Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

NObama-MI — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:26:42 GMT

What are other states doing?Texas claims all you have to do is sign in---We had to show picture ID in MI---course our votes still did not count.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

the Pajama Pundit — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:27:06 GMT

I'm not sure. I could go both ways on this one.

On one hand, it's really not that difficult to get an official ID (at least, not where I live).

On the other hand, I suppose that it could be burden to obtain an ID if you really don't need one except to vote.

An interesting debate. I'd be interested to see what others think.

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twocanpete — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:27:16 GMT

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The demcorats and republicans had better get a clue. The American people are sick of illegal immigrants. The next time you get pulled over for speeding just explain that you are an 'undocumented' race car driver and see how that logic works out for you!

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pat huntington ny — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:29:39 GMT

Republicans are going to say it's a no brainer to require govt issued ID as proof of who you are when you vote...but the reality is that this was a pretext for the real reason for the republican passed law - to suppress the democrat vote. Anyone else who says otherwise is disingenuous.

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Jersey Joe — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:30:24 GMT

This is bad news for the Democrats. Nearly one third of their votes come from illegal voters.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Cleo Todd Manhatten — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:32:03 GMT

Imagine that. Having to prove who you are before you can vote. Wonders never cease.

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Katie Morgan, Oceanside CA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:38 GMT

The Democratic drive to sign up illegals to vote for them all seems to have gone for naught. Nice try Dr. Dean. Better luck next time.

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HP Boston — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:44 GMT

Well, well, well, this is a blow! The young, the infirm, the elderly and the minorities of Indiana will suffer, will it hurt Barry or Hillary???
The poor OH MY GOD THE POOR!! How did this happen?
We truly live in a big brother Gestapo state.

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Pete Caloger Bushkill, PA 18324 — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:34:18 GMT

Your conservative Court at work for you - as long as you are one of them. And what is the Court's suggestion for assuring that those who are entitled to have one of these cards can get one? And when will this law now be able to go into effect in Indiana, May 6?

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Emma, Greenville, SC — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:34:56 GMT

Handicapped voters have picture ids so they can drive their Rascals. Why is it so hard for them to get a voter id card?

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Kim, Pasadena, CA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:35:10 GMT

This law was passed to suppress the vote of those who find it difficult to get around, whether they are elderly or poor of any color. Under this law, people who lack a driver's license have to go to their County Court House to get a state issued identification. If you are 80+, without a car, living in rural Indiana and your family is not in state, how exactly do you get to the County Court House? I am appalled that this law was allowed-- we are neither required by our State governments, or our Federal Government to carry identification on our persons -- but now, our Supreme Court is allowing barriers to be enacted to voting that require such identification? I had hoped they would reach a different verdict which supports the right of all of us to vote and prohibits the State from erecting false barriers to our ability to cast our ballot.

There will be 2-4 Supreme Court justice vacancies during the next President's term. Let us elect a Democrat who will appoint Justices who respect the right to vote, rather than electing a Republican who will appoint more justices who appear to believe that voting is a privilege and not a right.

The ballot can be protected without such harsh measures. Indeed, voting lists exist that poll workers check to make certain each and every voter is registered to vote. Sometimes these lists are abused as well, but the voter can still vote provisionally and provisional ballots are eventually counted if the voter is indeed a citizen and registered to vote in that State. This is more than enough protection of our process. This "new" protection is nothing more than an attempt to disenfranchise many who are poor or elderly (without transport or near family).

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Pat Huntington NY — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:36:39 GMT

And isn't it just ironic that Indiana stood to go Blue this November? There go the Republicans again...changing the rules for their own gain.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Yo Mami — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:49:16 GMT

What is a mystery is how 3 justices found reason to vote against this basic requirement. What is the alternative these justices agree with, anarchy?

