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Suzy Iowa — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:23:53 GMT

Drip Drop..... its over! Obama/Biden08!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPev5sEdTjg

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Seth, Washington DC — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:24:09 GMT

End the madness Indiana, vote for Obama.

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Steve B. NewYork NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:26:23 GMT

Yeeeees ! A Clinton superdelegate SWITCHES to Obama !
Good stuff !
Thats the first one of the day !
DRIP DRIP DRIP

How many more to the magic number Chuck !You should start a count-down for us.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:28:17 GMT

Has Obama become Clinton? Interesting question. There's a lot behind it. If Obama's negatives rise through the roof, then a comparison with Clinton can be made, and he will share her unelectability.

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the Pajama Pundit — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:29:25 GMT

*** Maverick or Bush ally?
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Duh. Take a look at record.
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*** The good news for the Democrats is that Obama’s or Clinton’s numbers will go up if they can bring their rival’s voters back in the fold. But is that an “if” or a “when”?
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I would say that right now that is an "if". This is why I think that everyone should rally around their candidate NOW. End the primary. Start hitting McCain on everything from the war(s) to the economy and getting the job done. Enough of the infighting.
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*** Super switcheroo: A former Clinton-appointed DNC chairman, and early endorser of Hillary Clinton, has switched to Obama.
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Nice.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

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laughaday — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:29:28 GMT

PAUL V CLINTON---WHERE IS IT????

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Brooke Tunstall, Fort Mill, SC — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:30:37 GMT

Joe Andrew sess what everyone besides the Clinton's see: the race is over and prolonging it is hurting the party.

No matter which Dem you support, if you want what's best for the party in November, you know it's mathematically impossible for Hillary to win and she needs to quit, ASAP, so the party can come together to take back the WH and increase its majority in Congress.

At this point, Hillary's ego is hurting those chances and the party leaders need to make a loud statement to her that she needs to put the party before her own interests.

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TANGIE — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:30:55 GMT

I GUESS CARVELL WILL BE CALLING HIM JUDAS NEXT!!!

YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT...THE NEW GENERATION WANTS CHANGE!!! YOUR KIDS, MY KIDS THEY ARE THE FUTURE POLITICAL JUNKIES WHO WILL BE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY VERY, VERY SOON!!! SO GET OVER IT!!!

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:31:42 GMT

Ya think...?

Which has more bearing on this election? An irrelevant pastor who only is getting his 15 minutes of infamy because of tabloid journalism, versus the current sitting president. That's a tough one.

My follow-on question is whether the media is really surprised that voters care more about whether a candidate would continue or change current policies than some weird sort of pastoral McCarthyism.

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PRESIDENT McCAIN — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:32:05 GMT

We joke that Obama supporters are drinking kool aid, but one has to wonder what are they drinking at the DNC and what is Joe Andrew drinking? Are these radical liberals just losing their minds? Obama did not denounce his racist pastor until Wright stood up at the National Press Club and called Obama a LYING POLITICIAN! Well, that was just it for Obama! Never mind G-d D- -m America, or the government is giving blacks AIDS, but Wright called him a lying politician! We have to believe that Wright was not off his message on Monday. But Obama has changed his story - again! It's disgusting that a United States Senator sat in a church that supported and endorsed the views of Hamas, and with his silence and presence in the church gave legitimitacy to Hamas and Wright's preachings. But for the DNC and superdelegates to go to these lengths to support a candidate who obviously harbors racist anti-american views of our country, just shows how out of touch the radical left wing of the democratic party is with Americans. The DNC is doing a reenactment of the end of Thelma and Louise for the women, they must be really bitter with us....

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Linda. Boston, MA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:33:05 GMT

So basically what we've all feared is going to come true. Clinton STILL won't win the nomination, but now Obama is much more damaged than he would have been if Hillary would have done the math and conceded. Like so many have said, she'll take the party down trying to get the nomination, she doesn't care.

Right now, her ONLY chance is to get superdelegates to support her - and they have to do so by at least a 2:1 margin!!! But that is not what's been happening, even since PA Obama continues to roll in more endorsements than she does. If she can't get superdelegates to switch to her after all the bad press Obama has been getting, then it ain't gonna happen. The math is clear, and anyone with the ability to add and subtract can see that it's over.

But hey, at least she'll get the pleasure of crippling us against McSame before the goes out like a sore loser. Thanks Hillary, your party appreciates that.

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Dan, Madison, WI — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:33:50 GMT

Why isn't MSNBC exposing Hillary Clinton intentionally lying about Magnequench?

