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Sounding less like a campaign?

Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:04 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Ron Allen
Did we get off the bus at the wrong stop? Did something happen we didn't hear about as we flew a couple of hours from D.C. to South Dakota?

We're on the campaign trail with Sen. Clinton, but you really have to listen very closely here at the Jones family farm in Aberdeen to hear any hint she's fighting for the Democratic nomination.
 
Maybe we're getting a bit ahead of things, maybe its just the place and time, maybe its that we're all looking for clues about her intentions, but the vibe feels different.
 
Clinton began her remarks talking about how great it is that South Dakota is going to vote, and how important those votes will be. But what followed was a detailed talk about farming and rural issues, not why she's still in the race, nor much of her usual stump speech.

No mention of the delegate math, recent endorsements in the news, nor how much "we need a fighter" in the White House.      

Clinton talked a lot about why she supports the Farm Bill that just passed the Congress and that President Bush has threatened to veto.

That's the "news" or theme for the day her press people highlighted. We've heard about the need to strengthen the safety net for small farmers, the need for disaster relief programs, mandatory country of origin labeling, and the "Farm to Fork" program Clinton started in New York. And by the way, there are 34,000 family farms in New York, just like some of the farms here, Clinton explained, anticipating that most people in rural communities think of skyscrapers in New York, not apple orchards and dairy pastures.

So far, just one mention of Barack Obama. It was the standard reminder that Clinton and Obama have "differences" over issues like health care, and whether everyone will have coverage.

Clinton also criticized John McCain and President Bush because of their opposition to the farm bill, the only mention of McCain other than something like the usual lines about how he's a friend, a good man, but with the wrong ideas.
 
Mostly, it's a beautiful sunny afternoon here on the farm, perfect day for a nice chat with some voters. There's a relatively small crowd of perhaps a couple hundred people. No one is waving "Hillary" signs and cheering Clinton on, but clearly they're here to support her. And based on the surroundings many in the crowd probably had to drive quite a ways to get here. The energy level is low -- comfortably so. And we sure have learned a bit about issues affecting farmers, rural communities and Clinton's very detailed plans to address those concerns.
 
Every campaign stop isn't a big rally. And as I said, we're all looking for hints that may, in fact, just turn into illusions. Yesterday, the campaign made it clear she will compete in all the remaining primaries, and fight to seat the delegations from Florida and Michigan -- and fight for the nomination.
  
A man in the crowd just asked Clinton a question, and offered to be her vice president. She asked for his resume. Everyone was quite amused. Not exactly the question many of us have for Clinton about the Democratic Party's VP slot, but that was perhaps one of the most "campaign-like" sounding moments we've heard on the trail so far in South Dakota.

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Good night, Irene ... it's over!
OBAMA '08
Maybe she's getting the message.  The Fat Lady has sang.
Sounds like reality is starting to set in.
We can only hope.
I am a MODERATE, but I just can't take the idea of the MOST LIBERAL Senator becoming president. Obama sounds too much like a Carter Presidency, and I am old enough to remember that hell. Bye bye Democratic Party. My family will now register Independent and vote with our heads in November. Hopefully a good Moderate Experienced Candidate will surface soon.  

Hillary Clinton would have made one hell of a great President. Too bad the media made the Clintons out to be racists so she lost the African American support. Too bad the media is SEXIST. Too bad the DNC could not even support this family that has given their entire lives to public service and to the Democratic Party, too bad the Dems Primary system is flawed and gives caucus states so much control where only 2-3% of the population gets their votes counted, and too bad Democratic voters could not have supported this family that has given us the ONLY SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES ... changing huge deficit to surplus and adding 22 million new jobs. It's really too bad, she's such a bright, intelligent, hard-working person.

Good luck in the fall DNC, you will need it BIG TIME!

