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Fed Up, PA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:42:25 GMT

That's great hopefully she can do that as Senate Majority Leader. Now go away.

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Kathy, Vista, CA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:43:37 GMT

Dream on Hillary. Florida and Michigan votes DO NOT COUNT!!! You said you would follow the rules until you fell behind in delegates. Hillay may not technically have campaigned in Florida but made very clear before the FL election that she would do all she could to get the votes counted. As far as MI goes I do not want votes in this country to be conducted the way a Sadam or Castro vote is conduted with only one candidate. Very un Democratic. No counting the votes for delegates or the popular vote. It was not a fair fight. If she really thought these states should count why didn't she say something in the fall of '07?

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Hussein — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:44:27 GMT

Seriously. Is this contest not fair because he's black. Is this the Ferraro in her? Hillary has stated often how proud she is to be a woman running for office. An advantage she has had to herself. Can you imagine Obama rallying support - "It is hard out here for a black man!" He has had this success despite being black!

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Democrat — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:44:30 GMT

Keep reaching, keep reaching. The forbidden fruit is on that branch that is sticking out over the cliff. That's right, a little closer to the edge....

Trying to add the popular vote from a state that nobody was allowed to campaign in? Isn't it clear that the longer your competition has to campaign, the narrower your lead gets? The advantage was entirely yours at a time when your opponent was still relatively unknown to most of the voters in Florida.

How about this: let's take your opponent off the ballot in the remaining contests. That's fair, right? It seems to be to you.

You are making another argument to a brick wall. Florida will be seated, but it will be 50-50 and the popular vote total will not count.

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king arthur — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:45:50 GMT

lies, lies, lies

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everywhere, usa — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:46:13 GMT

I can't wait for a woman of integrity to run for President someday. It will eventually shed some light on this sore loser.

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Tired of Being Tired — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:47:30 GMT

Isn't this what Barack was talking about. Another beer drankin' pol tossing back shots with the ol' boys. I mean seriously, talk about demeaning.

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Dave, NY, NY — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:47:52 GMT

Crying gender does not help the cause, it exacerbates it. Besides, there are more women than men and I'm sure any vote she doesn't get bc she's a woman is at least equalled (if not exceeded) by the votes she gets bc she's a woman. What new low will she stoop to now?

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Louis, Phoenix, Az. — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:48:43 GMT

HRC, would you be so quick to count florida had you lost? There can be no question that a significant number of voters were disenfranchised and did not turn out because they were told by their party the vote would not count. Now what is it HRC, are the voters important, just some states, or just the superdelegates. Do not claim the democratic crown by claiming all votes count, when you are clearly for trying to get pledged delegates to change their vote despite what the people have said.

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:48:51 GMT

And I think that you need to stop trying to play the victim, Sen. Clinton. Don't worry, FL and MI will be sat at the convention once Barack has won the nomination. Your life experiences have been debunked and you are really starting to look like a cartoon at this point. Since you've been duck hunting, where is your permit? If we thought that Snipergate was bad wait until Duckhuntgate rears its ugly head.

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salt lake city, utah — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:49:25 GMT

Obama has talked about that a long time ago. She is just delusional.

Always winning, playing the gender card, being negative.

McHillClinton will be out of Job fairly soon.

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Just my 2 cents! — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:51:15 GMT

no comment!

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BobW Mendon, NY — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:51:19 GMT

...and a chicken in every pot! Hillary will promise the moon to get elected but how can you trust her promises? After all, a promise from a liar is like counterfeit money. It looks real but isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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Jaime, Boynton Beach, FL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:51:20 GMT

Oh, I want to take the Commander-in-Chief test! Can I? Can I? Ah, crap...I forgot my #2.

<sigh>

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Billy S, SEattle, wa — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:51:33 GMT

I don't think it's a stretch to say it's certainly much more remarkable that people who 'cling' to anything will elect a black man as president of the United States. It is time we get to the point as a nation where somene will not compete to be in the worst light of discrimination, as HRC is obviously doing. It's time for all of us to come together as a party and defeat the 3rd Bush term.

