Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Gary, Toronto, ON — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:15:14 GMT

You know, watching this from up North, this looks like the same sort of ridiculous "parsing" of comments that had people look at the race speech and say "He threw his grandmother under the bus!". Obama is attempting to speak to realities of American society in a way his competitors are unwilling or unable to and he's going to stumble but unless those people in small town America want to be ignored for another eight years they might want to cut him some slack.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

heartlander — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:16:40 GMT

How many times do we have to say it? It wasn't the "bitter" characterization that was a stupid mistake, it was the suggestion that frustration and bitterness about economic conditions caused the people in these economically depressed areas to cling to guns, religion, and so forth. Obama needs to apologize for characterizing (stereotyping) people in this way. Or else he needs to say this kind of stuff in one of his public speeches instead of in a "no-press allowed" meeting with San Francisco donors. if this is what he thinks, we all need to hear him say it.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

MM — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:18:33 GMT

Let's not forget everything he said is true. If you work in a small town and your only source of income is the steel mill that just move somewhere to Mexico because it's cheaper. 2 presidency claim the jobs will come back and they don't. Or a job was taken by someone who would work for less because there illegal. Of Course your gonna a be bitter or angry. What he was getting at was that these people are cynical of politicians and what they can do? You'll say there not going to do anything for getting me a job, So I'll vote on another criteria.

It's ironic that Hillary make 100 times more money then Obama and some how he's elitist. Or John McCain is on of the richest Senators in Congress, and somehow Obama's elitist. Obama was in debt two years ago from guest what student loans, so he is probably more in touch then most candidates are.
Look at the spin you guys buy into. Read the comments for yourself before you make any conclusions and you'll find that he wasn't being condescending. There is even audio out there of him saying it. Do a little research and don't buy into the spin.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Ruth, Portland OR — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:18:47 GMT

This is such a tiresome "non troversy." What makes me mad (and bitter!) is how Clinton is literally using the Republican talking points ("liberal elitist"? WTF?) to attack Obama. He is shining the light on the wedge issue BS, she is resorting to it in the lowest way. I hope people see through this. Obama is speaking the truth.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

voter — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:19:02 GMT

I agree with Obama. Clinton and McCain and condensending. They expect people to be happy about their jobs being outsourced, the high price of gas, food etc. Clinton does understand the working class because Clinton and her husband has gotten rich from outsourcing our jobs. Clinton and McCain come the middle class neigborhoods, promise us everything and when they take office they do nothing. Point taken, Clinton did not create the 200,000 jobs she promised. I will rather have someone who understands my struggles than someone who has so call experience and has done nothing to colve my problems. I am ready for change.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Sue in La — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:21:12 GMT

boy you really have to watch every word you say in this campaign!! I know these people with the Hillary campaign are not that stupid. They just want to put up a smoke screen, because they are doing so badly. And remember it all depends on what the word "Is" is.

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Mary in AL — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:21:23 GMT

Senator Obama is correct in his observations. I despise Clinton and her rehtoric. He is not elitist nor is he out of touch. She is out of touch. Just like voting for the war. How can anyone forget her vote of support for a war that has led this nation into a recession? It is truly amazing. I will only vote Obama. Clinton makes me want to vomit. She divides the party. I will never vote for someone who falsely attacks others, and that is Clinton.

Obama is the only choice!

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

joshua, louisville, KY — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:21:51 GMT

who says americans are not angry about their situation? maybe mrs clinton and mr mccain are so inteersted in becoming president they don't pay attention to the plight of the people they meet. i for one am angry as hell, that my upper middle class salary can still not meet my basic needs. si someone listening?

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Robert, Colorado Springs Co — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:23:45 GMT

I wonder if the leaders are out of touch if they feel that a comment is more important then real issues. People are being blinded by the process of smear and blame. Let's wake up and demand real change. We are not kids on a playground calling names. Maybe we should line all the rich folks up in Washington and Vote for the one with the least cash....Silly08

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

Geoff in Brooklyn — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:25:43 GMT

NOTE THIS FROM HILLARY CLINTON in the 1999 NYTIMES (how will this play in rural america, and is she trying to have yet ANOTEHR issue both ways??):

"Stepping up the Clinton Administration's campaign against gun violence, Hillary Rodham Clinton used an emotional White House ceremony today to call on Americans to press Congress to ''buck the gun lobby'' and pass several gun control measures. "

Dueling Clinton, Obama conference calls

rita forte — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:27:10 GMT

Of course, voters are angry! Why else would "change" be such a popular theme? Because people are happy with the way things are?

Obama gets it, and voters who are self-reflective enough to understand their own motivation get that he gets it.

This Clinton/McCain "pollyannaism" is about as authentic as her Bosnian snipers or his Shi'ite Al Qaeda.