Where else but in America can the DEMOCRATIC candidate who has WON CA, NY, TX, OH, PA, NH, and YES FL and not be our Democratic nominee??
She has been talking a lot more substance and a lot less rhetoric lately. I suspect she's playing out the primary season.
You do realize that every time you say something like "sounding less like a campaign" suddenly she's going all the way to the convention.  I'll give Sen. Clinton credit...it's just not in her makeup to give up something that she believes is hers.  But how can she fight the reality that she lost this race in February...that she made tactical mistakes which gave Obama the necessary lead.  Maybe they were receiving assurances that this is her year and she was taken by surprise.  But doesn't that dim some of the Clinton mystique.  It's hard to imagine anyone taking them by surprise.  I guess we'll be debating this same principle over and over when she takes this all the way to the convention.
We will not soon forget that Obama has made derogatory statements about "white folks" in his books. We will not soon forget that his mentor and pastor for the last 20 years has hated "whitey" with a passion. We will not soon forget the racism that is winning him the nomination with the 90% black vote he is getting. We will not soon forget the hateful statements his wife has made. We will not soon forget the knife he stuck in the back of Hillary Clinton by blindsiding her after saying he would not seek the nomination. We will not soon forget his contempt for the white race whom “clings to guns and religion”, and his documented resentments in his books. We will not soon forget he does not cover his heart to the "Star Spangled Banner”. We will not soon forget his ties to the terrorist who attacked the Pentagon. We will not soon forget his friendship with Farrakhan. We will not soon forget all of the "present" votes on anything of "substance". We will not soon forget that Osama Bin Laden said he would destroy America from the inside. There are so many things we will not soon forget, that I don't have time to list them all. We will not give him the White House without a fight. We will stop Obamamentum. West Virginia was not just a fluke. We did not start the name-calling and racist banter he, the media, and his supporters did. His reverend did. His friends did. Only the peace loving, self-delusional people who still feel obligated to apologize, generation after generation for the actions of their forefathers will stand behind him. I'm not racist. I would never condone judging someone by the color of his or her skin. I judge people based on their actions and words. I don't apologize for the actions of my forefathers, I had nothing to do with it. If I could change the past I would, but I can’t. All I can do is treat everyone I meet with respect. Not because of their color, but because of they are a person, a soul just like me. Not until we can see past the color of skin and stop the hateful remarks can we unite. I will not unite behind the very people who are stereotyping me as a white American. I will not unite behind someone who obviously hates me, or at least judges me because of the color of my skin. I will not unite behind someone who is being hypocritical. I will not stand behind a farce of a campaign which gets away with racism and has the audacity of hope to call others racist and play the race card daily. I will not unite behind people who are a part of the problem and not a part of the solution. This is not an election for one race or the other to win. This race is about what is best for everyone in this country. If you want to unify this country quit criticizing it. What makes this country great is it's right to believe and say what we feel. Everyone doesn't have to think the same way. If someone wants to hate, it is his or her prerogative. If you take it too far then you will pay the price. If you choose to over look color you are on the right track. There a lot of  people I don't like because of what comes out of their mouths. Voting for a man is not going to heal the rift, if his statements and his campaign are divisive it is not going to stop racism. Sorry to say, but both sides have to mend this rift. It's not a problem; it's called freedom of speech. We are trying to dispel what makes this country great; it's called free will. I don't like or agree with a lot of things I hear. I choose not to judge others based on color. Vote for Obama if you want to, but quit labeling everyone who doesn't “racist”. That is playing the race card and widening the divide, because it makes a lot of people angry to be stereotyped. I know I am. It has nothing to with his color, I don’t support him because of what he and his friends and his mentors have been saying for years. The hateful sentiments he and his wife have said. Not one apology from Obama or his family about these statements. If they apologized now, I would see it as dishonesty. It is how they feel and they should say it. It's how they feel and I will vote the way I feel. If there is no Hillary to vote for in the general election, I will throw my support behind McCain. I will not only vote for him, but I will campaign and get the hateful messages from Obama and his past out there. It's my right. If you don't like it oh well, I guess that will make us even. Putting Obama in power will not heal the rift it will only put someone in power who has felt oppressed because of his blackness and ashamed of his whiteness. He has separated himself from a lot of voters including my wife, and myself, because he has never been able to get past the color of his own skin. True unity will come when the media quits mentioning the color of skin. The one person in this whole thing who hasn’t played the race or sex card is John McCain. When the candidates stop seeing themselves as a race or a sex, and just a human being, then that will be the real candidate for change. The mentioning of racism by the media about the exit polls only made things worse. Ignoring it will not solve the problem, but being a good example will. Stop the hate first, then start the unity. We are a generation or 2 from this. If you want change start raising children who don’t realize they are a color, but a person.
Put on an Obama T-shirt, Chelsea, and you can spend the rest of your time in PR at the beach or casino.
Don't read the tea leaves, folks.  Anyone who has been a student of the Clintons should know not to take anything they say or do at face value.  Remember "it depends on what is is" and the "vast right wing conspiracy"?
Did HRC step in any horse dung? Doesn't she smell the BS that she continues to spew out of her mouth? Hillary it is over please disengage now and lets get on to the GE!
You have to be the worst person to listen to on MSNBC and that is saying something. In November you air sucking vultures will understand that we Democrat Hillary supporters find Obambi unacceptable and well vote for John Mc we know HE loves this country.
Let's all have some compassion folks.  If you think about it, passions have run so high because we've all been so upset over the mess Bush, and his cronies, have gotten us into.  Cool heads must prevail if we're going to dig our way out.
I wish she had taken this approach all along.  
Perhaps it's finally sinking in.  Perhaps Hillary finally realizes there is a snowball's chance in hell that she'll win the nomination.