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Doug, Kansas City, MO — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:52:27 GMT

It's actually true that sexism isn't being as played up as the racism angle is, but that's also true of the larger American society. You know what would be interesting? For Clinton to step up and throw down a speech about the nature of sexism in the modern era much like Obama did about race. That speech defined his candidacy. Who knows, perhaps she could do the same for herself if she wants to step up to the plate.

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Ron, TX — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:53:11 GMT

Over the course of two sentences, she both says that gender has gotten less attention, but that she wants to be judged by the sum of all her parts. Typical, two-faced reply... trying to play both the gender card at the same time as the "judge me for who I am" card.

Compare that to the last posting by First Read about Obama saying this isn't about race, it's about politics.

One politician appears ready to move on, ready to tackle the problems facing ALL of this nation, and the other is still flailing around in identity politics.

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OBwan, IN — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:53:57 GMT

"restore the right of habeas corpus."

Without habeas corpus there are no other rights.

There is that pesky popular vote again. Didn't you sign up for the most delegates initially?

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JohnnyU, WA State — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:54:41 GMT

Hillary said the candidates... "wished to be judged on the sum of our parts, and that is our life experience, our record in public service and so much else." And for HER, the "so much else" refers to all the stuff she's "made up" and gotten people to believe. The Bosnia story is just one.

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amy — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:55:08 GMT

Hillary is using Obama's owns words. If he doesn't like them then he shouldn't have said them. I think it is telling that Obama chose to say these things in front of people other than small town people. If it weren't something that he thought would be construed as negative why wouldn't he have confronted these things head on with the people he was charaterizing? If Hillary or one of her surrogates would have made the EXACT same remark about urban areas everyone would have been labeled him as a biggot, elitist, and this would have cost HIllary the nomination to be certain. The fact that Obama's supporters are so ADAMANT that he didn't actually mean what his words implied tells me that they are seeing what they want to see. It's definately NOT the bitter commment that made people mad. Yes, many people are mad, bitter, angry about what has happened to this country over the last 8 years. But to say that people CLING TO RELIGION AND GUNS IN SMALL TOWNS is rediculous. People in small towns cling to their family and their communities. Yes, some are religious but just as much so if not more in good times as in bad. His view of small town America is narrow and from an outsiders perspective because he's never had those kinds of ties to any community. He calls Chicago his "home town". PLEASE!!! He moved here to get elected and is no more a midwesterner than I am a Hawaiian native. Also, people on these posts are constantly saying what a liar Hillary is. I will admit that she's been caught in some embellishments just as Obama has been. The media of course doesn't cover his embellishments. Obama originally said he wasn't present at church when his preacher said any things that were controversial only to say later he knew his pastor was controversial. Obama said he would accept public financing if the Republican nominee accepted public financing and now is squirming out of that written committment. Obama said his father was brought to the U.S. because of a program developed by JFK which has been totally debunked. Obama said he was raised by a single mother struggling to make it. Obama's mother was only single for two years of Obama's life (that's hardly being raised by a single mother) and as for struggling I wouldn't call going to prep school in Hawaii (how many poor people do you know who live in Hawaii?) and then going to Harvard a hard knock life. I'm not discounting that I'm sure he had to work hard. Hillary has had to work hard also to get where she is and continues to work hard. Oh and Obama disses Hillary for having sat on the board of wal-mart for a time, something Michelle Obama did as well. Not to mention the fact that Michelle's salary was increased by more than 100% when her husband was elected as a U.S. Senator. OF course, the media doesn't discuss any of this now because they are happy to help Obama get the nominations only to take him down in the general against McCain. McCain has made some pretty big blunders. Hello!!! He said he doesn't know much about the economy (the number one issue to voters) and yet that didn't get a lot of media coverage (not like it would have if either of the democrats had openly admitted the same thing). They like McCain..........even better than Obama. They hate Hillary and the Clintons but the Clintons can and will make positive changes to this country and I do believe that Hillary would be a better President. With Clinton you know what you are getting but with Obama there are too many questions. Also, I'm pretty sure that First Read would at least mention a poll in which Obama was leading Hillary by 20 points but no mention that Hillary was 20 points ahead in a poll.

