Clinton camp plays electability card

L.Cruiz — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:10:35 GMT

We do not support O'Bama because of what his preacher said....we do not support O'Bama because of what HE DID NOT DO...He did not stand up for America...by complacently remaining in that church, he complacently accepted all the rhetoric...including the Damning of America....his lack of judgment, poor decision making skills, inablity to stand up for America in his own church,.. for 20 LONG years, tell us alot about O'Bama's character!!!!!!!! ...and he wants to be our commander in chief, the highest office in our country...YOU HAVE SERIOUSLY GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!

This so called rev. was his mentor, spiritual advisor,like one of his family...and O'bama refused to give him up until the voters began to give him up!!!! I do not believe O'Bama's "words" anymore!!!!!

We see no plans either...lots of talk...learned to captivate audiences from his spiritual mentor...watch his verbal inflections and gestures!!!
He is NOT electable!!
Hillary '08

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Deborah Greenlawn, NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:12:15 GMT

And Ickes is doing a heckuva job on those delegates.
How many more did Sen. Obama nab since PA?

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Mel, PA — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:12:17 GMT

Hillary supporters, I would really like for one of you to answer how you feel about Magnaquench and Hillary's quote from TV last night "Rich people, God bless us.."

I would really really like to understand how you hear these things and still think she's "one of us" and is "fighting for us".

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wds, Knoxville, TN — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:13:01 GMT

Do these polls include how many will boycott the election if she is given the nomination?

As far as Obama supporters are concerned, HRC and McCain are the same. So why vote for either of them.

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New Independent — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:13:29 GMT

So now they want the superdelegates to vote for the way the polls go and not the votes? What a joke and how desperate are they?

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OBwan, IN — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:14:50 GMT

BS walks and money talks. Who is raising the most campaign money?

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ron — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:15:44 GMT

If she gets the nom without the most delegates she will lose in November. This is not a heirarchy.

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..THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT... — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:16:03 GMT

As for electability, a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Hillary is dishonest. ---Think about that --- Only 4 in 10 voters do not think she lies when she needs to. A majority hold an unfavorable view of her. Will those numbers improve if she wins the nomination and Republicans resurrect the Clinton scandals, like the Bill Clinton sexual affairs and her Bosnia lie?
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The Clintons were a disaster for the Democratic party throughout the 1990s. When Bill Clinton became president, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors when he arrived, 21 when he left. Hillary’s 2008 presidential campaign has always been about the Clintons’ own self-interests. Hillary has deliberately tried to undermine Obama’s electability in the general election, knowing that could be ruinous for the Democrats in November.

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John S — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:16:10 GMT

We keep getting these specious arguments from Clinton: now it is 'electability'. Before it was 'most votes cast', and 'large states',
Will someone break the news to her that it is number of delegates that decides the winner. Not popular vote (although Obama has that), not number of primary victories (although Obama has that), not caucuses won (although Obama has that).

In about 10 days he will overtake her in superdelegates, which is the only measure she has left.

She lost on the gas tax fiasco, when she could even pump her own gas - didn't know how -, or get herself a cup of coffee in the mini-mart, (didn't know how).

What a waste of our time. Even the GOP is ignoring her.

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Carol, Long Valley NJ — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:16:15 GMT

It's too early to play your cards yet, you still need over 210 superdelegates to Obama's approximately 80. That's almost 3 to 1.

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for the environment, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.

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KJ, Dallas, TX — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:17:15 GMT

These ratings are expected since the media is STILL making this the main political issue. I expect the numbers to go back to normal sometime next week because Sen. Obama is back to talking about important issues that "should" concern voters. Sen. Clinton unfortunately can bask in the sun a little longer, but the inevitable is going to happen sooner or later.

OBAMA, 2008!

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ya know — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:17:26 GMT

now show how many popular votes she has, how many delegates she has. Popular votes shouldn't even count, but we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

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Marsha Stevens, Waco Texas — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:17:37 GMT

Obama has taken an absolute beating. We knew he was inexperienced, but now he looks it. No more abstract speeches Barack, now we need hard core ideas, and you have shown that you have none. Throw on this Wright issue, and it all adds up to you being just another left wing loon. We need someone that will defend America, and that's not you. You can't even figure out what your pastor is about, let alone how America works with other world leaders.

