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Sa, Petaluma, CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:32:55 GMT

She also lied about being for the Iraq war first in an incredibly humorous and embaressing fashion that was quickly debunked... msnbc didn't cover that yet but other stations did -- was it abc? Are you so ready to backburner it? I've been waiting all weekend to see you give it some lip service.

By the way, those stories are only shelved if you chose to shelve them.

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Mel from PA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:33:44 GMT

WHY isn't anyone reporting on the fact that Hillary also misspoke this weekend when she tried to claim that she spoke out about Iraq BEFORE Barak. This is insane!

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Angela Prince, NYC, NY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:35:13 GMT

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/clinton_man_has_obama_moment.html

Ok - so now that Penn's gone, the Baltimore Sun is showing pictures of Clinton's campaign manager cheering for Obama?? Wow! That's GREAT!!! =-)

I think she's losing a lot of support, but I hope that we can resolve the primary and save money and resources for the Fall campaign. I will be voting for Obama because I agree with his views and appreciate the involvement he's brought about with voters like me.

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The TRUTH Hurts — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:37:24 GMT

The mainstream media has done nothing but nit-pick at Hillary and place her under a microscope, while allowing Obama to lie through his teeth constantly about a variety of subjects up to and including his relationship with indicted financeer Tony Rezko, and where he got the money to buy a house he couldn't afford.
I know this post will upset the ObamaNIACS on this board.
But it IS the TRUTH, and as we all know.....

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Sick of corruption, sick of the Clintons — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:39:23 GMT

Someone please explain to me how anyone could support Hillary Clinton for president. She is a pathological liar and cannot even manage a political campaign, much less the government of the United States. We also have the many scandals of the Bill Clinton administration, which will be revisited if Senator Clinton is our next President.

No thanks, Hillary. You have enough to do, just trying to keep an eye on Bubba.

Obama in 2008. Integrity matters and the Clintons have none.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:40:05 GMT

I just heard the report of how Clinton's stump speech story about an uninsured woman who was refused medical treatment was just that - a story.

In Clinton's defense and unlike the Bosnia sniper lie, it was a case of laziness rather than lying. Reportedly the Clinton campaign did hear this story from someone in Ohio. They just never checked it out to see what the real facts were.

Not as bad as lying, but then we also have seen a pattern of laziness throughout. They never figured out the delegate counts before Feb 5. They never looked at varying caucus rules until just before the event, when it was too late to organize for it. They never planned for anything less than a knockout on Feb 5. They seemingly got caught by surprise with a spend plan (or lack of a plan) that exceeded their fundraising, though they've raised incredible amounts.

All in all, can the Clinton campaign be characterized as anything but lazy? Kind of contrasts with the "workhorse" image she pushes, huh?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:41:00 GMT

If I was the lawyer for that hospital in Ohio, I would seriously be giving advice about how much of that $109 million they could get from the Clinton's in a slander and libel suit. Again, Hillary caught in a lie, won't that woman ever stop lying about herself and others?

*** Busy Bill: The former president is in Puerto Rico today and, as usual these days, he has a very full schedule. As we've noted several times, the pace of Bill Clinton's schedule is amazing.

If you were having to defend your lying wife a lot these days, you would be busy too!

Hillary Clinton
A Liar for all seasons

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Carrie in Texas — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:41:40 GMT

Does anyone have any doubt that a H.Clinton Administration would be marked by CHAOS, not to mention inept appointments, cronyism, mismanagement, lies, deceit, and never admitting a mistake?

Haven't we had enough of that under Dubya?

Also - how can a thinking person accept that there wasn't some connection between Clinton and the Columbian trade deal? The Columbians themselves stated they didn't know if Penn was representing the Clintons or not.

C'mon America, use your heads. Vote NO for this debacle in the making.

Obama '08

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hs — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:44:18 GMT

Can you imagine if one of Obama's advisors had done that? He would have lost a primary. Oh thats right, the Clintons put up an add in Ohio(which turned out wasnt true) saying that Obama's advisor went to Canada gave them the ole wink about Nafta. It cost him Ohio. Now lets see if the same thing happens when the tables are turned. Oh, but this time its true.

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fortuna — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:50:22 GMT

demconwatch.org is reporting that Obama picked up another 4 SD add-on's (from DC, Delaware, North Dakota and Missouri IIRC). Could you please verify?

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Dina, College Park, MD — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:50:53 GMT

To The Truth Hurts:
The post would only upset me if the facts you presented were credible whatsoever. The Rezko debacle was debunked two months ago by Bloomberg news. Obama did nothing illegal, and if he had, Clinton would have been all over it by now. Isn't there anything else you can find? Why keep beating the Rezko dead horse? If you want to talk about shady land deals, just ask the Clintons.

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modernwoman, Anytown,USA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:53:28 GMT

HRC also made a mistake saying that women did not have the right to vote in the 1916 election in MT that put the first woman, Rep. Rankin in Congress. They had the right to vote in MT since 1914.

You're tired now, Hillary, it's time to quit before further embarassment......

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Angie, Chapel Hill, NC — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:53:45 GMT

This "misspeaking" is becoming a habit for Hillary. Why haven't you at MSNBC covered her bogus Iraq claim? It is all over the other networks. Please start reporting this if you don't want us to start thinking you are showing a bias for Hillary. Thanks!