ABC News reported the facts of this story.

Hillary was told it happened in 1995. Bill Clinton allowed the smart bomb technology company to be sold to China. Hillary decided her only chance was to cover up the story and blame Bush.

This is a MAJOR news story!!!!

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Ron, TX — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:35:54 GMT

Clinton is trying to run for 2012. She knows that if she can drag Obama down long enough, smack his knees hard enough with a baseball bat, that she can damage him among Democrats loyal to her. It's disgusting, and it's exactly why this needs to stop. The Clinton campaign seems to think politics is a big game, but it has VERY real and VERY dangerous consequences. We cannot afford as a nation, both monetarily and status-wise, to continue the Bush doctrine through McCain any longer.

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LB, Virginia — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:38:25 GMT

Obama becoming Clinton? are you kidding? He may get negatives because of the Wright issue but he doesn't lie. Hillary is just getting her objective, kill O so she can run in 2012 He didn't but should have kicked her butt over Bosnia, Iran, etc! What feminist woman can vote for Hillary? I don't know one (and that's me, girls!) Women have get a grip. The woman has huevos on viagra, not the calm persona we need in the oval office!!!

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Jerry S. Oakland, CA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:39:11 GMT

I am really not surprised. A divisive Clinton is what is helping to divide the Democratic Party. And a pro-Iraq war McCain is what will scare voters away, who will recognize that McCain is actually a carbon copy of Bush and that the two men have so much in common: immigration and the wars in Iraq and Afghistan.
On the Wright issue, this controversy is being blown out of proportion. In other words, it is given too much attention while other pastors supporting the other candidates make even worst remarks. This has the potential of painting America as still divided, corrupt, racist, and less compassionate in the eyes of foreigners.

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Carole, New York — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:39:22 GMT

Where's the Clinton push-polling in IA and NC reporting, MSNBC?

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john doe, seattle wa — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:39:43 GMT

Obama will never be president, period.

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Ron, Athens, GA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:40:19 GMT

How is the Gang of 14 compromise an example of McCain being a maverick? The compromise resulted in a bunch of extremist Bush judges being confirmed ffs.

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Lyn — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:41:25 GMT

Did you guys include SD Rep Hill from IN last night to the tally

Thanks

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Sue, Shawnee — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:42:03 GMT

I hae Never seen it printed anywhere that Mr. Ayers was not charged or convicted of anything, that Barack was 8 years old when the government said all of those things about Ayers (and we all know that the government does not lie) And that Mr. Ayers is a professor at a college! They just said that Hillary was on O'Reilly and said that she would not have stayed in that church, but she stayed with Bill and who commited more against the Almighty, Rev. Wright or Bill? She is first class, sleeze.

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Walt, Ohio — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:42:41 GMT

linton Super-D/Bill Clinton DNC chair Switches to Obama:

User Comments

To all McCain supporters, Republicans, and Independents:
I'm sure you have been keeping up with the current Democratic primary. And I am equally sure you have read the fervent support from the backers of Hillary Clinton. They insist that the only way that McCain can win is if Obama is the nominee. In fact most are saying that they will vote for you if Obama wins the nomination.
Well McCain supporters, I have been "swayed" by their arguments about the upcoming election. In fact, here's your chance to "guarantee" your candidate the November election. Just vote for Obama in the upcoming Indiana and North Carolina primary (Indiana is an open primary). I "know" you don't want to face Hillary Clinton in the general election; and her supporters will support you in the fall.
So an obvious strategy would be to come out if force for Obama in the remaining two primaries. That way, you won't have to face the "formidable Clinton machine" in November; you can handle Obama, right? All the Hillary supporters' opinions on this blog says so.
If I were a McCain supporter, I would vote for Obama in every primary in order not to have my candidate to face Clinton. She would be scary in the general election. Kind of an "Operation Chaos" in reverse; but a strategy to insure McCain's election in the fall.
After all, Hillary and her supporters said so, so it "must" be true.

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sotiredofignorance — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:42:56 GMT

It is past time for the leadership of the Democratic party to take the Clinton campaign to task for their outrageous behavior. Good for Joe Andrew for speaking up. Are there any more super delegates out there with the same courage?

This needs to end,and soon. I have supported the Clintons in the past, and thought they were badly treated during the impeachment. But no more.

I have never thought that it would be good for the Presidency to be passed down in families. It is time for the Clintons to do the right thing and end this. Senator Clinton will not have a prayer of running again given her behavior. She has shredded her reputation.