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

William, Escondido, Ca — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:49:51 GMT

It has always bothered me that when I vote in San Diego County, I am never asked to prove my identity. IN theory, anyone could say they are me and vote in my name. The logic behind this law is flawless. There is no logic backing the opposition except the love of voter fraud.

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Dave, Tn — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:50:32 GMT

"They accused Indiana officials of passing the law to suppress the minority vote."

Of course they did, but it depends on which minority group you're talking about. The African American community will most likely benefit from this by not having illegal aliens weakening their vote.

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Dangling Chad, Mugwump, Florida — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:07 GMT

Now, you'll really hear the whining. Proper i.d. should be a federal requirement. I'm thrilled my home state of Indiana stood up for honesty in elections and the Supreme Court validated it.

The claim that seniors, the poor and minorities are at a disadvantage is a bunch of b.s. The Democrat party, as usual, tries to pull something.

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Bren Michaels — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:52:53 GMT

Democrats are steaming about this ruling. Signing up all those illegal aliens to the voting roles cost a lot of money.

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Friends of Bill — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:53:52 GMT

Democrats are so stupid.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Supo Marconi — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:55:18 GMT

Stevens must have had a senior moment of him, and for once in his life ended up on the correct side of the issue.

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Claky Wallace, San Francisco — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:34 GMT

Outragous! Stevens should have his vote suppressed.

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Mister Anderson (The Matrix) — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:57:34 GMT

In national elections, why isn't there a set national voter system? For every state to manipulate and dictate how it will conduct a national election has always been crazy to me. As someone with an ID, I don't have a problem with the law. But I can see how it can be manipulated to suppress turn out.

The funny thing to me is that Republicans always claim that this is a center right country, but they always go out of their way to restrict voting because they're scared that massive turnout will always work against them.

Go figure.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Carl, Kalamazoo, MI — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:59:32 GMT

Some people always try to use others as scapegoats to hide their devious intentions. The ID Law should scare Rush Limbaugh's rogue element from interferring with Obama's victory.

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Elly Weiss — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:01:50 GMT

Voter fraud. If you're a Democrat, you depend on it.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Mark, VA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:02:39 GMT

I am all for ensuring that the actual voter is the one voting and ID's is a good way to start, but I wonder would Obama or Clinton benefit more from this law?

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Steve, Springfield, Ill. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:04:05 GMT

I guess I'm not sure why it's harder for minorites and the disabled to get government IDs. I can understand the poor might have trouble with the $10-or-so fee, but that is only required every few years, right? So what's the problem?

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bill, okla — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:05:27 GMT

Oh how the government of the people does everything possible to quiet their voices. And this one is so timely.

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Tom in Miami — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:06:08 GMT

What a load of crap, no one is supressing the minority or poor vote. Just uber-liberal paranoia. It's really not that hard to get government-issued ID -- how could it possible affect the poor??

You don't have to get a driver's license, there's just paperwork; I don't know about other states, but in Florida it's cake to get an ID card if you're legal. That's like saying it's unjust to make drug tests mandatory for a welfare check (which is a GREAT idea, write your representatives on that one).

We need to get this law rolling in ALL states that don't have it, especially the ones with illegal immigration at its worst. Illegal aliens already cost us hundreds of billions in welfare, education, health care, lost revenue to legitimate workers; they make Iraq look like it's MAKING money. The last thing we need is them choosing our nation's leaders.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Woman Voter, Chicago, Illinois — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:10:23 GMT

I look forward to reading the Court's discussion of the distinction between poll taxes and photo ID fees, the Court's discussion of voter access to locations where photos and identity verification actually takes place if more distant than polling places, and the Court's discussion of state obligations to provide handicapped access to state services per ADA legislation.

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Deborah Greenlawn, NY — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:11:56 GMT

Could this Conservative Court have cut it any closer?
Nice swipe at many in the Dem. base and a still
active Dem. primary season.