The superdelegates have a job to do, and that's to vote for Hillary.

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Enrique, Chicago — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:17:37 GMT

Hillary can NOT win. Not only did she go into this race as one of the most polarizing figures in American politics, but she's managed to divide her own Democratic party. Hillary Clinton is a fraud who is doing irreperable damage to the Democrats.

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KW,Philadelphia,PA — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:17:49 GMT

THIS is an absolute joke...apparently the polls doesn't matter...because almost everything i read that is not bias towards clinton..is how most Americans can stand her and are beginning to dislike her more and more....and the fact that people are defecting from her campaign and eslewhere means alot....You media report everything Hillary's campaign say ..as if they really have a handle on what's going on...and apparently the don't so...why do you print this garbage?

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ron Indiana — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:18:36 GMT

I doubt Hillary will be so electable as superdelegates and Hoosiers learn about the Magnequench lie, the foreign policy blunder of obliterating countries in the entire Middle East, and the Paul V Clinton fraud trial.

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tee, oakland, ca — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:19:02 GMT

Hillary must think that the superdelegate crowd is as stupid as those who bought into her 100 million dollar blue-collar image with the testicular fortitude to fight and oppose (at least secretly) everything that she previously voted for or supported.

Methinks they are a wee bit brighter than that.

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Richard Durbin, Illinois — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:19:05 GMT

Obama is unelectable. What a mistake Democrats have made to get into this situation. It's going to be a hard road to get out of this mess, but Democrats will be better off for it when it is done.

No Barack!!

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Chuck — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:19:18 GMT

I was actually quite impressed by Barack's numbers in Florida in the Quinnipiac survey. Considering he never campaigned there, I'll take a tie in Florida anyday!

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ya know — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:20:05 GMT

L cruiz...

do you do everything your pastor tells you to do? Or do you agree with everything your spouse says?

how dare you stay with that church or your spouse!!

hypocrite!

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Carol, CA — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:20:26 GMT

It has only begun to shift...just wait another week or so and the real shift to Senator Clinton is going to happen!!

This is what it's all about at this point, it will do the Democratic Party absolutely no good to nominate someone like Senator Obama...he's a rookie senator whose views of America are skewed toward the left wing liberal side...not a populace candidate...that's why he's unelectable!!

Name one left wing liberal president? I'm sure you can name democratic left wing liberal candidates that went down in defeat!

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Mel — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:20:31 GMT

I'm going to sustain permanent eye roll damage here - Is it ANY wonder she is performing better - she's gotten little if ANY bad press since her Bosnia lie - and the press has been going 24/7 on Obama's pastor.

Believe me - Just because Obama is too decent to bring up her past scandals - that does NOT mean that the Republicans won't ...and WHEN the Republicans roll out ALL of the Clinton scandals and they start to get 24/7 coverage - Her numbers will go down and her negatives will skyrocket (if they can even get any higher) ...And this whole thing about Hillary's being vetted - Think Again - she has NOT been vetted for the past 8 years...and, again, the Republicans will do this.

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pat huntington ny — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:21:07 GMT

This was posted in response to another article...it is more appropriate here. So I repeat....

Ok, you want Substance from Pat Huntington NY as to why Obama can't win in November, here you go:

Obama Campaign: Ohio and Florida Don't Matter
by Todd Beeton, Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:45:41 PM EST

Last week, Chris Cilizza posted excerpts from an Obama electability memo (h/t notlarrysabato in Breaking Blue) sent around to superdelegates. The memo touts Obama's ability to expand the map as evidence that he's a stronger nominee in November than Hillary Clinton.

"His ability to expand the Democratic base, and his ability to capture the crucial Independent vote, make him a stronger general election candidate than Senator Clinton, who would enter the fall campaign with the highest unfavorable ratings of any nominee in half a century," reads the memo. OUCH!

The memo goes on to detail polling from across the country that makes their case -- breaking down the map into "big states," "traditional battlegrounds" and "making new states competitive."

Here's how the memo breaks down the states within those categories:

Big States: California, New York, New Jersey and Illinois.

Traditional Battlegrounds: Iowa, North Carolina, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Minnesota and Pennsylvania.

New States: Colorado, North Dakota, Virginia, Montana and Texas.

Putting aside for a moment the absurdity of placing North Carolina on par with such blue states as Oregon, Michigan and Pennsylvania in the "traditional battleground" category, notice a couple states missing from the analysis altogether?

