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Selina, Wilmington, Delaware — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:44:35 GMT

Costs are cheaper if everyone is covered. But you also have to limit what will be paid to big Pharam. What everyone is failing to realize is that we're paying for the other countries too. Since their governments will only pay so much for medicines, Big Pharma is passing the cost off to us. Along with the advertising costs they are not allowed to charge in other countries. I can't see our government changing or denting that.

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Keith in PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:45:33 GMT

Look up "bull" and you'll find Bill Clinton's picture. Hillary said herself on This Week that she'd garnish people's wages. Her new "chief strategist" admitted as much on Meet the Press. Bill is the master of bull.

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Michelle Zee I'll take Obama's backpack over Clinton's suitcaseS! — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:49:23 GMT

Bill, she said she will garnish folks wages and she is clearly not pushing reducing costs of her healthcare. If the Americans don't agree with her costs, they don't have a vote; remember she worked it behind closed doors last time and nothing happened.

There are too many children in society who does not have medical, because the parents feel they are young and are most likely not to get sick. Maybe 15-20 years ago that was accurate, but times have changed.
Our children are getting sicker earlier and are not covered, so they are sicker and many of the illnesses they attract; carry over into adulthood.

In the military children are covered until 21 and until age 23 if they are still in college, so why shouldn't the rest of America have the same thing?

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Michael — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:49:27 GMT

"everybody'll be able to afford it" That's easy for the Clintons to say. I don't think they understand the some people have no spare money, regardless of how inexpensive the Clintons think it will be.

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voter — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:27 GMT

Not true. In MA, they adopted Hillary's plan for mandates and subsidies. The resources for the subsidies were not as available as people predicted due to budget problems. the subsidies decreased and people had to pay more to make up the difference. People who could not afford it had to pay a fine. Eventually, people did not have the money for the fines so 20% of the people of MA are not covered or have to pay the fine because they cannot afford it. This will happen in Hillary's plan. It is unfair to garnish people's wages when they are in a limited budget. It is not their fault they cannot afford insurance. The prices are too high. If it is affordable, people will buy it.

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Sue, Elyria, OH — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:53:39 GMT

My question for Bill....What are the guidelines and the premium costs to US?? He says BULL; I say how so. I have health insurance and the my premiums have increased 172% since 2001. What would my premium be under Hillary's plan? How will it be paid for?
I KNOW that Barack Obama will cut my premiums by $2,500. What about the Clintons? I am a 42 year white woman with 4 children in Northeastern Ohio with an annual income of $46,000 yearly and the $2,500 tax credit will improve my personal and my families quality of life enormously!! What are the Clintons offering??? I don't know. MORE SECRETS....DECLARATIONS They continue to say their plan is better but never tell us the details.

Enough of the 90's which resulted in the decline of the morality in the United States of America headed by these 2 Powerful families....the Clintons and the Bushs

ENOUGH

It's time the government got back in the business of working FOR THE PEOPLE!

WIN PA BARACK

I am HOPEFUL that Americans across this great country see a clear CHOICE More of the same or CHANGE

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Frank, Missouri — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:54:36 GMT

Yes, the 'mandate' means that the people have to buy health care - HAVE TO, if not there will be some consequences.

A mandate is "authoritative command or instruction". Get it, Billary ?

It's not a 'mandate for the government to provide affordable health care', is it ?

We are not THAT stupid !

Or does it depends on what the definition of 'is' is ?

Again, Bubba ?

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Mitch Wright, Denver — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:55:34 GMT

You gotta get it through Congress, and I think Obama's plan is far more likely to get enacted.

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nuanced — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:56:45 GMT

Bill & Hillary may be right but I think the politics are such that government mandates of salary garnishing will just kill the Democratic nominee in the general election once the RNC, McCain, the Karl Rove playbook, the Swiftboat types and the medical-industrial complex attacks. I think Hillary painted herself into a corner when she tried to out do Baracks plan.

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Pete - Albany, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:56:55 GMT

Enjoy having your wages garnished!

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donna, pgh., pa. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:57:49 GMT

Pennsylvanians don't need Bill to define what, and what is not bull. You're right Bill, this is about our future. As the Newsweek article I read this morning stated, the party leaders, and most dems have Clinton fatigue. You Clintons are not the future. You are the past. The dreary past.

