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Bored — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:30:54 GMT

She picked up a couple--Yawn--

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Susan, CA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:32:43 GMT

Obama could have written off Pennsylvania in the expectations, but the truth is that he doesn’t have the delegates to win the nomination, and he won’t unless he picks up a sizable chunk in that delegate-rich state.

If he were way ahead, he could just say, that’s Hillary-country, let her have it, I don’t need it. But he DOES need it, because he isn’t that far ahead, because this is still a contest where the conclusion is far from certain.

Go Dems, Go Hillary.

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:34:32 GMT

Well praise Jesus, finally a balanced report from MSNBC, plus I saw a few articles on OBama that were not fawning over him as of late.
Great job blog reporters. As long as it's fair & baalanced, MSNBC ROCKS!!

Ready for the HIllary bashers in 5...4.3...2....

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Rob in NV — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:35:05 GMT

It ain't over 'til it's over. If Obama cannot win PA, yet another major industrial state of the Democratic coalition that he CANNOT WIN, then perhaps it is HE who should step aside.

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Jane, Philly PA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:35:45 GMT

Why are these SD women supporting her? Can't they see she is bringing down women in whole?

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the Pajama Pundit — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:36:56 GMT

Oh how the SuperDelegate story tires me.

Honestly, if the election is 'overturned' by SuperDelegates, we may be witness to a revolt in the Democratic party.

No matter how it is spun, it won't be pretty.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

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Rochester, NY — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:35 GMT

Wow! MSNBC actually reported something good for Hillary. Shocking. I just wonder if I hadn't written them and asked why Hillary getting a super delegate vote was snuck in the middle of the first thoughts post and why Obama's had a headline, would they have mentioned it? I guess they didn't realize that people noticed the obvious bias.

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Brendan D, Niles, IL — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:39:43 GMT

...and now the Hillophiles will have their song-and-dance routine about how she's still in this thing.

Look, the fact that Senator Clinton, working with President Clinton's Rolodex as well as her own contacts from eight years in the Senate -- and that she had the standing as the front-runner from the get-go -- means that if an upstart like Obama can even keep pace with her, he's out-organized her, out-managed her, and out-campaigned her. Now, to beat the champ, he'll need to knock her out; but frankly, her campaign has been so poorly done from top to bottom that I'm not really comfortable with her running as the Democratic nominee anymore, and neither should other Democrats be. I don't think she'll beat John McCain.

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CitizenJ — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:40:11 GMT

At this rate, maybe she'll catch up in time for the 2012 election.

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donna, pgh., pa. — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:40:23 GMT

First Read,

The former Pittsburgh Mayor's name is 'Sophie' Masloff. It may be of interest to your readers to know that she is quite elderly. We have had three mayors since she retired from Pgh. politics.

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Andy in Brookyn — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:41:33 GMT

AP is reporting that Obama just picked up two more supers today -- two former governors from Oregon.

http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/base/elections-0/1207839848150850.xml&storylist=orlocal

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Eileen Hamilton, Portland, ME — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:41:44 GMT

I don't blame them for endorsing her. After the public character assassination that Governor Bill Richardson had to endure (and I don't even want to think about the private intimidation tactics he was put through), the supers would have to be almost masochistic to go against the Clintons.

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Sick of corruption, sick of the Clintons — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:42:47 GMT

Hillary still has a chance. Yea! She may yet get back into the White House to pardon some more convicted criminals for campaign donations, and steal some more furniture.

Why am I supposed to want that again?

Obama in 2008. Integrity matters and the Clintons have none.

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Carolyn, Conyers Ga — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:43:16 GMT

OBAMA will take PA.

GO OBAMA 08

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Tee,Va — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:43:24 GMT

WHat ever happened to the 5 additional delegates Obama won over the weekend????? its been noted before but notput in his column....

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Steve Reeves — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:44:02 GMT

Is that because of her Bosnia adventure or her conflict with Bill over Columbia?

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ME, CA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:44:41 GMT

Congrats to Hillary. I disagree completely with Jackie Spier on this one but more power to her.

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Lyn — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:16 GMT

Susan? Obama doesn't just let states go as 'unimportant', as your candidate has...

Did you see today's unfavorable ratings? Unlike her plea to Richardson that 'HE CAN'T WIN'... SHE can't win...