Two states that are not mentioned in the Obama memo are Florida, the key battleground in the 2000 presidential race, and Ohio, the Florida of the 2004 contest.

Any Democrat making a case for his electability had sure better address the scenes of the crime from 4 and 8 years ago but here instead, it's as if Obama is saying, well...that Florida and Ohio just don't matter.

It's a tough case to make to Democrats, it seems to me, that Florida and Ohio are irrelevant in the scheme of the presidential race, but it's no wonder why he'd ignore the states. According to the latest Quinnipiac University polls, taken April 23-29, not only does Hillary Clinton crush John McCain in these two states, but Obama comes up just short within the margin of error against the Republican.

Florida
Clinton (D) 49%, McCain (R) 41%
McCain (R) 44%, Obama (D) 43%

Sample: 1,411 Florida voters. Margin of error: ±2.6%.

Ohio
Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 38%
McCain (R) 43%, Obama (D) 42%

Sample: 1,127 Ohio voters. Margin of error: ±2.9%.

As the Quinnipiac analysis puts it plainly:

"If the super delegates are looking at electability, these results could be a shot in the arm for Sen. Clinton. No one has won the White House since 1960 without carrying two of these three swing states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. And she clearly is running much better against Sen. McCain than is Sen. Obama, at least for now," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Now, I've said before that, while it makes it more difficult, either Democrat can win without Florida or Ohio. You add New Mexico and Iowa to the states John Kerry won and the Democrat would need only 6 more EVs to reach the magic number of 270. Clinton could deliver that in Arkansas (6 EVs) and Obama in Colorado perhaps (9 EVs.) But when you're living in world in which the nomination is essentially in the hands of superdelegates who are likely to be swayed by traditional electability arguments, I suspect Florida and Ohio matter indeed.

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Bob, Chicago — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:21:22 GMT

Liars figure and figures lie. Time for Goldielocks to go nite nite.

Bob, Chicago

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Independent in TN — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:21:25 GMT

You have a typo in that headline . . . it should read:

"Clinton camp plays DESPERATION card"

Give it up, Hil . . . the fat lady is warming up!!!

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Alex D — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:23:23 GMT

For L. Cruiz.
Maybe Obama electable maybe not. BUT HE WILL BE NOMINEE, that's done deal, no matter what you, Hillary people are thinking. Too late for Hillary to hope for a victory.
By the way you so sure that Obama is not electable...
You wanna bet your house on that? I am ready for this bet.

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Boop me Snow Camp, NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:23:36 GMT

Where are all the people that elected W for 2 terms because of his family values after the BIG Clinton embarrassment? Is part of you the ones backing Hillary because of her and Bill's "family values"? Here you have an almost perfect family, with two adorable little girls. The only dirt that can be drug up on Obama is his EX pastor and that is by association, he never slept with his Pastor. When you are in the voting booth, why don't you close your eyes and think about his ideas and his wanting to unite the country and his platform of change. Think about his intelligent speaking loving wife and those two babies....................and pretend they are WHITE!

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donna — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:23:45 GMT

Hillary,

Never kid a kidder!

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Just Me — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:16 GMT

Google "Gary Hart / Walter Mondale" to see what happens when super delegates over turn the will of the people. Keep in mind the younger generation hasn't been in politics long enough to have loyalty to one party or another. If they feel the nomination was stolen from them, you'll see a wave of revenge voting. I don't think Nancy is willing to give up her 51-49 majority of the Senate due to party elites.

Super delegates need to grab some pop-corn, turn on the history channel, and think about this one long and hard.

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J. Wright, Chicago — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:22 GMT

Obama is unelectable. Obama's chickens, are coming home to roost.

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ObserverinVancouver — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:43 GMT

The Clinton campaign is studiously avoiding discussion of the blowback from the SDs flouting the primary results and substituting their judgment for the judgment of the voters in 50 states and various territories. Sen. Clinton will have no coat tails and may even have a negative impact on down ticket races. No matter how ardently Sen. Obama supports Sen. Clinton in the general election, many of the new people who registered to vote will, at best, stay home. If Sen. Clinton does not yet know the meanin of the word "bitter", the African American community is sure to enlighten her.