Obama '08

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Scabs, Political Herpes, free med ""Right" — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:04:55 GMT

Yea Right, Bill's picking the "Scabs" on his butt! His political herpes is inflamed! Nothing is free and the rich are getting richer and the poor are sick of being poor!!! America had enough of his filth and now the other half wants to infect the minds of creating some thing called free medical! How stupid do they think we are?

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Tim, Peoria, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:05:30 GMT

How is it 'Universal' if there is no way to enforce all to have coverage??

Who's spewing the 'BULL' Bill?

As a healthacre worker, I'm more concerned with whether any of this 'Universal' coverage will come close to covering costs. Hospitals are getting creamed by declining reimbursement. Will there be enough facilities left standing to care for our growing numbers of elderly?

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Baileigh — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:08:12 GMT

Why, then, did Hillary Clinton fail miserably to do anything about health care reform when this was her primary task in the Bill Clinton administration in the 1990s? Her husband was President, they had the majority in the house and senate, but Hillary's health care reform failed. She had her opportunity, and she blew it.

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Heather, WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:08:52 GMT

Hillary "I'll garnish their wages" Clinton doesn't have the credibility to tell me how she'll fix our healthcare crisis because I already know...I've been waiting 15 years for that plan to come through. How does she plan on driving down the cost when she is owned by every major lobbyist from the health insurers to the pharmacuetical industry?
Her campaign strategist made it very clear today on MTP, that the folks working in a Clinton administration will have to accept her policies wholeheartedly or they won't be working for her. So, there won't be any room for honest discourse in a Clinton administration...Hill's way or the highway it would seem. It's that kind of unwillingness to listen to all sides, even the ones we disagree with, that has kept us from getting what we, the people are demanding. This has been Hillary's achilles heel for years, her inablity to be flexible, negotiate or work with others who don't agree with her. I want a president who's policies aren't set in stone but who can and will work for and in the best interest of the people. Mandates or not!!

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Jennifer Hunt, Spokane, WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:11:40 GMT

I want stable reliable employment, with real decency concerning pay, and the ability to stay employed for long periods of time, and healthcare plans, and retirement.

Give us those options back and better than ever, and a variety of them too PLEASE:)):P

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A Latte Lover, Seattle, WA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:14:08 GMT

He paraphrased the claims in Obama’s ad, saying, “‘Oh, it’s the end of the world. Oh, you’re gonna be forced to buy health care you can’t afford.’” He quickly added: “That’s bull. The only way you can afford it over the long run is that everyone is covered.”

So Bill, you prove Obama's point. By saying "the only way you can afford it over the long run is that everyone is covered" What if someone does not want it??? What happens then? What if one cannot afford it?? Garnish wages???? No thank you.

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Sally Walerton — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:16:33 GMT

Role Model for Children – Obama

A few days ago Obama gave the ‘finger’ to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?

Also, Obama’s state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayers who advocate the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb – Obama.

Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last on standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.

If this isn’t enough, look at Obama’s affiliations:
Wright
Meeks
Ayers
Abongo “Roy” Obama
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Hamas
McPeaks
Rezko
Auchi

And the list goes on…

This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?

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Paul, Washington, DC — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:17:33 GMT

It's all fair Bill and Hillary. We all know that the Republicans are going to attack Hillary again and again on the mandate issue. I can see the ads now, people being forced to buy health insurance, even if they can't afford it. We might as well vet Hillary now. (Sounds familiar Clintonistas).

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Cindy Doe, Austin, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:19:04 GMT

Robert Reich is a professional. He likes Obama's health plan better than Hillary's. Hers does not include enough money to fund. Sound familiar? Bill is out of touch.

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Sue, Elyria, OH — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:20:38 GMT

Below is the question I directed to Hillary website on her BLOG. I am awaiting an answer.
"I hear Hillary talk about National Health Care for all Americans. I have taken the time to come here to her website to find out specifics but I can not. There is the same political fluff that Americans need to have affordable health care but when you look for a financial guidelines used to determine the cost to the American people I can not find one.

I am trying to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt with her tactics of last, I do not want to go negative here but would like for her campaign to give me answers.

Please tell us- The American people what we should expect to pay for this great plan and who is going to benefit from it. The names of the Insurance companies included in this plan.

I now leave the ball in your court. Now sell me on your plan with specific finanacials.