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Robin — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:54:26 GMT

Don't tell me the latest Stupid Delegate went to the local preschool and was convienced by the toddlers that Barry Obama was the wright guy for the job. Ever notice that they never say that his position on the economy or health care is better? It might be that he ripped off all his ideas from Hillary.

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sg, michigan — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:54:55 GMT

Hillary's hospital story typifies exactly how many Democrats feel about her.

It was a great story that genuinely tugged at our heartstrings.

But it was a lie. And this lie was employed to further the Clinton career. I feel a little dirty for believing this story and worse for passing it on.

Perhaps it was an innocent mistake. But now I remember that the Clintons don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

It's part of the win-by-any-means process. It's a short-sighted strategy that ultimately brings Hillary and her associates low.

This hospital story reminds me how I now regret voting for the Clintons in the 90's.

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JohnnyU, WA State — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:56:43 GMT

Folks still supporting Hillary: Are you not insulted by her lies?

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Rick,Ky — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:57:42 GMT

Here's the Truth"the TRUTh hurt's", your girl is Not a misspeaker, SHE'S A FLAT OUT LIAR. You can't handle the TRUTH! So it does'nt upset any Barack supporter & probably will put more vote's in his column.

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PulSamsara — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:58:41 GMT

Now, when will Hillary step down ? This is really becoming pathetic. Yes Clinton supporters... we all know that Hillary has every 'right' to stay on ... just NO good reason at all. What she is effectively saying Now is that she is willing to sacrifice the Democratic Party's chances in November to insure her leverage to petition for the VP slot. That's pretty Sleazy politicking Clinton supporters and you know damn well it is. What does that make YOU at this point?

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shirley, san jose, ca — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:59:07 GMT

Mark Penn is still working for Hillary's campaign as a consultant, this was confirmed by her campaign. It is hard to believe that Hillary was not aware of Penn's involvement as his role was to push the Columbia Trade bill through Congress. This is a direct reflection of Hillary's integrity and honesty.

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Stewart Lowery Charlotte, NC — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:59:16 GMT

To "the Truth Hurts"...the only documented liar is Hillary Clinton, and that is on tape, so make up all you want, but the public sees who the habitual liar is and now it is showing in her poll numbers. I would still support Hillary if she gets the nomination even though I am an Obama supporter, just because I am anti- Republican. However, don't try to divert attention from who the real AND documented habitual liar is in this contest.

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A New America — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:59:36 GMT

The Truth Hurts - Where did the Clintons get the money to buy that 12 MILLION dollar house in New York. They were supposedly broke when they left the White House. They "BORROWED" the money, from who? And why 12 million (back in the 90's) as compared to 3 million the Obama's spent. If you are broke you do not buy a 12 million anything.

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Bill Johnson, Anaconda, Montana — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:59:53 GMT

Another Obama vote from Montana.

Great!

More to come. Watch this space.

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dante baez mt pocono ,pa — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:03:31 GMT

and yet another lie from hillary
In Eugene, Ore., Saturday. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false.

Clinton on Saturday told Oregonians, “when Sen. Obama came to the Senate he and I have voted exactly the same except for one vote. And that happens to be the facts. We both voted against early deadlines. I actually starting criticizing the war in Iraq before he did.”

It’s an odd way to measure opposition to the war — comparing who gave the first criticism of the war in Iraq starting in January 2005, ignoring Obama’s opposition to the war throughout 2003 and 2004. (And Clinton’s vote for it

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Lisa, New Britain, CT CT for Change! — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:04:01 GMT

I read all of this with interest.

I reached my tipping point with her a month ago. I decided that my vote could never go to someone who employed the campaign tactics before Ohio and Texas. I saw right through her then. None of this surprises me. The irony is, she stays in this in case Obama falters. Yet he gains in strength (YES, the long campaign has sharpened him and allowed him to show the steep learning curve he has) yet she has made mistake after mistake after mistake in this long campaign. So who is this long campaign helping?

I reached my tipping point with regard to her a month ago, yet I feel no joy in seeing her fall.

Obama 08

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Jocelyn, Rockville, MD — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:05:20 GMT

@ The Truth Hurts 9:37 AM

In re: Rezko
- Obama spent 90 minutes w/ the Chicago Sun Times and 90 minutes w/ the Chicago Herald Tribune - the two papers who know the Rezko story the best and the two papers who had been pressuring Obama on this story the longest. He answered every question placed to him during these sessions by multiple reporters. Both papers pronounced themselved satisfied with his answers and essentially said "there's no there there". In addition, one of the papers (I forget which) said that Obama showed a level of transparency that the other candidates (meaning McCain and Clinton) should emulate. This occured on the weekend he released his tax returns, and was in mid-March. LOOK IT UP!

In re: money to buy the house. This came from his book royalties. In addition, he and his wife made several different offers for the house - negotiating with the seller (as is normally done). Their final offer was accepted, as it was the highest offer made for the house. All details about the purchase of the house, including information from the seller confirming that there was no "quid pro quo" with respect to the sidelot, is available on Obama's website.