The SDs did not become SDs by indulging in fantasies. This is a hopeless cause for Sen. Clinton and if she is not careful she will become a laughingstock or a punch line. I can still remember the hilarity each election cycle (after the second or third) when Harold Stassen announced he was running the Republican nomination.

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A Charles, LA, CA — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:25:11 GMT

These are the same polls that didn't count a week ago, right Hillary?

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Yo Mama Clinton is voting for Obama!!, Illinois — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:25:25 GMT

I have been reading most of the comments on your post Chuck Todd and it seems that many are asking why MSNBC, NBC and the rest of MSM isn't reporting about Peter Paul's lawsuit against the Clintons filed in California. Why is the networks so afraid to talk about this?

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sean, atl, ga — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:25:36 GMT

polls, just like states...just like votes...are only important to the Clinton campaign, if they benifit her....if they don't, then they don't exist and shouldn't count (see: caucus arguement, or disregard of delegate count in total, etc....i could REALLY go on)...

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TANGI — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:25:58 GMT

POLLS DON'T ME ANYTHING...I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO ARE THEY POLLING??? CLINYTON'S SUPPORTERS, MCCAIN'S AND THE REPULICIANS OPERATION CHAOS!!!

SHE IS STILL BEHIND IN THE DELEGATE COUNT AND WILL RUN OUT OF SUPERDELEGATES VERY VERY SOON!

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bobbi eau claire, wi — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:27:10 GMT

You Obama-trons are starting to sound "bitter." "Typical White Folks" in my neighborhood are having a bible study followed by a gun show tonight. I hear that's the cure for bitterness. Good luck with that! Go Hillary!

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COL.[retd]a.M.khajawall — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:27:11 GMT

Clinton has only one positive that name recognition. She knows this time is the only chance. If she does get now later she has no chance. In this process she will permanantly damge democraty party and her future chances. In the process Our Greatgrand Nation and its people will suffer within and outside.

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donna — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:27:12 GMT

I was looking for my lost reading glasses when the 'four supers for Hillary' came up.

My take:

With the one she lost to Barack, and the two others he picked up today, she's no closer today than she was yesterday.

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Warren, Omaha — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:27:36 GMT

Can we stop sending my tax dollars to obama supporters? they seem to have plenty of money to waste on politics so why so they need another trillion in giveaways like he is proposing

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Dan, Madison, WI — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:27:58 GMT

The media should do their job and report on Hillary's blatant lie about Magnequench.

Valparaiso Indiana has been trying to get the media to tell the story of Hillary's intentional lie.

The media knows she talked to the former vice president of Magnequench and that she intentionally changed the details.

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Barack Obama 2008 — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:28:15 GMT

As far as problems we will need to resolve in the future internationally - I think the entire world is waiting for the United States of America to elect Barack Obama as our next President.

The world is not waiting for John McCain. They are not waiting for Hillary Clinton.

And for those who say who cares - well, you better care.

We have a lot of fences to mend.

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Inez, Seattle — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:29:12 GMT

Okay ... let's talk electability ... let's talk leadership.

Can you even imagine electing a talented, intelligent, classy President who is a good husband and a loving father. No? Okay, then let's judge him on someone else's words.

Can you even imagine having a President who has committed himself to work for the poor and the people struggling to get by. No? Then let's judge him on his sometimes hesitant speech.

Can you even imagine having a President who turned from the opportunity to have a lucrative career to embrace a far less financially rewarding commitment within a poor community. No? Then let's judge him by the darts thrown by his opposition.

Rather let's have a President who is devious. Because, after all, isn't that what a "good politician" does. Let's applaud the ability to maneuver and construct negatives. Let's close our eyes to the possibilities and favor "what we know", even if that leads us to more of the same.

Are we that afraid??

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Ohio — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:29:12 GMT

I think these numbers make the case for Obama. If I were the Clinton campaign I would hide these. He's tied in 2 and winning in one. We all know he wins in many other states against McCain.

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mkd — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:29:22 GMT

L.Cruiz
***************

I would like to know the logic behind not supporting Obama b/c of what his pastor said. Seriously.

Let's be honest, despite all the purposefully obtuse "analysis" we get from the media:

He probably stayed in an influential church in the community he represented.

A church that helps the less fortunate in the district he represented.

