New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

kevin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:19:57 GMT

Hillary will win by 15. She is ahead in the national gallup poll. The honeymoon for Obama is over. His condescending remarks and his associations with radicals are very scary to the american people. Smart democrats are realizing this guy will never beat a war hero

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Marg, Columbus, Ohio — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:22:02 GMT

If you can add Guam to your chart in the upper right corner, you can add Puerto Rico. Get with it.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

... The question for Democratic superdelegates... — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:22:20 GMT

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The question for Democratic superdelegates is: “Do we want the ‘Clinton Three- Ring Circus’ back on the White House lawn?”

Hillary’s 2008 presidential campaign has always been about the Clintons’ own self-interests. Hillary has deliberately tried to undermine Obama’s electability in the general election, knowing that could be disastrous for the Democrats in November. She has engaged in what can be described as the ‘kamikaze’ strategy - (‘I’ll destroy Obama before I’ll let him win!’) The Clintons, as a pair, as a two-fer, have an inherently self-destructive personality.
Hillary started her campaign believing she was headed for a coronation; a sense of entitlement that screamed “I deserve to be president.” For all her claims of experience, her presidential campaign has been an unmitigated failure. And when things have gone wrong, often as a result of the Clintons’ own doing, staff and surrogates have been thrown under the bus.
Hillary’s chronic problem is how she is viewed by the majority of voters; her ratings for honesty, favorability and trustworthiness are in a steady decline. A recent AP poll finds that a “clear majority.voters now say Obama has the better chance of defeating” John McCain. It may be that more Democrats are voting ‘against’ Hillary --- than are voting ‘for’ Obama.
Her campaign has given us insight into what a Hillary Presidency would be like: half-truths, outright lies, demonizing of opponents, an endless psychodrama and a president, who when politically wounded, would whine and wallow in self-pity of victimhood. Her repugnant presidential campaign, which is headed for imminent defeat, is the second major disaster over which Hillary has presided, ‘Hillarycare’ being the first.

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New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

CJ KCMO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:24:52 GMT

I wish Obama would put up an ad about HRCs back and forth support for NAFTA-I can't believe anyone who studies her and her background thourougly would consider voting for her. The supers are on the move and it is a one way street.
Obama 08

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Geoff in Brooklyn — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:30:17 GMT

Stragne analysis Mr. Todd. If there are 9% undecided, as your poll indicates, and 1% vote for someone else.... that leaves 8%. Even if the undecideds break for Clinton at 60/40, that is still a 5/3 split of the 8%. Tha'd give Clinton 53 and Obama 45. But, some part of the undecideds must be outside the T. So,I'd say the race stands at 52 Clinton, 46 Obama....a 6 point game. And tightening, and your poll was taken at the height of the post-Debate dip for Obama. And he's outspending her this weekend. So, wouldn't you predict more like 51 / 48? That's my guess. And even if she wins by 8 or 9, that still means he did as well in PA's closed primary as he did in Ohio

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Margaret, Columbus, Ohio — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:31:24 GMT

Pennsylvania is a done deal for Hillary.

I'm intrigued about two things. First, Indiana. I think Indiana will follow Penn's lead, particulaly after Obama's weak showing at the debate. I like that money isn't necessarily winning the White House, and it shouldn't.

Secondly, how much damage did Obama do to himself with North Carolina, especially if the press steps up and continues his vetting - this week, on his liberal gun control stance that he claims he doesn't hold.
And if he bows out of the NC debate challenge from Hillary, he will look like a weeny who can't take it, so much the better for Iran if Obama is our President.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

B. Smart — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:33:38 GMT

...Hillary Clinton leading by 5 pts. She is done. What
else can she say?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Geoff in Brooklyn — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:36:48 GMT

ALSO, looking at this really simply, Obam just needs 45 or 46 percent to call this a 'victory' (single digit loss). And he's at 43% with 9% undecided. Isn't he all but certain to get at least 2% more? And with the race tightening.....?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Patrick Van Nice — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:37:55 GMT

Hillary needs 65% of the vote in each of the remaining contests - including Pennsylvania - to just pull even with Obama in pledged delegates. Anything less is meaningless for her. And Pennsylvania amounts to approximately 30% of whats left out there in pledged delegates to be won. Claiming victory with a win by 10% this Tuesday would be just spin by her campaign.

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Hillary supporter but Realistic — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:38:06 GMT

This primary is about DELEGATE count. Hillary is behind
in the delegate count, popular vote(68% of voters find her dishonest and untrustworthy), and number of states won. She will not win the nomination with these kind of
numbers. It is by all accounts over for her. What she
says doesn't matter anymore.

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JAMES CHARLOTTE NC — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:39:10 GMT

VOTERS DEMAND Obama tell about his relationship with Ayers/Iraqi crook Nadhmi Auchi/Hamas TERRORIST MOUSA ABU MARZOOK and TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER AIL BAGHDADI who write articles for Obamas church. It’s important because voters are realizing those relationships, coupled with Obama’s longtime relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is a pattern which Obama seems quite comfortable with people who really, really, really don’t like the United States of America or white people! NOT U.S. PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL!
Obama shows he is not ready to lead out country!
Quit blaming Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos for Obama's shortcomings. Instead, blame is Obamas for failing to grasp how tax penalties on upward mobility hurting the very people he thinks he's going to help
Did someone say inexperience?

During the debate, Obama bungled on tax policy, big time. Period. End of sentence. End of story. To liberals in the media, Get over it. Obama proved he has a very poor grasp of basic economic principles.
First off, you don't raise taxes during a recession. That's a no-brainer. Second, doubling the capital-gains tax rate will affect Americans up and down the income ladder, not just rich hedge-fund managers. In addition, capital-gains tax cuts are self-financing, and they stimulate jobs and the economy. You want to raise budget revenues and spark economic growth? Cut the cap-gains tax rate. That's what history shows.
Another blunder Obama also proposed uncapping the payroll tax, his tax hike on payrolls would actually slam middle-income earners, eliminating that cap Obama will be soaking veteran firemen, cops, teachers, and health-service workers, along with a variety of other occupations. Fact, in America's largest cities, a firefighter married to a school teacher can earn close to $200,000 filing jointly. So not only will each spouse separately pay more for Social Security and health care under Obama's plan, together they'll also be slammed by Obama's cap-gains tax increase.
This is more than just a failure to understand the Laffer curve. It's another cultural misstep by Obama. I can't help but wonder if the senator knows any cops or firemen. His appeal is to well-educated latte liberals. That remark about middle-income folks having turned to God, faith, and guns because of economic setbacks? Not only was it ill-advised, it illustrates the wide cultural chasm that exists between the candidate and the rest of America.
Obama's economics are bad and his social circle is very limited. This is one of the many reasons why a quarter of the Hillary Democrats are telling pollsters they'll likely move to John McCain in the general election.
Obama's real agenda is far-liberal left. It's an ideology that places income redistribution above economic growth. That's his real message. And it's the same one that sunk Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. Obama is aligning himself with the Democratic losers. And that will make him a loser as well.

African American communities desperately need capital in order to create new businesses and jobs. As Obama takes the capital out of capitalism, all those who are not rich will be hurt when the rich folks with capital have less of it -- after tax -- to invest in those new businesses and new jobs. That's exactly why wealth-redistribution plans always backfire. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is a surefire economic loser. So is putting government in charge of the economy, which is what Mr. Obama is proselytizing.
This marks the third mistake for the Illinois senator. Not only does he not understand economics; not only is he set apart from middle-class values and beliefs; he apparently hasn't read much history either. Did someone say inexperience?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

David Kolva, MD Oswego/Syracuse, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:39:52 GMT

It doesn't matter how she does in Pennsylvania. The race is over. Any gains, popular-vote or delegates that she wins in Pa. will be erased in two weks in North Carolina and Indiana. There is no way for her to win the nomination, period.

Obama knew that the worst stretch of the campaign would be the six weeks before Pennsylvania. This nightmare stretch is now coming to an end.

Obama has solid leads in Oregon, South Dakota and Montana, which will negate any deficiencies in Kentucky and West Virginia. The net result will be that he will maintain his delegate lead at the end of the primary season at the same level he has now.

The rest of the story is that the networks want to keep up the drama, so their pundits on the payroll can keep working. This race was long over after Obama's massive win streak in February and March. What an intelligent and skilled strategy! Clinton never learned how to use the internet. McCain is still trying to learn how to turn on his computer!

It is a sad commentary that somehow bowlers and hunters in rural Pennsylvania get a voice in determining who leads the most powerful nation on Earth. Bring back literacy tests for the right to vote! (Yes, I know this is elitist!)

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Sara Miles, Worton, KY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:42:06 GMT

Obama outspent Hillary by 4-1 in PA, and is going to lose big. How does he have "momentum" again?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Keith in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:44:19 GMT

Whoop-de-doo!!! If Clinton doesn't get a huge victory, she can't make up the ground she needs. Obama victory. End of story.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Doug Kimber, Orco, Tennessee — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:45:00 GMT

How in the world does Obama lose to such a fractured and divisive candidate like Hillary Clinton? I guess there are just not enough elitists in Pennsylvania to support an Obama win.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

AJ in Mesa AZ — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:45:55 GMT

CLICK The Video Link below ; Hillary is wrong as well as her cabinet , this is why Obama can Beat the republicans and Hillary cannot , because the Republicans will use this against her and the dems , Obama can use this against the Republicans , to rally support , the Clintons cannot !!!!

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

Barack Obama was right with his analogy ,
They all were wrong , so why should they, " The Clintons " , have another shot at the Highest Office in the Land ??

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Hermine Clouser, Middletown, PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:48:58 GMT

Here in Central Pa, Obama's whistle stop train tour went off with great success under a full moon and warm breezes. Seeing the diverse crowd in front of Harrisburg's Capitol was inspirational. The Obama name which was thought to be a disadvantage because it rhymed with Osama was turned to good advantage by the "Obama Mamas". Obama reported that the crowd in Philly numbered 35,000. I don't know the count in "the burg" but it was thousands. Having said that, I think the bowlers and gun owners Chuck mentions above will probably be energized to go to the polls and vote for Hillary rather than stay home. Obama Mama

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Kyle — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:51:35 GMT

why is everyone not remembering Obama was down by 15-20% just a few weeks ago? I know he has TV commercials on his side, but people are only swayed so much by dramatic music and campaign stills. IF he loses in double-digits, that is a HUGE moral victory for his campaign. he has one over many people who most thought he had no chance at swaying.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Andrea Mihaly, Bristol, PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:52:11 GMT

Sure she will win PA, you have helped her tremendously by showing your bias for her. All the bitter crap and no talk about Colombia or Mark Penn or Bill's shady dealings. I'm shocked at your so-called professional journalists. I realized this weekend, I've only turned MSNBC on twice and for five minutes each time. Believe me, I've been a loyal viewer since 1997 - no more!!!! I expect fairness from NBC.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Vince Allen, Cocoa, Florida — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:52:17 GMT

As long as Clinton continues to play on the fears and deep-seeded, quietly hidden, prejudices of middle and low income white voters then she will continue to win narrowly in states like PA, OH, WV, etc. The problem is that history clearly shows that just because a candidate can win in the primary does not mean that they can win against the Republican attack machine in the general. Trust the young people on this one! They are turning out in droves to support Obama and with their fresh, open-minded and racial free influence we can take the country back from corporate special interests. Vote Obama to beat the Republicans!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Mark — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:52:31 GMT

Clinton needs at least a 10% win to have a big impact.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Billy, MI — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:52:40 GMT

Did I read correctly that populations are being analyzed by if they bowl? Gun owners I can understand. That deals with 2nd ammendment rights, but bowlers? If Obama's bad bowling is something people actually take into consideration when voting then America may have bigger problems than previously thought. Hopefully this is something the media thought would be fun to analyze and not a serious indicator.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

peter — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:53:24 GMT

Are you serious? Is MSNBC a news organization? Trying to figure out how "undecided BOWLERS" will break? Good Grief!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Keith in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:53:52 GMT

Clinton needs a HUGE victory in PA to make up for the huge victories that Obama has had in other states. Anything close is a ends the game because there aren't enough chances left for Clinton.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

screw'emPA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:54:31 GMT

Both my kids are democrats in their 20's. No campaign has called them, they only have cell phones. How are these polls considering the young people without land lines? They are a substantial number of voters.
We have polls on bowlers? This has gone beyond bizarre? Did they poll basketball players and fans?
How about Soccer players and fans? Soccermoms?
Football? Since the steelers owner Rooney endorsed Obama, he is an icon in western PA. How about a poll in western PA on football?
Ahhh...it's too late, guess we will find out Tuesday!
If it's not Hillary with 68% of the vote, then it is over. Chuck Todd, as well as other "number experts", said she HAS to win every state by that much to win with the popular vote. Anything other than that, she will only get the nomination by SOOPERS taking it away from the voters, and handing it to her!