Sorry Truth - I know it hurts, and I know you love to sling mud, but Obama is not a dirty politician. He's a heck of a lot cleaner than either McCain (Keating 5) or Clinton (Rose Law Firm)

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:05:42 GMT

Hil can hector Gen. Betrayus as much as she wants, but she still needs the delegates. And does she think Obama is going to be absent, or even silent? OBAMA WAS AGAINST THE WAR FROM THE BEGINNING!! HE will no doubt have a thing or two to say to Betrayus too.

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dante baez mtpocono,pa — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:05:49 GMT

“I don’t think it’s useful to set a deadline because I think it sends a signal to the terrorists and the insurgents that they just have to wait us out,” she said
in February 2005.
these are her words people. how can you trust this woman she would say anything to win

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Tired of Being Tired — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:06:18 GMT

The sad thing about Hillary's campaign is that, by all accounts, it still has support. I struggle to understand the comments posted here and elsewhere which basically disregard her, her campaigns, her family's efforts in this contest. Is her campaign not a reflection of how her husband came into power, how her husband governed, how she assisted in keeping him out of trouble - at all costs.

I agree that America is worth fighting for, but the fight for America has always been a sanctioned bout. Hillary is fighting a contest with below the belt shots, double teaming, official tampering or basically trying to fix the fight. Pollsters in PA should ask voters if they support the Clinton effort instead of sifting through the constant racial deflections of why they plan to vote against Barack.

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aMom in Kansas — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:06:19 GMT

Here is the URL for the blog spot about Clinton's attempt to recast herself as the first to oppose the war in Iraq.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/in-oregon-clint.html

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Dean, Waterbury, Ct. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:07:38 GMT

I was lowering myself this morning to watch the Today Show. They showed 2 incredibly nasty anti-Clinton snippets from Saturday Night Live. Viera (who on The View once called Bill Clinton a "dog") and Lauer were smirking as usual. What is it about NBC and their Clinton-hating? We Clinton supporters have got to promise to boycott NBC, Newsweek, Time, and the New York Times. How much coverage was there of Saint Barack of the Inspired claiming that he was a Professor of Law when he was no such thing?

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CW, NY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:08:11 GMT

And what about her new stand on "disenfranching" voters: she's against it in Michigan and Florida but apparently for it in North Dakota. On Friday night, she flew to North Dakota to speak to a dinner of delegates chosen by the popular vote and requested they switch their support to her (reported by a number of news outlets--maybe ABC got to this one first?). Seems as if this should be discussed more.

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To for Hillary — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:09:15 GMT

Why are they nitpicking every word out of Sen Clinton mouth? But obama makes a campaign ad "I never took lobbyist money" where he LIED. But obama says I only did five hours of work for rezko. LIED says he still friends after 17 years. But obama has the black panthers on his website. NOTHING from the media. But you pickup the obama campaign talking points everyday Clinton lied. Do your job MSM.

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Smith, AZ — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:10:01 GMT

Is lying in American politics a holy thing to do? Does Hillary know how to compete with a little transparecy?

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Cory - Greenville, SC — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:11:00 GMT

I find it odd that she would spend the weekend telling her supporters that she actually opposed the Iraq war before Obama did.

Typical Clinton rhetoric.

http://www.politivine.com

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Obamaniac, Auburn, NY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:12:01 GMT

Angela, thanks for the pics....lol u made my day! Hillary gracefully remove yourself from this race to the White House, u cant win...obviously your own campaign is catchin on, Hillary wont u join us?

Pullin for Obama 08'

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MSierra, SF — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:12:02 GMT

Hillary Clinton was fired from her first real job.
She was fired by the Chief of staff of the House
Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman.
Jerry Zeifman who supervised Hillary when she worked
on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary had a history of lies and unethical behavior

And she hasn't changed a bit !!

Dishonest, unethical Hillary Clinton
SAY ANYTHING !! DO ANYTHING !!

She lied about sniper fire in Bosnia
She lied about helping refugees in Macedonia
She lied about Gennifer Flowers
She lied about TravelGate
She lied about FBI files in her possesion
She lied about Norman Hsu
She lied about Peter Paul
She lied about 35 years of experience
She lied about her foreign policy 'experience'

If she gets elected she can make her own $100 Million
by selling out the public interest

Just like Bill !!

Hillary Gollum Clinton is following her 'precious'
She needs to be elected to make her own $100 Million
!!

Has any other ex-President made so much ?
Selling out America ?

Just say NO to Corruption and the Corporate interest
Just Say NO to self-dealing DC Insiders
No CLINTON, NO WAY

Why repeat a the corrupt 'Failed Presidency' of Bill Clinton ?

Obama '08
Character counts
Integrity counts

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Cindy Lou, TX — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:27:34 GMT

What a mess! While the Republicans can attack Obama with the so-called Rev. Wright story, they can attack Hillary with the fake Bosnia story, the fake hospital story, the Clintons' previous run in the White House story and Hillary's inability to run a strong, well-funded campaign. At this rate, the Republicans may win the White House again--a frightening thought.

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J.Allen - Royersford, PA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:30:28 GMT

I am truly sorry, but what it all boils down to is "she got caught". He was working for her, the subject matter should have been hush-hush, but it came out and I am happy. She is the most dishonest candidate that the democratic party has presented in a long, long, time. Yeah! she mispoke, she misheard, she misdirected. She IS a big mistake.

