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adam/Brooklyn New York City — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:27:21 GMT

Hillary's PA win mde her totally unelectable. The only way she can get the nomination is by appearing to steal it. That will fracture the Dem base and make her totally unelectable in the fall.

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turnip — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:28:32 GMT

Any Clinton argument that includes Michigan and Florida in the math calculus is insane. If a superdelegate is too stupid not to recognize this they are a waste of oxygen.

Hillary has officially become the Mike Huckabee of this race. Except she lacks his class and humor.

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Linda. Boston, MA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:31:21 GMT

Hillary's "electability" argument was flawed from day one (no pun intended). If Obama is unelectable, then what does it say about Hillary that he's beating her? That's like consistently scoring lower on a math test then the guy sitting next to you, and then turning around and calling him stupid. It's bass-ackwards and makes no sense. Besides, it's already been illustrated that the primary battle does NOT reflect what will happen in the general election.

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Betty — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:34:58 GMT

I can't believe they are actually trying to get the primaries held Michigan and Florida seated. How dishonest is that? Hillary Supporters should ask themselves...If Hillary can put her name and sign something that gives her word, how can you believe she will EVER be truthful to keep her word? Is so pathetic and makes me sick! I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing all the unethical games they get up and play daily.

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Judge Judy — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:35:57 GMT

It's not over for the CLinton's. It's never over. You just know they'll file lawsuits if/when something doesn't go their way. Obama doesn't stand a chance.

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Enrique, Chicago — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:37:04 GMT

There Hillary goes again twisting arms in order to win over superdelegates. What makes Hillary think that she's entitled to the nomination? Give it up Hillary!

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Gregory Peek, Birmingham, Alabama — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:37:24 GMT

There are THREE (3) possible scenarios:

(1) (MOST LIKELY)

Obama 53%
McCain 47%

(2)

Clinton 49%
McCain 51%

(3) (IF SUPERDELEGATES OVERTURN ELECTED DELEGATE RESULTS)

Clinton 27%
McCain 73%

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Linda. Boston, MA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:37:27 GMT

Seating MI would be complete insanity. Obama would get ZERO votes just for following the rules. Clinton herself even stated that MI would NOT count.

I'd love to see her try to win a general election without African American's and young voters, who would have no reason to show up and support the person who stole the election away from the rightful winner.

THE CLINTONS DO NOT OWN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!

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Marge (Pittsburgh) — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:38:47 GMT

It appears the Clintons are comfortable in "changing" the criteria which has been in place for years on how to choose a nominee.
Has it dawned on anybody that her strategy is flawed? Does her campaign or supporters actually believe the DNC will sacrifice their ingerity just so she can win?
I don't understand how anybody can even entertain her foolish attempt at cheating.
I don't get it!

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:39:06 GMT

Pennsylvania should have made it clear to anyone considering support of Clinton that the race is in fact over (assuming they didn't know before).

This was her best opportunity to make up ground, and she netted how many delegates?

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think — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:41:49 GMT

Still have a hard time understanding how Clinton would be "stealing" the election if the superdelegates voted that way. That's the rules of the party. They have the right to do so if they chose. To me, any super delegate who has endorsed a candidate their state did not elect is already stealing votes and overriding the will of the people. If HRC would be "stealing", then Obama already has stolen: i.e., Kennedy, Duval, Kerry, etc.

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Ken, Atlanta, GA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:42:54 GMT

All of this conjecture and spin are sickening. It seems the media wants to make it happen for Hillary. The underlying meaning of this article is let's influence the public's pereceptions. Let's make it seem feasible and not a stretch or theft for Hillary the person with the lesser delegates, lower total of delegates and superdelegates, and the lower number of the two in the popular vote (since Michigan and Florida aren't counted or possible to inclue). I'm wondering if the media's own bias isn't fueling this. I feel as as you're working for Hillary. The media should stick to news. This kind of article and the ones assimilated within it sicken me. They're corrosive and do no good. No matter how it's spun, the facts are clear. Barack is winning. Barack will win the nomination. The final fact is the DNC has absolutely no intention of overlooking those facts on spurious arguments that Hillary can win in the general election and Obama can't. The primary determines the candidate, not the possible general election outcome. You can't decide to look at which states are better states. It's about winning more states and delegagtes period, not this Hillary logic of the states I won matter more in the general election. What that means is Hillary and the DNC if it followed that logic would be disenfrachising and disrespectful of numerous stgates. While Hillary doesn't mind doing that, the DNC knows more is at stake than this egomaniac's quest for power. The truth, eventhough few seem interested in it, is that BARACK OBAMA, not Hillary, reinvigorated the party -- those legions of people registering to vote are Obama enthusiasts. IF the DNC and superdelegates decide to follow Hillary's argument that she's more electable and deny Obama, the DNC will be irreperably damaged for decades. Now is Hillary worth that? I don't think so. We've witnessed Bush with the help of the Supreme Court finagle his way into office. Enough is enough. Hillary's so-called indomitable will and specious argument that she is a tough figher aren't entitlements. And the media is really help escalate this nonsense for its own purposes one of which is nothing else to report -- no news -- so instead endless, irresponsible conjecture. FirstRead regularly overlooks anything I write, yet certain people regularly have multiple posts for any given article -- I'm losing my faith in the electoral process and the media. Thanks for showing me that a free-America and a free press are really shams.