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Gail Barkley,Jupiter,Fl — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:16:46 GMT

In Florida we have to show our DL before we sign in to vote.. Hey heres a thought why not put photos on votor registration cards??? That way you are registered and identified at the same time. No need to bring 2 cards to vote.

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nick in PA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:18:09 GMT

Does IN have free state ID's; how is forcing people to purchase (they do cost money at least in PA) an ID not a quasi poll tax (which last i checked the 24th amendment explicitly forbids). IN is saying a citizen now MUST give the government money (tax) for an ID to vote, seems unconstitutional...but im sure the SCOTUS is not seeing it that way, and i'll have to read their reasoning. The 24th amendment was to allow voting to be as barrierless as possible, this seems a step backwards.

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Independent Voter, FL — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:18:33 GMT

Tom in Miami

Great Post!!!

You are right. It is very easy to get an ID in FL (if you are a legal resident of the US).

I moved here from another state and I had my birth certificate to prove that I was a legal citizen.

In FL we have over 900,000 illegal aliens as reported by our politicians.

They should not be allowed to vote!!!

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Tony Naz, Des Plaines IL — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:18:57 GMT

The "poor" and "others" seem to have no problem signing up for govt handouts yet, when a simple program is enacted to help prevent voter fraud,one of our most fundamental rights, the democrats scream "Rights violation". Give me a break!

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PAT O BAYTOWN, TX. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:19:39 GMT

hey, the poor make it to the welfare office... they can make it to the court house or dps. the elderly could present their medicare card. this should have always been a law..maybe we wouldn't have had some of the jerks in the white house.
A DEMOCRAT

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patty,sd,ca — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:20:11 GMT

Chuck, why aren't you talking about the Q&A with Wright?

Is it true MSNBC IS OBAMA HEADQUARTERS?

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Doug, San Diego — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:21:10 GMT

All you bigots whining about illegal immigrants voting: how stupid can you be? If you were illegal, would you show up somewhere where you might be confronted with it and possibly detained? Do you think they are politically active and worry about who might enact more favorable laws? They're too busy working their a**es off and dodging La Migra to worry about it. Show me ANY case where this has happened? Any of you bigots out there with actual documented proof of the scary brown people conducting voting fraud? The fact of the matter is there is virtually zero instance of voter fraud, but many cases of disenfranchisement of legal voters, always tactics employed by the right-wingers. They know that if everyone gets motivated to vote, and votes in their own best interest, the Republican party is D.O.A.

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Diane Thomas — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:21:31 GMT

Mr. Wright, I choose not to consider him a man of the cloth, really showed his lack of decency and character. His rude and attacking responses to that poor unfortunate woman asking the questions showed his true character and meanness.

I can not believe the composure of the woman asking the questions. (Sorry I don't know her name). I believe he evaded the questions asked and I really belive now, he is a racist. Mr. Wright has attacked every white person that disagrees with him. What a showman, that wants to divide the country, not to unify. Is he deliberately wanting Obama to loose?

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Phil — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:22:10 GMT

"Your conservative Court at work for you - as long as you are one of them."

Yeah, nothing says "conservative" like a lead opinion by JOHN STEVENS!! Another "conservative" vote came from Justice Kennedy... author of the majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas announcing a right to homosexual sodomy.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:22:12 GMT

On this one, the Democrats are plain wrong, I think. Showing ID isn't too much of a burden.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:22:28 GMT

Elly Weiss (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:01 AM)

I guess the difference is that Democrats depend on individual voter fraud and the Republicans depend on Institutional voter fraud. The GOP probably would not have had to worry if their standards for Presidential candidates were a tad higher.

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Mkd — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:22:46 GMT

Great. The Republicans are going to cheat their way into the White House again. Not only are they pushing these voter ID laws that amount to a poll tax (gee, big surprise that the Bush / Regan Corporate Supreme Court presented to you by Cheveron upheld laws that would keep poor people away from the polls) the Republicans are also currently circulating petitions to get issues relating to abortion and gay marriage on the ballots to fire up their evangelical base (the big hypocritical "pro-life" base that is strongly in support of the death penalty and as many wars as Bush and McCain can declare...the big "support the Troops" hypocrites that don't support the G.I. bill...that base)

Fabulous. This is exactly the reason that - no matter which Democrat gets the nomination - we need to vote them in!!