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Reality Check — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:32:00 GMT

"Truth," the post makes those of us who don't live in the land of denial wonder what you're talking about. Here's the truth and it's something at some point you should consider: the mainstream media's job is NOT to elect Hillary Clinton as President. Nor is it to create an artificial perception that everything is a level playing field. When HIllary Clinton is caught in lies, the media's responsibility is to report them. If you can't handle that, you might want to go back and re-read your sign-on name.

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neg — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:32:48 GMT

how dou know he couldnt afford it dumy with 2.6 million dolars in 2 years, obvious u must be from south or went to a poor public school that didnt tecah you math, rez raise money for many democratic candididates what about bill real estate deal 15.2 million from guy he helped as prez, thats's corrupt, whiteatwre, vince foster, monica, commodties gate where she made over 100,000 in 79 come on clown, there was no fire in bosnia and no truth doesnt hurt he is and will make his millions u will just SUCK!

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AC in LA, CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:33:06 GMT

Clinton is spiralling out of control. The public doesn't trust her & it's starting to seem like it's for good reason. It seems that despite her claims of being a very hands on micro manager, the truth is she just trusts her circle of loyalists. Nothing is vetted even after previous debacles. There is no unity in her campaign as illustrated by Penn's actions. And these taxes, though sanitized reveal some interesting business dealings. She really is like Rocky, Rocky lost.

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KC — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:33:08 GMT

Misspoke: Webster Definition
transitive verb
1 : to speak (as a word) incorrectly
2 : to express (oneself) imperfectly or incorrectly <claims now that he misspoke himself>
intransitive verb
: to speak incorrectly : misspeak oneself
Lie: Webster defintion: 1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression
Now that we have defined Misspoke and Lie, Clinton lies by misspeaking about her recollection of the Bosnia trip, vote on Iraq War and the hospital story. Hilliary, like Bill is a habitual liar, not misspeakers.

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J.Allen - Royersford, PA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:35:31 GMT

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Nj — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:36:13 GMT

She is a DISASTER
Hill Supporters get a clue
She lies all the time, Bill has banked bigtime on his presidency, She still has not revealed her earmarks...

Do you like a Liar???

OBAMA 08

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ME, CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:38:08 GMT

We've now reached the point where no matter what Hillary says or does, there's a block of 20-30% of the Democratic Party who are going to vote for her. When facts come out that should clearly call into question the woman's judgment and readiness to be commander in chief, it's now labeled as "media bias" by this group. Wow.

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Molly — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:40:36 GMT

GO HILLARY !!! We are ALL Looking forward to the day when obama is questioned on every comment - both he and Miss Michelle - she is a disgrace! The media needs to start looking for negative comments the way they go after Hillary - it is just so biased.
Obama will not win due to his radical friends - his background & judgment are just far too questionable.
But - we are not susposed to remember Wright - of 20 years - because he gave a speech - right???? And the many, many miss-statements he has made.

GO HILLARY !

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cmorris — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:41:26 GMT

I feel sorry for Clinton, she seems to not not do her own investigation. She just takes what's given to her and run with it. Remember she said George Bush provided her with the information and she thought it to be true so she vote for the war. Now another man in her life told her how to run her compaign, she went for it, and now look, then this sheriff tells her this story about the pregnant woman and she runs with it, the list goes on and on. She has proven that she doesn't use sound judgement. If she was to recieve a 3:00 call how can you trust her to use sound judgement. The lady will lie and point fingers just to keep from admitting any wrong doing.There's no real substance to her. She's right when she say's shes transparent. That she is very transparent and liar, power hungry and money greedy from the heart. The people of America should demand that she steps down this is Embarrassing.

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Just Wondering — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:43:46 GMT

Dean in CT,
Just out of curiosity, what news outlets are the "accurate and non-biased" ones these days according to those watching the news with Hillary-colored glasses? Just wondering what outlets I should check out. I'd love to see which "objective" journalists ignore lies about Bosnia, tall tales about hospitals, chief strategists working for precisely the opposite of what the campaign says it stands for, etc,etc,etc.

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has the Obama snow stopped yet?? Has the media covered it yet?? — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:46:18 GMT

I'm glad to see the last of Penn. Felt this way weeks ago.

I don't think voters are concerned by the amount of money earned by the Clintons in 8 years. They earned it. Haven't the Obamas become millionaires at a much earlier age that the Clintons?? I applaud anyone who works hard for their money. The Clintons left the White House owing 12 million in legal fees
defending themseves from the witch hunt and all the investigations that amounted to much to do about nothing. That commission spent over 90 million
(I believe that is correct, if not it is close). Now that makes me mad. What a waste of tax dollars.

Obama has told a ton of lies. Check it out on:
www.audacityofhyprocisy.com

Obama has said his Father was a freedom fighter when in fact he was part of one of the most corrupt & violent governments Kenya has ever had. Obama was a board member at the Woods Fund. MIchelle Obama has taken over a quarter million from Treehouse with ties to Wal-Mart Michelle's inflated salary at University of Chicage was increased by 150% after Obama became US Senator. He lied about being a professor (not) and the list goes on and on and on.
MSM just looks the other way.