I don't write this to be rude--just to the point.

Hillary is a figher. She has fought fiercely to get everything she has ever wanted.  And until now, has always succeeded.

But unfortunately, you don't always get what you want--and regardless how hard you have worked for it.  Most of us have learned this lesson.  Perhaps it's the first time for her.
Clinton supporters here: We didn't see you whining about the so-called "bias" in the media.  It seems so long ago when Saturday Night Live did those now-famous skits depicting the media fawning over Senator Obama. If Barack got a PILLOW, Hillary got the whole California King-Size bed.  And she rested quite comfortably on that for more than two months. During that time, Obama and his so-called "pastor problem" DOMINATED First Read, blogs and the entire news cycle. You think THAT was fun? Clinton supporters were LOVING that, much like Linda Blair snickering as she crouched in the corner of her room.

Now, all of you are whining about how Hillary isn't getting a "fair" shake. The media didn't cast those 17 million-plus votes for Barack Obama. WE did.

And all of you Clinton supporters can threaten your revenge vote for McCain all you want, but know this: If you can sleep well at night voting for four more years of sending innocent young American men and women to their needless slaughter in Iraq, instead of "holding your nose" and voting for the "black guy," be our guest. It's on you.

I'm a WHITE middle class voter for Barack Obama, and I APPROVE this message.
And your point is what?  At least she is campaigning and not relying on media hype to get her the nomination.
You know, although I saw limited coverage of her media blitz yesterday, I thought she seemed somewhat flat and pensive.  

One pundit a few days ago said her campaign probably had her in a "media blackout".  Maybe she is back in the loop now.....
Just for the record, I am a Hillary Clinton Supporter - and proud of it.  I too will be voting for McCain in November.
Joe TN,

I would suggest that you need to check your facts, your racist attitudes and your medications.
If it is RACISM when black people vote for a black person, it must be RACISM when white people vote for a white person??????
Joe TN

Sorry, but you've bought into the distorted propaganda that's been used to smear Obama.  There are outside forces distorting things about both Dem candidates.  The goal has been to divide us.  Are you willing to let them succeed?  We could always let Bush/McCain finish ruining our country, or starting WW III.  
nice job, jerk off joe from tn.  blame obama for america's racism.  awesome!
It's called a comma Joe, it adds a lot of validity to rants.
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Carl Sagan

Until Senator Clinton stands behind a podium and tells us she's suspending her campaign she's still campaigning.

She will be the veep.

I hope it's enough to win Florida's pissed off voters back, otherwise...no White House.
Hillary God Bless you and Bill, please help Obama get elected and fight for him with all your might.  He needs you now more than ever I will sen you a donation if you drop out and endorse Obama.

Obama 08
To the dems that are writing these crazy letters that they would vote for Mc Same instead of Obama....

If you want the blood of four thousand more troops on your hands then go ahead turn your backs on the men and women who are just doing what they were ordered to do by The president of The United states and if Mc same is the Pres. you will be doing just that...

Swallow your pride for the good of our country and the good of our men and women serving our country,

think about their children not understanding why their father's and Mother's had to fight in a country that turned out had no WMD's,now their families are stuck there because of Bush....for the 3rd and fourth time.....

So if you want to be selfish .... then you will have to live with it, I feel so sorry for people who think like you, I don't even think Sen. Clinton thinks like you, and I think she will help big time in Congress to rally around Obama to get our troops home when he is our President.

GROW THE HELL UP!!!!!!
partly barrowed from keith O

Just my opinion though
Michael in Calif.

Too bad your candidate lost in delegates, number of states won, superdelegates, and popular vote. I THINK that's called a CHOICE and we chose NOT to have her and her legacy again. Simple as that. Isn't America great? Obama '08
Michael in Calif---If all those things truly were Hillary Clinton she would've won the nomination.  HOw is Obama the most liberal senator in the senate but he and Hillary Clinton have the exact same policy positions?? It's time for all democrats to come together. Hillary didn't lose this nomination b/c of the media she lost it b/c of arrogance.
She is expecting Barack Obama to bail her out of her 21M debt.  Why worry?  Just keep adding up the expenses.
Joe, TN,

You have major issues. Or you must be a Millionaire.


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