A church that has a membership of 8,000 +

His staying in that church probably had a lot to do with the fact that it helped him to keep his finger on the pulse of the community he represented - and it helped him to stay in touch with his constituents.

THAT IS A GOOD THING. THAT IS SOMETHING A GOOD LEADER DOES.

And it is actually a logical and reasonable conclusion - Obama has NEVER done ANYTHING in his political life to demonstrate that he agrees with his former pastor's offensive statements.

So - HOW does this reflect on his ability to lead the country?

Please - enlighten me.

Because to me - this is just an excuse used by people who would NOT support him anyway...but simply do not have the intellect to articulate a logical reason for their position.

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:29:48 GMT

I just have to say that if I was NOT totally convinced before - I certainly am now... MSM & especially MSNBC do CONTROL this election - with all the major gaffes Shrillary has committed the past couple of days - there is not a PEEP out of MSNBC!!

How about reporting on the Magnequench deal (at least ABC had the balls to!) How about the push polling that's going on?? How about the deceptive phone calls being made by the woman's group??

Nope... nothing... nada... zilch out of MSNBC!!!

Instead we get 'Goldilocks' GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!

People are not as stupid as you believe and I for one am an bitter white woman who will now be turning off MSNBC (sorry Keith & Rachel you are the only voice of reason at this circus) on this bias media outlet! WE get the point as to who you want as the democratic candidate... a woman who will lie cheat & steal her way to the whitehouse... GOD help us all!

Obama 08 - YES WE CAN!!

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Lexus Porche, Pontiac MI — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:29:51 GMT

You Obama idiots still don't have a clue. Superdelegates can change their mind at any time. Who ever they say they are for today, they can change tomorrow. The only time their vote matters is at the convention. So any totals you see now, can change tomorrow.

Have a nice summer.

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:30:00 GMT

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Brett MCDonald, Sarasota FL — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:31:06 GMT

First order of business in Denver: Tear-gas the Michigan and Florida delegates. They broke the rules you know.

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voter — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:31:47 GMT

Wow, quite the argument. Now we are basing the general election on polls in which the democrates have not yet campaigned aganist McCain. These polls are hypothetical. If the last election taught is anythings, it is that polls are inaccurate. There are recent polls from NBC which shows Obama beating McCain. The same poll indicated that 4 in 10 Obama supporters will not vote for her. Couple with the 29% of new voters in PA who said in the primary they would not vote for her. She is not electable. Her record proves she does not stand for the working class, but panders to them. She has not created jobs in NY as she promised, supported NAFTA and her campaing stratigiest lobbied for CAFTA which her husband received money from. For the bloggers who will not vote for Obama because of his pastor, then don't voter for Hillary based on her backroom deals with NAFTA and her husband and stratigiest lobbying for CAFTA which she is aganist. She says one thing and her record and actions show something different. This is what people want in a president? Get real and wake up before it is too late.

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Lisa, New Britain, CT Women for Obama! — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:32:05 GMT

Polls are a snapshot in time...if we knew electability based on a poll at any given point, well, we could make a lot of money in Vegas!!

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Don't kid yourselves. Obama would lose. It's just that simple. — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:32:38 GMT

L. Cruiz....I couldn't have said it better myself, and I couldnt afree with you more!
Obama "associations," "liasons," "friendships," or acquaintances, whever the hell you want to call them, are going to cost our party the election this November if he is the nominee.
Obama's supporters flood these boards with messages on an hourly basis. (sometimes the same poster makes multiple postings in one thread under different names to make it look like more people support him than actually do) One might think that a good number of them don't have jobs because who' boss is going to let them sit at their desk and do that all day, hmmm?
Then of course there are the posts that come DIRECTLY from Obama's surrogates, people who get paid to do nothing but blog favorably about Obama all day.
I'll vote for Hillary. I'll vote a straight Democratic ticket if she gets the nomination.
But, I'll do just the opposite if Obama gets it. I'll vote for McCain, and I'll vote against every Democrat on the ballot, just to show my disatisfaction with the nominating process, the way Hillary was treated by the media AND THE DNC, and to show my utter DISGUST that a sleeze-bag like Obama could ever get nominated by The Democratc Party.
You LOCAL super delegates at the municipal and state levels need to be paying attention to that. Don't let Barack Obama do you out of your jobs.

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Dirk, Brunswick, Georgia — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:32:51 GMT

Michelle Obama should stop whining. Michelle WHHIIIIINNNESS!!