Sniper Fire, Bill, NAFTA, CAFTA, Penn and the lack of organizational skills.. Look how she's managed the money her campaign has raised... And she's not paying her bills? That's not someone we need in charge...

Obama 08

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Mervin Hanley Columbus Ohio — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:51 GMT

Please check out Ohio..A super delegate just announced his support..Investigate that one

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Jamil, Dearborn, MI — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:46:12 GMT

Tom Lantos had endorsed Hillary before he died so getting the endorsement of the new Rep doesn't really mean much - just switching the name of the SD w/out changing anything. It will take alot more SDs for her to even come close to Obama.

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Brother Odd — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:03 GMT

Its far from over. The media just wants us to think its over, because they favor Obama. Hillary will hang in, shes not a quitter. She will be much better for this country than McWar or Obamafraud.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:07 GMT

It ain't over 'til it's over. If Obama cannot win PA, yet another major industrial state of the Democratic coalition that he CANNOT WIN, then perhaps it is HE who should step aside.
Rob in NV (Sent Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:35 PM)

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Go check Slate Magazine's delegate calculator (they use NBC's numbers as a reference). If all voting trends hold true it's not enough for Senator Clinton to just win in Pennsylvania...she has to crush him by 28 points in EVERY contest remaining.

It could happen but it's going to require that

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sweeetback, london, uk — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:16 GMT

super delegates have a right to choose who they want. they also ahve a reponsibility to the the public to coose responsibly and intimidation by any candidate is bad news for democracy

www.mpfree.org.uk

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Andress — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:38 GMT

Here's the thing.

I just have to aske this question.

It's been bothering me, and a lot of my liberal friends.

Why and How can you demote and defame a wonderful person like Penn. when he actually did less than you supportive, faithful husband?

Isn't that--a double standard?

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More Truth--It might Hurt — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:43 GMT

Rochester and others,

What's the big surprise? There's a reason MSNBC reports what it does. It's called news. The problem for Senator Clinton is that she hasn't had anything good to report the past month. Her campaign has been in meltdown and she's been lying about her resume. Do you want MSNBC and others to just make stuff up so that they'll be "balanced"? Hilarious. "Balanced" reporting is not coming out with exactly the same number of positive articles, especially when one candidacy is in near implosion. I'm sure that hurts but it's the truth.

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:48:13 GMT

Gee, OBamabots still got something to moan about. Her super delegates are elderly, they are afraid of her, they are near death, they are crazy...lol
What a bunch of whiny nit pickers. Just like their candidate. Aren't we all still in the same party. Don't we support each others candidates in the same party when good things happen for them? Guess not with the Dems.

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Aura Edge, Port St Lucie, Florida — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:48:33 GMT

Finally, some friendly reporting for Hillary. I am so tired of your bias against her. Although; I am sure next you will say she arm-twisted them and proposed some shady deal to get them!

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James Memphis, TN — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:48:38 GMT

To Rob in NV------------- Nice try Hillarybots us Obomacans not falling for Old the "Hes gotta win PA or he does not stand a chance".. There is no way under the sun Hillary is going to catch Obama in

1. Pop vote
2. Plegde Delegates
3. # States won

Obama has picked up 55 superdelegates since Super Tues. And HRC has picked up 3. as a matter of fact she is still has a -2 count. Any little glimmer of hope for Hillarybots has long been over since Miss. But keep giving her your money son she can pay herself back the 5 mill you all owe her. Pathetic..

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MI Chick — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:48:55 GMT

Rochester, NY (Sent Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:37 PM)

Think alot of yourself, do you? Yeah, you and you alone caused the horribly "biased" MSNBC to make Hillary a headline.

{yawn} {eye roll}

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Kay, Denver, Co — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:49:28 GMT

Good reporting! Do the "Obama Cult Members" have a job? Or is spewing hatred, filth and racism their job?

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Reggie — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:49:53 GMT

Andy, Barbara Roberts and John Kitzhaber of Oregon aren't supers. They have however, endorsed Barack Obama. No mathmetical significance, unfortunately.

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End Game — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:50:10 GMT

Congrats to Hillary & her team.

Obama '08.