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Mel, PA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:43:05 GMT

Hey Chuck Todd - are you going to cover the Magnaquench story at all today? Seems it was Bill Clinton that sold them out to China!

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Walt, Ohio — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:43:16 GMT

To all McCain supporters, Republicans, and Independents:
I'm sure you have been keeping up with the current Democratic primary. And I am equally sure you have read the fervent support from the backers of Hillary Clinton. They insist that the only way that McCain can win is if Obama is the nominee. In fact most are saying that they will vote for you if Obama wins the nomination.
Well McCain supporters, I have been "swayed" by their arguments about the upcoming election. In fact, here's your chance to "guarantee" your candidate the November election. Just vote for Obama in the upcoming Indiana and North Carolina primary (Indiana is an open primary). I "know" you don't want to face Hillary Clinton in the general election; and her supporters will support you in the fall.
So an obvious strategy would be to come out if force for Obama in the remaining two primaries. That way, you won't have to face the "formidable Clinton machine" in November; you can handle Obama, right? All the Hillary supporters' opinions on this blog says so.
If I were a McCain supporter, I would vote for Obama in every primary in order not to have my candidate to face Clinton. She would be scary in the general election. Kind of an "Operation Chaos" in reverse; but a strategy to insure McCain's election in the fall.
After all, Hillary and her supporters said so, so it "must" be true.

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Terry, IN — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:46:29 GMT

A portion of the damage to the Democratic can be attributed to the media. Every microscopic flaw, slip of the tongue, or scandal, becomes a hot issue. Every pundit that can be found, is brought in to re-hash the dirt. It goes non-stop, 24/7, for days, or until something juicier pops up. It doesn't matter who, or what, suffers.

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MSierra, SF — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:46:41 GMT

'...But has she really? No. Not really. Not unless you throw out the existing rules of the Democratic Party and invent a new set of Hillary Rules...'

Say ANYTHING !!
LIE !!
Make up your own 'facts'

It's the Clinton rules.....

Would you buy a used car from Hillary Clinton ?

From Politico.com:

'...First, Clinton does not lead Obama in the popular vote. It is a fantasy.

Second, the people she most needs to convince that this fantasy is true are the people least likely to believe it.

Let’s first deal with Clinton’s fantasy lead in the popular vote.

“I’m very proud that as of today, I have received more votes by the people who have voted than anyone else,” Clinton said the day after her victory in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

But has she really? No. Not really. Not unless you throw out the existing rules of the Democratic Party and invent a new set of Hillary Rules.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton counts the popular vote in Michigan, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot. The Democratic Party does not recognize those votes.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton also counts the popular vote in Florida, where candidates were forbidden to campaign. The Democratic Party does not recognize the results of the Florida primary, either.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton throws out the “votes by the people who have voted” in the states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, because those were caucus states, where popular vote tallies were not officially kept and where, by the way, Obama won three out of the four contests.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton gets to choose the contests that help her, throw out the contests that do not and declare herself the winner.

Steve Kornacki of The New York Observer did an excellent, detailed story last week on Clinton and the popular vote, going through a number of different scenarios and projections for the contests that remain.

His conclusion: “The point is that under the most basic and probably the fairest criteria — simply counting every state and U.S. possession where there was a legitimate primary or a caucus where popular votes were tallied — Obama will finish the primary season hundreds of thousands of votes ahead of Clinton.”...'

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Thu, 01 May 2008 13:47:57 GMT

SHE IS IN IT TO WIN IT AND WIN IT SHE WILL.hillaryclinton.com . ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION FLOOR IF NECESSARY.

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:48:28 GMT

How can Mcwar, a Bush clone, get the dirt of Bush off him? He CAN'T!! He's too married to the man and his stupid ideas, and no one wants four more years of that crap. And Mcshame just can't get away from that.

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Brother odd — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:48:32 GMT

Mccain shows his lack of intelligence by keeping his bushlike policies. Does this man really think he can be elected?