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Jason, Tampa, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:54:37 GMT

Thank you for the analysis of the UNDECIDED vote. This is the first time I have seen that on Penn.

When reporting the poll numbers, can you start emphasizing the actual potential spread prominently (aka the Keith number).

I'm tired of seeing one candidate or the other win by more than the based on polls with large number of undecided, then the news organization reporting a "shocker". This is manufactured news.

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Frank, Missouri — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:54:40 GMT

The joke is that the Clintons are trying to sell a 6% lead in the outcome as a 'landslide' ! After they were expected to win 20% or more.

They are already whining about how much money the Obama campaign is spending is PA. Does Clinton not WANT to spend more money - or CAN she not spend more money ?

Who is managing his (her) campaign better ?

I would be delighted if Obama would be behind by only by 6% - Clinton should pack up and leave then (like THAT will happen).

If Obama would win by one vote, I will sponsor an office party and take out the family for a huge, nice dinner !!!

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Bryant, Indianapolis — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:54:49 GMT

COnsidering the fact that she had a double-digit lead in PA about a month ago, shows the inroads Obama has made. Yes, I think the "bitter, cling" statements may have cost him some votes, however, Obama was never expected to win the state in the first place. Of course, Wolfson is trying to spin the fact that outspending Clinton 3 to 1 on television ads across PA is sending the message that Obama has to win this state which is really not the critical once the delegates allocated proportionally. Chuck and others are right, HRC is the one who has to win and win big, and perhaps even then, it is not a real game changer. It may give her some needed momentum to go into May 6. The media will make 10pts sound like the whole game has been reversed, so they derive the ratings. I would wager that if Obama were the one behind Clinton, the outcry for him to leave the race would have been deafening. Nobody can beat the Clinton Machine. I guess 30,000 PA voters attending an Obama rally is not newsworthy versus 2000 to 3000 filling a small room for HRC eh? MSNBC, you're slip is definitely showing.

Obama '08

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Objective Analysis — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:57:12 GMT

Remember OHIO and TEXAS.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

drk in TN — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:57:57 GMT

I am hoping and praying that Hillary will win and win big. The Obama train that is a train to where we do not want to go needs to be stopped.

Hillary 2008

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Justalttlwlkthrucybrspc, Spokane, WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:58:09 GMT

I just don't get all the FUSSING!

Who has the key to that freaking money printing press!

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Craig, Florida — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:58:52 GMT

I understand the focus on popular vote since this is the ONLY chance Hillary has to get the nomination ... (i.e. getting close in the popular vote and trying to convince the 60 something percent of superdelegates to go her way); but don't you think it is worth reminding people that the primary process is won by obtaining the greatest number of DELEGATES, not popular vote. As such, given the likely outcome in PA, Montana, WV, Indiana etc., there is almost nothing Clinton can do to win this race legitimately. Given that you (Chuck) are the "Numbers Guy," (and good at it), I think it is only fair that whenever you are asked anything about these issues, that you remind people of that. We have gotten so focussed on flag pins, Bosnia, Wright etc. that we have forgotten that IF THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED, Clinton's chances are frankly, slim to none. Regardless of whom you support, this is a real point that people must be reminded of.

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justalttlwlkthrucybrspc, Spokane, Wa — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:03:39 GMT

Well...............
At least we avoided that whole "utopian concept" of taking half the Jackass and half the elephant, then putting them together, like some kind of "catdog", while tossing them a hukka and then calling it a day.
About this we can breath a sigh of relief.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

louise tampa bay florida — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:03:41 GMT

I do not understand what is going on in this primary and what people are thinking.

Obama is the most racist figure on the national political stage since George Wallace.

He has attended a church where hatred of whites was taught from the pulpit: the only logical reason for his not becoming affiliated with another church is that he BELIEVES THE SAME THINGS HE WAS HEARING.

There have been statements from his wife and from Obama (typical white people) that show they do not appreciate whites.

He has never stated what CHANGE would look like if he is President but I hasten to point out that only a few people in the total population would benefit from his being President.

I believe his intent is to level the playing field (as he perceives thata field) and he would put the United States into economic crisis and chaos which would take many years to resolve.

He is attempting a revolution.

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Merton Bernstein, Brewster, MA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:04:08 GMT

Re all polls and the latest in Pa: how do the pollsters reach people who have only cell phones? If that group islargely excluded, the polls would have a major distortion. If they are somehow at least sampled and the sampole used to adjust the regular phone users, then we have more solid results. Can the impressive Chuck Todd enlighten us on polling procedure?

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Steve Jones, New York, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:05:22 GMT

No - she does not get this kind of positive press. She was up TWENTY points two weeks ago. That she'll only win by five points is no cause for celebration or victory. It should be (and will be by superdels) a failure on her part and a victory for Barack Obama

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donna, pgh., pa. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:05:56 GMT

The local television news, this morning, Sunday April 20th, here in Pittsburgh Pa., has Clinton with a 1% point lead over Senator Obama. He is closing. The poll you are referring to is 2 days late. Even the Clinton camp told it's supporters not to expect more thana 3 to 4 point win, yesterday. Additonally, land line polls do not take into consideration the younger cell phone using voter supporting Obama.

Obama's new health care, and news paper endorsement ads, have yet to be factored in. Catch-up First read.

Obama '08

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avraam jack — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:06:19 GMT

-----CLINTON SLEEZE FATIGUE WILL INVIGORATE GOP, DISPIRIT DEMOCRATS AND SINK DEMOCRATIC TICKET-----

-----OBAMA / WEBB TO WIN-----

It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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David, Denver, Colorado — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:06:56 GMT

Pennsylvania really doesn't matter anyomere. Hillary needed a double digit win there to hold off Obama. Even her strongest supporters are starting to see the writing on the wall. She may win PA by a small margin but she will not pick up much more delagates than Obama. Then they move onto North Carolina where she is going to be slaughtered and Indiana where she is losing by 5 points. Even James Carville came out and said no matter what happens in PA she needs to find a way to win Indiana or the Democratic Party needs to start rallying behind Barack Obama. I agree. It's time to bring the party together and get this country back on track.

Democrats in '08

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obie, burtrum, mn — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:08:15 GMT

If she does net 200,000 votes and picks up a handful of delegates (based on an assumed 10 point margin), she still faces insurmountable deficits on both accounts. How is that a victory? Is not anything less than a 15-20 point blowout a loss? Is a mere 5 point, or less, margin anything less than a crushing, game ending defeat?

It should be, but probably not for this self-serving, unrealistic campaign.

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Craig, Florida — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:09:41 GMT

I just turned on Meet the Press and Tim asked Gerin, (Clintons's new head honcho), the identical question about not winning the nomination "legitimately" Gerin's only answer is "let the process play out." No legitimate answer.

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Not Important — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:11:41 GMT

LOL Bowler demographic? ROFL

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gene — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:12:23 GMT

The David Brook's New Times article has about the same results, but also shows that in the key groups in Pennsylvania she is leading by big double numbers. Obama only leads in eastern Pennsylvania, which includes Philadelhia and the only reason he leads there is because of the AA voteIf it was not for that vote he would be wiped out. Democratic voters and the super delegates need to understand that Obama can not win in the fall. He will lose all of the south and the border states, all of the normal red states, michg for sure because his lawyers held up the revote, and one or all of Ohio and Pennsylvania. The Brook's article states that he is behind in these states and only tied in New Jersey, Minnesota and Wisc.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:12:33 GMT

I've liked how Chuck Todd has broken down the numbers all campaign long. Probably why MSNBC has the most accurate and complete delegate count, far better than CNN. A tight race that will be interesting to watch Tuesday night. I just hope the people of PA get smart and vote for Obama so we can change the political gridlock in Washington.

Go Obama!

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Jon, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:12:51 GMT

Why does the press refuse to ever mention in such polls that they DO NOT include young voters - 99% of whom do not have a land line to be called on?

You are failing to poll a complete section of the population and yet this fact is never even discussed.

And yet you wonder why you're polls are so off?

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Matt, Chicago, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:12:57 GMT

How has the Clinton campaign and the subservient block of the media managed to convey that a small single-digit win for Senator Clinton would be a HUGE victory? Most likely through professional B.S. and the need to suckle at the ratings teet. They might want to remember that Americans over 12 also watch the news.

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beyondtiredofit, MI — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:13:26 GMT

PA hunters, bowlers, gun owners and beer drinkers, get off the couch on Tuesday and give your vote to Hillary or take the chance that OB might be your president..

Obama LIED about gun control:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9722.html

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Olga, Oswego, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:13:47 GMT

If this primary is to be decided by bowlers, whom I assume you are referring to because of Obama's bowling (where by the way he did not bowl an entire game, but a few frames) or based on owning a gun, rather than who is going to lead us out of Iraq in a careful manner and has the best plan for the economy, then this is a sad, sad state of affairs.
Anyone who has listened to Clinton, especially over the past two weeks with her negativity, should understand that this is how she will also do business in the White House. This is what she means by fighting. She fights for herself. She certainly did not fight for jobs for New York State. She blasts anyone who disagrees with her. This is why her health care initiative failed in 1993 and the American people have had to deal with this health care crisis for another 15 years.
It is sad to think that people have forgotten her past and history which was nothing but drama and scandal.

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Baileigh — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:15:03 GMT

Oh brother. So the future of the Democratic party might now rest with bowlers and gun owners?

I think now is a good time for Sunday morning prayers.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Ross, Brooklyn, New York — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:16:07 GMT

Clinton will not win. The undecideds are like that company who you interviewed with that hasn't gotten back to you yet. As more and more time goes by it is pretty clear that the undecides will not choose Clinton. Obama will win Pennsylvania.

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turnip — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:16:30 GMT

5 points 10 points, it doesn't matter which, equates to an Obama win because she needed a 20-25 points win to make up any real ground. She will be further behind in the percentages and will bow out after he cleans her clock on May 6.

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Throy Campbell, Arlington, Texas. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:16:53 GMT

As Obama have said a number of times, it is hard to bring about change and the PA race is just that. The national poles are going for Obama, Clinton's superdelagates are joining the change party and it is clear the media is struggling to fight this change. Like the abc debate, nothing can stop this change. America is America because of the diffcult changes in the past - this is one such move. God Bless Obama and God Bless America.

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Apollyon — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:18:23 GMT

One problem with your figures, Chuck. The largest increase in registrations are young people under 30. A huge chunk of them don't have landlines, as is the trend. Pollsters can't poll cellphone users. So that demographic is seriously under polled. Now I don't have numbers for all folks under 30. What I do have is that college students are breaking 4 to 1 in favor of Obama... and nearly all of those only have cellphones. And college students are much more likely than ever to participate. THAT is not good news for the Clinton camp.

One other thing... bowlers? Really? They actually have numbers on bowlers? Judas Priest!