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Amy of Illinois — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:47:12 GMT

I'm glad Penn is gone. It's about time and I'll probably donate more money because of it. He's been a poor strategist and a drag on the campaign. On a second note, it's funny how biased towards Obama MSNBC is that they are vetting the stories Obama tells on the campaign trail like they do Hillary. Obama's told stories about his parents ties to JFK and Martin Luther King that COULD NOT be true (and he knows it) but he continues to tell them because they make a good story. Hillary tells a story that was told to her on the campaign trail about a waitress and you hang her out to dry. I'm constantly sickened by how much Obama is being SHOVED down my throat. IT makes me want to vomit. I was open to voting for him (any dem) in the beginning but I will not vote for a phony. HIllary, like her or not, has proven her worth but I can't say the same about Obama. He's done nothing but run for President since being elected to the Senate. If this guy gets the nomination you can guarantee McCain will win. PERIOD!!!

Not one of my messages got posted yesterday. What exactly are you screening for? Content you approve of?

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California Indy — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:47:41 GMT

Paul Miller,
Regarding the hospital story, quick thought:

Senator Clinton says she's the most experienced and knowledgeable about healthcare, right? I think she is also--I'll grant her that (I think she has the wrong plan now but that's another point). So, as an expert on healthcare, she should know that it's against the law for a hospital to do what she says they were doing in her stump speech. She says she "had no reason to doubt what she was told." Really? She had no reason to doubt it? If she really understands healthcare, she'd have every reason in the world to doubt it.

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Peoria, IL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:47:43 GMT

Nice Bailout by Penn: Writing's on the wall & as Hillary gets more desperate & negative maybe Willimas gets blamed more than Penn. Anyway, he still keeps his day job.

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has the Obama snow stopped yet?? Has the media covered it yet?? — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:48:02 GMT

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John, West Hartford, CT — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:48:10 GMT

Dean,

Read your facts buddy. The University of Chicago did in fact support Obama's title as a Professor. That is precedent at that University long before Obama was given the title.

Lets wait together for the next Clinton exageration since she does this stuff to herself.

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the Truth Hurts — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:48:38 GMT

Can't wait for the higher taxes and the constant barrage of "the white man is to blame" from the obamamites. You know its coming.

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Michael — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:49:38 GMT

It looks like Obama is going to win this thing. I suggest everyone stop the name-calling and try and pull the party together for Novemeber. McCain will not be easy to defeat -- people like him personally. I urge everyone who wants an end to Republican rule to start the unifying process.

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Bull the Dog — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:50:41 GMT

First I have a hard time understanding why Clinton claimed to be the first person to oppose the war. When will she quit lying? I think ABC and Fox News are reporting this.
Oh God, what is there you'll be rewarded by lying? Do Americans love liars? You know, if you compare the lies told by Obama with those of Hillary's, you'll be shocked to find how a pathological liar she has become. It is sad.

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A.Brocco,Albuquerque,NM — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:51:03 GMT

Why would any sane individual vote for a pathological liar to be president of anything? Is this the direction we want our country headed for the next umteen years? Any person who thinks Hillary is the best person to be the leader of the U.S. is probably a latent pathological liar.

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Delores Rose-Kennedy in Tennessee — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:52:11 GMT

Those greedy old Clintons. Bill out campaigning when he could be earning more millions giving speeches. My, my, my. Obamamaniacs will find fault with this. Why not?? They do everything else.

Hillary 08

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Delores Rose-Kennedy in Tennessee — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:52:52 GMT

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donna, pgh., pa. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:54:34 GMT

Sure the sword is mightier; when it's swallowed, fallen on, or tripped over. Just ask Bill, and Hill, how war-fare-like tactics, cut off their heads, and their campaign to ribbons.

Pulling for Obama '08

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Jersey Joan — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:55:09 GMT

What is really funny about the Clintons is that the Republicans have been telling Democrats for years that these two are liars, and it's just now that the Dems have finally figured it out.

Here's some more news for you Dems. Obama is no different. So as soon as you get over your little love affair with this guy, you'll be doing the same thing to him as you are now doing to the Clintons.

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Bull the Dog — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:55:49 GMT

Actually "The Truth Hurts," the guys at First Read did a good job of looking at the Rekzo issue several times -- and I would say more than warranted. Maybe you mssed, but the posts are somewhere on FR. The NYT also had an article on this, as did CNN.
Sorry you missed. So, this is actually old news. There are far more significant issues than the Rekzo, as Obama has already clarified his relationship with Rezko few days before the race speech.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:56:52 GMT

Liar, Liar Pantsuits on Fire! Just more of the same with Hillary lying about this, that, and every other thing. We need change from the lying politicos like Clinton and McCain. Obama is a breath of fresh air compared to the stale old winds of the old school Washington power politics. Time for power to the people instead of power to the rich and greedy!

Go Obama!

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Ohio Mom — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:59:58 GMT

I'm so tired of women supporting Hillary just because she is a woman. I'm a woman too, but can't support such a liar as Hillary. Her Bosnia sniper fire story was jsut too much. I cannot trust what she says. Women, don't be fooled. Someday we might have a better woman candidate, but not now. Hillary just lies way too much.