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Shel, SLC UT — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:56:13 GMT

*****SNIFFFFFF****

Is it??? Do I smell DESPERATION in the air??

So the gender thing hasn't panned out, eh? If she claims she was born a poor black child, I'm gonna lose it. I swear.

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typical white voter, FL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:56:52 GMT

What Obama claims he CAN do, she HAS done.

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counting crows, amherst ma — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:56:56 GMT

The votes may have been certified but what exactly does that mean? Not everyone who could have voted, did, because they were told their votes wouldn't count. How is this a fair election process? HC keeps changing the rules of the game...first she agrees, then she doesn't. Hard to keep up with her...

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sg, michigan — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:57:11 GMT

"Clinton repeated her assertion that the Florida vote should be counted..."

Didn't Hillary Clinton sign a statement where she agreed that Florida votes do not count in the Democratic primary?

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donna, pgh., pa. — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:57:44 GMT

Obama barrs the race card from the table today, but Hillary throws the gender card without any provocation or justification. When has McCain or Obama impugned her worthiness to be Commander In Chief because she is a woman?

She's whining. Polls are not going so well as she hoped after her last clawing at Obama. He is still just as handsome as ever.

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Pete, Seattle, WA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:58:13 GMT

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Joe - STL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:58:29 GMT

I can hear something coming down the road...wait...yes, it is!

It's the WAAAAAAAAAABULANCE!

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AC, Boston, MA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:58:48 GMT

Give me a break. I've never heard anyone talk out of both sides of their mouth before like HRC does. Can the voters of PA please say enough is enough and be done with this latest Clinton candidacy.

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patty — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:59:07 GMT

THIS IS NOT NEWS, folks. Give me something important.

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Really A. Democrat, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:59:43 GMT

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZE nominate her! I dare you!!!

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Roseid, Crestview, FL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:59:53 GMT

PPPlease, so Hillary backs away from attacking Obama with repug talking pts one time. Is she waiting for the debate to attack Obama? I think Hillary has a split personality or maybe she is really Rove in disguise.

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EJ, VA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:00:08 GMT

There is a reason it is getting less attention than race, the Obama campaign is not baiting her campaign with gender like the Clinton campaign is doing with race.

Could someone please tell her that the cotests in Michigan and Florida were not valid. She herself agreed to those rules and conveniently when it suits her interest to change the rules she whines and complains about it.

Do you think if she lost those campaigns she would be as vocal about getting those two to count. My answer... not a snowball's chance...

As for the commander in chief test... she cannot even manager her own campaign (that Super Tuesday Strategy worked oh so well for her), sher surrogates/advisors (Columbia ring a bell) or her family (Monica anyone). Why does she think that she would be a better commander in chief.

Finally, if she really cared about the country she would stop pulling Rove like tactics and undercutting her opponent. She is doing the GOP a favor. The only inevability is that she will not win...

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Michael Roland, North Hills, CA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:00:08 GMT

PLEASE...!

Would someone please just put her out of our misery?

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End Game — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:00:54 GMT

Just compare Clinton's response to Obama's response to a similar quetsion today on race. Clinton never takes a high road on a leading question but rather perpetuates the questioner's mindset.

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AverageJoe4Obama, Bethesda, MD — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:01:55 GMT

Senator Clinton has not passed the "Grasp on Reality" test, and therefore not qualified to take the "Commander in Chief" Test.

Grasp on Reality test

1) Being greeted by a young girl with a poem while flanked by your only daughter is...

a) A sure sign you are under sniper fire
b) Something that can't possibly be remembered correctly even after you are shown video of the event
c) A Classic "Photo Op" proving you've been intentionally lying (not "mispeaking" in a casual mistake)
d) Proof that you shouldn't be up at 3am.

Correct Answer: B, C, D

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CitizenJ — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:04:44 GMT

She's still in the race?

She should take a lesson from Huckabee.

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Terry, Great Plains — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:04:45 GMT

Typical Hillary "Janus" Clinton do not play by the rules then change the rules then disenfanchise the delegates from Florida but PLEASE count the popular vote so I can claim some victory to show super delegates I should reaaly be the nominee.

Is winning at all costs this imprtant to a multi millionire like you. Oh I forgot we owe you the crown I mean Presidency.