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Hillary Supporter in Tennessee — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:19:43 GMT

I hope the good folks of PA turn out BIG for Hillary.

Obama cannot win in November and we need to have Hillary going head-to-head and toe-to-toe with McCain. I think Hillary can beat McCain. I am sure that Obama cannot beat McCain. By the time he gets vetted good folks will then know the real Obama and realize that he is not the person we need in the presidency.

HILLARY 2008

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carrie, north augusta,sc — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:12 GMT

hey everyone did u hear bout the hyjacking of obamas site yesterday?
heres the story from kos, seems the media doesnt think its important

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/20/0418/25607/38/499311

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nuanced — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:14 GMT

Chuck, will this be another case where Clinton "wins", such as in Texas, but Obama walks away with the most delegates which for some reason doesn't count as a win.

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Carlos Jean-Gilles — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:52 GMT

This is a pretty good summary of the situation in PA. My take is that this time the undecided voters will stay home because even if they were to break towards HRC their votes will not make much of a difference.

In OH, they turned out because they thought that would have allowed HRC to remain in the race. In PA, they won't bother because the idea that HRC can't win the nomination has sunk in.

The undecided voters who will show up at the polls on Tuesday are more likely to be BO's supporters; therefore, BO could actually win PA by one of two percentage points.

Regardless of whether my analysis is correct, it will be obvious to even HRC that she cannot win this nomination after NC and IN vote on May 6th.

Carlos Jean-Gilles
Saint Louis, MO

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CJ CKMO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:57 GMT

Didn't anyone see HRC bowl on Ellen? Just as bad. Do we want a President downing shots? HRC grew up priveleged-not Obama. Who is kidding who? Look at the facts!
Obama 08

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Sean, Minneapolis, Mn — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:21:07 GMT

Chuck, why don't you and Andrea Mitchell go campaign for Hillary. You two are trying hard to be neutral, but it's showing.

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Who's Sane — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:22:31 GMT

Where are the stats on which way the basketball players in PA are voting? That could be decisive.

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Manolete, San Mateo California — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:23:00 GMT

We need a president that loves and is proud of our country, a president that has compassion and understanding for rural America and the challenges we are facing in this troubling economic times;we need a president that can take the national and international political pressures, we need a president that is mature, strong experienced and determined.

The choice is now clear and the polls reflect that Hillary Clinton is the best choice for the democratic party.

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Hillary Supporter in Tennessee — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:23:03 GMT

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ATF, Tired of dumb polls about bowlers and gun owners, GOOD GOD!! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:23:20 GMT

Keep trying to stave off the inevitable. 62-38 at the bare minimum for her to even legitimately remain in the race. Get real people. You all would have kicked Obama out long ago if he was in her position. Actually, more than likely, he would have gracefully bowed out in looking out for the party's interests before his own long before now simply because he has way more class than any other campaign or media outlet. Say hello to the next POTUS Barack Obama.

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typical white small town woman for Hillary!!! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:24:56 GMT

You can do it Hillary. We are bringing all the neighbors and friends we can to the polls tues.It is your state and the elitest may try all he wants to pretend but it is demeaning and we arent buying.He has said all along how his followers are the rich but the ones I know say they are for you Hillary cause they like the winning side. They may tell people anything they want before but they will be with you too Hillary.We are a proud state and loyal to our own.If thats bad than to bad.I love our life weather good or bad.We have neighbors we can count on and we help all we can.We meet at the turkey shoots and our word is our bond.Church isnt just once a week with us its a fellowship in best and worse times.Our church teaches love not hate and thats love of country not the other.We are and have been proud of our country and trust Hillary is the one to bring the changes we need to make this great country even better.You go girl we are with ya.

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Barbara, Housto — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:26:39 GMT

So Clinton is "getting close to" 50% (she's 2% away) and Obama is "struggling" to get to 45% (he's 2% away)! Amazing how the way you phrase something can make it sound!!! Gee, I wonder if this was on purpose.

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dmg — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:26:48 GMT

Leadership:

As defined from the encyclopedia
1. The ability "to get people to follow voluntarily."
2. Those entities that perform one or more acts of leading.
3. The ability to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission designated by the leader.

Leadership as defined (summarized by me) that I learned as a military officer.
Leadership is the art of “Influencing” a group of people in such a way as to obtain their “loyal” confidence and cooperation in order to accomplish the mission

Everyone has their opinions and thoughts. I would only ask you which of the two do “you” believe is demonstrating true leadership.

I spent 12 years in the military, love my country, and will still fight and die for it. But I know whom I’m voting for.
No president can accomplish anything by themselves they mush have good people around them. Who do you think inspires more?

You be the judge

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lb, CO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:27:14 GMT

Well despite polls anything can happen and I am still hoping and praying that Pennsylvania give Senator Obama a win however narrow in Pennsylvania so that we can start to bring the fight for the nomination to a close. I am worried about the faulty voting machines and Clinton's ties to all of the party leaders in Pennsylvania... just don't trust them.. while they strongly decry anything they consider tampering with their caucus goers etc. I wonder at the truthfulness and accuracy of our primaries. And her camp most clearly has tampered with caucus voters... in Nevada handing out instructions that told them to close the doors early... the letter in Texas that told them not to let an Obama supporter act as secretary etc. They are hypocrites when it comes to this stuff. I don't think that we fully understand how much restraint Senator Obama has demonstrated in not going after the Clintons... I think it has been tremendous and a demonstration of his desire to change the way we approach politics... my be hurting him and slowing his nomination... but I applaud him for trying.

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Huele Guiso, Tucson, Arizona — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:29:07 GMT

Please, do not undestimated Senador Clinton, all the negativity, all that she has taken week after week, month after month has make her nothing but a even stronger. When I listen to her I hear REAL SOLUTIONS, she may not give this beautyful and musical speeches, but she talks substance, specific solutions.
My vote goes to HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!THE REAL CHANGE

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Joy, Oklahoma — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:29:45 GMT

It will be very interesting to see where the chips fall in PA, I respect their right as Americans to vote, and I hope their voice will be heard(who can doubt it)but I have to admit, I find the heavy focus by the media and candidates on the outcome in 'the big states' and the over-weighting of this and the other remaining primaries to be getting a bit old. The longer these primaries go on, the less the earlier vote seems to count. Many many people have already voted, and it seems to me their votes have been as important as PA. Let's get these last primaries over with and pick a nominee, even if it's not the one I'd prefer, and focus on beating McCain, not dynamiting the Democratic party's credibility to smithereens and fragmenting the base into little pre-defined groups that all have to be sucked up to. Gun owners, gays,activists, people of faith, bowlers??? the bowler demographic?? Yeesh.We're all Americans and we need a president that will see us that way.

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Deborah Moran, Houston, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:30:53 GMT

Although the two candidates are similar on many issues, Hillary Clinton is more moderate in a couple of very important areas, especially on energy policy. While both recognize the importance of conservation and development of alternative energy sources, in interviews with the Houston Chronicle, only Clinton also recognized the need for more domestic oil production in the Gulf of Mexico in addition to help alleviate an inevitable supply shortage as China and India increase their demand as expected. In fact, not doing so could head us for an economic disaster in the future as supplies tighten. Alternative sources all have various problems which keep them from becoming the lion's share of our energy needs any time in the next couple decades. Already we are seeing in the news, massive food shortages in parts of the world caused by the tripling of rice prices due to the increased use of land for biofuels. Wind takes large swaths of real estate and poses some risks to wildlife. Solar panels take energy to produce and are so far, still expensive.

Also, only Clinton's health plan recognizes the importance of universality to get enough healthy people involved to pay for the illnesses of the less healthy, and to increase preventive care. Her plan is designed to limit costs to at most 10 percent of income, which would be a reduction to many people who want insurance. But it would not allow shortsighted citizens to opt out, only to find they can't get coveage when they need it as is often the case today.

Finally, Hillary Clinton's floor speech on the Iraq war vote shows the kind of thinking I would like to see in a Commander-in-Chief. It outlines a specific course of action designed to greatly minimize the chances of war, while increasing the pressure and world support for inspections. I thought it was excellent. References:

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5546810.html

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Ron, Gainesville — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:30:56 GMT

I'm an Obama supporter but it looks like Clinton by 7-8 points. This is all so futile but gender politics wins over realism (Obama will win, eventually). I hope that the realism of the state of our nation will be more influential than flag pins and Rev Wright come the fall. Not if FOX News and ABC can help it.

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Unrepentant — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:36:53 GMT

Most gun owners are going to be inherently close-minded -- fearful, even paranoid, folk. Change makes them nervous. Bowlers seem like they would be a bit more receptive to something new, but perhaps staring down those lanes night after night narrows their vision. It makes sense that these two demographics would support Clinton, whose politics are stagnant, fear-based, and repetitive. I will be glad when PA is over -- the state doesn't deserve the attention it garners simply because it harbors a disproportionate number of ignorant back-enders.

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Ruth, Portland, OR — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:37:04 GMT

Please tell me you're kidding that they segmented the sample into "bowlers." Gun owners I can see, but bowlers?? As if people make their decisions based on affinity for bowling-heaven help us. I cannot wait for this process to be over. The media has descended to the level of kindergarteners.

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Jason Riggs, Kinston, North Carolina — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:37:07 GMT

Could the small town theory held or "mentioned" by Senator Obama hold any weight in North Carolina? It seems that people here in North Carolina are not paying attention to Sen. Obama's campaign. However, their is a clandestine movement here in North Carolina, decried from the pulpit, for registered republicans to change their party affiliation so they can vote for Sen. Clinton in the May 6th primary. This is reinforcing a notion that she will be easier to beat in the general election against Sen. McCain.

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Sunshine, Peoria IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:38:04 GMT

For all that have not noticed this, including Hillary herself,......SHE HAS ALREADY LOST THE DEM NOMINATION!!!!!!What is so freaking hard for her & her supporters to understand.The constant attacks on Obama will not change that fact.What you fail to realize is that back in OH & TX Hillary needed to win 60% or more of the vote in the remainder states to even get close & the reality is she's not gonna do it.The superdelegates wouldn't dare turn over the pledge delegates or popular vote because truth is Obama won both the honest way without trying to steal it.So from here on out the kitchen sink tactics are only ruining the democratic party. So GET LOST Hillary so we can tackle SENILE WAR MONGER MCCAIN!!!!!

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Pete - Albany, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:38:07 GMT

Point 1...of course this is Senator Clinton's primary to lose. It always was. She's the brand name in this entire contest and in Pennsylvania she has the backing of Governor Rendell's political machine.

Point 2...Define "substantial victory"...all the polls opened with Senator Clinton leading by 20 points in Pennsylvania. If the margin of victory for Senator Clinton is single digits on Tuesday is that really a "substantial victory"? And, please, no spin...with a pledged delegate lead of 166 and an overall delegate lead at 140 will a single-digit vitory be enough of a difference in this contest?

Point 3...I've read plenty of Clinton supporters crowing that Senator Obama can't "close the deal". Doesn't that argument also apply to Senator Clinton? She opened as the favorite. Where's her ability to close the deal? If you open at a 20-point lead (as with Ohio and Texas) what does it say when your opponent can cut that lead to single digits? Remember, she opened as the favorite and now has to play catch-up.

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Enrique, Chicago — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:40:54 GMT

It's truly a shame that many of the voters in PA can't see that Hillary is not in this race for the people. She's in it for her own self serving needs. She's turned off so many voters across the country. Her slash and burn political games have destroyed her legacy.

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Rick, Reading, PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:42:01 GMT

So what is the impact on the nominating process when Mrs Bill nets 120k votes and 3 delegates ? A Vernon Jordan phone call to the Clintons ?

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No Longer Undecided in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:42:16 GMT

My mind is made up...

As I've read this blog I see a pattern and it's helped me make my choice on Tuesday.

