Clinton: 'A win is a win'

Pete Caloger Bushkill, PA 18324 — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:42:04 GMT

What is most troublesome about the delusion that Clinton can win the nomination is that if she does, it will not be by collecting the most voter-generated delegates (a methematical impossibility), but by methods that have nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with the manipulation and disregard of the will of the people. She is not worth destroying the party over.

Clinton: 'A win is a win'

Matt, NY, NY — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:42:16 GMT

How about all Obama's wins in places like Iowa, South Carolina, Mississippi, Washington, North Dakota. Aren't they wins too?

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Sandra, Chicago, IL — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:42:38 GMT

Shouldn't you have gone after Osama and Afganistan instead of authorizing the war in Iraq? Hillary finally gets it, sorry Hill, it's a little too late.

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Jerry Tsai — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:43:50 GMT

If a win is a win, maybe she will notice that she has lost 30 out of 44 contest so far. Let's say Pennsylvania is a win for her.. That means she will have won 15 out of 45. Maybe the winner of two-thirds of the contests should be the Democratic nominee.

Hmmm... Senator Clinton, any idea who that might be? What? You can't hear me over the sniper fire?

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Pat, Boston, MA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:44:38 GMT

The numbers don't lie. She needs to win by 20-25% - not 10% - to have a reasonable CHANCE of catching up to Senator Obama. Is she going to win by that much today?

If she does, so what. Obama still has significant wins in other states coming up soon, which will erase any gains she picks up today.

It's all about delegates at this point.

Don't listen to the Republicans and Clintons' spin on tv.

It's over. She is not going to be the nominee.

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Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:44:45 GMT

What about the logic that if Obama can't win in a state after spending so many campaign dollars; can't win the states he has to win in November? If a one pointt victory is a victory, then how could the Clintons claim to be able to win in Nov. after barely having won in April?

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Juanita, TX — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:44:51 GMT

An argument could also be made that any candidate who finishes a month with more debt than cash on hand should never be given an opportunity to run our country.

Americans can't afford a president who can't handle their own campaign finances.

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Lady Professor — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:46:26 GMT

Hillary has been campaigning hard around the country for the presidency since before Bill left office. Her whining about being outspent is simply more "sniper fire" talk. Sorry Hillary, but a win is not always a win. You need a solid 35% difference in EVERY upcoming contest to even come close to Obama's lead.
As for me, I know that both platforms are very very similar. What really counts is the character and style of the person who will be working with our congress and with foreign leaders. Since your moral compass is defunct and your character is that of a pathological lier, I will never be supporting you.

I choose the high road. I will be supporting Obama now and in November.

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Bill,Rochester,NY — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:47:33 GMT

Yep there they go moving the goalposts again!
Hillary give it up. Keep what little dignity you have left and quit gracefully while you can.

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New Independent — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:48:49 GMT

I really can't believe Clinton is blaming Obama for the negative turn? Are you kidding me? How delusional is she? As far as a strong strategy against terrorism, we already know she doesn't believe in talking to them, but she apparently does believe in nuking them, as well as using our soldiers to fight for all of our allies over there, in spite of the fact we can't get Saudi Arabia, Egypt or anyone else to help us! Between McCain and Clinton, I don't know who is worse! Why is there not an outcry from all the democrats who are against this war and want to come home? I don't want ANY of my children fighting over there! It's one thing if they have to fight to protect this country, but to help other countries? I don't think so.

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M. Paulson — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:50:01 GMT

Romney spent 5 times more than McCain and is out of the race now. How stupid are we supposed to be?

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Brian M De. — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:50:28 GMT

I have said it before this lady is showing signs of being ready for a padded cell. She is trully Nuts I watched her on Oberman last night and to see her laugh at serious questions. All I can say is wow and I used to like these people. Win at all cost, betray your party and the people in it if they dont support you Hillary way to go .You know you guys would have won the whole election if you had never made an appearance your name recognition was better than your character.

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Allen Fund, Chicago — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:50:30 GMT

"Clinton blamed Obama for the negative turn the race has taken in recent days..."

"I regret that especially since the debate, Sen. Obama has chosen to go so negative and contrary to what he says in his speeches, his campaign has certainly done that."

Okay, so she criticizes Obama for supposedly not being able to take heat in a debate, and then complains about the heat of the campaign.

She seems to say things that help her at the moment she says them, even if she contradicts herself.

I prefer a candidate who tries to explain his ACTUAL thinking, even if this means he occasionally jumbles words or ideas, or has to go back and clarify himself. At least I'm not getting constant spin.