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Be Real, NY, NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:49:13 GMT

Can someone tell me why this story isn't being reported?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1

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KW,Philadelphia,PA — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:49:24 GMT

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA- I would respectfully disagree...Barack Obama is not doing anything negative- he speaks the truth about issues...negative is when you take something that has nothing to do with an issue- just to try and slander one's name..that's exactly what Hillary has done and continue to do....Barack can not just stand by either and allow Hillary to hack at him - without any sort of response..because if he does that..then you, Hilllary and John's supporters and the media will call him weak, or a wimp. He will and have to defend himself..but he will do it tastfullly and respectfully....DON"T BE Confused and do try to cause confusion...WE ALL KNOW BETTER

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Jo, High Point, NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:50:41 GMT

You what annoys me with the Chuck Todd's of the MSM? (I rarely get published anyway so this is just to vent. If I made inane comments about Obama being in bed with wright or something equally dumb I may get published more)Going into PA Hillary and her over 20 point lead spelled was impossible for Obama to crack into. They said Pre PA Primary (PPP) that if she wins by less than 10 it would be trouble for her... Low and behold her win was just under 10 now the pundits (not all but the louder ones) are proclaiming that "he can't close the deal" like she he lies all day long.

They "cling" to Reverend Wright like it's the last hope they have of keeping this "un-entitled" candidate far away from any prospects of the white house. They were all fine with Obama the candidate when they thought no way in H-E-double hockey sticks he would be the nominee. But when it started to look Barack may actually have a real shot they quickly turned.

Hillary has told numerous lies and her using the windfall for a gas tax holiday amounts to nothing but pandering to they who don't feel the need to look past ads and soundbites for the MSM. Do they (the chuck todd's Joe "i was in congress" Sacarborough, Pat "no way a black person gets to sit at the desk in the oval office" Buchanan, David Gregory and most of CNN and all of Fox focus on her lies and pandering? NO!!! That would be too much like right. It makes more sense to focus on a loon who isn't running for office because they cannot beleive that Obama didn't know everything his pastor of 20 years thought. Now there are people who have been married for longer who don't really know their spouses (cough *Hillary* cough) and other members of that church who had no clue of those incendiary comments but no it's all about barack's minister.

If Barack wins NC by any margin less than 15 I'm sure the media knuckleheads will again be singing he can't close the deal. The fact that IN is similar to PA in demos seems to escape them as well in their talk about Barack should win that state.

I'm glad that people are leaving Hillary's lear of lies and showing support for not only change but a candidate who actually thinks before he acts or speaks. That gas tax holiday thing shows she will say whatever is necessary to get elected and the media is only too happy to help her.

I'm sick of 'em all!! Well not all...Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow and even Chris Matthews at times are alright...

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Ismael, Weslaco TX — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:51:38 GMT

Paul v. Clinton where is it?

HRC ties to black revolutionaries while at Yale, where is it?

HRC criticizing Indiana plant closings approved by Bill when he was in office, where is it?

This probably won't post. I've posted this many times but First Read will not show it.

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Pat Yount, Scottsdale AZ — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:52:58 GMT

Bush has done a terrific job in hos eight years. He had a lot of cleaning up to do after the Clinton administration. Lowering taxes is always a good idea, and he brought back status and dignity to the office. A great man.

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Class warrior, D.C. — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:54:51 GMT

I agree with the superdelegate who says "a vote for Clinton is a vote to continue a process that is tearing the Party apart." Good for him for speaking truth to the Clinton Machine's power!!

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CitizenJ — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:54:50 GMT

Mark or Chuck,

McCain has not broken from Bush on torture. He recently voted against a bill that would have banned waterboarding.

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MobileMan — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:55:43 GMT

FR -- Just ssking: But when is Clinton going to talk an Obama superdelegate into switching? --

Won't have to. We saw all of Obama's friends/delegates come out and support him over the Wright issue (NOT!). Support for Obama is soft. When he loses both Indiana and North Carolina next week, you'll see a shift back of delegates back to Clinton.

Drip, drip, drip.

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Operation Chaos Supporter — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:56:08 GMT

I have been a faithful supporter and follower of Rush Limbaugh and Operation Chaos since its beginning. The original purpose of Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos was to create enough chaos in the Democratic nominating process to keep the process going as long as possible. It is an effort to sufficiently damage the eventual democratic nominee, Barack Obama, and make him unelectable in fall. Operation Chaos has worked brilliantly. In Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania, Operation Chaos supporters were able to deliver the states to Senator Clinton thereby denying Senator Obama a decisive claim to the nomination. But we are now at a crossroads. Operation Chaos has been able to sufficiently damage Senator Obama and make him unelectable in the fall but in the process, Senator Clinton has been getting a free ride and is now seen as a stronger candidate than John McCain. We must not let this happen. It is time to end the Democratic nomination and make sure Senator Obama is the nominee. This will ensure that John McCain will win in November. Therefore I urge all Operation Chaos members to switch their support and vote for Barack Obama on Tuesday, May 6th. Operation Chaos has succeeded in making Senator Obama unelectable. We must now make sure Senator Clinton doesn’t get a chance to win in November. On May 6th, vote for Senator Obama.