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tim rogers, golden, colorado — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:09:47 GMT

Mr. Penn is the poster boy for how the politics of insiders, for insiders and by insiders has ruined Washington. He represents the worst kind of paid consultant who will sell any viewpoint, any time for the highest possible price. Sometimes, like this time, he is selling both sides of an issue. He represents the way the Clintons' have learned to manipulate public opinion by following polls and telling voters what they want to hear. He is the penultimate liar for hire working for the most deceptive couple in politics today.

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sd — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:18:37 GMT

The only reason that Penn was able to stay around for so long is that the media refused to report on his other activities. His firm was also known for its union-busting activities...and we did not hear word one about that.

I have a suspicion that the media were too busy trying to keep a profitable news story alive to cover Mark Penn the way they would have had he worked for Obama. I don't necessarily think the media favors one over the other, I think they favor the story of a long hard-fought, contentious race - but when does their coverage cese to be news coverage of a story and start to make the story / be the story.

The truth is - the Clinton campaign would not have done a thing about Mark Penn had he not gotten caught. If the media let this slide (as they have with other issues), he would still be there.

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deb albany ny — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:18:39 GMT

I was never a Hillary Clinton supporter. But I have to say it isn't even fun anymore to watch her campaign crash and burn.

I truly wish she would drop out because this is just an embarrassment at this point.

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Independent Voter, FL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:24:58 GMT

I am curious as to when we will see information on Clinton and Peter Paul and also when do we learn about Maggie Williams from Hillary's campaign and her dealings with Sub prime lending

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign manager, Maggie Williams, earned about $200,000 on the board of a Long Island subprime lender that charged prepayment penalties — a practice that Clinton, a critic of the subprime industry, now seeks to eliminate.
Williams, who took over the reins of Clinton’s campaign in early February, served as a director on the board of the Woodbury, N.Y.-based Delta Financial Corp. from April 2000 until the firm declared bankruptcy in December, according to Securities and Exchange Commission records

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Delores Rose-Kennedy in Tennessee — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:26:31 GMT

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JS — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:26:32 GMT

Don't be so quick to assume that Penn is no longer chief strategist - with the Clintons, every statement must be read with a parsing eye...

We know Penn has lost his title as strategist, but that his firm is still retained to do the same job they've been doing, other than having Penn out front talking about it.

We know Wolfson and Gerin will *coordinate the message from here on out, but that doesn't mean they will be the ones forming the message - just that they will be the ones 'on camera' explaining it.

It's entirely possible (and I say probable) that Penn is doing the same job, only off camera. The story was manufactured to distract the MSM from focusing on any number of more serious developments over the weekend that cut against the Clinton candidacy - this would be the least negative story for them.

It's positively Rovian.

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Hillary all the way — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:29:20 GMT

I am a Hillary supporter and am offended by all the people either to lazy to factcheck.org and all those trying to get Obama into a position he doesnt deserve and will destroy the party for his own ego.The media has given him a pass and tried to get him elected from day 1. Hillary just quiety overcomes and will again. I am offended because people say they have to give Obama the nom cause blacks will be upset. Hello??Whites and women will be upset and it doesnt seem to matter. Well steal the election for nom, give it to Obama and see how much you lose by in Nov.She gives important speeches gets maybe a mention. when ever Obama coughs all stations close down to listen. Its ok we will overcome anyway.

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Mike Ventura CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:35:17 GMT

The American people realize that because a person's Pastor says something doesn't mean he agrees with it. My Pastor is a die-hard Republican but that doesn't make me one.
The fact that Hillary herself makes these "misstatements" (i.e. Bosnia) is what people see.
That isn't MSNBC's fault- it's hers!

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SjP, Chicago, IL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:36:59 GMT

Regarding HRC's latest "Gaffs". The slogan for the HRC campaign should change to "you ain't trying if you ain't cheating". More fodder that affirms that the Clintons will do or say anything to win at all costs.

Here is a very simple point about camparing both the Dem candidates- Look how the two campaigns are being run. One has been groundbreaking and inspired its followers. The other is full of scandal, lies and constant in fighting and low blow, back door politics. You want the ladder group running the country? There's how to answer your "experienced" question..

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Joseph S Mihalko, Whippany, NJ — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:38:24 GMT

When will the public get to know the real reasons for Billary's run for the presidency. They are a couple of pretentious bums in it for the fame and fortune with little regard for the American people. Wake up and smell the stench. If it looks like poo and smells like poo, you don't have to eat it to make sure. Go John McCain a real American.

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bobbi, eau claire wi — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:45:15 GMT

obama will lose if he gets the nom. he has surrounded himself with "professional victims of racisim" his relationship with wright makes him un-electable by blue-collar, middle-america. we're sick of feeling sorry for harvard grads married to princeton grads. we won't be made to feel guilty anymore for sins of our ancestors. we will vote mcain b-4 obama!

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Hollow liar ?az — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:45:40 GMT

HRC, reflects what America doesn't want as the next President. A liar who conjures up anything to make herself look like a hero, yet the truth being ""when your hollow YOUR JUST HOLLOW!

