Pennsylvania results: Inside the numbers

Cowboy Jack — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:16:00 GMT

Sen. Obama: PLEASE DROP OUT OF THE RACE!! Please do this for the good of the party! It's clear you have a serious problem w/ the voters in swing states and it's clear you cannot swing states (OH, PA, and FL), which means you cannot beat John McCain

Pennsylvania results: Inside the numbers

Union Baby, Tennessee — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:21:16 GMT

So why did the poll not include black voters who thought race was important?
Play fair or take your dirty toys and go on home.

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Lisa, New Britain, CT YES WE CAN! — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:22:47 GMT

Exactly, her base held for her. I guess she can do no wrong with them. Nice to know. I don't get it (as someone in her base except for education, that's the irony, guess education matters!).

I wonder what it would take for them NOT to vote for her...we had a President would could do whatever he wanted and get elected. And look at where we are now. Lying, not a problem, not listening to opposition and going it alone, not a problem (are we talking Hillary Clinton here or George Bush, I can't tell the difference). Bomb them back to the stone age (Curtis LeMay or Hillary Clinton). Apparently with certain segments of the population, we haven't learned a thing.

Just because she held her base in PA (and essentially there's not a lot wrong with that), doesn't mean Barack can't win in Nov.

Like others I'm tired and sad that the fighting goes on, I realize some in the media are giddy about it (revenues up), but I'm just tired. But I can still fight when I'm tired and I will continue to fight for and be supportive of my candidate.

That will not stop.

Lisa in CT

Pennsylvania results: Inside the numbers

Shawn Goddard, Burlington, VT — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:47:54 GMT

This was a good night for Clinton, a little better than nominal expectations, but not much and certainly not the blowout she needed. This might be her last really happy night on the campaign.
Keep in mind a few things:
1. PA was OH on steroids for Clinton. The demographics were massively in her favor.
2. When the demographics have been in Obama's favor by this much, he has scored 15-25pt victories. Merely maintaining her OH 10pt margin isn't all that impressive.
3. Obama went into the PA primary vote after the worst 3 weeks of his primary season. This is the best it will ever look for Clinton, and she couldn't score more than a 10pt win.
Clinton will enjoy this for a few days, then we're all about the next states. Obama needs to get back to controlling his message, rather than simply responding to hers. He'll recover fine on May 6th and the PA primary will be seen as Clinton's last great night.

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leslie, indiana — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:56:02 GMT

In your analysis never a mention as to how Hillary did with the african american voter? How about poorly. Thats a very key democratic demographic that this analysis just decided to skip over.

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Bob, Orlando, FL — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:00:44 GMT

Attention Superdelegates:

Clinton's victory shows that the voters no longer consider Obama to be the messiah. If the previous primaries and caucuses were held today, the results would be similar to Pennsylvania's.

Superdelegates have an obligation to what the voters would want NOW; not just blindly follow the OLD numbers.

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Rolf Ernst, Plano, TX — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:01:59 GMT

There is something eerie about that. NYTimes reports 10%, giving her the double digits she did *not* get (8.6).

Like the other poster, I just don't understand how so many people distrust her honesty and still vote for her. It just doesn't add up. Maybe America 'just can't handle the truth'.

There is really very, very little chance she can attain any of the metrics her campaign keeps coming up with (popular vote, delegates, pledged delegates, caucus delegates vs. 'real' delegates) even counting Florida.

I know the above article refers to race as only a small factor but maybe that is not so. Would someone racist tell a pollster? Look at her constituency of white blue collar. I harbor some real suspicions that race may be more of a factor than we think.

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L.Sharpley, Spring HIll, Florida — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:57 GMT

Senator Clinton, did win when she needed; however she changes the meaning of each win for her own purpose. She can not win the November election simply because the average American, does not trust her. She does not help this by changing daily what the measurment is and why she has met it. I'm not sure she remembers the years she spent in the White House. All the drama that President Clinton and she brought with them. As a voting democrat I do not want to go through all the drama again. Lets turn the page of 20 years of Bushes and Clintons and move on to something new.

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P. Duncan — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:04:36 GMT

If Chuck Todd is so great with the math why does he keep saying Clinton won by 10. At the moment it's 8.5 rounded up it's 9.

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mary Norman, In — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:07:28 GMT

Why do the media seems so surprise that Hillary won Pa.? She had the governor and almost all the mayors behind her. Let us not forget the governor said that many whites there would not vote for a black man. Obama did very well considering the odds. Let us not forget mommy Hill brought up the Mr.F. and the connection with Obama's pastor which by the way, had nothing to do with Obama at all. Obama needs to stop playing nice and let the negatives that he knows about hill be known, since as she had Rev. Wright at the white house to counsel her and bill after his affair and there were pictures to show it. How as an atty for walmart she fought against unions and now she is for unions. This presidency is not about Hillary it is about bill and remember that. He will be our next president and running the show. Where is hillary experiences? Being married to a governor and a president. She became a senator in New York that is when her experience Hillary wont win and if they give it to here Mccain will win in Nov. because all the republicans will come out to vote against her. Again American shows her true colors white against Black. Bush divived this country and this election if it doesn't go the right way will finish the job. I am glad Randall said whites would not vote for Obama, blacks will vote for Hillary because she is white. He needs to look at the racial divide. Vote your heart not your FEARS.

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:11:54 GMT

The key from now until May 6 is to REALLY JUST focus on McCain. Really. If Hillary attacks, literally just say "I thought we were supposed to be united against John McCain; I thought that our differences pailed in comparison to the differences with McCain; then why is she attacking me instead of the real problem? We don't affect real change by squabbling."

Then go back to focusing on McCain. Then the story will become: Hillary is negative and selfish. Which is the story.

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Robin Thompson Silver Spring Md — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:49:00 GMT

Like most folks I wish this mess was over! However; a few things strike me as true. Many Americans have extremely short memories. Many American cannot handle the truth. Many Americans are just plain stupid. Hillary the most dishonest politican continues in the same great manner that Nixon, Bush and Bill Clinton did. Her great line "It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush" leaves me praying that she will not Ever have that opportunity!!!

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M. Paulson — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:49:56 GMT

Bob. This result is no different than Ohio. Actually its al little better in Obama's favor (about 9% here compared to in Ohio). This after Wright's words were practically ascribed to Obama and the twisting of the comment that people are bitter about government and so vote on things like religion and guns because they dont trust in economy (to meaning bitter people resort to religion and guns).

How many people would be innocent today if their parents statements (not to talk of actions) were practically assigned to them.

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CJ — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:55:12 GMT

Obama survived even though bloodied...I think races looms larger than people admit. It's PC to say race doesn't matter but either there is a sister soldja movement going on amoung whites or the race issue is closer to 30-40% in the voting booth.