Thank you"

It will be interesting to see whether they post my question on the BLOG. They censor quite a bit over there. I am a Democrat in OH and feel Hillary needs to be more specific about her Health Care Plan. If she was truly an effective negotiator, The American citizens would already have affordable Heath Care in the U.S

No one choosing to remember Hillary is the reason we do not. It had to be her way or no way ..... and we all know how that turned out.

Once again the Clintons want us to forget about the all the negatively the brought to US Democrats in the 90's and want us to remember the prosperity. Let's remember who it was prosperous for....she authorized a war, voted for a credit card sponsored Bankruptcy reform act hoping it would not pass, helped her husband pass NAFTA but really did not think it was a good idea.......she is constantly giving into Peer Pressure and not standing up for US. The middle class who does not make over $250,000

Repulsive that she thinks the only reason we are supporting Barack is that we are easily influenced. I think Senator Clinton it is time you look in the mirror

BARACK WIN PA AND END THIS PRIMARY SILLY SEASON

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g.eglesias`pennsylvania` — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:28:46 GMT

Obama's plan leaves 15 million Americans uninsuried, "if Obama can't insure every american, then he really does'nt have a health care plan. Then he uses the excuse, "well everybody can't afford health insurance".--Well Duh-- That's the problem with health care we have right now! And his plan isn't any better than what we have right now. With Hillary's Plan she will provide subsidies and provide Health Care for every American period. Every Human Being needs Health Care, And they should have it!

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Bruce, Queens, New York — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:29:57 GMT

Evidence that Obama is not the change maker he promised because:

Issue #1- Is Obama truthful?

1. He started his campaign stating that he vote against the war, evidence shoes that he didn’t vote, he made a speech
2. During the 21st debate he was asked about an answer he had written in a questionnaire, he denied it and that denial was a lie
3. Obama said he is not for negative campaigning, yet he has had many surrogates attack Clinton in a very personal way, not on her policies, starting with an online web add which was very negative and when asked about it he said his campaign is not responsible for it, however after a few days of investigation it was found that a member of his campaign was the creator and the person who posted, Obama gave this guy a chance to resign and helped him get a job with Bill-Judas Richardson’s campaign.
4. He said that he only received about $100,000.00 from Tony Rezko and that he gave the money to charity, then it was discovered that he received about $250,000.00 how could he not be aware of receiving $150,000.00 more, which tells me that he didn’t return that part of the money.
5. He keeps misleading everyone about his health care plan-that is also a premeditated lie.
6. He never heard Jeremiah Wright make prejudicial comments, when in fact he didn’t want him to deliver a speech because he “gets a little rough”
7. He said that Clinton complained about the media being unfair-if she did she didn’t do it to say “why are you being tough on me”, she was trying to say that the media was not professional by almost campaigning for him while attacking her. Therefore I believe that the 21st debate was the most well balanced in that respect, and addressed issues that we were all curious, we already heard about their other plans in the other 20 debates and we can also go to their websites if we still want more info regarding policies.
8. He also exaggerated his record, which is very short, and if he missed 40 % of his votes due to campaigning during his 2.5 years senatorial career, that to me means that he only has about 1.5 years experience in the senate.
Etc.
Question to voters: which is a worse lie?
a) I landed under sniper fire instead of I landed under the threat of sniper fire.
Or b) all of the above

Issue # 2 -Obama’s affiliations:
1. Tony Rezko
2. The guy from weather man-pardoning someone after almost 40 years and being associates by serving on board together, having an event at their house in your honor are very different things
3. Jeremiah Wright & Hesbolah
4. Farakhan
5. Others we don’t hear about
Truthfully if he has so many controversial associates what does that tell us about him?! Furthermore if his whole campaign is based on the idea of sound judgment, how does he explain theses associations???

Issue #3 -Is Obama a uniter?