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Diane from Illinois — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:50:14 GMT

I'll give you three and raise you three:

Two former Oregon govenors, Barbara Roberts and John Kitzhaber gave their endorsements to the Illinois senator on Thursday, just before the Democratic Party of Oregon holds its platform convention this weekend.

I think that makes Obama and Clinton even for endoresemtns today. Go Obama '08!

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Sam, Muncie, Ind. — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:52:32 GMT

Wow, can't believe these folks would jump onto a sinking ship.

Those of you crying about MSNBC's coverage: I know you're just taking the stance of your candidate, who does no wrong and is always shafted (I'm sure MSNBC whispered the sniper story to her in her sleep-deprived moment), but at some point you're going to have to cast aside your puerile whining and accept that Obama has, through the unbelievably successful campaign he's ran against the Goliath of the Democratic Party, shown he's far more qualified to lead and bring together people from all walks. If Clinton can't bring home what was a sure-fire nomination and win her own party without trying to define the rules of victory herself, how on earth do you expect her to win in November?!

I know it hurts, but you have to let reality set in. We will be ready to greet you with open arms when you're ready!

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Mary, California — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:56:26 GMT

Clinton did not pick up Speier. Speier had previously endorsed her but she qas quoted by the San Mateo County Times a few days ago that she will make her decision whom to vote for after the primaries aer over. Put her down as uncommitted.

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PA. voter — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:57:19 GMT

Hilary is being given a breath, as she is being water boarded.

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Scott — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:58:16 GMT

James in TN and others,
One FYI on the "popular vote" argument. This new item hasn't been getting a lot of play yet. However, University of Pennsylvania Wharton professor Greg Nini just release a study that looked at the number of popular votes that Obama would have received had the total number of individuals been counted in the 5 or 6 caucus states that don't record numbers of individuals (they only record delegates). Iowa is a great example. His conclusion was that Obama's popular vote lead would be 1.3 million now, rather than 700,000. This is something that should be highlighted much more prominently. Caucuses disadvantage Obama if we're looking at the popular vote.

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Cheryl, NJ — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:58:24 GMT

First Read has finally reported good news for Hillary because finally Hillary has some good news to report.

To all of you still sipping the Hillary koolaid, continue to spin yourselves to your heart's content. When you recover from your dizziness, Obama will still be ahead in delegates, states won, number of votes.

Obama's run a 50-state strategy (which includes PA, Susan, CA) that has proven to be superior.

As an Obama supporter I understand that all you Hillary supporters here are in different stages of grief and like an indulgent mother, will just wait you out as you kick, scream and cry.

Obama 08

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Bernadette — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:58:44 GMT

After everything we know about the sleezy Clintons... and Hillary's lies... it truly amazes me that any politician would support her now.

I would like to take a look at each Super and see exactly how much money HRC gave them or how much money she raised for their elections.

This cannot be free will. It has to be "pay back."

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Bernadette — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:59:03 GMT

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scj, CA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:01:37 GMT

Confused:
Jackie Speier said on April 5th on Inside Bay Area (where I reside) that she will, though she has endorsed, keep options open until after all the primaries have concluded. Is her endorsement on a solid foundation?
Also, why no news on the Oregon endorsements? Do they not count?

Please explain, First Read. I'd really like some clarity. Thanks!

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Democrat — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:02:30 GMT

It seems that every time there is something negative about Hillary Clinton in the media it is called media bias and every time there is something that is remotely detrimental about Barack Obama it is "about time" with the Hillary clan.

I'm dizzy from the spinning.

Whenever there was something with verifiable meat about both candidates the media pounced. Preachers, crooked fundraisers, top staff dealings with foreign countries and more were all top stories. The media wants news that interests people and will grab at everything.

The problem is not that there is media bias toward Barack Obama, it is that there is more to report about Hillary Clinton. Doesn't anyone else remember how many gaffes happened during President Bill Clinton's presidency? If it is newsworthy the news media will pounce. If it is not, they won't. This is why it is being reported that Senator Clinton gained three superdelegates today. Unfortunately for Hillary Clinton, it is one of few opportunities for the media to say something newsworthy that is positive about her.