What's the difference between an Obama supporter and a Clinton supporter?

Based on this blog, an Obama supporter doesn't like Senator Clinton while a Clinton supporter doesn't like the Obama supporters.

Don't you see the fundamental difference?

I see Obama supporters making comments about Senator Clinton herself while the Clinton supporters repeatedly refer to Obama supporters as Obamabots, Obamapods, etc.

Clinton supporters, you seem to have more to say about Obama supporters than Obama himself.

...and I've made my choice...

Obama '08!

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Brian M De. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:42:21 GMT

Mr Todd I am glad to see that you are back at work the bias postings by Mr Montanaro was unreal these past 2 days.I am an Obama supporter but I like fair reporting of both sides.Not just in favor of Obama or Clinton.I also feel that Mr Montanaro is guilty of censorship of pro Obama view points. I posted 7 comments as soon as the subjects posted om the site only 1 made it on the blogs. Chuck I dont think this should be an all Obama good news blog , but it should not be an all Clinton one either.New reporting should try to be as nonbias as possible and if that is to hard to do the reporter should state that he or she is giving a biased oppion not to confuse people. Stating that I believe that a lot of First Read fans are dissappointed with Mr Montanaros one sided view in front of a primary to be so onesided is unfair.No one has posted the story of Hillary in a room of her supporters throwing Move-On.org under the bus since they support Obama, the same Move-On.org that was support for her when Bill had his issues in the White House.Nor has more been said about Hillarys new stance on Iran and her Umbrella Policy in the Middle East against Iran.In all what I am trying to say Chuck is have your folks report it a little less bias.Please dont let this become an all Hillary blog.

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kate glass, evanston illnois — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:43:37 GMT

It's just SO preposterous how MSNBC has accepted Republican framing of this election--I really thought it was a joke that they broke down the vote in terms of who bowls, hunts, and drinks beer. As an Obama supporter, I see very clearly that the media is stacked against him. I used to think Chuck Todd was more rational, less partisan, but it seems clear that he has shifted to building up McCain and Clinton's candidacies.

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Sheri Wichita, KS — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:45:25 GMT

I'm just so sick of the Clintons, I wish the people of Pennsylvania would just vote her out.

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SayNoToMontanaro — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:49:08 GMT

Your heading for this is very misleading. In the last 48 hours, you guys have put quite a few misleading headlines on things concerning Senator Obama....
Just Saying, Jacksonville, FL (Sent Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:29 PM

Chuck another person That sees the way Mr Montanaro has taken this blog and used it for his Pro-Clinton purposes.

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Doug, Paris, Texas — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:49:37 GMT

Chuck, this is pretty specious reasoning. Neither Kerry nor Gore won in the T, yet both carried Penn. The key battleground is the suburbs around the urban centres.

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David, New Mexico — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:53:09 GMT

I would be curious to know what the break down of polling numbers tell us about the real contest. The contest for pledged delegates. Could you break down some polling data to analyze any possible net delegate gain for Clinton. While the popular vote is marginally interesting, I would be curious to know if Clinton can make a significant net gain in pledged delegates. I haven't seen anyone doing that kind of projection who believes she can do much better than +12. In other words, for all this alleged drama what we have is no significant movement in the one metric that actually wins the nomination: pledged delegates.

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Fed up — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:53:57 GMT

Bowlers? That's a metric? Next it'll be the guy /gal you want to have a beer with...the meme that was pushed endlessly by the nattering class in the last two elections..Our kids are being killed and injured in a senseless invasion, our economy is suffering, we've been endlessly lied to by a corrupt administration and you zero in bowlers?
We deserve(d) the president we get.
MSNBC et al distorts this so-called "close" primary race to continue for their clownish infotainment ratings.

Don't we NEED a President who is embarassingly smart and focused as Jon Stewart said. Bowling? Jogging? Chopping wood? NO THANKS, not this time.

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Al in LA, CA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:54:14 GMT

Let's be honest. Just like Texas, if Clinton wins by 1 vote, the media will tout "Huge win for Clinton" to keep this game going. There is an obvious bias in the press towards self interest.

We all know Clinton will win by 15. Reason, Rendell & the establishment who truly understand PA are Clinton supporters and will deliver their people using old school methodologies. Secondly, after 6 weeks of marking by Obama, the undecided will all go to Clinton.

The press is saying 10pts or more is a Clinton win, but they know it will be 15pts or more.

There is a 3rd partner in this dance, and she is the media.

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Andre McConico — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:54:36 GMT

Voters don't like to be told what to do by you guys in the media.

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jane-pa — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:55:03 GMT

Hillary I think people and Supers are seeing who is best for this country. We all know Obama always outspends you 4 to 1 and loses but he doesnt get it. It isnt the money it is the perosn. You cannt always buy everyone.We see the disdain,threats and mean talk when you get a super to stand with you. This is not negativity?? This isnt what the people want. I think the supers were picked that have the strength to voice there choice. Obama has been pressuring these people and I have seen him threaten them. He is the one said those states you won should have the supers for you. We dont want a pres. that rules with threats or the people with him either.This sounds more like the sounds of Dictatorship.He says his living in other country makes him better than Hillary or McCain. Look at the country he is talking about.Blood runs in the street churches burned . Hillary you keep going please.We are with you.His arrogance when questioned and brush it off and the bird to us might be cute to his people not to us and we vote too.

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Andy Murrish, Mesa, AZ — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:55:17 GMT

It is going to get worse if anyone was watching Meet the Press this morning. Geoff Garin just got taken to the woodshed by David Axelrod.

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mariann — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:58:00 GMT

What Clinton/Obama won't say but infer is that RACE really does matter in the end - White voters for Clinton 'cause she is White, and Black voters for Obama because he is Black. I thought the Democratic is the Pary of Unity and "Liberal" ideas.

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James — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:59:05 GMT

The problem, Chuck, is that even if she wins by the 5%, she will LOSE delegates because of the proportional distribution. You know who told me that? YOU. A month ago, you were saying that she has almost no chance of winning the delegate count. Now, even though Obama has picked up more supers than she has, and her 20+ lead in the polls in PA has shrunk to almost within the margin of error, we aren't hearing the same message from a month ago. What's up?

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40 Years in the DemNPL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:03:39 GMT

Assume a 10 point victory for Hillary - it means nothing to the end result, unless she picks up about 30 net delegates. The media (or the Clinton campaign) has inserted the popular vote total into discussions about what will motivate the super delegates. Attached to that, media comments often imply that super delegates WANT to support Clinton, but need a justification to do so. That's simply not true. Those who wanted to support Hillary did so when her nomination seemed inevitable. Actually super delegates, while they want to win the White House, are more interested in who will have the better coat-tails. Across the country ... south, midwest, mountain states, northwest ... that's Obama. Super delegates from those places want to support Obama and they will. As far as the popular vote discussion goes, there are too many ways to count it for it be important. For instance, Obama got approximately 120,000 vote margin from the Texas caucuses - but that shows up in no one's tally. Other caucuses go uncounted.

The pain and the spending go on, but the result was clear on Feb. 5 ... Obama is the next President of the United States.

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Truth for Our Times — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:04:32 GMT

The GOP wants Hillary to be the nomination...
Easy to beat with the NAFTA lies and Bosnia forgetfulness...Makes McCain a saint...Why would every GOP endorers want Hillary...catch-a-clue...
Is totally beatable by McCain ticket...That's the
"experience counter"...Hillary is nulled...

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Aimee, San Diego, CA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:04:37 GMT

Okay... seriously? MSNBC is now polling BOWLERS? Have you completely lost it? When you do things like this, you are part of the problem. Please get a grip. MSNBC is one of the few news stations I can actually bear to watch; but if you keep doing things like this you're going to lose me. I need at least a modicum of gravitas. The tiniest little bit of journalistic integrity from the station as a whole. Please try -- I'm actually begging you. Forget about the damn bowlers and concentrate on things that actually matter.

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Alice, WPB, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:06:31 GMT

Too many undecided? It can get kinda confusing out there:

I not think he is an elitist but his recent comment certainly was.
I do not think she lies but she mis-speaks on many issues.
I do not think he is too old but his views don’t reflect current reality.

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Elizabeth, Dallas — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:06:34 GMT

If there are any undecided Pennsylvanians, please look carefully at the most important issue: The Clinton loyalists are endorsing OBAMA. Please, before you cast your vote, research why that is happening! They know much more than we do...

Obama is truly out for the good of the country; look at his record for a moment and ignore her "claims" - remember, she HAS to make him look unelectable. Could he really be anti-American if he has spent his whole life working for the downtrodden? think it through...

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Betsy Roker, Harrisburg, PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:07:39 GMT

This just goes to show what a RACIST state that Pennsylvania is and always has been for as long as I can remember. Obama will do well in Philadephia which has a large African/American population but thats about it!!!

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Keith in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:08:03 GMT

The "guilt by association" campaign by Clinton and the Republicans is a clear failure. Your polls show it and the election results will show it. Clinton is not getting the juice she needs. The McCarthy tactics are for LOSERS.

People only fall for McCarthy tactics when there's a "red menace" or some threat that creating real fear. Republicans won't have it easy generating fear while at the same time they don't want to focus on the real threat in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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Sam — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:13:03 GMT

If you AMERICANS think Mr. Obama is not good enough for you, please send him to FRANCE. We will take him and keep him as our leader forever!

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Wilcox, Washington — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:14:41 GMT

Please please PLEASE tell me how in the world polling bowlers...yes BOWLERS is some form of reliable polling?? BOWLERS?? REEEAAALLLY!?!? In the world of politics bowlers are a deciding factor? Why?

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Larry, Union KY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:15:34 GMT

This process will go on until August...enough! The best way to bring this to an end is for voters to come out in mass for OBAMA. A PA victory will make it hard for Mrs. Clinton to go on and force her to give it up. Then, Mr. Obama can then start uniting the party and get ready for November.

PA VOTERS HELP UNITE THE PARTY...VOTE FOR BARACK!!

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Elated in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:17:18 GMT

Wow! I am so please to see so many Bowler's and Gun owners are finally going to have a big sway in who wins. I just get such a fuzzy feeling hearing that sort of like the Evangels coming out in mass and giving me four more years of Bush, it really is a blessing known that the well imformed highly educated electorate is going to come in and make such a defining choice for the Blue collars worker's Go Wal-mart!!

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Mike, Champaign, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:20:14 GMT

Really? That is the best you could do? Bowlers and Gun Owners? Give me a break guys, find something meaningful to report on.

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annie nesselrodt — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:21:40 GMT

hang in there Hillary you can win if we have just a little more time he will slip up again and put his foot in his mouth,

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Janice — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:21:55 GMT

Here goes Chuck Todd (another Hillary shill) again. Of course she's expected to win in PA. This isn't anythint new to anyone. The real story in these polls is that Obama has closed her lead substantially in the past few weeks. Also Chuck, if you've been listening to the real news, then you would know that these polls do not consider all of these new young dems who are for Obama, and the pollsters do not call cell phones, duh! So lets not get your "panties in a wad" about how Hillary is going to win and the question is just how much. All of a sudden we're beginning to hear MSM pundits talk about if she gets 10% it's big for her, when earlier we were hearing how she would have to get at least 65% in all of the rest of the primaries to get close to even with Obama. As has been said numerous times, if Obama were behing in every aspect (delegates, popular votes, etc.), you would be calling for him to quit, and wondering why he is still in the race when the outcome will ultimately be the same.

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lee Faneuf Treasure Island Florida — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:22:45 GMT

MoveOn.Org a Democrat Base Activist group started up to aid Pres Clinton during his Impeachment went under
ATTACK behind close doors, reported by Huffington Post, similar to "bitter" comments spoken by Obama. BY HILLARY CLINTON. THIS SHOULD BE FRONT PAGE NEWS...AIRED ON ANCOR DESKS! MoveOn.Org is 3.2 Million members strong, of donors and volunteers. If we are to be United in the General Election in Nov. This has to be dealt with now!