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thats a fact jack — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:57:41 GMT

mccant is just a bush in sheeps clothes a vote for maccant is a vote for bush and war war war.

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Rambles Jennings, Albert Lea MN — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:58:01 GMT

Hillary is a great closer. Barack is poor at it. He's just limbing along.

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Michael — Thu, 01 May 2008 13:58:45 GMT

A month ago, Obama is so brave for not distancing himself from Wright

Now, Obama is so brave for distancing himself from Wright.

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Voter — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:01:18 GMT

Andrew is switching for "whats best for the Democratic Party". He should have done what's best for the Nation, and stayed with Clinton. He doesn't sound like someone who is going to be crossing party lines to do what's best for the country.

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Liz,NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:01:52 GMT

Walt - Thanks for the great post today!

Obama '08

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Pete - Albany, NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:02:01 GMT

*** Super switcheroo: A former Clinton-appointed DNC chairman, and early endorser of Hillary Clinton, has switched to Obama. Indianapolis native Joe Andrew told the AP, "I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it's now bad for the Democratic Party.” He said he is switching, then, because "a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists (Republican) John McCain."

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Sorry, Clinton Supporters, but that's gotta hurt. The defection of a superdelegate is bad enough. To lose one who was appointed by Bill Clinton is worse. But then he tops it off with his statement that a vote for Senator Clinton is a vote to "continue the process" signals to me that he thinks this should be over.

Ouch.

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Anna, Ann Arbor, Michigan — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:03:24 GMT

Joe Andrews is an idiot. A good part of the anger of the Clinton suppporters and their growing disaffection from the Democratic Party stems from the sense that Democratic powers that be from Dean, Pelozi, Brazille have been blantantly biased for Obama. Joe Andrews decision to be disloyal and desert the candidate he thinks is best will only fuel this perception.

Obama cannot win in Novemeber.

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Jon, TX — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:03:27 GMT

John Doe, Seattle, WA
Don't be afraid to give your name unless your reasoning for opposing Obama is out of bigotry. Don't feel discouraged from pointing out facts, not just name calling or hatred.

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Diane from Illinois — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:04:34 GMT

Pat Yount of Scottsdale AZ,

What are YOU smokin'? Is that why Bush's popularity is at 30%.....because he's such a great man? Give us all a break and cast your vote for McCain today and turn back into Limbaugh's radio station. The rest of us will be voting for Obama for change from the past 8 glorious years under thw worst President this nation (and the world)has ever known! It will take Obama 4 years to regain the respect of the world after the pathetic Bush/Cheney years. Geesh!

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John — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:04:36 GMT

Interesting comments. Thanks for posting.

From writers of...
http://www.miroadvantage.com/blog

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Laura, VA — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:04:39 GMT

Obama has been beat up for weeks by the media while Clinton and McCain have gotten free passes, and he still leads McCain in some of these polls, and still has higher favorables than Clinton. That gives me confidence that once McCain gets the scrutiny Obama (and earlier Clinton) have gotten he should have no problem defeating McCain. If the press would do its job and cover real issues McCain would not have a prayer.

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Alan G., Washington DC — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:05:38 GMT

Looks like the economy is regaining it's speed. Just when is that recession supposed hit again?

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Pam G, IL — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:05:51 GMT

Can someone is the media please cover the pending civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!

I need to have some clarity on this issue as a voter.
Is this not an issue to consider?

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Gregory Peek, Birmingham, Alabama — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:06:40 GMT

America would be enjoying peace and prosperity if only recent presidents had possessed the qualities of Barack Obama:

SLOW to disown those he disagrees with.

SLOW to disown those who disagree with him.

SLOW to demonize.

SLOW to begin unnecessary wars.

The prosperity comes when our nation's resources are not funneled into the increasing spiral of war.

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Michael Huppman (Folsom, PA) — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:07:01 GMT

I must say that the sample sizes for these polls are not substantial enough. Are any of these polls cumulative? If so, what is the total population polled? Tens of millions of voters with a sample size of 100K cumulative? Please bring some real polls to the table. Thanks.

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Truth for Our Times — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:07:04 GMT

Hillary went negative first.. nationally with her comment about "your slum lord support ...Rezko " connection..
Lesson learned...People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

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Bob, Chicago — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:07:06 GMT

Got it....your not running the Ind. Magnet story because it doesn't contain the word WRIGHT in it. I think we all see what is going on at MSNBC.