Barack needs to disown Michelle.

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GetReal,Charlotte,NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:33:13 GMT

Pat of Huntington

Whar moron bases an opinion on anything that comes from Quinnipiac University. My dog could get a degreee from there. The school is a joke.

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Julius, Terre Haute — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:33:24 GMT

Just because Obama want tear down his opponent of his own party doesn't mean he's not fit to be POTUS. I love the fact he is staying above the fray...I'm pretty such HRC is loving it as well. If Obama was any other candidate HRC would be out of the race because they would exploit her negatives. Wow...people want so much but they can't commend a politican for not tearing a fellow politicans in their own party.

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Cindi in Louisiana — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:34:21 GMT

His poll numbers are up because she probably paid for the re-emergence of Reverend Wright. The issue didn't hurt Obama the first time around, so she really needed him to appear for an encore performance. and Voila!! Her friend organized the press club event and invited Wright to speak at it. This woman will do ANYTHING to win!!! I seriously believe that she would eat a plate of dog poop if it would guarantee her the presidency.

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SickOfHillBillysLyingWays — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:34:44 GMT

Ok let me say this. Hillary has become the best used car salesman remember she's got nuts. No I am not talking about you followers of hers. Well maybe I am,she has potrayed herself as many famous Americans real or fictinal,she is now seen as dishonest, because she will pander ,lie ,cheat and steal to try to get this nomination. It is very apparent that she will say and do anything to try to steal this nomination. I bet that if somebody told her she could get more vote in NC by wearing bib overalls and a trucker cap she would do it.Poor Bill was one of my favorite politicians of all time.Until recently he is shameless too. Bill how could you let campaigning for your wife flush your legacy down the drain !! Hillary have you not any shame ????? These cheap theater tricks ,slight of hand to make votes appear and tiresome. Do some research on this character it fits Hillary to a " t" . Cal Worthington of Worthington Ford.

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:35:22 GMT

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Tess, Portland, Me — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:35:31 GMT

Apparently the SD are telling the Clintons what they are going to do, they are just not listening. Watching Obama handle himself over the last couple of days makes me proud to be a supporter. We finally have a chance to restore decency and dignigty to the office of the POTUS.

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Tucson, AZ — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:35:52 GMT

Boop Me Snow,

RIGHT ON! Brilliant!

OBAMA 08!

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BL, Cincinnati OH — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:36:01 GMT

Florida: Clinton tops McCain 49 - 41 percent; McCain gets 44 percent to Obama's 43 percent;
Ohio: Clinton beats McCain 48 - 38 percent; McCain gets 43 percent to Obama's 42 percent;
Pennsylvania: Clinton tops McCain 51 - 37 percent; Obama leads McCain 47 - 38 percent.

Lets be real on these polls. Even if accurate this far out, it shows Obama still easily winning Pennsyvlannia. It also shows him tied with McCain in Florida, a state that Obama did NOT campaign in at all, but one that McCain not only campaigned in, but won with the help of Gov. Crist. So for Obama to be tied without even campaigning there yet is hardly bad news.

The map isn't the same anymore, and even if you believe in the stupid argument that Hillary is making that you can't win states you lost in the primaries or historically red states, then SHE can't win by her own argument.

The fact is blue states will go blue for either Dem. The difference is Obama puts a few states in play that Clinton can not, such as Virginia, Indiana, Colorado, etc.

California - 55
Colorado - 9
Connecticut - 7
D.C. - 3
Delaware - 3
Hawaii - 4
Illinois - 21
Indiana - 11
Iowa - 7
Maine - 4
Maryland - 10
Massachusetts - 12
Michigan - 17
Minnesota - 10
New Hampshire - 3
New Jersey - 15
New Mexico - 5
New York - 31
Oregon - 7
Pennsylvania - 21
Rhode Island - 4
Vermont - 4
Virginia - 13
Washington - 11
Wisconsin - 10

That's 297-241 for Obama not including Florida or Ohio. He can lose Pennsyvlania as well and still win. So the argument that you must win two of Penn, Florida, and Ohio is wrong. You can lose all 3 and still win. Win one of those and you can drop Virginia, Colorado, or Indiana and still win.

