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What went wrong in New Hampshire?

Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:24 PM by Lauren Vicary

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
The polls in the 2008 presidential campaign were largely spot on -- with one glaring problem: the New Hampshire Democratic primary. A panel of polling specialists released a report yesterday that tried to figure out just what went wrong.
 
As Boston.com reports, it “didn't come to any definitive conclusions, but said that the polling probably ended too early to take into account late movement among voters. Also, Clinton supporters were harder to reach and some pollsters did not try more than twice, skewing the sample toward pro-Obama voters, said the committee organized by the American Association for Public Opinion Research. The panel discounted other possible explanations, such as the so-called ‘Bradley effect,’ in which some white voters say they will support a black candidate, but don't vote that way in the privacy of the polling booth.” 
 
The group makes this point: “Polling in primary elections is inherently more difficult than polling in a general election.” And: “The estimation errors in the polls before the New Hampshire Democratic primary were of about the same magnitude as in the Iowa caucus. ... But the majority of the polls before New Hampshire suggested the wrong winner, while only half in Iowa did.”
 
Here are some highlights from the 123-page report:

Factors that may have influenced the estimation errors in the New Hampshire pre-primary polls include:

1. Given the compressed caucus and primary calendar, polling before the New Hampshire primary may have ended too early to capture late shifts in the electorate there, measuring momentum as citizens responded to the Obama victory in the Iowa caucus but not to later events in New Hampshire.
2. Patterns of nonresponse, derived from comparing the characteristics of the pre-election samples with the exit poll samples, suggest that some groups that supported Senator Hillary Clinton were underrepresented in the pre-election polls.
3. Variations in likely voter models could explain some of the estimation problems in individual polls. Application of the Gallup likely voter model, for example, produced a larger error than their unadjusted data. While the “time of decision” data do not look very different in 2008 compared to recent presidential primaries, about one-fifth of the voters in the 2008 New Hampshire primary said they were voting for the first time. This influx of first-time voters may have had an adverse effect on likely voter models.
4. Variations in weighting procedures could explain some of the estimation problems in individual polls. And for some polls, the weighting and likely voter modeling were comingled in a way that makes it impossible to distinguish their separate effects.
5. Although no significant social desirability effects were found that systematically produced an overestimate of support for Senator Obama among white respondents or for Senator Clinton among male respondents, an interaction effect between the race of the interviewer and the race of the respondent did seem to produce higher support for Senator Obama in the case of a black interviewer. However, Obama was also preferred over Clinton by those who were interviewed by a white interviewer.

Factors unlikely to have contributed to the estimation errors in the New Hampshire pre-primary polls include:

1. The exclusion of cell phone only (CPO) individuals from the samples did not seem to have an effect. However, this proportion of citizens is going to change over time, and pollsters should remain attentive to its possible future effects.
2. Using a two-part trial heat question, intended to reduce the level of “undecided” responses, did not produce that desired effect and does not seem to have affected the eventual distributions of candidate preference.
3. The use of either computerized telephone interviewing (CATI) techniques or interactive voice response (IVR) techniques made no difference to the accuracy of estimates.
4. The use of the trial heat questions was quite variable, especially with regard to question order, but no discernible patterns of effects on candidate preference distributions were noted. While the names of the (main) candidates were frequently randomized, the committee did not receive data that would have permitted an analysis of the impact of order.
5. Little compelling information indicates that Independents made a late decision to vote in the New Hampshire Republican primary, thereby increasing estimate errors.

Factors that present intriguing potential explanations for the estimation errors in the New
Hampshire polls, but for which the committee lacked adequate empirical information to thoroughly assess include:

1. The wide variation in sample frames used to design and implement samples – ranging from random samples of listed telephone numbers, to lists of registered voters with telephone numbers attached, to lists of party members – may have had an effect. Greater information about sample frames and sample designs, including respondent selection techniques, would facilitate future evaluations of poll performance.
2. Differences among polls in techniques employed to exclude data collected from some respondents could have affected estimates. Given the lack of detailed disclosure of how this was done, it is not possible to assess the impact of this procedure.
3. Some polls combined weighting to adjust for nonresponse among demographic groups with weighting that reflects likely voter models into a single set of weights for a study. This complicates the analysis of whether or how much sampling issues or likelihood of voting models are contributing to estimation error.

Finally, factors that appeared to be potential explanations for estimation errors, but for which the committee lacked any empirical information to assess include:

1. Because of attempts by some states to manipulate the calendar of primaries and caucuses, the Iowa and New Hampshire events were rescheduled to the first half of January, with only five days between the events, truncating the polling field period in New Hampshire following the Iowa caucus.
2. The order of the names on the ballot – randomly assigned but fixed on every ballot - may have contributed to the increased support that Senator Hillary Clinton received in New Hampshire.
On The Bradley effect specifically: A 2008 analysis "indicates that while the Bradley effect did undermine some state-level polls in previous decades, there is no evidence for such an effect in recent years. In the 2008 general election, the very accurate final poll estimates of Barack Obama’s fairly decisive victory over John McCain dispelled suspicion that the Bradley effect was at play during the final weeks of the fall contest. There is also a conspicuous lack of evidence for a Bradley effect in the primary contests outside of New Hampshire. ... However, it is still possible that intentional misreporting occurred during the lead up to the New Hampshire Democratic primary because of the interaction between the race of the interviewer and the race of the respondent."