His charitable record shows that he gave money to a black church, to black caucuses, to a dance school that I as a voter would like to know how diverse it is and I don’t…
If he wanted to be a uniter, beyond the politics of race and gender, why didn’t he join a more diverse congregation, why didn’t he give charity to more diverse groups?
There is a pattern to how Obama operates:
-he has other people attack Clinton and he appears to be above that
-he has 3 prejudicial advantages that he hasn’t acknowledged yet:
a) he has 92% of the black vote
b) he has the vote of those who don’t want to see women in position of power
c) he has the vote of people who hate the Clintons for various reasons that are not relevant in any way to the voters’ needs

Issue #4 -Personality
Obama seems to be in his element and performing well when all the people there are cheering for him, however he does very poorly when the people are asking questions he doesn’t like, this is a huge sign about his ability to handle tough situations.
In comparison Clinton has withstood the republican machine during the 90’s and the pro-Osama media machine in the last 15 months, and she is still head to head with him, what does that tell all of us about her?...

Obama had this huge advantage because all the Clinton haters campaigned for him saving huge amounts of money on air time and by helping misrepresent the facts.
The people who couldn’t maintain objectivity and professionalism are:
Jack Cafferty, Keith Oberman, Chris Matthews, Dan Abrams, almost the entire broadcast of CNN with the exception of Lou Dobbs.
In fact I feel that Jerry Springer has more journalistic credibility than any of those mentioned above.
Before New Hampshire they were beating her up on their shows almost 24 hours of every day, and Obama was in his element when they were doing that for him, and now he is crying foul…what hypocrisy????????

Issue #5 Race He sacrificed his grandmother to save Jeremiah Wright because when his mom had him people were not accepting of mixed marriages, people lived in segregated neighborhoods, even if the law didn’t impose that, so if his grandparents accepted a mixed marriage and took on the task of taking care of him that made them extraordinary not typical. Some families disowned daughters that had made the same choice as his mother did. This coupled with the bitter statement leads me to believe that he has some prejudices or stereotype of his own.

Issue #6 Obama’s Pattern of escape - Surrogates, speeches and super-delegates

When Obama wants to attack Clinton and doesn’t know how it will be received he has his surrogates do it, and this is how he doesn’t get blamed for it,
When things go bad for him in terms of public perception, he throws in a speech because in that format he can spin his previous mistake into whatever he wants without being questioned about it, because if he was questioned he would perform very poorly and we would have a better idea of who he is instead of this manufactured and inaccurate image of honesty and above the politics.
When the speech doesn’t turn things around for him he negotiates with super-delegates as he did with Bill Richardson, when he called him back from vacation to come and make a big public statement about endorsing Obama in order to divert attention from the Jeremiah Wright issue, and allowing it to die down.

I also found that most people associate being elitist with the socioeconomic status experienced while growing up, I think that these people should spend less time on TV and more reading a dictionary.

Issue # 7 - Hypocrisy at an art form- Starting with his voting record and continuing with:
Obama considers himself part of the segment of population who not too long ago had to fight for the right to vote, yet he is comfortable taking away or not counting others’ votes because those votes don’t benefit him.
In fact he took his name off the ballot in Michigan just so he could make the case of it being unfair if anyone should consider counting them.
As a voter I think Hillary should be awarded the votes and delegates whose votes she got, and Obama should receive in Florida the votes he got and none in Michigan because he chose to take his name off the ballot… That is fair.

Issue # 8
Obama called Clinton disingenuous, however he made many comments that were disingenuous, I guess he doesn’t think he should be held to the same or a higher standard-considering that his campaign’s mission statement is about being above the negative politics, he wants to be allowed a lower standard.

TRUTH TIME -politicians like lawyers, spin the truth and lie, if they are unable to do that effectively, like Obama, they are not good at what they are supposed to be doing. We all want a change from George Bush, but we don’t want someone who is good only in academic settings.

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DOLLY SAN DIEGO, CA. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:30:33 GMT

IT'S CRAZY HOW OBAMA WANTS TO CRITIZE HILARY CLINTON, BUT WHEN YOU BRING UP HIS PAST IT'S DIRTY... OR PERSONAL... WHAT ABOUT AVERY AND WRIGHT AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE WILL POP UP... IT'S NOT PERSONAL TO WANT TO KNOW THE CANDIDATE IS ALL ABOUT.... BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE MUCH IN POLITICS.... AT LEAST HILARY HAS DONE MISTAKES AND BELIEVE YOU LEARN BY YOUR MISTAKES..... HE DONE ALOT OF MISTAKES, BUT BRING UP IT'S PERSONAL.... WHY DOES HE WANT TO HIDE HIS ASSOCIATES SO MUCH... THERE MORE THERE THEN WE KNOW.... AMERICA BE AWARE--- HE'S NOT ALL HE CLAIMS TO BE!!!!