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think — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:45:14 GMT

I'd love to see her try to win a general election without African American's and young voters,
******
Linda in Boston: she won PA without them! Let's think about how Obama will do without the true base of the party, many of whom will walk if he's the nominee. Young, AAs and some independents won't be enough for him to win in the GE.

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ann — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:45:27 GMT

we know how the clintons play -- dirty!! they tell lies change the numbers break the rules and on and on -- they are what i call the play ground bully!! they will do anything to get what they want whether or not it is good for the country!!!! this is the only way Billary can be president again. as far as i am concerned they care nothing about the country or about the party or what is really good for the American people. hillary wants to be crowned and will lie, cheat and mislead. the real sad thing is that many Americans are buying what she is selling!!

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pgh. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:46:34 GMT

Hillary trying to use spin to convince other politicians, will be as successful as trying to convince them that Dubyah has been the best thing to hit the Whitehouse since before Abe Lincoln.

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Ann, NY — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:51:17 GMT

the sad thing is that they are so deceptive the Clintons that they could sway delegates!! Our country is in trouble and the Clintons did that!!

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GDI in Michigna — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:51:28 GMT

There is a good story in the Detroit News (detnews.com) today on the "Clinton ground game" in Michigan to get the Delegates seated. Seems here folks walked circles around Obamas in this state and would take at least 70% of Michigan delegates.

I still say Debbie Dingle and Jenifer Granholm (the leading proponents for moving the primaries) and Howard Dean (cause of the over reaction to strip all votes) will be looked at vary unfavorably this November.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:51:46 GMT

All the supers have to do is look at how conservatives like Moron Joe are pushing Clinton to see which candidate they're most afriad of runniing against in Novemeber. Take note, supers: When Lush Rimjob the Oxymoron and his ilk push Hillary, you know who to throw your support behind.

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Rick, NC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:54:26 GMT

all the whining from the obamamites is hilarious...the only way their boy wins is if the super delegates put him over the top...your rules say the nominee must have X votes to win..period...stop with the tpyical liberal stuff of fairness and blah blah blah already...john mccain and the rightwing 527's aren't going to care about your stinking rules or feelings...

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Will, Scranton, PA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:55:21 GMT

A 10 point victory??
Hillary got 54.6% of the vote, while Obama got 45.4%. For anyone who attended grade school, 54.6 - 45.4 does not equal 10, it equals 9.2%! If you were to round that number, it is 9%. We can call it 9.2%, but it is not a double-digit 10%.

Why can't we get real here and report the facts?

I agree with Linda in Boston, the Clintons do not run the democratic party and can't change the rules every other day to suit her needs. I, for one, am sick of it.

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Terry — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:55 GMT

Should it not be "we the people" of the Democratic party verses "we the servants of King Bill and Queen Hillary" of the Democratic party. Since we allowed the party elders to beleive that the Clinton's own the democrstic party, we've had problems gaining party members. With the emergence of a younger more attractive politician including people like Senator Webb and Senator Obama we have made huge headway. If Hillary enters the White House with the old base, we will lose ground again in 4 years. Please think what you do before backing the Clinton old world politics.