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john nebraska — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:05:09 GMT

ahhh i smell a word twisting female rat in politics this year. oppppssss sorry must be hillary
go OBAMA

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Sick of Watching Obama get way with LIE after LIE — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:05:09 GMT

She's right, and I'll tell you something else too.
Obama has gotten away with murder in this campaign, figuratively speaking, while Hillary has been treated like absolute $#!+.
The media never calls Obama out on his lies (i.e. "I never did any political favors for Tony Rezko.").
But it tears her apart for a mere exaggeration about her Bosnia trip. (She was brought into the bullett proof area of "AF-1" for its landing there, by the way. She and Wesley Clark were also told to keep bullet proof vests within arms reach, and Apache Helicopters followed their cravan at all times while they were in that country.)
The Democratic Party has also been very accomodating to Barack Obama. It has allowed him to use Republican rhetoric from the 1990's against the Clintons'. It has allowed him to make tacit accusations against Mrs Clinton for things she's never been accused of, (like, cheating on her taxes); and it has encouraged the full frontal and all out media attack that has been levied against her all throughout this campaign cycle.
On the other hand, The party has sheltered Obama from criticism about racist remarks made by his wife, his pastor, and members of his advisory staff. It's allowed the disenfranchisement of some two (2) million Democratic voters in Michigan and Florida on Obama's behalf, and it allowed the Obama campaign to hurl false accusations of racism against the Clinton's in South Carolina.
So, yes Mrs Clinton IS correct. It appears our society doesn't give a damn about the way it treats woman.
She really got a raw deal form you folks in the media, and everyone sees it.

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squintz, philly, pa — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:05:31 GMT

Can I ask, how offended are minorities when white women try to equate gender struggles with race struggles? As a white woman, obviously, I understand sexism. However, gender issues are hardly unique to America, this time period, or politics. I mean, for heaven's sake, animals have gender issues. The difference when it comes to race is that race is an arbitrary classification and people are treated poorly for arbitrary reasons. Gender on the other hand is a complicated issue even within a single individual and relates to biology and history and sexuality and a whole host of other complexities. To equate the two problems is foolish and undermines an examination of the true nature of each. It's like when Madonna used to talk about herself as a "minority" even though, um, women are the majority on the planet. They just aren't the same, not that sexism doesn't warrant more discussion, but the simple correlation of sexism and racism is really stupid. It also sounds like "me-tooing" which isn't an attractive quality.

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JDOE — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:05:46 GMT

Is she just insane? How can anyone in their right mind think that teh Fla vote was representative of a real election? And, even if the votes counted, it doesn't give her enough to capture even teh popular vote - and who cares about teh national popular vote - it is 50 separate state elections that matter.

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christian — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:06:44 GMT

oh god.. please make her go away now

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Steve in Naples, FL — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:07:37 GMT

It's just revolting to think that the Clinton campaign clings to the notion that the Floirda vote was legitimate.

As has been the case in almost every race, once voters get to know Obama and his message, they move towards him. We see that in PA, where a 20+ point lead by Clinton has moved to about 6 points as Obama introduces himself to the electorate.

I for one, an Obama supporter in Florida, did not vote because I knew the election didn't matter here. If it had, I surely would have cast my vote.

But now that the rules of the game are wished to be changed, how do I get counted, and not feel "disenfranchised". Short of a costly "re-vote" nothing would be fair.

If you agree to the rules at the onset, abide by them througout the game.

Also, I have to say, the management proficiency exhibited by the Obama Campaign says it all.

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Linda. Boston, MA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:08:42 GMT

I'm amazed at what she is allowed to get away with. She has constantly, and shamelessly, appealed for votes based on her race. Not ONCE has Obama said that anyone should vote for him because of his race. Clinton has made this appeal about gender - quite overtly - several times.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:08:51 GMT

Of course it is not about gender.....

Hilary and her qualifications to be president are more important...

So far she has shown us she is not capable of leading this country from day one, much less take that 3 a.m. phone call.