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MK,MO — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:50:28 GMT

maybe someone should point out to mccain the surge is failing, the religious factions in iraq will be fighting until the end of days, just like they always have, they think that is their purpose in life, I suppose it is. we should come home and let them fight in peace

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CMAC Los Angeles, CA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:58:10 GMT

You all realize that Penn deliberately did the Columbia trip to get off this campaign right? He was fired before the end, so if this wreck hits a brick wall on May 6th (most likely) he can claim he wasn't a part of it. Even her own pollster knows. The only sad part is he and his company are departing with about 20 million in campaign contributions to the Clintons. Never get in bed with a pollster Hillary.

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Law Student72, Tucson, Arizona — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:00:23 GMT

Senator Clinton has done a great service to this country: She made it a mainstream idea that women can be viable candidates for the Presidency. From now on, it will no longer be unusual to see a woman candidate for the office. Senator Clinton deserves our thanks for that.

However, by staying in this race, Senator Clinton is now doing a great disservice to future women Presidential candidates and women in general. The longer she stays in, the harder it will be for another woman to run in the next election because people are starting to get a sour taste in their mouth about Senator Clinton.

One last observation:

For those of you supporting Senator Clinton who threaten to jump ship and vote for McCain should she lose the nomination, stop placing your loyalty to your candidate ahead of your loyalty to this nation.

Senator McCain is nothing if not a guaranteed four more years of the Bush Administration and we all know what a disaster Bush & Co. have been for America. The economy is in the tank. People are losing their jobs, their homes, and their middle class status. Our reputation in the international community is sullied and will remain so for a generation or more. We are losing one war that should have been fought (Afghanistan) and another that shouldn't (Iraq) and are being threatened with the prospect of fighting another (Iran). Our veterans have been abused and ignored, and our troops have been bullied and asked to sacrifice more than they ever should have.

If you vote for that, over what the Democratic candidate represents, then you are not a good American. What you are is a narrow-minded, self-interested reactionary.

I spent six years in service to this country and then went to law school to protect your right to decide. But when I see the poor decision-making skills of some of the Clinton supporters here, I have to ask myself why?

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Maggie from PA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:02:32 GMT

Everone hates Hillary.No one seems to realize that all the politicians lie! No one seems to mind that
everyday in PA we have to listen to Obama's claim that he doesn't take money from the Lobbist's but he doesn't mind taking $36,000 from Exxon executives. He
takes money from a lot of Oil Executives. Grow up people all the Politican's lie!
politicians Lie!

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Lorraine in NJ — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:04:43 GMT

Hillary keeps lying becuse people still support her in doiung so.It's that simple.

She won in the past by lying, and hopes to continue to win in the future.

Hopefully, the voters will finally send a message that they no longer wish to be manipulated by her; until then expect nothing to change as she will continue to believe she is giving her supporters what they want...a total and complete fabrication of her experience, her postion on issues and her beliefs.

How sad that so many believe they expect no better.

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Cowboy Jack — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:09:05 GMT

As an undecided voter, I'm concerned that the press isn't talking about Obama's flaws enough for us to get comfortable w/ them, and Karl Rove and the Republicans will expose them weeks before a tight November race to put McCain over the top

We already know Hillary's negatives

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RuthieM — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:11:40 GMT

Good riddance, now Clinton should be next! Step down!!!!

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JOHN COPELAND — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:14:04 GMT

OBAMA: BIG ON TALK, BUT HASN'T WALKED THE WALK.
OBAMA SENATE TRACK RECORD: PLAYED BOTH SIDES TO PLAY IT SAVE. GO AHEAD & CHECK IT OUT!
OBAMA:NO MILITARY SERVICE FOR HIS COUNTRY.
OBAMA PLATFORM OF HOPE & CHANGE: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE HOUSE & SENATE ARE GOING TO ROLL OVER FOR CHANGE BECAUSE SOMEONE WITH THE NAME OBAMA IS CALLING FOR CHANGE?
OBAMA HALO:SO FAR,MOSTLY A FREE RIDE TO THE TOP BY MOST MAJOR MEDIA. THE SHEEN COMES OFF WITH SCRUTNY & OBAMA TURNS OUT TO BE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER POLITICIAN.
OBAMA: APPLICANT FOR THE NO. 1 JOB IN THE WORLD WITH A RESUME THAT JUST DOSEN'T MEET QUALIFICATION.

HAVING LISTENED TO OBAMAS OLD SENATE STUMP SPEECHES, I WAS EXITED, THAT ONCE IN SENATE, HE WOULD MAKE SOME WAVES IN WASHINGTON FOR CHANGE, BUT OBAMA INSTEAD ELECTED TO VOTE ALONG HIS COLLEAGUES, OR PLAYED IT SAVE.
ALSO, I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH FOLKS TRYING TO PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS MLK II. OBAMA NEVER ENDURED GREAT SACRIFICE, PAIN, INDIGNATION & LOSS OFF FREEDOM UNLIKE MLK HAD. I WAS THERE! MOST OF YOU GUYS WEREN'T!!!
FOR THESE & MANY MORE REASONS I & THE DEMS THAT I KNOW
WILL BOYCOTT B. OBAMA IN NOVEMBER & YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONFIRM JUST THAT.
JOHN, RET.DISABLED ARMY VET

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JP Milton, Boston, MA — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:15:32 GMT

What does it tell us about the moral convictions of a candidate whose chief strategists are pollsters and PR flaks? Then again, if you are fundamentally amoral, why not have pollsters and PR types run your campaign for you.