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Gerry, Vancouver, Canada — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:30:55 GMT

Hill and Bill tell stories about bull and manure.That is their area of expertise.
MSNBC, I JUST CHECKED THE GALLUP FOR APRIL 20 AND OBAMA IS AHEAD AGAIN BY 2 POINTS. NOW SEEING THAT YOU GAVE HILL A HEADLINE WHEN SHE WAS AHEAD BY 1POINT FOR ONE DAY. I THNINK THAT THIS IS WORTHY OF A HEADLINE ALSO
WHO CHOOSES YOUR HEADLINES? HILIARY? OR BILL?

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Fed up with Hillary — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:37:43 GMT

I'm sure that Hillary Health will be run as efficiently as Social Security and Medicare. No thank you I don't need another piece of my salary taken from me and dumped into a federal program that is going to lose money over the long run. Let me paraphrase Bill for all of you. If you are poor and you can't afford health insurance don't worry we won't take the money out of your pocket . . . what does this mean for the rest of us? We are going to be the ones paying higher premiums to cover all of the people who don't have to pay. Vote no on Hillary Health. Vote no on mandated health insurance. Vote no on the government garnishing your wages. Send a message to Washington we are sick of you dipping into the bank of the American taxpayer. Vote for anyone but Hillary.

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Randy E (SC) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:40:25 GMT

Guess Bill is freelancing again. He contradicts Hillary who admits there will be garnishing, go through taxes or some other "enforcement mechanism":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e18Qa56tMBU

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Screwed Again, Interncourse, PA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:41:02 GMT

There's "bull" in this all right and it's coming from Bill Clinton as usual. A "mandated" health plan implies "forced" participation. How do you enforce the mandate? Wage garnishees, property liens, denial of service? Pray tell us, Bill!

Hopefully, after Tuesday, this whole thing will be over because if it goes on much longer, the Democratic Party is finished in this election cycle. Who would have thought they could shoot themselves in the foot once again.

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NinaK — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:41:09 GMT

Good Old Bill Clinton so badly wants to return to the White House for what he must believe would be his third term. He obviously believes Americans have a servere case of short memory. What I remember of the Clinton days are the many scandals they brought with them from Arkansas and the many they created while he was President. I remember the shame they brought to the Office of the Presidency, the Oval Office, the White House, the United States of American and its citizenry. Thanks Bill, we do not want you and your lying wife back in the White House. The era of the babyboomers has come and gone, and that includes you and Hillary. The new generations want new leadership,integrity, honesty, wisdom, vision, and the ability to move forward; we want change and hope to raise America to new heights of integrity, honesty, and "A GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND OF THE PEOPLE"! Senator Obama is the ONLY one who can lead us in this much needed direction. I am a 64 year old female and I embrace Senator Obama wholeheartedly!!

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NinaK — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:41:59 GMT

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Deward Bowles, Houston, Texas — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:45:25 GMT

Uhhhh lets do a fact check then.

A Clinton interview with ABC News in February, where she was pressed on how she would enforce the mandate. She said, "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment." That led to the Obama campaign's claim that people would be subject to a penalty if they did not sign up for coverage.

Clinton should certainly be pressed to be more specific about how she would enforce her proposed mandate.

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Jon, TX — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:46:00 GMT

This guy will always say things that are contrary to his wife's intentions. Yes he will also say anything that is contrary to his wife's stances in order to help her win by deception. This reminds me of "I didn't have sex with that woman (Monica)".

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Andrew Engel — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:46:45 GMT

It's not bull. There are people with no health insurance and no spare income. They're not all poor - they might have debts, mortgages, etc., etc. - so they're not all going to get subsidies.

So what's Clinton saying? That these people don't exist? That they're NOT going to have a mandate? That they're going to give free health care to everyone with a large mortgage?

I'm not saying everyone shouldn't have health insurance, but jumping into a mandate IS going to cause some people serious financial problems. You can argue that's a necessary cost, but you can't deny it.

So if Clinton wants to say people aren't going to be forced to buy health care they can't afford, she should come out and say exactly how she'd enforce a mandate that wouldn't mean just that...