Bob, Chicago

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dbv2 rehoboth beach de — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:09:43 GMT

just a note Obama according to reports just out will pick up another three superdelegates .Msnbc needs to fix the count again

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Rose Sadlemyer — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:11:10 GMT

Dan, Madison, WI- MSNBC hasn't reported on the Magnequench story or the robocall story in North Carolina because they don't want to interupt the Rev. Wright coverage. ABC also did a report on the robocall story, but at that time they did not know who was behind it. We now know it is a group of Clinton supporters. See story in Huffington Post. Save your breath people, MSNBC is going to ride the Rev. Wright story all the way to the convention.
Rose,Omaha

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:11:45 GMT

McCain winning on Values means 4 more years of Bush. This Country is so stupid. It's going to elect another Bush based on Values. Values don't put food on the table; they don't reduce taxes; they don't save the environment. What do values mean? If you aren't white anglo saxon evangelical bible beating christian, you have no place in this country. If that's the case, then where can I get my emmigration papers for Canada or England?

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J. Doe — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:14:06 GMT

Letter to MSNBC

Enough is Enough!

I'm now forced to watch CNN in the mornings and at night because they aren't driveling Wright's name every three seconds. We had the deadliest month in Iraq, over 80,000 jobs lost last month, inflation, etc., not counting Hillary's pastor molests a seven year old girl and you would rather waist our time with race baiting rather then worried about our kids? Get over yourselves.

Being I work for a media based company with over five thousand domain names, I understand ratings, I have to do reports on them... I will be forwarding this email to every friend and Obama group I can find. So, pay attention to your ratings as my intent is now a kitchen sink strategy.

Enough is Enough, I'm done with MSNBC

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We need to WIN this election, nominate Hillary! — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:14:21 GMT

Obama-Rama-Ding-Dongs want to "quick-foot" the nominating process before their boy is fully vetted.
NOT SO FAST PEOPLE! There's no hurry here, the general election isn't until November.
We don't need to make a quick decision, we need to make the RIGHT decision.
It's clear that Obama will get beaten badly if we run him in the fall. The Wright controversy, 'Tony Rezko,' and his association with domestic terrorist William Ayers will do him, and our party in. If his campaign is falling apart NOW, imagine what will happen in September when the Republicans ratchet up the rhetoric against him.
Hillary may have her own baggage.
But, we know what to expect from her, and we know what they're going to attack her with.
They've been doing it for 16 years, and she's still standing.
I was undecided until two days ago. Now I'm absolutely convinced that Hillary is the right candidate.

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bill, okla — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:14:46 GMT

Mission accomplished....America the mediocre. The marble mouthed low IQ'd Bush has certainly been the worst president in memory. McCain would only further America's progression to 3rd rate.

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shirley, san jose, ca — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:15:06 GMT

Why isn't your front page telling the public more about Iran's complaint to the United Nations about Hillary's comment that she would obliterate Iran? This is real news are you reporter's or part of Hillary's campaign. I am disgusted with MSN.

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The Truth — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:17:57 GMT

What happen to Hillary having to win every state by 58% to even have a chance at becoming the president beginning with OH and TX....It didn't happen....What's going with the media???? Something is stinking in this room and they're the only ones left?

First thoughts: McCain's Bush problem

Lloyd Brown — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:20:02 GMT

Like the first writer. its over. Obama and hope Biden is with him 57%. McCain 43%.
Give it up Hillary

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Olga, Oswego, NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:21:46 GMT

"Clinton closes, like in the last few primaries.."?
What are you talking about?
It would have been decent of you (something I don't think MSNBC is capable of anymore) to report the true story about PA. The story is how Obama closed the once 27% lead that she had and narrowed it to 9. That is the true story. It is funny how when Clinton is closing in on a lead you are screaming it from the roof tops. Your constant barage of coverage about "Obama's bad news" was unprofessional and contrived. You helped to create a mountain where their was none.
I have not turned my television to your channel since the PA primary. Your reporting is unprofessional in that you do not report the facts. Why are you so scared of the Clintons? I just don't get it. We have such an opportunity to move in a new direction and something holds you back. Again, why are you so afraid of the Clintons that you cannot and do not report all the news?

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Joyce in Lincoln, NE — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:23:01 GMT

Here’s a story that if it is picked up by the mainstream media – as was the Reverend Wright story – could turn the momentum in Indiana.