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KJ, Dalla, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:24:24 GMT

Yep, unfortunately Clinton will win by 10-13%. Unfortunately Dems., this isn't over yet.

OBAMA, 2008!

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Karela, Hastings, Michigan — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:26:45 GMT

Why no mention of the 10% of PA voters who are college students and who favor Obama by 71%. Also, they don't usually show up in the polls because they don't have land lines.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:27:58 GMT

Lets get it done and on to June 3. Montana's polls will be the last to close to end this Primary Season. Hopefully it will be decided way before then but if not then so be it. Excitement and interest are high. Long lines are expected. I just visited the newly opened Obama headquarters with my checkbook in hand. The yard sign is up and the bumper stickers are on (I have never put a bumper sticker on my car before).

Yes we can!

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Harold Eckhoff...Fairmont WV — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:29:42 GMT

Dear MSNBC management:
I enjoy your nes presentations, particularly Chris matthews (Hardball) BUT I was disappointed and angered by a statement made this AM (Sunday morning 10:34AM) by a female reported who referred to Pope Benedict as "an elusive CREATURE". This is in such terrible tase and so disrespectful that an apology is certainly needed. Fo me, I will consider getting my news from alternate sources.
Harold

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Selina, Wilmington, Delaware — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:29:47 GMT

I pray to all that is holy, please do not let that lying, cheating, uncaring, and fake family back into the WH. That type of experience means nothing. There will be no betterment for The United States or it's people.

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Nathan, North Carolina — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:30:03 GMT

I've been saying for weeks that Obama's "gaining" is ALL within the margin of error. He hasn't gained any ground in Pennsylvania. The Pollsters are just "spinning" the results without drawing attention to the MARGIN OF ERROR. Which for most of the recent polls is close to 5-percent! With HUGE amounts of Undecided Voters still undeclared.

I choose to vote for a DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, who is supported by TRUE DEMOCRATS. A candidate who has not gone after illegal cross-over voters of Independents and Republicans who are attempting to overthrow our Democratic Party Nomination. I support Hillary Rodham Clinton, a TRUE DEMOCRAT.

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Cross in Lauderhill, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:30:14 GMT

A 10 point victory is within reach, 200.000 ppopular votes is withi reach. Seems like good news for Sen. Clinton. Then reality sets in, when everything she gains in PA evaporates in NC, and she doesnt get what she needs out of Indiana. In the end, even Puerto Rico's anti-statehood votes (I'm Puerto Rican, so I know how that group thinks), will not bring her closer to the delegate count (I'm betting she will still be 100+ delegates in the hole). I gotta give it to the ole' girl. She fought, she tried, heck, she even threw the kitchen sink at the young lad, but one thing she didnt do, was to pay attention to the people that should have mattered. It's not the Penn's or the Wolfson's or the Singer's, Sen. Clinton. You should have been listenting to the Joe's and the Mary's and the Kathy's, the George's. That means us. Im voting for Obama (even tho I am a Republican), because being in the same age group, I can relate to him and vice versa. You're in my mother's age group, and I could have related to you because of how I feel about mom, she too is feisty and fiery and tells it like it is. The difference is that my mom doesn't lie to have to make her point. That is where you lost this.

Obama '08

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Angelica — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:30:54 GMT

Clinton will not win PA.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Fiction and numbers, az — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:32:47 GMT

This is just another pumped up numbers game, Its the final count! The choice will be between a known LIAR "Clinton" and a unknown. Would you base your future on more lies and conjecture or be able to construct a positive meaning in government? There is no qualified new leadership, we are just as bad off as yesterday! So numbers lie and the want to be ""a bigger LIAR!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

The truth be told! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:34:22 GMT

Think hard about the general election!

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/devastating_clinton_youtube_video_hits_web/
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Hillary’s Terrorist Ties
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/hillarys_terrorist_ties/
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Clinton Slams Democratic Activists At Private Fundraiser

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celeste-fremon/clinton-slams-democratic_b_97484.html

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Who Will be Thrown Under the Clinton Bus Next?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/who-will-be-thrown-under_b_97545.html
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My Recollection of Hillary Clinton at the 1995 Camp David Meeting
Hillary said "Scew Em"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theda-skocpol/my-recollection-of-the-19_b_97291.html
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http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/will_the_media_ever_report_on_the_upcoming_clinton_vs_paul_trial
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Why women shouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/why_women_shouldnt_vote_for_hillary_clinton/
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HILLARY CLINTON'S BIGGEST COVER-UPS
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hcvrillary.htm

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

TLA, IN — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:34:34 GMT

GREAT SONG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMokHZ_35qY

Lobbyists for Foreign Governments Raise Money, Get Clinton, McCain Meetings

http://abcnews.go.com:80/Blotter/story?id=4228113&page=1

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Franco, Ft Lauderdale, Fl — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:36:20 GMT

Chuck this last week has shown your Clinton bias....I didn't know you were a soothsayer, KNOWING which way the undecides would break....LMAO
You have been hanging out too much on Morning Joe

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

sweeetback, London, UK — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:40:35 GMT

still an incredible movement from a doubelpoint lead a few months ago for clinton now narrowed to a single digit lead.

Seems that saturating the state with tv and radio adds is working plus the general mood of the country that obama has momentum and will be the eventual democaratic candidate.

don''t seme him losing by much

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

RICHARD MILLER LITTLE ROCK AR. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:41:36 GMT

WHAT BACKGROUND DO THESE POLLSTERS COME FROM.?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

J. Brough, Brandon, MS — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:41:44 GMT

This is an unrelated comment. I saw you on MSNBC last week saying that you did not believe Republicans are crossing to vote for Hillary Clinton. I live in Rankin County, Mississippi which is one of the most Republican counties in Mississippi. I can assure you that many (from 15 to 20%)of the Clinton votes came from Rush Limbaugh Republicans and/or "red necks." It is absolutely well-known here. I have many friends and neighbors who are laughing about it. They will vote for McCain in the general. They believe in their hearts that Clinton will get the Republicans to the polls. They are not worried about Obama because they will never believe an "uppity" black man could be elected. You may not believe it, but it is absolutely the truth.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Steve Lynchburg,VA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:44:52 GMT

Like your own Gov. said, most of the whites in the "T" will not vote for a black candidate. Simply put, Tuesday gives you in the "T" an opportunity to prove yourselves to be simple minded racists or americans who are ready to move beyond race just as the majority of America has done.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Margo Virginia Beach, VA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:45:21 GMT

Chuck wants the double digit lead so the race can continue and MSNBC can have something to talk about. This is perhaps the biggest ratings for the cable news network I watched you yesterday and you made mention that things are winding down and you did not seem happy about that. That's okay, I'll keep watching

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Failure and fiction — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:12 GMT

The numbers are like water, meaning one slip of the lip and they evaporate! Just like those numbers Clinton changes her position by who said what! Clinton is the problem, she extends new issues to mask over the failed and failing issues, Painting a new picture is not going to take away poverty, homeless, national debt, war, because she has not the power of the congress! She is one of the most disliked people in congress! Her voting track record shows total conjecture and not planed leadership resolve!

Numbers for what? More of ""enough is enough""! Isn't enough the finished product, then by common sense would the people vote for HRC?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Sandra, Richmond, VA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:55 GMT

I understand with the undecideds and the crosstabbs that you are trying to get a closer look at who those undecideds are, but it would seem reasonable that many of the folks who are gun owners might also be bowlers, thus the crosstabs tell you little. Is that so? Are things so fluid that crosstabbing bowlers might tell you anything? I am interested in knowing about how many new voters aren't polled because they don't have landlines, how many Repubs who have switched are serious legitimate voters (and who also have not been polled (no?) It seems like the GOTV will be especially important for this primary.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Judy Burns, Boulder, CO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:50:25 GMT

This is a comment about Meet the Press. I can't seem to find out how to directly email tim russert. Has anyone told him that he is the moderator. He is not on the Obama payroll - or maybe he is.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

E Nelson, OH — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:53:09 GMT

Who is a stronger advocate for Hunters?

Obama voted FOR the Vitter amendment which PREVENTS the government from confiscating guns from law abiding citizens during emergencies or martial law. HIllary voted AGAINST it.

Obama was recently fully ENDORSED by the Amnerican Hunters and Shooters Association. Hillary has NOT been endorsed by any such organization.

So who is really for the rights of hunters and legal gun owners?

Obama is for hunters and sportsman as evidenced by his actions and Hillary is just lying to get votes.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

aba23 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:53:41 GMT

Pa. will look exactly like Ohio because Pa. looks pretty much like Ohio. It will tell us nothing we don't already know.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

voter in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:54:38 GMT

"Yeh, let's keep this thing going for Clinton, please people!" says Chuck Todd and all the rest of the media. Cause if you don't, some of us could be OUT OF A JOB!!!

Save the media ratings! Save the media ratings!!

The heck with all you stupid people who are losing your houses, can't afford to put gas in your car or send your kids to college - Us media types could give a flying F**K ABOUT YOU!!
Signed Chuck Todd and his MSM friends

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

caroline berney Ontario Canada — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:57:21 GMT

There is a very serious statement made by Barack Obama. He would look at the oil reserves. This statement was made in light of the cost of gasoline. The oil reserves are for a matter of life and death operation of the country. This matter needs some clarification.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

TMic, South Bend, Indiana — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:59:07 GMT

Journalism students take note: Study these pages after the election to see how an organization tries to influence the outcome of an election with selective "news" and news placement. It is interesting but also sad. There seems to be no place left to read news without a bias.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

William, Dallas, Texas — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:01:27 GMT

Go Hillary Go.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

iman — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:02:23 GMT

Chuck,
In the past I felt you were an Obama supporter, but reading your posts and listening to you lately I feel you are leaning towards Hilary (in your anaylsis) even though I feel you do not believe because the media does not want this to end Hillary/Barack fight.

But the truth of the matter reading all the polls including AOL which tends to lean Hillary the public really is sick of it. The pragamist (Ms. Clinton voters are definitly not the "idealist") knows the only way to end this is to "stop going out to vote for Hillary" so I tend to believe the undecided in Pennsylvania will not go out and vote.

It might be all over for Hillary by Tuesday, but no matter what it shows she will go all the way to the convention, this is all about "her".

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Karen Z. NY NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:03:54 GMT

Obama's lies are getting absolutely disgusting. He is like Elmer Gantry, leading his lemmings over a cliff of lies and distortions. I cannot believe the press never questions his outright fabrications. He misquotes, slanders, and spews BS. He is truly one of the most gutter politicians to ever enter politics.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Ohio — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:04:31 GMT

Maybe people should look into the Hillary Flip-Flop regarding MoveOn.org. This lady will say anything to get elected.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Jojo, Bellevue,WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:05:40 GMT

Hillary is compaigning for McCain. McCain shall
pick her as his running mate to against her fellow
democrat, Obama.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

D Campbell, Dillsburg,PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:07:50 GMT

Nobody asked me. With all of the scandal and appearance of corruption that has followed Hillary Clinton from her job during Watergate to the financial connections with Canada, China and the Arabs, how could she have gotten this far? As Americans, we should be able to rely on our news media to tell us ALL the facts, not be one sided, and let us make up our own minds. I can't just hear about Hillary and Barack. I also have to hear about Bill Clinton and Chelsea. What kind of mother lets her daughter go to a gay bar and get groped in order to get a vote? Only thing worse was seeing Hillary doing shots. Is this the impression we want of our President?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:13:08 GMT

HILLARY ROVE CLINTON WAS UP 20 POINTS 2 WEEKS AGO.SHE HAS THE POLITICAL MACHINE IN PA BEHIND HER. THE STATE HAS A LARGE ELDERLY AND RURAL POPULATION. THE STATE IS MADE FOR HILLARY SO WHY SHOULD SHE NOT WIN?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Nashville_fan — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:13:14 GMT

Hmmmmm, but the Clinton campaign said yesterday that they only expected to win by 3 or 4 points, maybe . . . why would they say such a thing? lol

Obama '08

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Raphael, Lawrenceville, VA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:13:40 GMT

Okay, that is true, but you fail to mention the Zogby poll that measured Obama's chances on Saturday night. According to Saturday night's polling, Obama leads Clinton in Pennsylvania by a narrow margin of 3%, 46 to 43 percent. So, please be fair when you report the polls. I think this will be a close race, and contrary to the reports by Chris Matthews and others, Obama could even score an upset in Pennsylvania depending on turnout. The fact is that just as in Wisconsin and New Hampshire, whatever a candidate does in polling does not actually reflect the results on the day of the primary. To do stastically significant sample of voters, there would have to be at least 100,000 voters in the sample in my opinion. Anyway, if Clinton beats Obama by 5%, I would count that as a victory for Obama because he would still retain a very significant lead in pledged delegates even though Hillary would certainly pick up some superdelegates.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Grace — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:13:41 GMT

You forget...she still won't lead and will probably be even further in debt with money sources drying up. SO the big question is if you are right SO WHAT?