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Kris STL — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:22:54 GMT

The law is two sided on one hand it can help to stop voter fraud. On the other hand it does opne up the dorr to stricter practices to proving your identity to vote. I am torn about how I feel. Personally I would like them to fix voter machines and spend more time and effor t in insuring that elections can not be bought or fixed.

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Stewart, Bethesda, MD — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:26:25 GMT

GOOD ...... NOW THEIR GOES HALF OF barack obama VOTING BASE

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JP, milltown, nj — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:28:42 GMT

this is a republic, not an unfettered one-man-one-vote democracy; it never has been. see the electoral college. see minority presidents.

the decision by the republican supreme court is many bad things, but it is not surprising.

we'll never get rid of the electoral college. the small states, which are over represented in the senate, will never allow it.

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DNC — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:29:57 GMT

Does this mean that illegals can't vote now? Gee, we've counted on them to be part of the Democrat vote for the past elections and were hoping they would help us to a victory in '08.

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Wright. C — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:08 GMT

Why now? They had 4 years to decide if they wanted an ID Check or not. Why now this close to the Indiana Primaries? Not only the Republcans stand to gain from this but Hillary as well. Hillary won Pennsylvania, but it wasnt enough to derail Obama, Obama stand a chance to win Indiana and it is said that he will win North Carolina. If he wins the next two it will be pretty much over, but if Hillary take one of them then it might be up for grabs. I feel this will place the poor, old and minorities at a disadvantage, those who are likely to vote for Obama, giving Hillary a advantage. The Republicans are not worried about Indiana right now, but Hillary certainly is. THINK PEOPLE THINK!

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jj — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:41 GMT

And isn't it just ironic that Indiana stood to go Blue this November? There go the Republicans again...changing the rules for their own gain.
Pat Huntington NY (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 10:36 AM)

Yes, how dare they take away the illegal vote!

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Rick, NC — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:50 GMT

You know what? We have to show an id to do almost anything in this country...if these so called poor people don't have photo id how in the heck are they getting government aid or services then? Or doing almost anything? They can't be so disconnected from society and then show up to be informed voters...

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Mel — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:32:16 GMT

Tom in Miami
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It's cake to get an ID, if you are legal and IF you have the money to pay for it. At $4 for a gallon of gas and with food prices escalating - believe me this poll tax will have its intended impact. And that is exactly what this is - it is a backdoor way to impose a poll tax. In case you are not aware a poll tax is - poll taxes are illegal, they were used historically to suppress the black vote. Gee, I wonder why the Republicans are coming up with this now. Believe me, it's got nothing to do with voter fraud. Recall, the Republicans have gotten help from the Supreme Court before in "winning" an election - looks like they are more than willing to help out again.

Actually - there is a comprimise here - the states imposing these laws should waive the fee for the ID, and they should be required to send out notices to everyone on the rolls and make several public service announcements during prime time and during the morning news hours regarding the new law - I'd be fine with that.

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Rich Schmidt, Valparaiso, Indiana — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:33:16 GMT

I live in Indiana. Your Bureau of Motor Vehicles will give you a photo ID for free. (Look it up on www.in.gov!)

As for making it difficult for those in rural areas with travel difficulties -- They'll have to travel to vote, won't they? If they can't get out to get an ID, they can't get out to vote, either. If they can get help with one, they can get help with the other.

If they're voting with a mail-in absentee ballot, they're not required to show photo ID. So what's the problem?

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Andress — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:33:22 GMT

Therefore, this is my theory. I know it is a little “out there” but here it goes.