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So they need to learn from mistakes and not repeat them. Move on please.
Enough with New Hampshire.  What happened was that Hillary cried and a lot of women didn't want to see her chances ended so early.  They made a responsible decision to let the election play on because no candidate has ever won both IA and NH and not won the nomination.  The polls were off because the Hillary voters surged very late and because Obama's operation combined with the media as very very arrogant.  The question became "does Obama win by double digits."  I saw it myself on Morning Joe that day.  The polls were wrong, let's move on.
Simply put... instead of the Bradley Effect you got the Doug Wilder Effect.
huh?
And isn't it nice that this is now just an academic question! Cream rises -- in spite of pundits or polls.
Hillary was robbed of the nomination because of the Michigan and Florida debacle. Had they been allowed to hold their primaries, Hillary would be POTUS as opposed to SOS.  
Why don't you just admit that you can't 'forecast' anyone's vote!  Makes me wonder if the MSM isn't trying to influence the voters with the "everyone is going to vote for BLA BLA...", so you should too...

Why not just stick to the facts for each candidate and let us decide without your influence?
"...Also, Clinton supporters were harder to reach and some pollsters did not try more than twice, skewing the sample toward pro-Obama voters, ..."

Yeah, that means Clinton supporters aren't home during the day because they HAVE JOBS!
Hmm, because the general was more reliable then the bradley effect is dead?  B-S, I have spent a lot of time in NH, have family & friends there etc, live a short drive away.  And like most of the NE it is MORE RACIST THAN MODERN DAY DEEP SOUTH STATES.  Why do you think yankee liberals are so insecure and need to constantly point to the south & all it's people and yell "your racist, your racist, your racist"

Really people how the hell is this NEWS anyway, shoudln't this whole "controversy" be filed under OLDS?  Besides this is a case of POLLING, curious about polling? go on you tube and watch Penn & Teller's B*llshit episode on polling to learn all you ever need to know.
How long before a research report about a poll equals the latest budget proposal?

There is another reason this isn't the second coming of the great depression.  We're far from exhausting the expenditure of time and money on essentially useless things.

Could have served several thousand plates of Mushroom Risotto at Miriam's Kitchen with the costs related to this piece of irrelevance.
Sorry, 123 pages of irrelevance and waste.
Yeah, that means Clinton supporters aren't home during the day because they HAVE JOBS!
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Are you seriously still fuming about this?  Give me a break.  She's Secretary of State and she's good at it, too.  They played out the entire primary process.  She lost the delegate count and the popular vote.  GROW UP.
The purpose of this posting was?  You guys have too much time on your hands.  Time to earn the paycheck.
whatever, j. merle - for all that hard work you're doing, you spend about the same amount of time whining on this board.  And by the way, FR opened the Scotus Cigarette article 3 hours after the last post to allow a Richard Washington State post through.  So, it isn't just libs that get a place at the table,...
"...Are you seriously still fuming about this?  Give me a break.  She's Secretary of State and she's good at it, too.  They played out the entire primary process.  She lost the delegate count and the popular vote.  GROW UP. ....."
Brian Crooks, Naperville, IL (Sent Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:41 PM)

Yes I am, and no I will not give you or Obama-Big Mouth any "break."
The people in the states of Michigan and Florida were disenfranchised from the Democratic party's nominating process. Hillary was denied two primary victories that would have turned the momentum in her favor.
Most of Obama's early backers were Green Party PUKES and third party PUNKS who threaten to vote against Democratic candidates when they don't get their own way. (...and they did in 2000 and 2008, paving the way for Bush's Presidency. So essentially the same people who put Bush in, put Obama in as well. How's THAT make ya' feel?))
Now, look at what we have...a fast talking, tap dancing, shucking & jiving, motor mouthed speech-maker who can't tie his own shoelaces and hasn't got a clue.
And as far as your "grow up" line goes.....it's a great rhetorical answer.
But it don't butter the biscuit as far as leadership goes. If "growing up" in your eyes means selling out your country to someone who doesn't know what he's doing, then I'd rather stay a "child" and vote for a qualified statesman with leadership capabilities.
WE ACTION, not TALK,
NEED LEADERSHIP, not SHOWMANSHIP




I'm sorry but the New Hampshire poll fiasco was one of at least a half dozen cases of poor polling that was used to undermine the Clinton candiacy.  California was another big mistake and what about Ohio and Pennsylvania, where Clinton's margin was show to be slim if not behind Obama and yet she won by huge landslides. The pollsters were consumed with Obamania, which they got from the press that had been consumed since day one. Pollsters that didn't show Obama winning didn't get any air time or press time or television interview time.  New Hampshire was not an isolated case but a bigger problem in reporting the campaign. In my opinion if no polls were given airtime Obama would have lost New Hampshire and the other states as well.  One of the biggest farces is that the polling in South Carolina which showed Clinton way ahead until she lost quite handily on election day. The fact is Clinton was always third after Obama and Edwards. Again false polls were used to project this notion that Obama was surging, when in fact he won in a state that he was expected to win even before Iowa, which he was also expected to win. The simple fact of the amtter is the pollsters were wrong because they wanted to be right. They wanted to be one the showing Obama with an upset. They wanted to be the one who said "I told you so" so they could promote it to get clients. Pollsters and their polls are not the news nor should they tried to be.


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