Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

Lisa, proud Obama supporter in New Britain, CT — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:01:09 GMT

I think your counter on Clinton for Junior Super Tuesday is wrong (the way I read it, she should have fewer than or equal to since 14 since Junior Super Tuesday since it is more recent).

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

Taylor Denver — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:02:13 GMT

Congratulations Senator Obama and thank you Brian Colon! Positively Presidential.

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

tonybama, grahamsville, ny — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:02:47 GMT

The super delegates have to realize just what a farce Hillary is. In order to get votes, she now is playing to the right wing. The right wing is going for it now because it causes havoc in the Democratic Party. If she were the nominee, does anyone really think Fox News and Richard Skythe (or whatever his name is) would be backing her. Hopefully, the true Democrats in Indiana and North Carolina will wake up in time.

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

BO Knows Guam — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:03:57 GMT

A win is a win. Too bad the Clinton people tried to spoil the vote and throw out over 500 ballots. But you know what they say in the Clinton camp: "if you're not cheatin' you're not tryin'". Unless of course they're chanting the main mantra: "if you're not lyin' you're not tryin'".

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

Terry, IN — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:07:16 GMT

Why did Clinton bother to compete in Guam? I thought caucuses don't count, and that they aren't democratic.

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Benjamin — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:12:00 GMT

Why no mention of the two Guam SDs that were elected ? One is committed to Obama and the other one promised to go with the caucus winner.

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

Brian — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:13:24 GMT

Does your count include Guam's Jaime Paulino?

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Hemi Fied — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:13:43 GMT

Way to go Big Brown!!

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

The Filly is Dead, Long Live Big Brown — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:13:47 GMT

Hillspin:

Its not even a state.
7 votes is a statistical/virtual tie.
Guam is not a big state.
There are no electoral votes in Guam.
Caucuses are undemocratic.
We each get the same amount of delegates anyway.
Obama agreed to fight fair and let me cheat.
Big Brown tripped the filly at the derby.
Magna who? Oh that was GW's fault. No thanks I'm not thirsty.
I gotta go... McCain needs me to change his depends... I mean dependency... ummm independency... ahhhmmm cut the gas tax so we can bring home the troops from Iraq.

Delegate update: Clinton-Obama, 2-2

Mitchell Aboulafia — Sun, 04 May 2008 20:59:39 GMT

There may be good reasons for Democratic superdelegates to hold off on making a decision between Senators Clinton and Obama, but the national popular vote is not one of them. Over fifty years ago Jean-Paul Sartre warned us about something he called "bad faith." We are in "bad faith" when we are free to make a decision but convince ourselves that there is something preventing us from making this decision. For example, those who seek advice can be in bad faith. They say that they cannot decide until they get some good advice, knowing in advance what the advice will be.

How does this relate to the so-called popular vote and the election? Well, if we can believe a lot of pollsters and journalists, the superdelegates really want to know what the national popular vote is going to be before they can make up their minds. Until they know, they cannot choose between Clinton and Obama. But for anyone who has seen some of the (often well intentioned) attempts to calculate the national popular vote, it should be obvious that no such total will be available.

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