all the remaining primaries, include the disgrace of michigan and florida, the count will stay just about the same or with even bigger margin in favor of obama.
why all this misinformation about the counts? who Else other then the clintons would have been allowed to proceed with this bogus race while shooting the party in the foot? (maybe in the head)?
it must be stopped now! lets save the real democratic cause!

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Susan, PA Voter — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:06:18 GMT

Contact everyone you know in Pennsylvania and urge them to vote for Obama.

Let's end this ridiculous Clinton charade in April, before we are further humiliated around the world.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

loris bay — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:06:26 GMT

Polls go up and down. Obama will be up again by a wide margin.

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

Mike, Miami Beach, FL — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:07:29 GMT

All this cynical language is crazy. Hillary is right we will not win in November if MI and FL are not counted. This is a fact no matter who the nominee is. SEAT THE DELEGATES...

Clinton: Legitimacy of nominee at stake

docrock,tx — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:07:30 GMT

If Obama and his hate filled reverend hijack this nomination,you will see a landslide win for McCain.I was an avid Biden supporter,with Richardson a close second.My mind was made up when "reverend"Jeremiah Wright used the pulpit to spew a message of hate towards White America.If Any candidate was seen in a White Supremacist meeting,people would have screamed to high heaven,but this is okay?For twenty years this has been going on,but it's OKAY??There is no excuse aceptable and if this closet Black Supremacist wins the nomination,I will campaign tirelessly for John McCain.Since he will not apologize for this hate filled diatribe,HE is the biggest racist in the race.