Instead of blaming the referees for how your team is losing take a look at how badly your team is playing. Can you honestly say that your team has been playing fairly? Can you honestly say that your team is competing at the same level as the opposition? Was your team assumed to be the best but instead is being outplayed? How often has your team resorted to underhanded tactics versus the other team? As in sports, the referees will lean toward the team they perceive as playing by the rules and penalize outplayed teams that are skirting the rules.

If Hillary had not gone negative as soon as she thought the game was being threatened she would have received better press. No bias, just poorly played and deserving of greater scrutiny as a result.

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David Greencastle, PA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:06:01 GMT

The american people better hope Sen. Clinton gets this nomination. There's no way that B. Hussein Obama will win. Just wait till the GOP gets started with their attacks on him. Sen. Clinton has already been through their scrutiny, and is still on the move.
We've really hosed this up if we lose this election. There are entirely too many important issues to be dealt with and resolved.
This entire election process needs to be revised. We should have one National Primary Election Day. This would eliminate the obscene levels of money that are being spent, allow us all to vote for any one of the initial candidates in the race, eliminate a lot of the hyped up and fictitious news media coverage, and may preclude the disenfranchising of our citizens votes. Who know maybe your state will be next.
The process should also be made the same for each state, not a caucus in some, a mix of caucus and popular vote in the next, and popular vote that in some cases winner takes all, and in the next it is split.
Let's get this on a level playing field. We are in the spotlight of the world, and supposedly the model for example to others.

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David Greencastle, PA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:07:49 GMT

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Fact check b4 u post — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:08:55 GMT

Well all you Hillary supporters sitting in your high horses, reality check shes still down 2 delegates. she lost 5 and only gained actually 2 because one was a name change only. That one super took over for one that died and already supported her. So those are the facts like them or not.You cant argue with facts.So go ahead throw your party for the first time in the last month or so. I wont bother you with anymore facts for now. They just get in the way of your round about logic anyways.

Obama '08

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Fact check b4 u post — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:09:03 GMT

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Fact check b4 u post — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:09:45 GMT

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Evelyn New Jersey — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:09:53 GMT

Super delegates for Hillary, is Chris Mathhews crying yet?
i aslo noticed that Chris Matthews was so eager to jump all over the story of the lady who died with her baby when he thought it was untrue. No report though when the Washington Post validated it's truthfulness. Wake up Chris.

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Douglas Vickers Rehoboth Beach de — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:20 GMT

I think that not only did the two govenors endorese but over the weekend at leat three did all of them or most were add ons at least two came from the dc ,so some one needs to really update your count

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Bonnie — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:26 GMT

Certain people keep asking us bloggers if we are unemployed loosers, need to get a life, etc. Just to let you know, I'm retired and do enjoy reading everyone's interesting blogs and posting my own. It excercises my mind. Blogging.. better than kniting.
Older white woman for Obama.

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Deborah in Texas — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:11:18 GMT

I am so happy to hear that the Superdelegates are measuring experience and knowledge over hope and dreams. We all have hope and dreams, but only a few have the experience to become Commander in Chief and that's Hillary. Thank you Super's for being wise.

For women putting down Hillary - you think about your thoughts in the next 4 years, "if" Hillary doesn't get elected, when you're still just "another woman" and get no respect, o.k. Remember that you contributed to your own downfall (period!!!!)...

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HP Boston — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:12:47 GMT

Poor Obama even with his big ears he is never going to hear the swiftboats a coming. There will be dancing that night!

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Rob in NV — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:14:30 GMT

I agree with Pajama Pundit. The superdelegates should not overturn the election. Clinton has won every major "blue state" except Illinois, and with PA will have won enough states to win the electoral college. The superdelegates should recognize this and not overturn the election. Clinton should be the nominee.

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Mary, California — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:15:02 GMT

San Mateo County Times on April 5, 2008 quote: "Even more surprising, Speier said that despite her endorsement of Clinton, she would decide whom to vote for after the primary, leaving open the possibility that she'd go for Obama. She declined to say which candidate would get her vote, but her silence itself was revealing."

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Rob in NV — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:16:35 GMT

James Memphis... if Obama cannot win the major states of the Democratic coalition, tell me how he wins a general election when he sure can't carry the red states he won in the primaries. He's going to carry South Carolina in the general? Wyoming? Idaho? They're as red as red gets, and he can't win them. The electoral college map is stacked against him. Face the reality of it, he can't win.