Last night ABC reported about the closing of a defense industry plant in Valparaiso, IN and its move to China. This event was important not only because of the lost jobs, but also because it appears that some important, proprietary defense-related technology also may have been compromised.

Hillary Clinton has mentioned this event several times over the past couple weeks and attempts to put the blame at the feet of the Bush administration. The only problem with her storyline is that the selling of this company to the Chinese, which led to its eventual move to China, initially okayed by President Clinton. The Clinton administration gave their approval despite protestation from several defense experts concerned about the loss of a key defense technology. Even Senator Bayh has put the blame on the Clinton administration.

Of course, Hillary conveniently forgets to mention this part of the story. I understand that she is not Bill Clinton. But why not be truthful with the American people? Why the deception? Does she just think we are dumb or what? She cannot be trusted.

This story is so much more important than the Reverend Wright story. Hopefully, the media will take notice.

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Houston — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:25:44 GMT

MSNBC and the other corporate media outfits won't report on this, but it is a MAJOR story:
John McCain has gotten away with the bald-faced lies that he has always been critical of the Bush administration's conduct of the Iraq war and that he always said it would be "tough."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-bergmann/five-years-since-mission_b_99398.html

This article shows McCain_repeatedly_ parroting the White House line that the war would be short and easy and could be won with a number of troops that was small relative to the 1991 Gulf War.

McCain never criticized the conduct of the war or Sec. of Defense Rumsfeld until it became apparent to the most clueless idiot that it was a complete disaster around 2006.

Sorry to interrupt your wall-to-wall coverage of the Rev. Wright, but it might be of concern to some folks that the man the corporate media wants to see installed in the White House is a clueless idiot, a warmonger with atrocious judgment, and a liar to top it all off. If this guy gets elected, people might get nostalgic about the good old days when Bush was president.

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Gramma Lilli, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:27:09 GMT

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE. We do not need the Clintons again, Hillary & Bill are a twofer. Bill does not exhibit self control, he still gets red faced and wags his finger at us. Remember Monica. McSame has a short fuse and possibly some senior moments. Obama is thoughtful, has intellect, discipline and a sense of curiosity that would serve him well as a leader.

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Riley Grimes, Washington,DC — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:28:58 GMT

So now the polls are measureing the 'enthusiasm' of the voters when they vote for one Democratic candidate versus the other.

I reminded of Richard Nixon's response to the statement that the voters would not 'pull the voting lever very hard.' "It doesn't matter how hard they pull the lever, all that matters is that pull the lever for you.?

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BJ, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:29:42 GMT

I encourage anyone that has submitted comments to MSNBC.com’s First Read and has seen very few of their comments posted, if at all, unlike the names listed above, to write an actual letter, not email, but a traditional letter that you mail through the United States Post Office to Phil Griffin the Executive in Charge of MSNBC and voice your outrage at not only the way that the editors of First Read deliberately post 98% of only Pro-Obama comments, but the way people like Mika Brzezinski can’t conduct herself in a professional and objective manner.

Phil Griffin’s address is

Phil Griffin
Senior Vice President, NBC News
Executive in Charge, MSNBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112

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nuanced — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:30:07 GMT

27% approve of Bush’s job

This really scares me. Just knowing those people are out there and that I might be near one of them. They are either seriously delusional or else they are sociopaths. Whenever I see a vehicle with a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker I give it a wide berth. These are people who hate America and what it stands for. They don't believe in: the constitution, the bill of rights, the separation of powers, an independent and fair justice department, and non-partisan courts. They do believe torture, lifetime imprisonment without trial, wars of agression, killing thousands of innocents, and a secret police state.

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JB, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:31:16 GMT

Please report on this Robocall story here in NC. It has been reported by our local Raleigh NBC affiliate that a group with strong ties to the Clintons has been caught making Robocalls to NC African-American voters giving them BOGUS voting info. The NC Attorney General is looking into it. What happened was that blacks were receiving calls from a man calling himself "Lamont" telling them to WAIT to vote until they received a voting packet in the mail. The problem is that these packets were for absentee voting which expired almost a month ago. We DO have a short period with same day registration/voting which started about a week ago and goes until this Saturday - but these calls did not mention that. Instead they were telling people to WAIT to vote until they received this packet!! These calls have been traced to a group called "Women's Voices, Women's Votes" whose president just sent a large contribution to Hillary's campaign and whose Executive Director worked for Bill Clinton in his 1992 campaign and whose Attorney helped in Bill's Impeachment defense. I hope the MSM will check into this.