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Peter Paul — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:58:00 GMT

A status conference hearing is scheduled for Friday, April 25, 2008, in Los Angeles California, to finally set a trial date in Paul vs. Clinton.
California Superior Judge Aurelio N. Munoz delayed setting a trial date back in February, but is scheduled to set a trial date this Friday.
Judge Munoz ruled back in February that Paul's legal team can begin seeking depositions from a host of big names – including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, along with an A-list of Hollywood celebrities that allegedly were witnesses to an effort by the Clintons and top Democratic leaders to extract millions of dollars from Paul in illegal donations and then cover it up. Discovery in the trial is expected to start in May. The Clintons have tried to dismiss the case, but the California Supreme Court, in 2004, upheld a lower-court decision to deny the motion.
The complaint says Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser.
The Clintons' legal counsel has denied the former president made any deal with Paul. But Paul's attorney Colette Wilson has stated there are witnesses who say it was common knowledge at Stan Lee Media that Bill Clinton was preparing to be a rainmaker for the company after he left office.
Paul claims former Vice President Al Gore, former Democratic Party chairman Ed Rendell and Clinton presidential campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe also are among the people who can confirm Paul engaged in the deal.
The complaint also asserts that Senator Clinton filed four false reports to the FEC of Paul's donations in an attempt to distance herself from him after a Washington Post story days after the August 2000 fundraiser reported his past felony convictions. Clinton then returned a check for $2,000, insisting it was the only money she had taken from Paul. But one month later, she demanded another $100,000, to be hidden in a state committee using untraceable securities.
Senator Clinton was dismissed from the case as a defendant, but Munoz already has made it clear he won't accept any attempts to block Senator Clinton from serving as a material witness. The judge told Clinton's lawyer David Kendall: "Well, any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival, if that will – if you understand what I'm saying, Mr. Kendall."
DOJ Prosecutor Dan Schwaber told a jury in May, 2005 at the trial of Hillary’s finance director David Rosen, that it was a crime “to deny the public’s right to know that Peter Paul personally gave more than $1.2 million to Hillary’s national campaign”.
Paul has outlined the entire case in a one hour documentary entitled, Hillary Uncensored, Banned by the Media.
Although Paul is a three time convicted felon, he has passed a lie detector's test in answering questions as to whether there was an agreement made for Stan Lee Media to hire Bill Clinton once he left the White House. Paul also claims he has several hours of home video of Senator Clinton, and states, "her own words will indict her".
How much longer will the media continue to cover-up this case for Senator Clinton and deny the voters right to know about this trial?
If Barack Obama or the media doesn't begin to ask questions about the upcoming Peter Paul trial, and the four false FEC reports that were filed, John McCain and the GOP will.

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Sandy Kansas — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:58:15 GMT

Clinton supporters need to realize that the candidate they are backing is the one who is "unelectable", especially after the dirty campaign and the scheming the country has witnessed for the past couple of months. I think ALL Americans, Republican or Democrat take pride in our (former?) reputation as a country who believes in fair play. The Clinton's have clearly demonstrated that honesty,fairness and abiding by the rules are of zero importance to them. How can patriotic Americans support this pair when they don't share such important American values? Wake up Clinton people! She can't win a straight up primary election. It's over, except for the damage she continues to inflict on the Democratic party and the entire political system. Quit feeding the beast!

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JR, Harrisburgh — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:00:19 GMT

Hillary the New Huckabee on the block. I remember he also never left the race arguing miracle over the math....

Love Chucky T

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eric D. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:00:26 GMT

Why don't the superdelegates use their leverage to force Clinton to stay positive? If they'd stop attacking each other and direct all that negative energy at McCain he won't have a chance.

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Diane from Illinois — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:00:48 GMT

The Superdeleagtes will keep trickling toward Obama every day as they have been recently. Some are still afraid of the Clinton's and will hold out, but it is inevitable that the nominee will be Obama. She better start working on her concession speech. I, for one, can't wait to hear it and plan on taping it to play over and over and over and over and over and over again. Hillary: Go back to New York. The nation doesn't need nor want you.

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chris, SC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:01:41 GMT

Rules are rules. It seems absurd to even dignify the wacky Clinton notion of counting the FL and MI votes. Everything was agreed to in advance. We can't just change the rules mid stream to suit one candidate. And think about it, what message would we be sending to all the other states come next election. You leap frog ahead of all the other states and there is not penalty. In fact, you are rewarded with more spotlight and given the role of being the decisive states that will determine our nominee. (This sound strangely familiar...Katherine Harris.) Can you imagine the stampede of states elbowing each other to be first in the primary race knowing there would be no punishment.

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NC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:03:10 GMT

There are less and less Hillary supporters comment everyday...must be a sign of disappointment and disgust. I wonder how Hillary & Bill's Largest Election Fraud Case in US History is going?

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Steve, Dallas, TX — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:05:09 GMT

I agree with other posts. Why isn't the media just reporting the facts? Why does everyone walk on egg shells when it comes to the Clintons? If Hillary Clinton had any integrity at all she would take her loss like a big girl and get behind Obama before the the party is so fractured that McCain is sure to win.