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Jo Hallmark, Savannah, TN — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:50:41 GMT

Poor little ole me !!! Sob !! I am so tired of Hillary. The only reason Obama has out spent her is that she is broke, her donor base has left her, she can't manage her campaign and millions of people such as myself are sending money to the best candidate for president who happens to be Senator Obama and not some coporate hack like Hill/Bill.

I can't even manage to listen to her without wanting to run and hide. She has some nerve talking about being negative. She was the one that lied about Bosnia, voted for the Iraq war, praised that old fool McCain several times, dissed Move On and thought that she was to be crowned queen.

Give me a break!!!

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Stacey in Texas — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:51:21 GMT

WOW -- She has some nerve! Hillary's ENTIRE CAMPAIGN has been negative -- from the moment Obama gained the lead! So, now, Obama finally decides to fight back against her "kitchen sink" strategy and she claims HE is the negative one?! My two-year-old twins play this game. One pinches the other while I'm not looking, and then I turn around just in time to see the second one retaliate -- while the first one stands there looking like the innocent victim of her sister. I allow that behavior with my girls, and I CERTAINLY don't buy that same act from Hillary! ENOUGH of all of this fake piousness, Hillary! You're the dirtiest of them all! Give me a break!

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David, Newton, Kansas — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:51:24 GMT

"The former first day is favored to win today's contest,"

oops? A little campaign fatigue perhaps?

I'm so sick of Clinton implying that because Obama had to spend huge amounts of money to try and even the huge demographic gap that it reflects poorly on him. She had all the advantage going in, and he managed to close that quite a bit. She needs a huge victory here to bring a nomination within the realm of possibility and anything less than a double digit win for her might as well be a loss.

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Doug P, Renton, WA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:52:05 GMT

Obama may indeed have outspent Hillary in PA, but what she won't admit is that all that money has come from individual donors from all over the country. That is going to be a huge advantage in the general election. Obama has grass roots support like no other candidate ever. And if he can use that leverage to take a 20 point lead for Hillary and cut it in half or better, then imagine what he can do at the national level against McCain when they are essentially even before the battle has even begun.

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marie, allentown, pa — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:52:08 GMT

My oh my, Hilbilly need to embrace the winds of change, and the new Democrat-in-Chief coming with it. Hillary, Meet your next president, Barack H. Obama..and the crowd goes wild!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:52:22 GMT

Call me old fashioned, but more delegates is...well, more delegates and a nomination for Obama. Will a win be a win then, Hil?

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Frank Chicago IL — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:52:24 GMT

"I think we've run a very positive campaign," she said. "I regret that especially since the debate, Sen. Obama has chosen to go so negative and contrary to what he says in his speeches, his campaign has certainly done that."

What will the Clintons spin next? How is responding with facts and integrity to Clinton's false accusations/smears going negative?

Come on PA!!! Show her you ARE smarter than she/her campaign thinks you are.

Frank
Chicago
Obama 08

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Ron Indiana — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:52:57 GMT

More spin. I think Hillary should look at Chuck Todd's earlier post. She can't win states, delegates, or the popular vote. She is staying in the race, not for the Democratic party, but for her own ego. The Kool aid will taste good tonight, but two weeks from tonight she will be "bitter". Hope she saved some of those "I'm not bitter" stickers.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:53:06 GMT

What should be more troubling, from your perspective Sen Clinton, is that an unknown freshman senator has that kind of financial edge over the once-inevitable candidate.

It seems to be a pretty strong indicator that the party which knows you so well just doesn't like you so much.

Its also a strong indicator of how inept you are at building an organization to handle large sums of money. Someone wasn't paying attention to the books, as you continued to burn your way toward $10 million in debt.

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Ellie, Gainesville, VA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:54:10 GMT

Re: Senator Clinton whining that Senator Obama has outspent her --- Senator Obama is able to do that because "Grassroots America" --- consisting of over a million active donors --- overwhelmingly supports him and contributes continuously to his campaign.

Senator Clinton can't compete financially because her support doesn't extend much beyond her narrow circle of big-ticket donors who have already maxed-out their allowable contributions.

That speaks volumes about which candidate is more electable in November . . . .

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Marc V, Fort Lauderdale, FL — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:26:00 GMT

"Later she said maybe she was "old-fashioned" when it came to thinking of a win as a win..." Oh really, Hillary? A win is a win? Yet you have continued to dismiss Obama's 29 wins over your 14 blaming everything from the caucus system to your party's proportionate voting. Once again, you're untruthfullness is on full display.

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JimbObama, Poulsbo, WA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:29:47 GMT

When is a win not a win - when you had over a 20% margin to start in a state that is demographically one of the oldest in the country and will "win" in a should win state (just like Ohio) by less than 5%.