Clinton camp plays electability card

Ismael, Weslaco TX — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:36:46 GMT

HRC is not in the White House and she already has a foreign policy blunder. She wanted to appear tough, but now she appears to have egg in her face. That's what happens when you talk or act without considering all the consequences. Bad judgement! In return, Iran is probably going to increase its support of terrorists in Iraq.

MSNBC, report what the others are reporting not just Wright.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/clinton.iran/index.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/30/iran-condemns-clinton-for-threatening-to-attack/

Paul v. Clinton, MSNBC where is it?

HRC’s ties to black revolutionaries while at Yale, MSNBC where is it?

HCR criticizes Indiana plant closings which Bill approved while in office, MSNBC where is it?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1

Clinton camp plays electability card

Walt, Ohio — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:37:51 GMT

To all McCain supporters, Republicans, and Independents:
I'm sure you have been keeping up with the current Democratic primary. And I am equally sure you have read the fervent support from the backers of Hillary Clinton. They insist that the only way that McCain can win is if Obama is the nominee. In fact most are saying that they will vote for you if Obama wins the nomination.
Well McCain supporters, I have been "swayed" by their arguments about the upcoming election. In fact, here's your chance to "guarantee" your candidate the November election. Just vote for Obama in the upcoming Indiana and North Carolina primary (Indiana is an open primary). I "know" you don't want to face Hillary Clinton in the general election; and her supporters will support you in the fall.
So an obvious strategy would be to come out if force for Obama in the remaining two primaries. That way, you won't have to face the "formidable Clinton machine" in November; you can handle Obama, right? All the Hillary supporters' opinions on this blog says so.
If I were a McCain supporter, I would vote for Obama in every primary in order not to have my candidate to face Clinton. She would be scary in the general election. Kind of an "Operation Chaos" in reverse; but a strategy to insure McCain's election in the fall.
After all, Hillary and her supporters said so, so it "must" be true

Clinton camp plays electability card

LJ — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:37:53 GMT

Electability? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! How electable will HRC be once she is fully vetted and it comes out that she's been having lesbian affairs for god knows how long! Read Gennifer Flowers book and listen to Bill Clinton(pg.47)describe Hillary's love related appetite. This news will blow Rev. Wright right out of the water and won't be good for the votes HRC is desperately seeking.

Clinton camp plays electability card

Jeanie in Oregon — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:38:22 GMT

Huckabee Hil should be ashamed of herself and the way this campaign has been run, very republican if you ask me?

She is totally attacking her dem. opponent at every chance she gets,

The Clintons are out there telling lies every day,

I am tired of people saying Obama doesn't talk about issues, go to just one of his rallys or town halls, this man has wonderful ideas that inspire us and make us proud of our country, and when he leaves our state to head to another one, we are already changed, more people are volunteering and offering to help someone who needs a hand, they feel empowered with this mans words……

I am voting on May 20th here in Oregon, and I can't wait to vote for the best person who is ready to get rid of old Washington politics of pandering to get your approval, and then screw you over after they get your vote…….Hey PA have you heard from Hil since your big Tuesday????

I am Voting for Obama

Turn the page
Bring our troops home, make real change in washington!!!!

Vote for Obama

My name Jeanie and I approve this message……..

Clinton camp plays electability card

Mike Gbemi, houston, texas — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:38:40 GMT

Polls? Any super delegate that votes based on short term movement in polls is not worth that office or privilege. It sure shows that they are not being swayed..at least not from the numbers Obama is winning and the ones defecting from HRC. Where is the beef?

Clinton camp plays electability card

Pete - Albany, NY — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:38:50 GMT

This argument may fall on a lot of deaf ears.

While it's may be nice to debate the electability card keep in mind how many of the superdelegates must also be concerned with their own electability.

...as in, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate.

It would be nice to see the Senators and Representatives who face serious challenges for their seats to see where they are throwing their support as the top of the ticket may have an effect on the other races.

Keep in mind that the hardcore right of the GOP isn't particularly thrilled with Senator McCain as the nominee. The risk for the GOP with him as the nominee is that this block of voters may sit on their hands come November 4.

The problem may be that this same block of voters hates the Clintons. They may not like McCain but they hate the Clintons more and it might be enough to get them to vote just to keep them out of the White House.

Under that scenario, what happens down the ticket...does a high anti-Clinton voter turnout jeopardize swing seats in Congress?