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Ben Pacheco — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:49:33 GMT

For all you obamabots bashing a potential Clinton presidency-Don't be so cocky and sure Barack will be such a great president. While Hillary was Bill's most trusted advisor, Barry had only recently become Barack.

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Lorraine Dolan,Norwood,Ma. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:55:17 GMT

Instead of showing hatred for Hilary lets discuss Sen. Obamas friendship with a man named William Ayers who in the 1970's ran with the underground and bombed our Pentago and in 2001 Ayers stated he wished he did more.Another friend like his Pastor Wright. He claims only a friend because they live near each other and children attend the same schools. In the past he had taken $250.00 campaign money. All the stations that cannot find any wrong with Obama doesn't let you know this but FoxTV wasn;t afraid to tell the story. Wake Up and vote for Hillary.

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V. Walker, Birmingham, AL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:58:18 GMT

My 8 year old daughter and myself were discussing who I wanted to vote for and why the other day; she asked me if Hillary got the nomination would I vote for her even though I really support Barak. I told her (and mean it) that if Hillary got the Demo nomination, I would vote for McCain. She was surprised that I wouldn't choose a woman over McCain and asked me why. My answer is (and was) that at least I can trust that John McCain has some integrity and has shown strength of character under some very trying times as a prisoner of war...can you imagine Hillary EVER having that much loyalty to anything or anyone, let alone an abstract ideal such as duty or love of country?

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Pepper Oklahoma — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:00:18 GMT

I am sick of hearing the name Obama. He should end his run for office because he believes what his preacher says or he would not be a member of a church that preaches hate for 20 years. When he used his grandmother (who was suppose to have raised him) in his speech to sooth all the talk about his pastor was the last straw for me. If he loved her so much, why would he use her like that? He lies to suit his postion and never gets called on it. What's the deal ? The same thing happened with Bush. The media got him elected and look what we have. Do we want an other Bush in the White House? Why can't the media be fair?

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Tryme — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:06:23 GMT

Dont matter one bit. Clinton can make him resign - whatever that means - but she is stil a scam of the earth!!! Since when does been fired, resigning, and quitinbg allow you to still be on payroll and be involved in the same position you resigned, or got ousted from?

The Clintons are just so full of it.

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Tom Kennedy — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:08:50 GMT

OK PENNsylvanians,
How much doublespeak from the Clinton campaign are you willing to swallow??? Hillary's chief strategist Penn taking money to send more of your manufacturing jobs south. It is about tricking you to vote against your own interests.

There is a remarkable divide between Obama's truthful rhetoric and that of the Clinton and McCain campaigns.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that both Clinton and McCain are currently saying anything to get elected, and changing their messages to pander to whomever they are speaking to at the moment.

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Andee, Greybull, WY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:19:22 GMT

Amy of Illinois:

Do you really want a liar in the White House? Gee, her small lies eventually add up to big lies and that could put the world, including you, your loved ones and friends in a world of hurt.

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Andee, Greybull, WY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:20:11 GMT

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Andee, Greybull, WY — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:21:00 GMT

Billary also lied about where Chelsea was on the day of 9/11; it was a made up and fabricated story and was disputed by her own daughter.

Can this nation really trust a liar of such small details and circumstacnes to run this big nation? I don't think so..a lie always catches up with you and boy could this nation be Gone With the Wind because of the windies this ???? tells...I cannot call her a lady and she is an insult to the female gender..

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somebody somewhere — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:24:22 GMT

I Have learnt one thing aboute the clinton administration is that it lies and cheats just to win.No White House for **** clintons

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Jack — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:25:02 GMT

Campell has withdraw her endrosement for Obama!!!

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Dean, Waterbury, CT 06704 — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:37:30 GMT

Dear Just Wondering: The Hospital story was NOT a lie. The Hillary statements about Tuzla (which was under constant enemy fire---the enemy that President Clinton VANQUISHED with minimum casualy loss) have been blown out of all proportion. Bill Clinton was this country's greatest President despite the antipathy of the news media which despised him from day one. Big media went after Gore and now they dissect every SYLLABLE that comes out of Hillary's mouth while they fawn and kiss up to this Obama nobody from the state senate of Illinois. The New York Times is a hotbed of Clinton-hating whether it's Frank Rich or that Flora The Red Menace Maureen Dowd. Then there's Lee Cowan, Cafferty on CNN, Chris "The thrill up my leg" Matthews, etc.

If not Hillary then McCain, NO OBAMA

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R.M B:ham AL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:39:15 GMT

In the North Dakota primary I expect Hilary to claim she hunted buffalo with the Sioux.

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Mary Ann = Port Charlotte, FL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:43:22 GMT

Dean, Waterbury, CT

It seems that you Clinton Supporters have your facts
all wrong. The problem is, Hillary is losing and
you people will not admit it. It is all about
JEALOUSY!!! Can't you see through the Clintons??
They cheat and lie too much. Sorry.