I noticed Sharpten was stirring up the racial plot, Bill Clinton was saying Obama played the Race Card (when he said nothing), and we also have Rev. Wright back in the picture. Now, can this all be just coincidence? We also have most of the major News Media turning on Obama at the same time—coincidence? In addition, the Republicans and Fox news are just trying to throw wood on the fire—good for them.

However, what I see is this:

If “dirty” Hillary, can make the democratic nomination into a “race” issue where most of the whites for her, she will win. She knows she is not going to get the black vote, she is behind, so what has she got to lose—except her self-respect?

Moreover, this is why this situation is getting so out of control—the news media are all behind Hillary. The wealthy people who own the media are now blatantly throwing in their favor with Hillary. Lou Dobbs, Joe Scarface, even Keith O., all seem to be leaning towards Hillary and doing everything in their credit to discredit Obama.

The American Public see this; we are not dumb; and we as Why?

Why? The answer of course comes back to the Race Card.

Why—who has backed Clinton—and it looks like they are going to lose.

Follow the Money and we find the reason to Why?

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I_Want_John_Edwards_Back, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:35:08 GMT

I am fine with voter ID as long as it can not be used for anything else like tracking voters, party affiliations, etc., and is only required for those who do not hav a valid driver license. I am a registered Republican, although I vote as an Independent, and frankly some of what this administration has been doing looks too much like the "Big Brother" we have always been concerned about. Imagine what the Nazis could have accomplished if they had access to everybody's info in a huge database. I agree that preventing illegals from voting will probably hurt the Democrats. Obama has said that he would issue driver licenses to illegals. Hopefully that is not going to happen.

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Tim, Reading, PA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:35:24 GMT

I find it interesting when conservatives talk about how liberals want to expand government to huge degrees suddenly shut up and smile when they're able to create a national I.D. law comes up. Big Brother anyone?

The reason there are liberals pissed about this is because there is a history of conservatives surpressing the vote, especially minorites, to fufill their own goals.

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Keith Atlanta, GA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:35:55 GMT

It seems like a very reasonable decision and completely in line with the Constitution.

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Mel — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:36:59 GMT

And how VERY convenient that this ruling where Indiana is a party is handed down a WEEK before Indiana's primary.

Will this law be applicable to those voting in the primary?

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OBAMA SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY on one very important issue only ----

Hillary's public pronouncement that she would ... "‘totally obliterate’ Iran if Iran attacked Israel."

America needs to know each of their policies on this critical issue and then America can vote on whether

(a.) it is prepared to engage in an all-out nuclear war in the Mideast, and

(b.) if Hillary's response to ABC’s question was reasoned and appropriate.

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tired of it all, Seattle, Washington — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:38:08 GMT

I suppose this wil hurt both candidates, more so, hillary since the media continually reports the older/poor vote for her.

Whats with the timing of the decision, they will have less than a week to received photo i.d.; looks odd to me.

Obama08

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amr39, Washington, DC — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:39:43 GMT

The very idea of demanding picture ID to vote in this country is crazy. We already have one of the lowest voting rates--this can only decrease it.

Show me ONE study that documents large voter fraud based on invalid voting that could be stopped with an ID. Because you know if this was the problem people say it is, they'd have the studies to back it up.

Furthermore, were there such a study, they'd need to show IDs would help the situation more than hurt it. No one is required to have a government-issued ID just to be participating citizen. If that's the new rule, they'd better make IDs free and easy for citizens to get. Are they going to start extending hours at the DMV and staffing them such that there's little wait? Offering more locations to get an ID?

Voter fraud and voter irregularities ARE a problem. So let's make sure electronic votes have a paper trail. Let's make sure people aren't wrongly excluded from voting. Let's make sure "suspect" voters are offered provisional ballots. Let's make sure voting places are properly staffed with people and documents so that people don't just give up waiting and go home.