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:05:29 GMT

All the Super Delegates should meet in the Hall of the Justice League [think super friends], and not leave until they all unanimously support one candidate, or else, shove a piece of kryptonite up their you know whats...

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Selina, Wilmington, Delaware — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:22 GMT

It would blatant theivery. Nothing less. And yes Mrs Billary Pantsuits does need the AA and young vote. If you think she doesn't then I suggest you do some hard thinking. After all the verbal diarrhea her husband has been spewing lately, do you honestly think the AA and young vote would go to Clinton? She and he messed up. Point blank. Twisting the numbers is not going to help her.

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Joey, Denver, Colorado — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:46 GMT

Think you really aren't much of a thinker because Hillary's inability to be elected president goes much deeper than African Americans. She will not be able to bring any Republicans to the table. I can tell you that because I am a Republican and I support Barack Obama. Trust me when I tell you Think the G.O.P. will not support another Clinton especially after she has shown the same dishonest characteristics as her husband. Barack Obama has had more support from Republicans and Independance than any other democratic presedential candidate ever. I don't believe the Bush administration has done this country or my party a great service, but if you as democrats believe Bush has lied to you, vote for Hillary Clinton and see what happens. And the funny thing for me is how much you love Bill. Bill was a republican in sheep's clothing. Why do you think he passed NAFTA? Was that taking care of the little guy? Or was it merely a business deal to get a 500 million dollar library built and cash in on 109 million. I am a republican ready for change and Hillary doesn't offer that. She offers a power hungry leader willing to win at all costs.

Republicans against Hillary and for Obama

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jessie, mn — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:08:40 GMT

hillary and mccain win the same states. Obama has won the states that Romney carried. The DNC should be worried about who would really be a true contender with McCain in November. Let's face it folks the big states are what counts. The electoral votes not the popular votes. If it was about popularity Gore would have one instead we have a dipsmack in office.

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Neenahfox, MI — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:08:58 GMT

She can't win Michigan, Didn't win Michigan so she needs to stop counting our state as a win for her.

Our state is a manufacturing state and the jobs are not pouring in, instead jobs are being outsourced thanks to NAFTA.

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Judgement will Prevail — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:10:54 GMT

Boom then Bust...so went the nation so went Billary's campaign..

send money fast they need it to add to the $109 million in their deep pockets...

As our pockets get thinner theirs just gets fatter...
SUCKERS!!!!!

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bored — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:12:12 GMT

Chuck,

Since she CANNOT win (without an asteroid falling on Obama) why do you continue to speak of her campaign as tho it were viable?

Obama is the front runner - PERIOD.

Hillary is losing - PERIOD.

Why speak as tho they are neck and neck rivals?

Cover Hillary as a loser. If the asteroid falls there will be plenty of time to make hay from it.
But until then the front runner is just that -
THE FRONT RUNNER!

and if that kind of coverage is beyond you...well at least run the loops of Rendell drooling over Farrakhan and the Bosnia lies

just as many times

as you ran the Wright and 'bitter' loops.

It's starting to smell alot like fox noise here.

I know this won't be posted. Most of my comments are not.

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jesse St.Paul Minnesota — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:13:18 GMT

This is a prime example of the media spin,you quoted a strategist saying that hillbilly now has a chance,more then she had weeks ago.What was gained,what chance what was gained nine delagates,couple hundred thousand votes.Obama still has a five hundred thousand vote lead,and the election is not based on popular vote,also has over a hundred point delagate lead,so besides the hillbillys who else is talking about the pop vote?Look even Chris Mattews said that the press is casting this false impression that this is still a race,that the media is to blam for this.The penn primary was tailor made for the hillbillys,older voters,mostly white folks.many under educated,and a Gov that said that people of his state were not going to vote for a colored man.Everyone knows how close the hillbillys are to the Rendells,Bill appointed his wife to a judgeship,so lots of payback.So now the Hillbillys want to talk up the Mich,Fla,vote trying to change the rules midgame as they have done all along with the help of the media.And you still hear pundets saying why can't Obama close the deal,why won't the b.c.w.vote for him, when in states like MN.NEB.WIS.IOWa they voted overwhelming for Obama.

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Past the Dem party way to LEFT — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:15:10 GMT

Ah Keith how does president McCain sound to you?
We will vote him in and his puppet masters, they may as well live with the mess shrub has made. The Dem's will be blamed for everything anyway, go get 'em JOHN!