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Doug Englewood, Ohio — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:18:43 GMT

The people who are biased to Hillary complain about things that are biased to Obama this is funny Hillary people regularly come on the Hannity show and talk down Obama, what a bunch of cowards, at the end of the day we are all democratic family and as both canidates said they will be united when this is over, why cant we be mature enough for that? You wouldn't go to your enemies house to bad mouth your brother well thats what we are all doing everytime we get on fox to bad mouth a fellow democrat and fox is eating it up. If Clinton was the front runner fox would be trashing her. And to all the Clinton supporters wahts with the gender card lately thats all we hear comming from the Hillary camp, if we dont vote for her we are sexist but if Obama says you don't support him because of race Clinton supporters take offense, lets stop with the race and gender cards none of these millionares have been subject to sexism or racism in any real way.

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Geoff in brooklyn — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:19:08 GMT

BUT are the Oregon former governors superdelegates?? I see no evidence that they are.

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Bob Lucas, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:23:05 GMT

I am so tired of hearing from Hillary supporters that if Obama cannot beat her in a primary in the large states, then he would not win them over McSame in the general. Of course he would.

Those of us Democrats who live in traditional Blue states like Pennsylvania, California, Massachusetts and New York are going to elect the Democrat. When Hillary finally, mercifully, concedes, and Obama becomes the nominee, we traditional Blue staters will support him. The fact that Hillary squeaked out a few narrow wins in those states in the primaries will not alter that result.

What IS revealing from the primaries is Obama's ability to do FAR better than Hillary in more traditional Red states like Virginia and Colorado. Hillary would get crushed by McBush in those states in the general, just like she did by Obama in the primaries. However, unlike Hillary, Obama actually has a prayer in those states to beat McOld in the general.

So wake up Hillary supporters. The primary results to date (as well as the reputable national polls) prove that Obama is the Dem with the best chance to end 8 years of Republican tyranny.

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Obama Supporter from NY — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:33:46 GMT

FOR DEBORAH IN TEXAS:

Please don't be condescending to me and many other women. The idea that women should vote for Hillary Clinton simply and only because she is a woman is grotesque and insulting.

How dare you imply that we are somehow disloyal to our gender if we dare to use our brains and our judgment to make an informed decision?

You should be ashamed of yourself -- And just for the record --- every woman I know - from my 85 yr old mother (who would dearly love to see a woman in the WH) to my daughters and nieces who range in age from 17 - 24, my cousin and her 3 daughters and my friends and their daughters are all Obama supporters -- and very proud of it!!!!

Hillary is not the right person for President -- woman of not!!

Obama '08

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Honestly — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:37:14 GMT

What I find sad is these so-called strong women who whine relentlessly that Clinton is not being treated fairly by the press. Her history makes her a target not her gender. Clinton has rallies specifically for women & constantly talks about putting a woman in the oval office, as that's as important as healthcare or Iraq. Imagine the backlash is Obama did the same with race? If she uses the same old politics of her husband, how will she be any different than a man?Just like Katie Couric, the right person for the job may be a woman, but not THAT woman. She lied repeatedly to manipulate the public. At a time when we need to trust our president again, I find all these gender accusations selfserving. A strong leader knows who she is, but Clinton seems to be acting. I'm not saying she could not do the job, but she lacks leadership qualities. Raising your had first in class doesn't make you a leader. Inspiring others to follow you does. And that is what we will need more than anything for the forseeable future.

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Demarcus Jackson, Columbia, Tennessee — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:37:23 GMT

I'm getting sick and tired of Clinton supporters crying over how MSNBC's coverage of Clinton is so unfair, of course until they present a story in her favor. It is very childish! Bunch of babies. I will take MSNBC's new coverage over that of CNN or FOX Noise any day, any time of the week. MSNBC IS TRULY THE BEST!!!!

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Thomas, Mobile, AL — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:38:42 GMT

You people need to do your research, the two FORMER governors of Oregon are NOT SUPERS. Just former governors throwing their support to Obama. The CURRENT Governor is supporting Hillary. Get your facts straight.

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:39:33 GMT

Geoff in Brooklyn. No, the Oregon Govs are not superdelegates