Make no mistake, the goal of this is to suppress voter turnout. If legislators were truly concerned with "counting every legitmate vote," there are a lot more proven ways to make that happen.

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Bratt — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:41:09 GMT

It will harm the first time voters.. and there in no enough time for them to get a state issued identification.For example, students could provide their students cards with addreess and everything... but without photos they can't vote..It's one of Clinton's dirty play again...

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OBwan, IN — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:43:21 GMT

I have not seen anyone from Indiana respond as of 11:10am

This issue is larger than the Voter ID - read as Driver License or state government ID for those who do not drive.

Sorry, your military ID is insufficient - it does not show proof of where you live.

Earlier this year the state was verifying drivers license to SSN's, birth certificates and other documents and kick thousands out of the system because errors. Those individuals were sent letters to pull their licenses and state ID. Let me make this clear these people were not illegal aliens - some were Native American.

Big brother is coming to a neighborhood near you.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:44:27 GMT

I suspect that this law is a way to suppress votes, but I mostly find it ironic that right-wingers, who are constantly harping on the evils of "Big Gummint" (despite neo-con Bush's building up the biggest Big Gummint since Roosevelt)while apparently having no problem with this Big Brother/Big Gummint solution.

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Stev Af Ut — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:47:50 GMT

Finally a actual way to prove we are actually American citizens. What a novel idea. This a step in the right direction finally some one in the governing branch is doing something right.

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big brother — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:50:15 GMT

your papers are not in order

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JimbObama, Poulsbo, WA — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:54:16 GMT

Just a continuation of Rove's stategy to suppress the vote. Repulicans know that the lower the vote total the more it favors them. If anyone thinks this up coming vote is more than just electing a woman or black Democratic President they better open their eyes to the big picture. This is about getting a President w/ long coat tails to change the face of the Supreme Court that actaully believes in the constitution and not corporate charters.

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HTR, Long Grove, SC — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:54:47 GMT

CW - { but I mostly find it ironic that right-wingers, who are constantly harping on the evils of "Big Gummint" }

You're right CW. We shouldn't have any laws. We should all just use the honor system.

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CHUCK STOWE BROWNSVILE TX. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:36 GMT

TOM IN MIAMI"""
YOU GOT IT STRAIT PAL ALL SHOULD HAVE A GOV. ID.
AND IF I SHOULD ADD TO THAT ANY ONE WITH A FALSE ID
OR IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING THEM SHOULD GET A PRISON TERM IN THE AMOUNT OF AS MANY LETTERS IN (FALSE IDENTIFICATION)19YRS.

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Carol, Long Valley NJ — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:57:16 GMT

How is this not a "Poll Tax"? In what universe can you deny that paying for a voting id is not a "Poll Tax"? If you have to pay to vote, it's a poll tax!

Where is the scrutiny on election fraud which is far more pervasive than voter fraud.

Where is the scrutiny on caging lists, no paper trail, and proprietary software for Diebolt voting machines?

uurrgghh....

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.

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concerned in Indiana — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:57:25 GMT

Did you know that this law does not apply to absentee ballots in Indiana? There is absolutely no requirement for any ID, much less a photo ID, to obtain an absentee ballot. You request one in writing or by phone from your county clerk's office and as long as that name is on the voter rolls, you are good to go. If voter fraud is really a problem, and in Indiana there is not much evidence it has been, why not worry about absentee ballot fraud?

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Joe (NJ) — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:57:43 GMT

Hey Wright C.:

"I feel this will place the poor, old and minorities at a disadvantage, those who are likely to vote for Obama, giving Hillary a advantage. "

Two out of those three groups vote for Clinton in large numbers (the poor and the elderly). The other group, minorities, votes pro-Obama in the AA community, and pro-Clinton in the hispanic community. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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The Truth — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:03:37 GMT

One Thing I like is that this is a free country and we can elect officials without war. Here's a reality check unless Obama loses this race outright and it is given to Hillary based on her "miscalculated math" by the media and back room politics, I can guarantee be any reasonable doubt that John McCain will become the next President. The African American community who is the most dedicated foundation of the Democratic Party will NOT vote for her and for the time use our Right to "BOYCOTT" our vote to prove that you can not take something without reprisals!!