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Dem Lover — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:15:17 GMT

Superdelegates! You are the elitists of the party, and it's time to pick one of your own, B. Hussein Obama!!

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Jamil - Dearborn, MI — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:17:43 GMT

If they are to seat any delegates out of Michigan, they definetely should not seat the superdelegates since they caused this whole mess (Gov. GRANHOLM)!!!

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Andress — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:18:53 GMT

Count Obama's Caucus Votes--stupid--and Hillary won't be close even with florida and michigan.--Stupid Clintons.

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Kimberly, Leeds, Alabama — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:20:16 GMT

I will be the first in line to protest the DNC the day Hillary is handed the nomination. There is no ethical way for her to win. Florida--I could forgive but Michigan is outrageous. I hate Clinton more every day and if the DNC goes along with her--I will never vote to another democrat. I have been a lifelong supporter of the Democratic party but this year has really given me pause. The fact that the DNC hasn't come up with any plausable solutions for Michigan and Florida has really left a bitter taste in my mouth. Hillary is a liar and a cheat. The Republicans are going to have a field day with the Clintons in the fall.

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Johnny Bananas, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:21:51 GMT

Hasn't anyone considered the fact that Obama and Clinton will NOT be running against each other in the general? Right now, Democrats have a CHOICE of which Democrat to support, and naturally, there will be different preferences among different groups.

However, come fall, Clinton voters will no longer have a choice of 2 Democrats to vote for. While some Democrats may stay home, I find it hard to believe that Clinton voters would choose an economically reckless Republican over a economically progressive Democrat.

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Tee Chicago, Il — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:24:19 GMT

If they count Mi and Fl and Obama was not on the ballot that tells you a lot about Hilliary. Like someone said above let her try and win without the black vote, young voters and independents. You are going to loose so many voters and that will be a John McCain win. I hope they don't let her cheat her way into office. The DNC will be sorry they did.

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RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:24:56 GMT

I LIVE IN MICHIGAN AND IN A NEW POLL.MCCAIN BEATS HILLARY IN MICHIGAN BY 11 POINTS.OBAMA BEATS MCCAIN BY 4 POINTS IN THE SAME POLL.

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juan,ft lauderdale, fl — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:25:31 GMT

If the remaining Superdelegates are naive and/or corrupted enough by the the so-called status quo to usurp the will of the people it will bring unimaginable damage to our democracy. PERIOD! The rightwing Supreme Court in 2000 denied the popular vote. Are the Democrats willing to open pandora's box. It will make hanging chads laughable by comparison.

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nj — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:31:28 GMT

The AP’s Pickler writes, “There are a couple other problems for Clinton in claiming the lead in the popular vote. Even using her criteria of counting Michigan and Florida, her lead may not last more than two weeks. That's because Obama is heavily favored to win the largest state left to vote, North Carolina, on May 6. Obama also is likely to win South Dakota and Oregon. Even if Clinton won all the other contests left -- Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Montana, Puerto Rico and Guam -- they are smaller contests that will make it difficult for her to catch back up.”

Guess the small states matter to Hillary now!!

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RJW - RALEIGH NC — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:34:57 GMT

By the way....Hillary was a REPUBLICAN first. Seems like people are fighting over who's right or wrong. This is NOT a game, this is our lives, our children's lives. If people don't stop having temper tantrums about who's opponent can win we're going to be FURTHER down the drain. Put your fight out there for the people in YOUR lives who u love. It's like looking for a babysitter or housesitter, you look for character and morals why shouldn't it be the same in choosing a president?? What type of person would you allow in your home or around your children?

You better get it TOGETHER people before it is TOO LATE! Trying to PROVE a point is stupid right now. Sam's is limiting the amount of rice you can purchase, Gas is almost $5 a gallon, pretty soon we're gonna be wondering how to feed our families or trying to find a second job. When will the money wheel stop? When there is no more to go around? This is not about stupid race,sex,or someone definition of what tough is. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR FAMILY'S LIFE.

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Angie in KY — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:37:26 GMT

If you lie loud enough- people start to believ it. I think this is what the clintons are trying to do. Michigan and Florida were agreed upon prior to the primaries. It is completely unfair to try to change this midgame. What would the clintons say if the tables were turned and Obama tried to include FL and MI to take the lead? The clintons were probably the most investigated administration in history- remember Ken Starr? Americans spent millions. This would happen again w/ hillary as president. Republicans will be united and nothing will get done. Polls show 90% of republicans will vote for McCain if the nominee is Hillary. She cannot win without some republicans and independents. Obama can do this. I want a new washington with a vision on unity and working together. Forget the partisan politics of the last 15+ years. Obama is the way to change.