No one in their right mind believes that the majority of the remaining SD will back Hillary for many reason probably the most significant is "they are sick of the Clinton's". If they were going to support her they would have long ago...that would have been the easy thing to do.

Right now this is a MSM and Clinton ego driven event. The outcome won't change unless Obama implodes. While I don't believe in teflon coating he does appear to have a large base of good will or just people who hate the Clinton's.

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Kathy — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:17:43 GMT

IN MY OPINION THE REASON WHY THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES AND SUPER DELEGATES HAVE NOT RALLIED BEHIND SENATOR CLINTON IS BECAUSE THEY THINK….SENATOR OBAMA- IF NOMINATED WILL EASILY BEAT SENATOR MCCAIN, SO THEY ARE HEDGING THEIR BETS. THEY THINK THAT WITH THE ECONOMY AND THE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS IN THE SHAPE THAT IT IS IN, COMBINED WITH HIS AGE---THAT HE WILL BE AN EASY TARGET COME NOV. THUS THEY FEEL WITH SENATOR OBAMA’S APPEAL TO THE YOUNGER VOTER AND THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTER, THE DEMOCRATIC S HAVE A TREMENDOUS CHANCE OF TAKING THE WHITE HOUSE IN 08. I BELIEVE, THERE REASONING IS FLAWED…FIRST, LIKE IT OR NOT, THE REPUBLICANS WILL RALLY BEHIND SENATOR MCCAIN, EVEN WITH MIS-GIVING’S. SECOND, THOUGH IT MAY “APPEAR” THAT THE REPUBLICANS DON’T CARE IF THEY LOOSE THE WHITE HOUSE IN 08, DON’T BET THE FARM ON IT….I DON’T DOUBT FOR A MOMENT THAT THERE ARE SO VERY MANY SECRETS, SECRET DEALS AND HAPPENINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE PAST 8 YEARS….UNKNOWN TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN NO WAY GOING TO RISK THESE BEING EXPOSED. SENATOR MCCAIN, KNOWS GOING INTO THIS, AS DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THAT HE, IF ELECTED WILL SERVE A ONE YEAR TERM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS AGE IF NOTHING ELSE. THUS A STRONG, APPEALING VICE-PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE WILL ALLOW THE PARTY TO POSITION ITSELF FOR THE 0-12 ELECTIONS. FOLKS, YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST HOW THE REPUBLICANS WIN ELECTIONS…THIS SCENARIO IS NOT UNREALISTIC. IN ORDER FOR SENATOR OBAMA TO BEAT SENATOR MCCAIN, HE WILL NOT ONLY NEED ALL HIS EXISTING SUPPORT, BUT THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF SENATOR CLINTONS FOLKS, ALONG WITH A MAJORITY OF THE SO-CALLED REAGAN DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS….A MIGHTY TASK TO ASSUME. I SAY THIS NOT BECAUSE I AM AGAINST SENATOR OBAMA, I SAY THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN GAME-PLAN. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, SENATOR OBAMA IS INTELLIGENT, ABLE, AND SINCERE….BUT HE BRINGS THE REV WRIGHT ALONG WITH HIM, AND THE “ILL-PLACED” COMMENT OF HIS WIFE ABOUT “FINALLY BEING PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN” AND THE REPUBLICANS WILL POUND HIM TO DEATH ON THIS ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES. PLUS THE FACT THAT HIS RESUME’ IS SHORT ON EXPERIENCE. WHILE SENATOR CLINTON HAS HER FAULTS, SHE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THE REPUBLICAN ATTACK MACHINE MOST ALL HER LIFE AND I BELIEVE SHE IS IN A BETTER POSITION TO HANDLE THE ONSLAUGHT OF THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY COME NOVEMBER… SO AS JACK CAFFERTY WOULD SAY....WHAT ARE SENATOR OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS GOING TO SAY OR FEEL, SHOULD HE WIN THE NOMINATION BUT LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION? AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOKED FORWARD TO A CLINTON SHOWDOWN COME NOVEMBER-------NOW ---THEY PRAY FOR SENATOR OBAMA. FOLKS WAKE-UP, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SENATOR OBAMA WILL NOT WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE, IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT AS PRESIDENT COME 08, YOU'D BEST PUT ASIDE YOUR PERSONAL DISLIKE OF SENATOR CLINTON AND SUPPORT HER NOMINATION. I DO NOT SAY THIS SOLELY AS A SUPPORTER OF HERS, I SAY THIS WITH A INNER GUT FEELING, THAT SHE IS OUR ONLY CHANCE TO WIN, PLEASE CONSIDER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE.

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chuck, richmond, tx — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:19:07 GMT

Chuck, she was up 20 a couple of weeks ago. I noticed that any mention of that was conspicuously absent from your "objective report." How absurd! Your report seems to say that it appears as though Clinton will win Pennsylvania. DUH!!!!!! That's been obvious for months. What's clear is that Obama has narrowed the gap considerably and likely will get it inside double digits. That seemed like a pretty tall mountain to climb a couple of weeks ago considering all the negative press Obama has received of late.

You guys at msnbc really do like the "race", don't you? It really must be exciting to you to perpetuate this myth that the Democratic nomination is still a "contest". That's just 1 reason for perpetuating the myth that the nomination hasn't yet been decided. The other is that you guys like it that the heat isn't on "your guy", John McCain.

As long as Hillary continues to side w/ McCain and Bush against Obama, McCain isn't really a target. You like that. The last thing you want is for Democrats to start attacking McCain b/c it will destroy the image you've created of him being a "maverick" and prove to the world that electing him would be the same as a 3rd Bush-term. You guys love McCain too much to allow that to happen.

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Shoot those messengers! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:20:18 GMT

Barack Obama seemed puzzled. Angrily puzzled. The apostle of hope seemed flummoxed by the audacity of the question. At the April 16 Philadelphia debate.
SaY what? Me answer questions?
I am the next shrub in charge and I am the protected one, how dare the big bad media ask me hard stuff. Where are my media BFF'S? You are supposed to hit Hillary for me so I can stay ABOVE THE FRAY!!!

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PA IS CLINTON COUNTRY! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:24:09 GMT

You bet your sweet bippie!

Clinton 51%

BO 39%

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Dorothy Brooks, Waterford Wisconsin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:24:49 GMT

W0w! What an interesting analysis! There is a lot of information there. I hope it points to a Clinton win, because I truly believe that Obama cannot win the general election. He has too many shady relationships that are difficult to explain and that seem to form a pattern. The Republicans will not let it lie.

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MARGARET YEAGER HUBBARD OHIO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:26:30 GMT

PLEASE VOTE FOR HILLARY! I WORKED FOR DELPHI PACKARD RETIRING IN 1999 AFTER 30 YEARS! AS I LOOK BACK THE BEST BOSS I HAD WAS A WOMAN! I AS A WOMAN I WASN'T SURE ABOUT HAVING A WOMAN AS A BOSS BUT SHE WAS FAIR TO EVERYONE! I FEEL IF THERE WERE MORE WOMAN BOSSES DELPHI MIGHT NOT BE IN THE POSITION THEY ARE NOW IN!! PLEASE LET'S GIVE HILLARY THE CHANCE TO PUT OUR COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT TRACK!

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Roxie Pruitt — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:31:22 GMT

Of course Clinton will win, change is not going to come that easily. Since we were not smart enough to know what Bush would bring, I do not think we have learned our lesson, Same old, same old.

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Lee — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:32:32 GMT

Please PA voters, if you are for Hillary stay home - we need to end this race have our nomination by April 22nd - Barack Obama. There is no way Hillary can win - time to end the madness!

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JTS — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:33:21 GMT

Don't you pundits get tired of punditting?

Instead of splitting America into categories like purple-Christian-kite-flying-lefthanded-knitters, why don't you try something new? Why don't you try some policy analysis? Yea, I know it's a lot harder than horse race coverage, and maybe some of you can't even do it, but give it a try. What about the war on drugs? What about judicial nominations? What about the death penalty?

There are many issues of concern to people. Try reporting on them and let the votes speak for themselves.

I mean have you ever stepped back and read what you've written? You think that 200,000 is some magic vote number that, in a national nomination process, is going to be significant? Get a grip -- you're suffering from election-coverage derangement.

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John, California — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:36:37 GMT

This is why I have my doubts about Obama. Can he exploit gaffes like Clinton and McCain? For example, he makes the bitter comment, and Clinton/McCain manage to get it on the front page of every newspaper and media outlet. However, Hillary is caught criticizing Moveon.org, the organization that was formed to defend her husband against impeachment charges, and Obama fails to distribute the talking points. It barely registers on Fox News, which ran several days of bitter gate. It is naive to say that issues like the economy or the Iraq war govern the election. Rather, its issues like electability and the ability to utilize the media that make a difference.

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Deborah J., Albuquerque — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:43:40 GMT

I am learning more about the Presidential candidates from European press coverage than I do from the NYC-DC media. You all tend to focus on polls and flag pins and blah-blah-blah analyis, while I actually learn something of substance from them. Hillary talked "massive retaliation" and Obama supported the Vitter amendment (protection of the second amendment) while Hillary voted against it. But, you'd never know that from the vast majority of U.S. press. Give us real food, NOT junk food!

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dm — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:44:17 GMT

On the other hand, why are so many of HRC's demographic undecided? If they are actively considering an alternative, that could spell bad news for her.

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No Obama here — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:50:55 GMT

Wouldn't you feel bad knowing your best efforts and money dont get you squat??Why would a person make himself look so foolish going after the highest job we have? Why didnt he just make a showing and spend rest on other states? Is it he thinks the world is his?He needs only to make an appearance and the movement will sweep him through it all.I am sure glad this guy thinks he isnt arrogant but he sure is scareyI hope the rest of the states are watching. These ads some proved lies and all surely negative show how he says one thing but does the political thing anyway.No newness here escept his experience.Is it true he had to take one down was shown to be so untrue?He should be ashamed .This is so pathetic. Whine they are being mean to me (sounds like his wife saying America is mean as she spends her 350,000 salery)Than he slams Hillary in the open. Hes getting desperate.

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bob, seattle, wa — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:52:08 GMT

Another way to look at the numbers: The undecideds in the pro-clinton demographics are undecided because they have serious doubts about Hillary. So they could be viewed as potential Obama voters. But what is more probable is that these undecideds will stay home.

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Michael — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:19:36 GMT

You left out that they're tied among beer drinkers at 44%....how does that play into the narritive?