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pat huntington ny — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:03:56 GMT

Simple solution ... DNC mail fliers to all the people in Indiana detailing how they can vote with absentee ballots which I assume, does not require a govt photo ID.

Also for the idiots who claim the dems want illegal aliens to vote, illegal aliens are too busy avoiding gov't contact...why would they ever show up to vote and expose themselves to deportation? They don't. The illegal alien thing is a false pretext for the real reason - suppress democrat voter turnout.

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HP Boston — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:07:25 GMT

If they're voting with a mail-in absentee ballot, they're not required to show photo ID. So what's the problem?
Rich Schmidt, Valparaiso, Indiana (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:33
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Well now there is the rub.. we can all do absentee ballots ....I MEAN ALL VOTERS!
That should take care of the whole matter, no need to go to the polls at all. No need to have the exit polls that are an intrusion on privacy, and the crap they spew about every last flea on your shoes!!
You the man Rich wish I thought of that!! I am going to volunteer and canvass all the nursing homes to make sure all get to vote via absentee ballot, no need to drag em out of bed. :)

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Cedric, Charlotte — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:09:43 GMT

I'm not against requiring ID at the polls. I don't think that its too much to ask for people who vote to still be members of society to the point where they keep ID on them, no matter the race or age, and I say that as an afr. amer. Obama supporter. Though I grant you that this favors Repubs.- if Dems can't get enough people to vote that can be properly ID'd, they don't deserve to win. Obviously I'm painfully aware of the legacy of literacy tests and poll taxes, but it's hard for me to see the equivalency here.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Mary Cadman-Canada. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:10:07 GMT

Hillary doesn't know where Bosnia is, with her stories all mixed up, etc. I wonder if she knows where Iran is. Then Bill makes excuses for her because she got the story mixed up due to being 60 yrs. of age, having travelled to so many countries. So have many other people at that age, travelled, and still get their stories straight. This was a terrible mistake, and certainly a lot of nonsense. I would not trust Hillary on Foreign Policy, or any other policy for that matter. She should get off "this trail", before she messes up another country, or war. Such nonsense, and waste of time and money. She can't take the heat, so get out of the kitchen Hillary. This is my advice.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

HP Boston — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:11:57 GMT

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

SEB — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:12:55 GMT

I'm not entirely sure what the big deal is. Someone enlighten me. I think you should be required to show an ID. NJ doesn't require an ID they just require a signature which is checked against a scanned copy of your voter registration card signature.

If I want to drive my vehicle, I must carry my DL ID with me. What's the difference?

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Mary Cadman - Canada. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:13:19 GMT

Voter fraud is nothing new, is it??? What happened to the Florida votes, with Clinton & Gore??? If that was not fraud, then what was it. Should we ask Al Gore once again. That was disgusting!!!!

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

JP, milltown, nj — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:14:07 GMT

The burden of traveling to a more distant BMV office rather than a conveniently located polling place is probably serious for many of the individuals who lack photo
identification. They almost certainly will not own cars, and public transportation in Indiana is fairly limited. According to a report published by Indiana’s Department of Transportation in August 2007, 21 of Indiana’s 92 counties have no public transportation system at all, and as of 2000, nearly 1 in every 10 voters lived within 1 of these 21 counties. Among the counties with some public system, 21 provide service only within certain cities, and 32 others restrict public transportation to regional county service, leaving only 18 that offer countywide public transportation....