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Kim Maine — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:50:28 GMT

"Over the long run" so what he is staying is yes you will be forced to buy health care, but your really lucky and fall into the right percentile of income that they submit, you MIGHT get compensation. Maybe this is something we could have heard more about in that "debate"

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JOE GA — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:53:28 GMT

THE CLINTONS ARE LIARS. BILL CLINTON IS A LIAR AS WELL AS HIS WIFE. CANT WAIT TO SEE THEM BOTH ON THE STAND IN CA. TRIAL WITH PETER PAUL. THEY BOTH CLAIMED IN 2000 ELECTION FOR SENATOR HE GAVE 1000 TO HER CAMPAIGN. I HAVE SEEN THE WHOLE VIDEO OF HIS BENIFET FOR HER WHEN HE GAVE HER 2.1 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THE PHONE CALL HE RECEIVED FROM HER THANKING HIM FOR ALL HE DID TO MAKE SO MUCH MONEY. THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE OTHERS IN THE ROOM BECAUSE IT WAS VIDEOED SO OTHERS COULD HEAR IT.

SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE ELECTION COMM. WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 2 MILLION DOLLARS SHE RECEIVED? ID LOVE TO BE THERE TO SEE HER REACTION TO THE QUESTIONS FROM THE PAULS LAWYERS.

THERE HAVE BEEN TO MANY THINGS WITH THE CLINTONS THAT ARE SHADY AND SOMEDAY IT WILL ALL COME OUT LIKE HOW MUCH BILL WAS PAID BY THE GOV. OF DUBAI AND FROM HIS HELP WITH THE CANADIAN BUSINESS MAN BILL WENT WITH TO ONE OF THE FORMER RUSSION RUPUBLIC COUNTRIES THAT MADE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE CANADIAN. WONDER HOW MUCH BILL WAS PAID? HOW MUCH WAS GIVEN FOR HIS LIBRARY IN AK? HOW THEY HAVE MADE OVER 109 MILLION DOLLARS IN 7 YEARS? SOUNDS A LITTLE SHADY TO ME. THEY DONT CALL HIM SLICK WILLY FOR NOTHING

SO I DONT BELIEVE EITHER ONE OF THEM, ITS NO WONDER HER NEGS ARE SO HIGH AND WHY SHE WONT BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

I THINK SHE IS A HASBEEN.

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Rob — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:55:39 GMT

The Clinton legacy will surely be defined by this election. Unfortunately it will be very closely aligned with the Bush/Rove attack machine of the new millennium.

The key word is positive and the Clinton campaign has no concept.

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Terry, Great Plains — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:55:49 GMT

Bill what is a mandate? How do we enforce the mandate? For once I would like a STRAIGHT answer. Like everything in your joint campaign to create your restoration the " devils in the details". How do you get bi-partisian by in and if funding comes from general revenues what revenue is replaced and how. I do not mind if you do not have the answers jsut give us the process.To claim all will be covered some statement about how this will be accomplished needs to be forthcoming.

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KT, Tennessee — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:58:27 GMT

If folks take a look at what is happening in Massachusetts's they will discover that the after subsidy cost to a family of 4 earning $50,000 a year pay a premium of 1,500.00 per month.
$1,500,00 per month!
This is the Hillary plan in essence.

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Toni — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:00:45 GMT

Did the Clinton campaign fprget to email you the Gallup results today? I noticed you posted them yesterday. He's back.....

Obama 47
Clinton 45

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joe-pa — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:06:24 GMT

get real. Hillary's plan is that if you have insurance and happy with it keep it thats good.She will help companies to provide insurance if they want and arent.If your insurance doesnt cover enough or dont have any you would be able to buy from same as fed insurance. I think thats great.Lots of plans to buy from .It would be sudsidised if you couldnt afford it. I have seen Ken Thorpe(policy expert)says Obamas ad not true there would be enough money to do as she says. He has advised all 3 canidates not biased.Obama cannt get it and so he lies in ads (Not the first time) and shows he will do or say anything to win even lie.It hasnt helped before when he has done it .People listen to Hillary and know the facts and his aint right.

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Zachary Dukes Fort Lauderdale, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:12:45 GMT

Bill and Hillary had eight years to pass a new healthcare bill. Why all the furor over it now? Because it serves their political interests. Did Bill Clinton use the phrase "morally right?" I did not think those words were in his working vocabulary.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Erika Ohio — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:13:41 GMT

HILLARY SAID IT HERSELF IF THEY DON'T BUY HER HEALTHCARE PLAN SHE WILL GARNISH YOUR WAGES!!! THAT'S CRYSTAL CLER TO ME!!