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Thinking Man In North Carolina — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:38:16 GMT

If Hillary and her unscrupulous cohorts are allowed to steal this nomination, the Democratic Party will cease to exist and there will be blood on the streets not only of Denver, but all over America. Denver will make Chicago look like a church picnic and even the superdelegates know that Hillary and Bill care not one wit for the Democratic Party, for voters, for this country or anyone, other than their own selfish selves. The Clintons are the ones who need to be obliterated by every sane thinking America who can vote.

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Angie in KY — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:41:14 GMT

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Mathematician — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:46:17 GMT

Enough of your "fuzzy math," Hillary.

Get thee to a nunnery!

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Tim, Albany, New York — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:46:56 GMT

Hillary knows she can't win. The only reason she's staying in this race is to destroy Obama. This way McCain wins and she gets to run again in 2012. It's the ultimate act of selfishness on her part. It is incredible to me when i think of how i viewed the Clintons 2 years ago vs. how i view the Clinton's today.

There was a time when Bill Clinton was literally my idol and i thought Hillary was a good Senator. This campaign has really opened my eyes.

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Walt, Ohio — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:47:08 GMT

Reality check for Clinton supporters:
The superdelegates would be very foolish to unfairly steal the nomination for Hillary. It won't happen for a very simple reason. The reason can be found in the level of grassroots financial support Obama has received. Obama has received an unprecedented amount of financial backing from grassroots America. This is what scares Republicans the most. Not the amount of money; Romney could probably match that through his own fortune. No, it is what this money represents, and the diverse sources it comes from. This widespread level of support cannot be duplicated by any candidate in this campaign.
Despite all of the histrionic rantings by Clinton and her supporters, the fact remains that outside of her special interest lobbyists and fat cats, she can't keep her campaign in the black. She does not have widespread support financially. She purchases her continued candidacy by selling her support to nefarious interests like Colombia, China, UAE, and Dubai; using the money for divisive mean spirited fear mongering gutter politics. Unfortunately, she never pays her bills; not even for health care for her OWN campaign workers.
Faced with her lack of integrity, lack of honesty, inability to manage her own campaign and her race-baiting husband (not to mention her greater than 50% negatives), how can anyone in their right mind support such a flawed candidate? Her lack of financial support throughout only validates the American voters disdain for her campaign. Like her campaign, her ideas and politics are totally bankrupt.
Any superdelegate that votes for her in the face of so much vitriol and ineptitude deserves not only to lose the Presidency but their own individual election as well.

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Stephen in Miami — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:51:19 GMT

Obama too a fighter
Regarding Hillary's positioning as a fighter, please remember that as a woman, this positioning helps offset the stereotype that a woman would not be strong enough to be president. My compliments to her as I believe that except for a small minority of voters no one would consider this to be one of her weaknesses.
Obama, on the other hand has very different stereotypes to deal with. As a man (let alone a black man) he is still expected to be gracious to a woman. He also runs against the belief (especially with women over 55) that once again, a man is jumping over a qualified woman and taking a job that otherwise would have been hers. Thankfully Barack has already won the contest by any reasonable measure so he should not have to “fight” or “punch” back as so many of the pundints and even his supporters have called for.
This will not be an issue when Barack runs against John McCain and I believe strongly that when the race for the democratic nomination is finally over, John McCain will not know what hit him.

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Bruce, Leesburg, VA — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:53:59 GMT

Howard Dean should have come out strongly the first time the Clinton campaign raised this nonsense and said, the rules were clear, the penalty for breaking those rules was clear, but the elected leaders in MI and FL knowing full well the consequences chose to flaunt the rules. All democratic candidates at the time the penalty was imposed agreed not to campaign in these states and agreed that the results would not count. We will not revisit the penalty and the delegations will not be seated. Any MI or FL resident who has a problem with that should take it up with their local leaders. Had he done that, we would not continue to hear these same inane arguments from a campaign so convinced that Senator Clinton's coronation was inevitable that it had no plan to win after Super Tuesday.

The fact that Dean has been spineless on this "issue" typifies the weakness that causes Republicans to laugh at the Democratic Party.

The delegate fight: The push for supers

Ann in Virginia — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:55:40 GMT

Mr. Todd, Please address the continued playing of the attack ads. I watched my usual 5 to 7 shows last pm and finally turned on Top Chef reruns.