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Ron J. Sonnier — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:22:50 GMT

If Clinton pulls off a 10 point advantage win in Pennsylvania she will temporarily lift the proverbial monkey off her back.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Susanne — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:24:31 GMT

Bob Johnson is in the Charlotte Observer stating that he will be an ambassador if Clinton wins.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

GG,ca — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:26:30 GMT

While your [own] commentary about the math of this election has been pretty darn good no matter who any of your readers are rooting for, I don't believe that your colleagues, the folks at MSNBC, understand how much their credibility has been damaged by their rather blatant "in the tank" positions. Watching a discussion this AM on TV about the potential victory for Obama or McCain, I suddenly realized that I could no longer trust Russert or Mathews et al..even when they talked favorably abt my candidate [McCain]. While journalists "sell" their personalities on air, like banks, their primary "product" is trust. Right now Fox news is more "trustworthy" & ladies & gentlemen of MSNBC, THAT is a very sad state of affairs for you indeed. Don't get me wrong, you're still entertaining....just not credible & that's what counts.

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P B — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:27:12 GMT

PA will go for OBAMA, I am from the King Of Prussia area and it is false to believe this state wants anything to do with Clinton, where do you poll these people?

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Judy — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:30:22 GMT

Obama is desperate now, he's attacking Hillary so badly, but Hillary didn't fight back. In fact, Obama's charactor is not as good as many thought, Obama didn't run a positive campaign as others thought, but Hillary's campaign failed to make this a big story. Hillary's aids and strategists are stupid. They should attack Obama harder and in a smarter way, especially Obama's charactor. Obama doesnt' have better charactor than Hillary, but no one noticed it yet.

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Josh, Spokane, WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:33:49 GMT

the only reason she will win pennsylvania is because most of those people are dumb enough to fall for her swift boat tactics. for instance, there are still people in this country who think obama is a muslim!!!!! these are the same kind of people who are too naive to realize that what obama said is exactly true, and more and more people are admitting that. hillary can have the inbred, religiously fanatical votes in pennsylvania. the ones who were "offended deeply" by his comments weren't gonna vote for him anyways. and 10% undecided? come on, at this point in the race if you are still undecided you don't deserve to vote anyways. do your research and find that obama is leading national polls regarding his honesty and trustworthiness, which is a helluva lot more than you can say about the other 2 jokers who are running. OBAMA '08

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John S — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:34:54 GMT

Wrong analysis. The high level of undecideds in the rurual part of the state is a plus for Obama. These are people in Hillary's core. They shouldn't be undecideds - they should be in her column - but they are not, so they are leaning toward Obama.

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Erik Alonso, Miami, FL. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:40:59 GMT

Obama’s words and stands have earned him “kind words” from Hamas. Obama would surrender in Iraq and hold talks with the Iranian regime, Hillary Clinton will never surrender in the struggle with Islamic extremists. Osama Hussein Barack is and will destry this country. Eights years of Bush and any with this Islamist undercover, would surely end America as we once knew it. Vote Hillary Clinton

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John McClure, Houston, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:42:13 GMT

ABC's close questioning of Obama on his past relationships and his belief system were entirely justified....we need to know more about who Obama is...this is critical to the decision on who the candidate will be.

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Jon, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:42:15 GMT

She has been very successful and lucky in twisting facts and feeding less intelligent and vulnerable Americans with falseholds. Remember she is definitely no pro-gun.

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Bil,l Green Cove Springs, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:43:18 GMT

Chuck - How come no mention of Clinton's polling drop from 20+% to less than 5%. Tha's the big story, not that Obama may well lose.

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Larry, Union KY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:43:46 GMT

The best way to end this marathon race and help the party get together for the fall is for PENNSYLVANIA VOTERS TO VOTE FOR BARACK. A win would place pressure on the Clinton campaign to quit dragging this thing on.

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Angie — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:44:33 GMT

Isn't it a bit ridiculous to be polling for bowlers and gun-owners votes? We've run out of ways to classify voters groups according to race, religion, gender, region, etc... so we resort to hobbies. What a joke.

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Ivan Conway — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:44:43 GMT

On your polictical calendar is Puerto Rico missing?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

David L. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:45:55 GMT

When will people realize the Obama has nothing of substance to offer and that he has no greater chance than any other politician does of "reaching across the aisle" and "changing the way things get done in Washington"? These are just empty words from Obama. He fails to explain how he expects to accomplish such a task. It's the same thing politicians have said for years.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

5 points is a loss for Hillary ... — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:46:00 GMT

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IF HILLARY ONLY WINS PA BY 5 POINTS --- THAT IS A "LOSS" BY HER OWN DEFINITION.
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New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Stewart Lowery Charlotte, NC — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:46:06 GMT

Obama has now recovered from his recent drop in the GAllup poll follwing the debate and is now back on top of Clinton after one day of traing her by 1%, to go back up by 2%, a full increase of 3% in one day.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

RS, Boulder, CO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:48:07 GMT

Hi Chuck:
The 11% undecided in the "T" (28% of PA voters) translates to 3.1% overall in PA. The undecideds in Pittsburgh (27%) and Philadelphia (45%) contribute 1.9% and 2.7% respectively. Still somewhat favorable to Senator Clinton, for sure.
Since MSNBC co-sponsored the poll, any idea on the split of newly-registered Democrats? The final tally of new voters/switchers is over 300,000 for the Democrats.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Diana, Minneapolis, MN — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:49:38 GMT

You can do it, Hillary!

Vote for intelligence and courage--vote for Hillary!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Jack Mullingworth — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:55:38 GMT

Traveling through Penn this week. I think Obama will come between 2 to 4 points. Polls normally dont poll African Americans, and College kids (who mostly have cell phones). If Hillary is Rocky, Obama is Ali he will "SHock the World!" on Tuesday. You heard it hear first.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

moses, Rancho Cucamonga, Ca. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:55:57 GMT

why aren't news anchors talking about the college votes. They are 4-1 for Obama and everyone knows that they can't be polled.
Moses

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Trev — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:56:50 GMT

Good analysis overall. I am not used to saying that about MSNBC. I am a Hillary supporter, but I do think she needs to win by at least 10 percent. Her argument is going to be about the popular vote.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Emma, Durham, NH — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:58:56 GMT

It really amazes me to see the media classify Americans as gunners and bowlers. As a foreigner I find it laughable that a country that chides itself as the greatest nation in the world settles for such mediocrity. I thought America was much greater than this. Common set a good example to the rest of the world.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Paul Winn, Kansas City, MO — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:59:05 GMT

Clinton would need to win by 20% + for her victory to really be significant. That's not going to happen. Pennsylvania won't change a thing for this race, unfortunately.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

John Ryskamp — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:59:48 GMT

One of the reasons Obama is having trouble is that his past is creeping up on him. Fitzgerald will soon indict Obama. FBI moles already have him logged in at meetings with Blagojevich and Rezko. The next obvious question: what was said at those meetings? Once these questions start getting asked, it's over for Barack.

His supporters will soon learn, to their chagrin, that he is simply part of the Rezko-Blagojevich-Obama kickback mafia. Funny, everyone in Chicago seems to know it. For example, did your readers know that it was originally Blagojevich, not Obama, that the mob had decided would be the presidential candidate? That's why Blagojevich had a lot money money in his kitty than Obama.

But then the Feds started fingering him, and so the focus switched to Obama. This group is simply feeding at the trough of the incredibly corrupt Community Redevelopment Act. This is nothing but an organized criminal enterprise trading under the name of legislation. It's a good example of how corrupt this country really is.

Obama is really just a small fish, but he's big enough to fry, especially in this race. Why do you think Hillary isn't pulling out? SOMEONE has to be the nominee when Barack gets Spitzered and has to do the perp walk.

Obama is just a hood, that's all. Just read Evelyn Pringle's wonderful investigative report in opednews on this gang of thieves:
Friday, April 18, 2008
Barack Obama - Subplots of Operation Board Games - Part I
"If Obama becomes the nominee, the Republicans will unleash a non-stop expose of Obama in the mainstream media that will make the swift boat attacks against John Kerry seem trivial. Only this time, they won't have to make lies because the truth will be on their side."

IT'S OVER FOR BARACK.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

MaryanneAZ — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:01:23 GMT

Even if Clinton could somehow pass Obama in popular vote in the next 10 contests (not remotely likely), the Party bar is the number of Delegates won by the candidate. If it were a matter of popular votes, then why bother with the Delegate selection process? In the event neither candidate reaches the magic number of Delegates needed to secure the nomination (very likely), then the Supers are to weigh in and carry one of the candidates over the top. I think people have forgotten too that the Primaries are Party contests and not the federal election. What a Party does about individual States and their primary hold dates, is a Party matter. The DNC made a silly decision not to count votes in MI and FL, but it is the Party's decision to make and to rectify or not. Obama '08 Yes, We Can!!!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

michaelinphilly — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:01:36 GMT

Obama is closing here in PA. I just got a ring at my door from the Obama campaign in the last 10 minutes. Two recent polls have her ahead by only 3% in PA WHICH IS WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR. Anyone with a cell phone is NOT polled in the polls and NEITHER are the huge numbers of new DEM registrants and the thousands of crossover Repubs...I predict an OBAMA UPSET by 2%. people have Clinton fatigue her in PA.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Kathleen Conaway, Escanaba, MI — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:01:58 GMT

I just watched the noon (Sunday) program in which you discussed politics with David Gregory and Tim Russert.One thing in particular struck home very solidly with me. I have opened myself politically and emotionally to the hope I feel with Barack Obama as I have never allowed myself to do since l968, a year in which I was too young to vote, but volunteered for Bobby Kennedy's campaign shortly before his assassination. His death, following so closely the death of M.L.King, and followed by the shockingly brutal convention in Chicago, caused a lot from our generation to cover our despair with a protective cynicism. This didn't change our social and political views, but made us starkly realistic to cynical about the possibility of such change happening. What you say about the devotion of Obama's follower's is true, and somewhat frightening to me. My moods seem to follow his successes or difficulties. I've waited so long to hear a candidate again say, "Yes, we are our brothers' keepers", that I fear I cannot disengage myself enough to view our future as a country without him as at least the candidate. Not healthy, but true nonetheless.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

V.B. Reno NV. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:04:37 GMT

You are such a loser, Chuck; she is up 54/33
among bowlers? Are you kidding? I had the
greatest respect for you when this process
started. You and David Gregory - talk about
Darwin's waiting room! I look forward to telling
my grandchildren we almost had a black president
but the bowlers couldn't see it. They will look
at me and say "grandpa, you're an idiot!" What
did you do, Chuck, phone this one in? Your
employers should dock your pay. I tune in to
you to be stimulated intellectually,not to dumb
down.

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max, philadelphia,PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:04:38 GMT

HILLARY 2008!!!!!!

www.hillaryspeaksforme.com

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ionFwC1UUUw

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Amy, Reno, NV — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:06:10 GMT

Please, Pennsylvanians, show us an upset and vote for Obama. Let's end this.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Mike, Philadelphia PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:07:16 GMT

Seriously? Bowlers are a valid demographic now?

Pennsylvania has 50,000 newly registered voters. Who is polling them? How are *they* likely to break?

How about that even if Hillary takes a 5% win, that it will only mount to a handful of delegates more than Obama? Certainly not the knockout that her own husband and Governor Rendell have said she needs, or that the superdelegates see as a requirement to back her.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

ray queens nyc — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:08:54 GMT

the polls show thAT PEOPLE ARE IN SUCH NEED of hope they was drinking the Obama kool-aid.. but now reality is setting ina nd Hillary is rising to the occassion even though she has been out spent and her campaign mismanaged he just cant close the deal and put this thing away and that my friends is very telling about how far people are willing to go with Obama and his message of hope and change, those are slogans and without clear meanings the vaugeness of his slogans are losing the impact they once had

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

ray queens nyc — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:09:03 GMT

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

G W — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:09:24 GMT

Hillary will take Pa by at least 10 points if she doesn't you might as well stick a fork in her she is done.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

John Mayer, Knoxville TN — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:14:12 GMT

“The poll of 625 likely Dem primary voters was conducted Thursday and Friday and showed Clinton leading Obama 48-43%. Considering the 4% margin of error, it means Clinton's lead is inside the margin.“

Okay, I have to admit I’m no mathematician, but how does this “margin of error” thing work. Wouldn’t 48 be FIVE more than 43, placing that score OUTSIDE the margin of error? Or are we to assume that either result could be off by four points? That way, Obama could win 47-44. But it also means Clinton might win by a whopping 52-39. That would mean the possible range of win margins could be anywhere from 3 to 13. Surely polling is more precise than that. Isn’t it?