I thought it was hysterical when Jon Stewart asked Obama if he thought Hilary would still be campaigning after he was in the White House.

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j fl — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:32:27 GMT

NO! Obama cannot win in November and people need to start looking at the truth about this, or we will have yet another John Kerry situation.

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Renee, GA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:33:28 GMT

Unbelievable. Her campaign is the best at always changing the bar for success. Wonder if this would translate in a HRC Presidency? I don't really understand why they never admit that a lot of her shrinking electability number is not just related to Sen. Obama but also to her increasing, self-inflicted negatives.

She's being outspent because Obama has more diverse supporters who are donating and the campaign is managing money better. I think this is telling as to how each would manage the Executive branch.

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J love memphis — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:20 GMT

Has anyone seen the location of the new goal post movement, Because I cant seem to find it...The clintons move it every day now...Anyone

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Crystal — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:37:23 GMT

Is a Clinton supporter, choosing what comments to appear? What the hay?

I am just saying...If a "win is a win", then shouldn't Clinton bow out on June 3rd..if Obama has even 1 more pledged delegate than her!!

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Jon, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:38:00 GMT

I think it would be unfair if Obama won. His campaign manager clearly took advantages of loopholes in the faulty system to train people you can count on a hand to win these caucus's which is the only reason Obama has more delegates. If it was an electoral college like the main elections, Clinton would be winning by 300. And that's not even counting the millions who voted for her in Forida where Obama was on the ballot, and everyone knew about both candidates and made a fair choice there. Further Clinton showed she can win the big states and thus win the general election.

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common sense — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:39:34 GMT

Clintons complain about Obama's 'spending advantage', but shouldn't his ability to out-raise them be an point of strength?

When this campaign started Hillary had a HUGE advantage in fundrasing - not to mention the advantage of having the most recognizable name in the democratic party.

The fact that she has not been able to keep up with Obama in fundraising should be considered by Supers as a weakness on her part.

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Yola — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:04:33 GMT

Jon, Philadelpha - how do you explain him winning more States, did he unfairly train people to go cast a ballot.

Are you for real?

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NavChief57 — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:06:17 GMT

I have been reading through the many comments after each story about the Dems and one thing is clearly evident. People are just plain fed up with Hill/Bill and their lies. To give them their due, yes there are some comments interspersed that actually support Hill, but overwhelmingly they are in favor of 1. Obama (as am I), and 2. Wish that Hill and her whiney ex-prez hubby would just crawl under a rock and go away. Hill, you remind me of a once beautiful woman (this is just an analogy now, I would never accuse you of being attractive in the least) who refuses to believe that she is getting old. So, she dresses like she was 20 even though 60 and hangs down at the corner of the bar hoping to get lucky. Hill, your luck has run out, if your people are following the comments in these stories and giving you the straight scoop you would know that and drop out now. Also, one more thing; there is no way in hell that someone like you connects to or feels the pain of the average person like me.

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Kim, Pasadena, CA — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:06:57 GMT

Some people have some false information.
Yes, Senator Obama has won more caucuses by 15-1.
BUT, Senator Obama has also won more primaries by 17-15.
BUT, Senator Obama has won more so-called Blue states (those won by Senator Kerry in 2004) by 12-7.
BUT, Senator Obama has won more BIG states by 9-6 because even though Senator Clinton has forgotten it, states with more than 70+ delegates are conventionally considered big states.

http://the-independent13.blogspot.com/2008/03/clinton-vs-obama-stats.html

A win is a win and Senator Obama is winning and it is almost impossible for Senator Clinton to catch-up.

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Shel, SLC UT — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:10:45 GMT

Matt - NY "How about all Obama's wins in places like Iowa, South Carolina, Mississippi, Washington, North Dakota. Aren't they wins too? "

No, no, no... they're "small" states and some caucas so they don't count. Only the BIG states count. Remember, we're the United Big States of America.

Don't try to apply logic here, you'll just end up confusing the issue.

Go along with what the Clintons tell you.
They wouldn't lie to you.

Obama 08

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Frank from Connecticut — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:11:26 GMT

Wow, these comments tell a story in themselves. Reading the first 20, I don't see anybody pulling for Hillary. It is time for her to admit that it is over. The fat lady is singing...

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kenn — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:14:45 GMT

Not in Obamma land one must win by 20 points over the the presumptive nominee not just beat him but smear him the fact that the frontrunner will lose is fantastic and utterly unbelievable if thats the best foot forward luckly the dems cant lose.

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Bottom Line ! — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:15:59 GMT

A win is a win, except when the numbers are against you.

Hillary's very slim chances are not worth the damage her continued campaign is doing to the party.