For those voters who can afford the roundtrip, a second financial hurdle appears: in order to get photo identification for the first time, they need to present " ‘a birth certificate, a certificate of naturalization, U. S. veterans photo identification, U. S. military photo identification, or a U. S. passport.’" As the lead opinion says, the two most common of these documents come at a price: Indiana counties charge anywhere from $3 to $12 for a birth certificate (and in some other States the fee is significantly higher), that same price must usually be paid for a first-time passport, since a birth certificate is required to prove U. S. citizenship by birth. The total fees for a passport, moreover, are up to about $100. So most voters must pay at least one fee to get the ID necessary to cast a regular ballot. As with the travel costs, these fees are far from shocking on their face, but in the Burdick analysis it matters that both the travel costs and the fees are disproportionately heavy for, and thus disproportionately likely to deter, the poor, the old, and the immobile.

from KOS

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

HP Boston — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:15:12 GMT

OBAMA SHOULD DEBATE HILLARY ON ISRAEL ........... (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:37 AM)

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They will need birth certs and pic id's for a debate, sorry! Must submit ASAP! OBAMA SAID SO! DEAL OR NO DEAL!!

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Rich Schmidt, Valparaiso, Indiana — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:16:13 GMT

Would people PLEASE quite crying "poll tax"?!

You can get a photo ID for FREE in Indiana!

FREE!!!

It's frightening to see so many people express such strong opinions on something they know nothing about!

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Leslie, Virginia — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:17:49 GMT

Boy, this post sure brought out the hateful and spiteful in America. The poor are often elderly or infirmed who go once every few years to get their social security info updated. As a formal social worker I can tell you that many people can't make it to the DMV easily--whereas they vote at their local school or fire department. They often have no idea where their birth certificate is. They might not have access to public transportation.

What is the matter with you people? Have some charity in your heart for those less fortunate. With posters like this, the US doesn't need enemies. I am SO sick of people saying that voters are illegals, are you kidding me? They aren't about to come and vote and risk being caught! No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket, it's look out for #1 and screw everyone else! SHAME ON YOU!!

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

HP Boston — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:20:43 GMT

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

OBwan, IN — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:21:40 GMT

Steve, Springfield, Ill. (Sent Monday, April 28, 2008 11:04 AM)

The state Indiana ID does not cost. If there was a cost this would be considered a poll tax.

I stand corrected on a previous post the valid ID's for the state include Drivers License, Military ID, Passport, and Indiana photo ID.
A student ID from an Indiana State school must have the four requirements set by the state; photo, expiration date, name that conforms to voter registration, and issued by state.

Remember Chief Justice Roberts is an Indiana boy.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Pat Carfagno — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:26:41 GMT

The state of PA will provide you with an Id free at the DMV, even if you do not drive.

Not a problem.

Volunteers from your party will be more than willing to take anyone to get the appropriate ID and to register to vote and then to vote.

Again, NOt a problem.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

Steve, Springfield, Ill. — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:27:00 GMT

By the way, I believe that in Illinois, we're required to have ID on us at all times.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

What happened to government — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:27:13 GMT

Now this was really makes a lot since. Just go get fake ID off any street corner. I'm glad to hear my tax dollars are hard work what waste.

Supreme Court upholds voter ID law

joe clark — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:28:06 GMT

IT's the clear intent that sucks here is to DIS- infrancise non-republican voters. There was no great voter fraud in this state, ony ways to screw over poor voters!!! How much more American can they get. They should be soo proud.

I served as Judge of Election for 10 years in PA., and it becomes clear who is a valid voter and who isn't. You don't need these asinine laws to protect people. As judge, if a person did not satisfy me, I sent them to one of three judges holding court (assigned every election) in local police stations to get a court order to vote. They satisfied the judge, they came back with a court order, they voted. Simple and easy. However in this foolish waste of time law in Indiana, a person can still vote with a provisional ballot without a photo ID and come back 10 days later to attest to their identity (which still doesn't rquire a photo ID) IN the end this law is going to P iss people off and there will carloads going to court to attest to their identity and vote anyway. Note to the Bums: your still screwed!!!