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Bob, Alexandria, VA. — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:33:12 GMT

Chuck, what am I missing? "...if Clinton closes as she has in the last few primaries..." Wasn't it Obama who "closed" in Pennsylvania -- from a 20 point to a 9.4 point gap? Did she "close" in SC? Virginia? Maryland? Where?

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Terrell, Purdue — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:33:16 GMT

McCain has a John Sidney McCain problem, and the only thing that Dems have working against them is that they (both) actually said he was going to be a formidable candidate. Wow. And I can’t believe HRC tried to come after Barack for saying he thought he would be better than Bush 43. Now the American people think higher of JSM that JSM probably thinks of himself. I bet 3 months ago McCain was thinking to himself, "How can I win this election??? I am a Republican who supports many of Bush's policies, I said we may be in Iraq for 100 years (which I believe was taken out of context), I'm a maverick, and no I don't play along side Dirk Nowitzki, I'm old and I have admitted I don't know much about the economy. I don’t believe we are in a recession although credible sources have stated we are. I'm not sure if I said this earlier but I'm OLD. I made a speech about the economy which proved in its entirety how I do not know much about the economy. I’m had a senior movement which I forgot about that speech and hopefully the American people have as well. I’m on the campaign trail and no one really knows about me. Mitt Romney made me look worse than Barack did on ABC at a debate in earlier this year in FLA. I secretly wish I had the mind of Ron Paul. Mitt Romney would have better electability than me even after what happen in Texas. I can’t choose my running mate because I forgot who’s in congress. I say “my friends” in most of my speeches because that’s my slang for “whats up dawg”----I’m hoping it’ll help me bite into a little of Barack’s youth vote. I’ve admitted that HRC and I are very good friends. (Me speaking-If I were VP I don’t think I could say the same) AND, not only can I not get any of my rehearsed words on al qaeda in Iraq right, but I think I’ll forget that the US is in a war in Iraq.

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Expelliarmus, OH — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:33:19 GMT

Lie down with dogs; get up with fleas.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:33:37 GMT

"This brings Obama the closest he’s ever been to Clinton in the superdelegate total."
--Seriously FR, every day brings Obama the closest he's ever been to Clinton's superdelegate total. (Maybe with the exception of the first days of this rat race).

I opt to defend Clinton on her choreographed carpool and coffee experience. Because I give her points for doing it.

I shun Clinton on her gas tax position. Once the candidate of the economy, she is proving to be more the candidate of pander. AND also proving to be about as in tune with the economy as 'I don't know nuttin' McCain'. AND her position is not very green, I guess her environmental speak is merely pander as well--economically, I understand, that it would be smart to maintain the gas tax and refund $25 some other way if that is what she wants to do. Pander and dishonesty will get her nowhere.

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WAKE UP PEOPLE! Obama will LOSE in November if we nominate him — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:35:01 GMT

Laura, VA...please get real, I beg you!
Obama has gotten nothing but puff-ball treatment by the media up until now.
Fidelity to one's country, and respect for its' customs and courtesies ARE issues; as is the associations that one makes while rising to any position of power in the government.
It's clear that Obama was not fully vetted, and that he cannot handle the pressure. He has flip flopped on the subject of his pastor. First he said he could no more disassociate with him than he could someone in his own family.
Two days ago he threw him under the bus.
We could have accepted that a month ago.
But instead he gave a disenguous lecture on race in America, and told us we all have to be more tolerant.
It's one thing to say, "okay this is enough, I'm getting off at the next stop."
It's all entirely different to continue riding the train when you know full well it's heading in the wrong direction,....THEN blame the engineer or the conductor because you ended up far away from where you wanted to go.
Obama knew that guy for 20 years. Went to his services every Sunday, and listened to everything he had to say.
He knew full well what he was all about and he wasn't going to dismiss any of it unless/until it started to hurt him in the polls.
When it did he cut Wright loose.
I'm sorry, but that isn't leadership, and we certainly don't need someone with that kind of "character" in the White House.
I'll be supporting Hillary for the nomination, thank you....you should be too!

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Renee, Atlanta, GA — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:37:35 GMT

Valid question! Why aren't you reporting this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1

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Renee, Atlanta, GA — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:40:47 GMT

"Bush has done a terrific job in hos eight years. He had a lot of cleaning up to do after the Clinton administration. Lowering taxes is always a good idea, and he brought back status and dignity to the office. A great man."

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Okay. This totally made me giggle. This HAS to be irony and satire.