Clinton camp plays electability card

Todd, realist in NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:38:50 GMT

I want to know what great accomplishments were HILLARY CLINTONS' and not something she took credit for that her husband did. BILL CLINTON was already the president.. not HILLARY.. so if we throw out those 8 years she was the first lady, what has she done as a politician.. I wish one of you dumb ass hillary supporters can step up and answer this question since Hillary has soooo much more experience that Mr. Obama...

Clinton camp plays electability card

Bill Clinton — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:39:10 GMT

40% of voters in Michigan voted against her, despite her being the only name on the ballot.

6% of those who voted for her in PA claimed that they wouldn't vote for her in the general.

Her campaign is heavily in debt.

The media is invested in the continuation of the race.

Sonner or later the house of cards will come crashing down.

Clinton camp plays electability card

coninPA — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:39:34 GMT

Well Chuck Todd IS the numbers man.
And Chuck said unless she wins every remaining state by 70% to Obama 30% she can NOT win. She can win every state primary by 10% like she did in PA, it won't give her enough to catch up. She can NOT win the popular vote without 70%.

Chuck Todd has said it, time and time again,as well as other number guys, she can NOT win without a 70% vote count in every remaining state primary.
I guess that means...if she doesn't get 70% of the vote in every state, she can't win the popular vote!

The supers are not going to take the popular vote away from the people. To hand it to her. Unless they want record numbers of Democrats leaving the party and going "Independent"!

Unless of course you count India and Columbia's votes.
Ickes skips over the moon.
And Goldilocks dances with little red riding hood!

Clinton camp plays electability card

Jo who never gets pubished in High Point, NC — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:39:36 GMT

I must say from a Network which employees Pat Buchanan I"m not at all surprised that a person who admitted to frequenting KKK meetings gets her words printed time and again so she can spew her reason why Obama is a racist but I think I've been published maybe two times? On to the topic now...

So again Camp Hil"LIAR"y is changing the goal posts? Now they look at polls when it is favourable for them but when it wasn't it was "polls don't matter"? The Hil"LIAR"y camap ought to put stickers on neckbraces for all the whiplash supporters will get. Or are they betting on their supporters are too dumb to listen to anything she says? I'm sure May polls will hold true in November. I'm sure she saw herself losing all the states she's lost so far in Polls from last december. This is rubbish. I'm so over all these "unbiased" news stories.

Clinton camp plays electability card

Jim, FL — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:40:02 GMT

The rules say a candidate has to get 2025 votes to get the Dem nomination. So both Obama and Clinton have to work this out with the Superdelegates. I can't imagine all the 800+ superdelegates are somehow more smarter than an avg voter. They all vote based on what suits them the most...I'm sure they all have political ambitions and personal agendas. If Obama can get them, great, if Clinton can get them, great.
THe rules don't say the Superdelegates have to choose the person with the most delegates, so it's a fight to the finish.

The Media likes Obama to win, so they keep bringing up "how can the Superdelegates overturn people's mandate". Well, check the rulebook, it DOES NOT say superdelegates have to vote that way. But then, I'm sure the folks in the Media already know that!

Everyone should take a step back and let this play out, and the best person will emerge at the end.

Clinton camp plays electability card

CP — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:40:07 GMT

Truth is, NO ONE KNOWS FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY which Dem will be McCain, so that's a piss pour agrument for Clinton to be making. However, it's absolutely in the best interest of our Country that WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER BUSH TERM. If the vast majority of people feel they want to end the war in Iraq.. if the vast majority of women do not want to see Roe v. Wade overturned... if the vast majority of people want our economy to stop this spiral downward...then come time for the GE, then the vast majority of people will get off their butts and go VOTE AGAINST ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF BUSH.

Clinton camp plays electability card

Joel — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:41:22 GMT

How exactly does Clinton intend to win the election after the AA community abandons her for stealing the nomination from the guy who got the most pledged delegates?

Clinton camp plays electability card

CP — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:41:33 GMT

Clinton camp plays electability card

Mike Gbemi, houston, texas — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:41:53 GMT

Oh yeah..she is so electable she cannot even win a newbie clean and sweet within the democratic party where she is supposedly loved. If we are talking electability, lets give it to some John Edwards - at least the stereotype candidate: no race or gender baggage. That helps too right? Electability my feet!