Hillary Clinton
A Liar for all seasons

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W.R. Owney, Atlanta, Texas — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:08:53 GMT

Hillary wants to count the vote in Florida even though Alabama never campaigned there.
Guess that's the only way she can beat him.
Her tortured logic only serves to remind us all how repugnant another Clinton White House would be.

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Mark, Seattle — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:09:05 GMT

"Last Sunday evening I attended the San Francisco fundraiser that has been the center of recent political jousting. The next day, when asked about the talk Obama delivered, I too commented about his answer to a question he was asked about Pennsylvania. Over the past week, though, I have had a Rashomon-like experience concerning those remarks.

Clinton, McCain, and media pundits have parsed a blogger's audio tape of Obama's remarks and criticized a sentence or two characterizing some parts of Pennsylvania and the attitudes of some Pennsylvanians. In context and in person, Senator Obama's remarks about Pennsylvania voters left an impression diametrically opposed to that being trumpeted by his competitor's campaigns.

At the end of Obama's remarks standing between two rooms of guests -- the fourth appearance in California after traveling earlier in the day from Montana -- a questioner asked, "some of us are going to Pennsylvania to campaign for you. What should we be telling the voters we encounter?"

Obama's response to the questioner was that there are many, many different sections in Pennsylvania comprised of a range of racial, geographic, class, and economic groupings from Appalachia to Philadelphia. So there was not one thing to say to such diverse constituencies in Pennsylvania. But having said that, Obama went on say that his campaign staff in Pennsylvania could provide the questioner (an imminent Pennsylvania volunteer) with all the talking points he needed. But Obama cautioned that such talking points were really not what should be stressed with Pennsylvania voters.

Instead he urged the volunteer to tell Pennsylvania voters he encountered that Obama's campaign is about something more than programs and talking points. It was at this point that Obama began to talk about addressing the bitter feelings that many in some rural communities in Pennsylvania have about being brushed aside in the wake of the global economy. Senator Obama appeared to theorize, perhaps improvidently given the coverage this week, that some of the people in those communities take refuge in political concerns about guns, religion and immigration. But what has not so far been reported is that those statements preceded and were joined with additional observations that black youth in urban areas are told they are no longer "relevant" in the global economy and, feeling marginalized, they engage in destructive behavior. Unlike the week's commentators who have seized upon the remarks about "bitter feelings" in some depressed communities in Pennsylvania, I gleaned a different meaning from the entire answer.

First, I noted immediately how dismissive his answer had been about "talking points" and ten point programs and how he used the question to urge the future volunteer to put forward a larger message central to his campaign. That pivot, I thought, was remarkable and unique. Rather than his seizing the opportunity to recite stump-worn talking points at that time to the audience -- as I believe Senator Clinton, Senator McCain and most other more conventional (or more disciplined) politicians at such an appearance might do -- Senator Obama took a different political course in that moment, one that symbolizes important differences about his candidacy.

The response that followed sounded unscripted, in the moment, as if he were really trying to answer a question with intelligent conversation that explained more about what was going on in the Pennsylvania communities than what was germane to his political agenda. I had never heard him or any politician ever give such insightful, analytical responses. The statements were neither didactic nor contrived to convince. They were simply hypotheses (not unlike the kind made by de Tocqueville three centuries ago ) offered by an observer familiar with American communities. And that kind of thoughtfulness was quite unexpected in the middle of a political event. In my view, the way he answered the question was more important than the sociological accuracy or the cause and effect hypotheses contained in the answer. It was a moment of authenticity demonstrating informed intelligence, and the speaker's desire to have the audience join him in a deeper understanding of American politics.

There has been little or no reaction to the part of the answer that was addressed to the hopelessness of inner city youth who have been rendered "irrelevant" to the global economy. No one has seized upon those words as "talking down" to the inner city youth whose plight he was addressing. If extracted from an audio tape HuffPost Blogger Fowler, those remarks could (and may yet) be taken out of context as "Obama excuses alienation and violence by urban youth." But in context, Senator Obama's response sounded like empathetic conclusions and opinions of a keen observer: more like Margaret Mead than Machiavelli.