John Mayer

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

David L — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:17:58 GMT

Something that everyone seems to miss is that the Clintons aren't trying to win this primary. I think they realize it can't be won. Instead, they are using the Kneecap strategy to weaken Obama so that he loses against McCain so that they can say we told you so and run in 2012.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

T. Man — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:21:42 GMT

Bowlers? Are you kidding? Do you mean bowling-ball bowlers, football bowlers, or punchbowl bowlers? In any case, I didn't know that bowlers were such an important political category! It must be a slow news day.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

John P. Teschke Long Beach, California — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:22:03 GMT

May be the undecided voters are natural clinton supporters repelled by her Karl Rove style tactics who are more loyal to the party than the Clintons. If that's the case, they may break against the hostile takeover presented by the Billary effort.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

alex Shundi — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:22:50 GMT

What does bowling and owning a gun or drinking a beer have to do with the exigencies that a person must meet in heading the government of the gratest power on earth? Intelligence, integrity, honesty, dynamism,
inspiration, and compassion should be the main requirements. A "populist" is very nice, but please, let's hold the leader of our country on a higher standard. We should choose someone with the ability to lissen, make informed and intelligence choices, be cultured and EXTRAORDINARY, not ORDINARY.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Mark Brown, Portland OR — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:23:51 GMT

Considering Clinton hasn't increased her lead and may, in fact, have lost ground; sounds like negative attacks don't work with Democrats and Independents. That's very positive, so stop it already. They need to stop letting the media inject controversy for the entertainment value and ratings.

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Janice, Bowling Green, KY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:23:59 GMT

How can so many voters ignore the Clintons' dishonesty and unethical behavior? Since the Clintons have a long history of lying, how can anybody trust Hillary to honor any campaign promises? For one thing, Bill Clinton has not refrained from his unethical business deals with foreign countries while his wife has been a Senator and presidential candidate, so we could expect this conflict of interest to continue if they were in the White House.

However, I don't expect the Clintons to reach the White House. The media have been quiet about the Clinton scandals, but the Republicans will not be quiet this fall. There is even recent info which they would use against the Clintons. For example, Jerry Zeifman has been publicizing his past knowledge of Hillary during the time of the Nixon impeachment. Zeifman says that Hillary is "ethically unfit to hold public office." His story can be read at www.Jzeifman.com

Also, the news media could have been kind enough to inform voters that Bill Clinton will be on trial for civil fraud before the end of the year. That is the case of Paul V. Clinton ET AL. Consider how embarrassing that would be for the USA, if by some fluke Hillary were the presidential nominee at that time.

Voters, we deserve better than this!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Victor Usu, chicago, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:24:47 GMT

Thanks for the biased analysis Mr. Chuck Clinton Todd. I see that it is becoming increasingly difficult for you to hide your prejudiced. I am now convinced that you must be on the Clinton’s payroll. The day you offend them, they will chew you up and spew you out like they have done to others. Good luck to you.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Yes we can — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:27:06 GMT

Big surprise coming on Tuesday. People are not single issue voters anymore. They are weighing what is best for the country. People are seeing through the empty rhetoric, looking at the issues, and judging character and leadership. After they do this, the winner is obvious. Obama and Richardson. Yes we can.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

analog guy — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:27:55 GMT

What percentage of 'likely' voters use cell phones, exclusively, to field their verbal communications? Do the polls call cell phone users? If not, is that a possible reason for the incredible range in poll results? Seems that a large young person turnout might upset the polls if this is true. I, for one, am having a problem trusting any poll. I recall First Read reporting on a poll that was uncannily accurate for So. Car. and others. Does anyone recall who this was?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Adrianne O'Connor — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:30:06 GMT

Can David Gregory have some new faces on his show. We listen to Joe Scarbourgh for 3 hours in the morning (or the part I can listen to before work) and I know what he is going to say the moment I see his face. I don't know if I can still be tuning in every night.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

James Griffin, East Peoria, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:32:23 GMT

It's really too bad. You've got all these poor and in many cases poorly educated people who believe that Hillary Clinton is going to help them if they vote for her, and nothing could be further from the truth.

The sum total of Hilly's interest in the people of Pennsylvania amounts to margin of victory and the ground she could possibly gain in the popular vote count. After that her interest will continue should she somehow miraculously manage to win the nomination (and given the Clinton's deep and well stocked bag of dirty tricks you can never really count them out) though the general election when she will (Again) want support from PA. After that, she's done with them.

If she loses she goes back to the Senate (where she doesn't even help the New Yorkers she's supposed to be representing), if she actually wins, she'll forget all of the people who put her in, within 30 seconds of mouthing (Because that's all it is when you don't really MEAN the words you are speaking) the oath of office.

Help them? Well if you consider having a universal health care plan that's deducted from your paycheck just like taxes and SSI to be HELP, then OK! But for people who can't make ends meet now, having yet MORE of their money taken to fund yet ANOTHER federal bureaucracy is probably not going to work out real well for them.

Jobs? PLEASE, Hilly and Willy are the ones who brought you the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). How did that work out for you? She's NOT going to save anyones job, she's NOT going to save anyones home. What she WILL do is sell out every one of us to the highest bidder. U.S. Corporations or Foreign Government, it just doesn't matter as long as they pay.

And frankly I'm STUNNED that after all the revelations that came to light about the Clinton's during Slick Willy's administration, They STILL have a chance to crawl back into the White House. Chinagate, Travelgate, Monika, Whitewater (and the swindle worked by making the old folks FORFEIT the property if they missed or were late on just ONE (1) payment), and the plethora of crimes and outrages they committed would have landed any ordinary person in a federal prison for the rest of their lives.

But the Clinton's are extraordinary people. When it comes to criminal intellect, they should be the poster children for it. NOBODY does it better. But the American people should at least know them for what they are and do everything in our power to keep them from any position where they could cause our country further harm. And the good people of Pennsylvania would do well to consider the consequences of lending their support to this disingenuous, carpetbagging woman.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Doug W., New York, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:32:51 GMT

If the media did its job, voters would know that Senator Clinton cannot win the nomination unless the superdelegates overturn the will of the people. Even with Florida counted, she has lost in popular vote, delegate count, and states won. Someone as reputable as Chuck Todd needs to pound this into people's heads so that they make an informed vote. Senator Obama is the nominee. The only question is, how much will Sen. Clinton and the media bruise him before November?

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Brits Donossian — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:36:25 GMT

Smooth talking, elusive Obama could probably talk himself into a win in Pennsylvania had he had a little more time. Now he has only two days left and a win for him is as elusive as he himsef is. Nothwithstanding, he is an elitist, racist, condescending candidate, he also has a lot of baggage that need to be rummaged through. He has been allowed by the leftist media loonies to fly under the radar for very long. Will the real Obama please stand up! It will not be a pretty picture. He definitely is not a gift to America as he seems to think!

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Tariq Ahmed — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:26 GMT

20+ points lead GONE !
Same happened in TEXAS.
Result OBAMA won Delegates.
Time for CLINTONS TO FOLD THEIR TENT AND GO HOME.

OBAMA09

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Stefan Nilsson, Stockholm, Sweden — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:30 GMT

There are three good reasons for why Obama will be a formidable Democratic nominee for president. He has a strong grassroot appeal, the best economic program and is the only candidate who was against the war in Iraq from the start.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Susan Grand Rapids MI — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:43:07 GMT

Maybe those T-Voters won't vote for Obama but it sounds like they can't stand Clinton either.
What guy who drives around in his red pick up with his gun and bumper sticker that says " Jesus Loves Hunters" is going to cast a vote for of all people Hillary Clinton??? These are Republicans. Rural voters to Clinton are " screw 'em"
She said that and they remember.

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Coke Drinker — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:46:54 GMT

A survey of Bowlers? Lets not overlook the more important demographics, people who knit, drink Pepsi vs. Coke and watched NBC's pilot of NightRider. NBC must be planning to bring back the Pro Bowlers tour.

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Mike — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:50:16 GMT

Well...Alabama between Philly and Pitt...what would one expect?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

T. Reavell, Kirkland WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:52:11 GMT

I wonder if the polls included the newly registered Democrats and turncoat Republicans? Don't you think that Obama will get the lion's share of this demographic?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

kelly slater,langley,wa. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:55:22 GMT

You GO girl!!!!

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Jane Lloyd, Taylorsville, NC — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:58:48 GMT

The TV ad assault to which Sen. Obama is subjecting the people of Pennsylvania and the enormous amount of money he's spending there hasn't changed Sen. Clinton's lead so far, and I don't think it will. Trying to buy votes in this way is the politics of the past. Pennsylvanians aren't for sale.

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Tina D — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:00:46 GMT

Chuck, thank you for being fair, you are the only one on MSNBC that just tells it like it is. I know this must be difficult on MSNBC where it is Obama 24/7.

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Buzzinski — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:01:16 GMT

What? Bowlers and gun owners?? What about a poll of Scottie-dog owners, and guys that hate dandelions in their lawns? What about ketchup vs. mustard folks?? Etc. Etc. Etc......
If special interest groups have this much sway over someting this important, I hate to even think about the 'plain-vs-peanut' sector!

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Dutchboy52 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:03:46 GMT

The media is starting to feel sorry for Hillary again, sounds and looks like they're coming to her rescue again. If Obama wins, that means he beat Hill, Bill, Chel, McCain and the media....I guess he'll be vetted then, thanks guys, I'm sure Obama will thank you in the end, he's that kind of guy.

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Jacklyne Catoran — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:03:56 GMT

Role Model for Children - Obama

A few days ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?

Also, Obama's state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayers who advocates the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb - Obama.

Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last one standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.

If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:
Wright
Meeks
Ayers
Abongo "Roy" Obama
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Hamas
McPeaks
Rezko
Auchi

And the list goes on...

This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?

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Jim, the Mississippi Delta — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:04:30 GMT

So Clinton is going to blow out Obama in PA because of undecided bowlers and gun owners. Is this a great a country or what?

New Pa. poll has Clinton holding lead

Peter W., Norwood, MA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:12:21 GMT

I agree that Hillary will carry Pennsylvania, probably by 5 to 7 percentage points. It won't make much of a dent in Obama's overall delegate lead though.

On May 5th I think he'll finally bring an end to this contest with knockout blows in North Carolina (by 10+ points) and Indiana (by 5 to 7 points).

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Debra L, Bothell WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:17:02 GMT

Is this insane that we are now subcatagorizing BOWLERS? I can see gun owners as they tend to be a more conservative salt of the earth group, but why not BIRD WATCHERS, PING PONG Players and Video gamers? It's getting to where they need to divide up each person into a half dozen sub groups to come up with their polling which will undoubtedly be wrong by a long shot.

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Bubbi Smith — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:18:31 GMT

All well and good, but remember, she had a 20 point lead some time ago, so if these #'s are correct, Obama overcame a huge lead in a reasonable time. To much negativity has hurt her credibility.

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Joe Deer, Lake Worth — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:21:38 GMT

To Kevin First to post at 9:19 am this morning: On the same Gallup poll Obama is now up, what do you have to say about that? Her post debate bounce is over. Bye Bye Hillary, now watch her try to link Obama to Hitler before Tuesday night.