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Purl Gurl — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:25:23 GMT

This Obama fever is both contagious and fatal. Rather tragic so many have succumbed to Obama razzle-dazzle with their wearing reality blocking Rose Colored Glasses.

Obama offers a message of desired change but does not offer meat and potatoes as does Clinton. This is Obama in Wonderland. Obama only needs now to click his heels three times then wish, "I want to go home to the White House." Obama does not offer viable long term solutions to America's problem nor to our world's problems. As many say, Obama is a flash in the pan.

A majority of Americans are fat. A majority of Americans are lazy. A majority of Americans want their cake and eat it too. Obama is the cake of senseless dreams of an easy life. Clinton is the meat and potatoes of a hard earned living. Victims of Obama Fever see only Easy Street being guided by promising directions of Obama. Without those Rose Colored Glasses, easy enough to clearly see Obama is leading his ill to Skid Row, Los Angeles.

Clinton offers America hard work. She proposes we all roll up our sleeves and get to work. Her plans and policies call upon all Americans to get off their butts and help work to solve our country's problems. Clinton does not offer easy solutions, Clinton does not offer cake to fat lazy Americans. Clinton offers a chance for America, a chance which must be earned through hard work by all Americans, including the majority fat and lazy.

What these fat lazy Americans wearing Rose Colored Glasses cannot see is the republican party will rip apart Obama with ease. Obama cannot defeat McCain and America will suffer a George Bush clone for, at least, another four years.

Clinton cannot be ripped apart by the republican party; she has already been ripped.

I am an Oklahoma farm girl, a red skinned farm girl, who was literally born on our farm, delivered by a "Chahta ohoyo alla eshi apistikeli", a Choctaw midwife who delivered me penniless and ignorant, who delivered me to a harsh life of farming. Two decades later, the daughter of my Choctaw midwife delivered our daughter, on our same farm, on our same bed, but our girl was not born penniless like her parents.

Our family knows the value of dedication to hard work for betterment of our small tribe. We are successful today because we have devoted our lives to hard work and advancement. None of us within our small tribe are fat and certainly none of us are lazy.

Those blindly supporting this whimsical dream of Obama will continue to lead mediocre lives, will continue to be fat and lazy, will continue to dream but never lift a finger to realize their dreams.

Obama offers idealism void of actuality. Clinton offers reality and hard work.

My preference is hard work and callused hands. I know hard work produces results and produces great pride. Clinton offers us hard work and results. Obama offers a dream soon to be forgotten.

McCain will defeat Obama. Fat and lazy Obama Fever suffers will continue to feel our government's enslaving whip upon their backs. Our small family tribe will not feel the sting of our government's whip; we have freed ourselves through a lifetime of hard work.

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

April Austin Texas — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:34:32 GMT

Lets see, Hillary starts with the attackts and Obama responds to them... Thats how the game is played Hillary good grief..

As far as the healthcare plans... I seriously reviewed both because on 30k a year this is something I have never been able to afford. Most people have a job which health ins is an option but in my familys case it is not. Under contract work, companies dont have to offer any benefits such as health care or holiday pay ect.... That being said Hillarys plan FORCES me to get healthcare or be PENTALIZED if I dont. Obamas plan while I still may not be able to afford health care at least it wont push me backwards and closer to poverty..

My family cant keep up with the increases in food and gas now yet the income stays the same and can come to an abrupt end at any given time.. I would be in heaven to make 50k a year and at times I feel it would be better if I made 15k a year so I could get assistance but we work hard and try to get ahead only to get knocked back down at every turn..

I can understand Obamas explanation on issues alot better than Hillarys explanations and I am one of those uneducated 39 y/o wf voter who by polls say I should be for Hillary but yet I am for Obama as my world now is the result of the lovely 1996 NAFTA /globalization polices care of the Clintons which has me where I am today.. Stuck no matter how hard we try..

I can honestly say I wont vote for anyone but Obama as McCain is the same as we have now and Hillary I have been through and suffered from already..