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j fl — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:16:29 GMT

Neither candidate has gotten the amount of delegates needed to win. Its too close, so the race must continue. Tough luck for whoever wants to end it.

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MK,MO — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:16:33 GMT

Jon, Philadelphia, PA / "And that's not even counting the millions who voted for her in Forida where Obama was on the ballot, and everyone knew about both candidates and made a fair choice there. Further Clinton showed she can win the big states and thus win the general election."

spare me

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Bev in Erie — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:16:43 GMT

Anybody see Claire McCaskill on MSNBC today? She just said something about the superdelegates watching the race to step in if Hillary keeps going to BREAK-HIS-KNEECAPS-LAND. Is the writing on the wall?? I sure hope so. I am soooo ready for this to end. I am starting to feel like I am in Twilight Zone when I listen to Shrillary's responses. Obama went negative FIRST???????? LOL

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Linda — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:16:46 GMT

Hillary has no one to blame but herself. She has proven herself to be untrustworthy and incapable of running an organization. She apparently can not manage her own campaign finances. She has proven that she is not capable of running this country.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:17:11 GMT

GO HILLARY! WIN! WIN! WIN! Too many obamaites on this board.

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kenn — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:18:15 GMT

Remember all the poor demorats when the puckers would out raise them now its a thing of pride to raise millions when people go hungry and pray to your god because it seems as tho the demorats are now the party of god no abortions gays not welcome unwed mothers are bad and punished with babies Obamma said that not me,the shoe is on the other foot

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Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:20:26 GMT

Go for it Hillary,full-tilt boogie untill the end. She is not going to be happy until she has distroyed the party she thought was going to support her always with blind unwavering loyality. There are many many people like my self who see her what she has turned into and she should consider herself lucky that if we only knew then what we know now she would be finished right this moment. Total distruction is where she is heading. Take Willie with you.

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Angela — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:48:38 GMT

So the fact that Obama has a ton of money (from donors who probably really need that money but chose to donate it to his cause), that he has used that money at record spending levels, that he has outspent her 4 to 1, should mean that he is 10 points ahead of her. Why isn't he???

Why should people keep donating if he can't win the big blue states, and the swing states? Most of his victories are in states the democrats have no hope in carrying in November.

Why do you think the uncommitted supers haven't committed. They KNOW this!

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Dane NM — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:50:11 GMT

Pennsylvania, Michigan, New Mexico, Ohio, Texas and Florida! and the other swing states which Clinton has clinched!! The winner of these states SHOULD be the nominee What is wrong with the superdelegates?? Do they really think that after the Swift boating of Obama's numerous issues he'll be standing against McCain. These ads are already playing in the swing states! Obama CANNOT win the crucial states. McCain V. Clinton...the ONLY OPTION for America!

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L.C. Alb. N.Y. — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:50:28 GMT

Hillary fought a good fight. If she win PA. It's not going to chane anything. Maybe she can bow out gracefully. However, I don't think Bill will let her. Obama will plant a seeds of good fruitations for many generations to come!!!

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rbathelib , evergreen park, Illinois — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:52:18 GMT

Hillary, please stay in the race. Obama is a creation of the media beginning in 2004 at the convention and has benefited from a wag the dog campaign by the national media. Prior to winning his senate seat in 2004, he was a virtual unknown and would have been defeated if the republicans had put a real candidate in that election. Does anyone care whether a state senator votes against a war? I think not. Hillary , take this empty suit to the cleaners.

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Heart of America — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:53:40 GMT

So when all is said and done Hillary now says the math shouldn't count. Well I guess if half the states didn't count than I can see why the math wouldn't make any difference to her either. She now thinks we all should go by a feeling of who should be the nominee. No Shi* Sherlock! Take your fuzzy math calculator and go home Hillary. You are so dishonest and disrespectful. Why don't you go home and pay your bills. The folks you owe money to probably don't have 1.9 mil sitting around in the bank. Go back to the senate (if they don't vote you out) and work on sending our troops home to their families, don't start world war three over Iran.

Obama 08

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DaneNm — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:54:07 GMT

One does not see Pro Clinton messages/blogs cause we're being blocked by MSNBC!!

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Andress — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:57:27 GMT

Clinton, what a fraud, She has slung so much muc at the Obama Car, that he has to wipe off the mud once in a while, to see the road.

Clinton political stategy: pot calling the kettle black!

Clinton political character: the little girl who cried wolf.

We don't trust you Hillary.

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Mark — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:03:58 GMT

I would not trust Obama with anything, this is not an honest man. And I do not think he wants what is best for us, but what is best for himself. If he is chosen I will vote for a republican........And I feel alot of others will as well.......