As the week's firestorm evolved over these remarks at which I was an accidental observer, I have reflected upon the regrettable irony that has emerged from Senator Obama's response to a friendly question: no good effort at intelligent analysis, candor -- and what I heard as an attempt to convey a profound understanding of both what people feel and why they feel it - goes unpunished. Such insights by a political candidate might otherwise be valued. In a national campaign subject to opposition research, his analytical musing has instead created an immense amount of political flak.

Now and "in this time," to invoke one of the candidate's favorite riffs, such observations and remarks shared among supporters are just a push of a record button on a tape recorder away from being spread across the internet to be dissected by political nabobs. What struck me immediately after the fundraiser as so refreshing turned out to be a moment Senator Obama is forced to regret. Today we marvel at de Tocqueville insights about American communities. Apparently, such commentary is valued as long as it is three centuries old and doesn't come from the mouth of a contemporary observer who might be elected president.

So much for the political ironies. But there is one more personal observation that was missed.

I happened to be on the balcony when Senator Obama's vehicles arrived and he emerged from the Secret Service SUV. Obama shouted the friendly greeting "How are you guys up there doing?" to the group of us looking down from the balcony and then said, "You have to excuse me, I need to call my kids in Chicago now." All of us stood and watched the leading candidate for the Democratic party nomination for president have a short conversation with his kids before he entered a fundraiser to make his remarks.

No tape of that conversation has emerged as yet. Who knows how casual remarks of a father to his children or his wife on a cell phone could be spun to support the argument that as a father speaking to his kids two time zones away before they go to bed, his comments sounded as if he "looked down" upon them. Given his relative height and the age of his kids, he probably does. But that would be precisely as relevant to his capacity to unite and lead this country as were the remarks at the fundraiser that have been so deconstructed over this past week."

CASE CLOSED! SHUT UP!

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Marte, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:09:59 GMT

Hillary's eternal flame of anger -- lashing out continually and distorting truth -- make her no more fit to be the person who rectifies American misogynist notions than Jesse Jackson's or Al Sharpton's made them the candidates to rectify American racial notions when they were running for president. This is from a woman Hillary's age who grew up just a few miles from her outside Chicago. A woman candidate needs to transcend her gender, just as a minority candidate needs to transcend his (or her) race. That's how people take you seriously and respond to leadership. Angry people, no matter their race or gender, are more scary than unifying.

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garyd, amherst, nh — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:10:20 GMT

Hillary..if you can't play by the rules .....go home!
Some Florida voters have expressed their views ....why would ten of thousands of others not even vote if there was "no one" to vote for. So, if a football game was called off but one team showed up anyway and many of that team's fans showed up...should it then be decided to give the team a win just because the team and the fans showed up? Sorry Hillary ..... you cannot be the nominee.

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Joshua — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:10:28 GMT

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Aren't we desperate? Mrs. Clinton, you know so well what the rules were before you started the game, so I am really surprised you want the rules changed in the middle of the game. That is called bullying. Is that how you are going to run this country? We've had one bully the past 8 years and we don't need another for the next eight.

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HP Boston — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:10:35 GMT

And so do I Senator Clintom, if they do not I will not vote November.
I will not vote for McStupid, old befuddled McWar either. AND NEVER! EVER OBAMA!
Just a write in for Hillary if necessary!..

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Kate, PA — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:11:05 GMT

Stupid Woman. Americans are ready for a woman President, just not this woman.

I am a woman and I strongly believe this.

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I'd vote for Clinton, regardless of her gender . . . — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:11:23 GMT

. . . if she were the better candidate. But in my opinion, she is not. Her gender has nothing to do with it, just as Obama’s ethnicity has nothing to do with my voting for him.

I'm also in favor of having Florida and Michigan's delegates seated at the convention, but only if their votes are allocated evenly between the candidates. Why not split them between *all* the candidates that were in contention at the time? Why just Clinton and Obama? Heck, Edwards was still in the race then, and so was Richardson. Remember, Hill, the candidates weren't suppose to campaign in Michigan and Florida. Or did you forget that, too? Maybe you agreed to that and it was after 11:00 pm, or was it 3:00 am when you were answering the Bat Line?

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goodwin, arizona — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:11:35 GMT

Hillary does not want to count caucus votes, i.e. the number of people that each caucus delegate represents she only wants to count popular votes.