Obama 08

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Sue, Bloomington, IN — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:38:40 GMT

I always liked Bill Clinton, even through all the impeachment stuff. Not now. And, everytime I read something about him, I like him less. If people want to know what mandated universal health care will be like; talk to someone from Massachusetts. Romney's universal healthcare plan there is the reason I now live in Indiana.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Ma — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:40:02 GMT

When Hillary was in Iowa health insurance was a big issue. I really didn't care for her plan because she stated that everyone would have it. If you didn't take it you would face paying a fine and your wages would be garnished. Personally, I liked Obama's plan because he wants to make it more AFFORDABLE so people can buy the coverage they want. I guess I would go with a plan that didn't take the choice of what I want away from me.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

bashfulbash — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:44:12 GMT

for some reason i am starting to see that this is a MUST win for the clintons. is it becos they owe some people? couldnt she have waited til when the momemtum was right for her. clearly she hasnt gotten it yet and this is just damaging us the more. quitting when u chose to is a whole lot better than losing shamelessly. billary u have amassed enough wealth from the american people go on home and enjoy your money. the usa is not a MONARCHY. MEANING THERE ARE MORE FAMILIES THAT HAVE THE RIGHT TO RULE TOO. NOT JUST TWO. for the clinton supporters think about that. we desperately need a change to benefit us all.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Bill Rush, Chicago, Ill. — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:47:13 GMT

Nobody knows more about bull then Bull Clinton.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Firm Obama Supporter — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:47:59 GMT

No it isn't bull. Clinton just doesn't want to own up to what her plan states. It is forced on everyone, no matter the cost and wage can be garnised for not having it. I hope the Pennslyvanian people are not so easily duped. The crowd at the 35,000 rally was awesome to see, so I know there are some smart folks in Penn.

Obama 08

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Michael, Miami Beach, FL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:51:17 GMT

I AGREE WITH BILL, THIS IS BULL. UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE WILL be an important part of fixing our economy. OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN"T PLAY POLITICS, well guess what he is with your healthcare. This is not right. This is a moral, and economic issue and can help reduce costs for every American. Almost every expert you talk to will tell you that this is true. Elizabeth Edwards herself, who knows all too well what is needed in the healthcare system.

VOTE HILLARY if you want experience and solutions on DAY ONE

GO HILLARY

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

WB Mark — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:52:34 GMT

“If you provide the subsidies and you cap somebody's income…” Cap somebody’s income???!!! Now isn’t that refreshing knowing my check will not only be taxed but “caped” by "Big Brother" as well? Sounds like forced health care to me!

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

SP Ward — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:59:46 GMT

Well at least she is a liar as she said this herself on a Sunday morning news show that some would have to pay.Axlerod reiterated that point today on a MSNBC news show. Now Hill and Bill are flipflopping or just telling us what they thnk we want to hear.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Peoria, IL — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:06:56 GMT

Apparently MSNBC has decided to block all blogs since its now 3 p.m. & they haven't posted anyones comments to the majority of their First Read stories today. Should I alert the authorities & have them check & make sure all are still alive & well there at MSNBC or is it that they just don't like the direction of support that is showing up on this board.

Is Anybody Out There?!

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

Deborah Greenlawn, NY — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:08:39 GMT

Nevertheless, give Bill and Sen. Clinton a dictionary.
What is it about 'mandate' that they are not
getting?

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

lets think about this — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:13:56 GMT

A couple questions....
If you are mandating that everyone has to "purchase" health care insurance, what prevents insurance companies from altering coverage such that they simply offer the bare minimum at the predetermined income cut off, while raising the cost of "quality insurance" across the board? And who determines what the health insurance companies are required to offer at the 5-10% income cap? And who are the "experts" endorsing this proposal (why don't they ever give us names)? Universal health care sounds nice (and is a worth while pursuit), but when you remove competition from market, you open a whole can of worms. Shouldn't the government have to prove to us that they can reduce costs in the industry before they require everyone to purchase a plan?

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

PAVEMENT, Tulsa, OK — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:20:50 GMT

More dishonesty and spin from Bill. He has fallen so far. The best way he and Hillary can change this country is to get out now and quit yapping at the heels of our obvious nominee, which is Mr. Obama.

Forced to buy health care? Bill: 'Bull'

TR — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:21:11 GMT

As someone who works for one of the major insurance companies, I can tell you, the word around is they FAVOR Sen Clinton's plan since they will make more money off it!!!!