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Liberals gather in DC, ponder future

Posted: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:46 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
This is a new position for liberals -- being in charge.

For the eight years of the George W. Bush administration, lefties lamented the state of America -- some even vowed to leave the country. (Most stayed.)

The yearly Take Back America conference, organized by the liberal Campaign for America's Future, served as a sounding board for that angst.

But now that Democrats have, well, taken back America, regaining the House, Senate and the White House, what's next?

First, they changed the name of the annual Washington confab to the tamer (yet more punctuated) America's Future Now! At today's kick-off of the event, organizer Roger Hickey noted the name change. "The reason for that change is you," he said, adding, "Last year, we took back America. We took it back from the edge of disaster."

But he continued, "Taking it back from the radical right-wingers -- that was just a first step... Now that we've taken back America, our job is to affect real change."

Anna Burger, who runs the SEIU's political arm and also serves on the president's Council of Economic Advisers said, "It was just a year ago we came here to take back America, and we did it... We have saved our capital and our country and have our leader in the White House."

She stressed, however, that pragmatism and working together were the reasons progressives won out. "We've learned to work together to get out of our silos," Burger said. She said that pragmatism might mean that working together might not get "perfect" results, but it would move the country in the desired direction.

"Sure, there are days when I think, 'Couldn't he do more?'" she said. "But look at what's already been done."

Ilyse Hogue, of MoveOn.org, said that saying "no" is a lot easier than pushing a progressive agenda. She added that in order to accomplish that, though, pragmatism is important, but progressives should hold members of Congress and the White House accountable -- referring especially to newly minted Democratic Sen. Arlen Specter.

She said progressives would not "blindly support" Specter. She added if he proves he'll vote with the constituency, then "we will help you." If not, "all bets are off."

She cited health-care reform, energy, and the Employee Free Choice Act (a.k.a. "card check") as issues where Specter can prove his progressive stripes. "Our primary mandate," Hogue said, "is to represent our constituency."

There are still some issues in which liberals aren't completely satisfied with when it comes to this president -- for example, banking, Afghanistan, and an iron-clad promise to have a public option for health care.

And murmurs of that could be heard here. During the Q&A session here, there were shouts from the audience of "single payer" and "Afghanistan".

Burger, at one point, got into a back-and-forth over single payer with a mic-less shouting audience member perfectly audible in the back of the large ballroom.

"I just don't think it's going to happen this year," Burger told the audience member, who continued to speak.

Fellow panelist Deepak Bhargava, executive director of the Center for Community Change, got loud cheers when he chimed in that "A lot of us in the room do think single payer is best." But he stressed that at least a public option would be a "step on the path."

[Editor's Note: Deepak Bhargava was incorrectly identified as having been affiliated with the Center for American Progress. He is not; he is the executive director of the Center for Community Change.]

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Well you rightes I hope you got that. We are on one accord. Enough said...
After the incompetent immoral illegal run of the bushwhacker tyranny for 8 years it's about time that the Liberals take charge and fix all the problems caused by the evangelical christian lunatic fringe.  Our country is in tatters thanks to the evil elephant party and all they can do now is be the dopes of nope.

If Specter wants progressives to support him then he had better show progressives that he supports us.  I still like Joe Sestak better and hope he can whip too old Arlen so that we have a real Democratic Senator from PA instead of a turncoat who only wants to get reelected by anyone he can connive into doing so.

I'm so laughing at that group of Chinese investors who have a tentative deal to buy a 15% stake in the Cleveland Cadavers.  Bet they're sweating out their investment now that the King of Choke has shown he was nothing but an overhyped media miscreation.  What a spoiled brat he was after losing game 6, no class whatsoever.

In Obama We Trust!
Go Lakers!
'Taken it back from the radical right wingers'  ?  

Who does this group think ran Congress for the past two years?
The future is bleak for liberals. There aren't enough workers in the US to be able to fund all the government programs the liberals need to live off of.
First Read ~ The correct spelling for that usage is "effect," not "affect."  

But hasn't anyone noticed that only President Obama is actually effecting change?  What Congress is doing is very hard to say, except riding along on his coattails.  They -- and we -- had better hope his coattails are long enough to last.
You guys at MSNBC continue to amaze me with your left-wing Bias. You keep talking about how Bush/Republicans had 8 years of total control, but conveniently forget that Democrats took over the Senate and the House in 2006, shortly there after, the country started to go to hell in a handbasket. Democrats forcing banks to loan money to people who coudln't pay them back (think Frank, Dodd, Waters)and starting this whole economic mess.

In Rush We Trust
Brink of disaster is an understatement.  It will be years before we fully recover.  Should be interesting to see the difference between the speeches at this convention compared to CPAC.

The difference between a republican and democrat is that democrats just leave the country until citizens come to their senses while republicans want to secede from the USA and take 60% of the citizens who like it here with them.
Pragmatism is the best way to go. Whle some of these people are talking pragmatism they want pure libralism. That is just as bad as the hypocrisy of the far right. We need a centerist approach. It is nice to have pie-in-the-sky ideals but will  they happen? Some, obviously will while others won't and there will be a big chunk of these programs, ideas etc. that will disappoint both sides but will be a compromise. That centerist compromise will have the greatest opportunity to pass in Congress, be signed by the President and be sustained in the years to come. Too far to one side or the other and it doesn't last.
Are we 'pondering' so much as just outright laughing at the opposition?

Things that make you go, hmmmm.
The Democrats in congress will be held responsible. Responsible for spending the country back to the dark ages. Responsible for record unemployment. Responsibile for hyper-inflation (you just can't keep printing money to buy our debt Democrats). Responsible for non action to prevent Iran from going nuclear, and from not stopping North Korea's development and sale of it's nuclear capabilities.

So no need to worry liberals, the Democrats will be held accountable.
Is "progressive" the new word for "anti-American"?
I lived in Portugal for a few years. This was at the time the second poorest country in the EU, but they had universal healthcare (socialized medicine, whatever you want to call it). Sorry America, but they kicked the pants off our healthcare system. They pay less and get more. You just walk in, get what you need and leave. If you need a common non-emergency surgery (knee surgery, cataract removal, etc) you have to wait a few months... but it costs you nothing, so you'll actually get it.
 I thought doing things as cheaply and efficiently as possible was an American ideal. How people can paint this system as unamerican is beyond me.
 This is one area where I hope liberals get there way and fast. Best of luck.
They may have taken back the legislative and executive side in WAshington, that is only the beginning.  There are many in this country who will not work with you no matter what you do.  Until the tone from the right changes and deeds match words, you are just trying to nail jello to the wall.

Of course, the right are in such disarray, there is no viable candidate to step forward and try to work with those in power.The media keep chasing the shiny bright objects of dissent and lack of objectivity, thus keeping the right's nasty and disturbing attacks front and center.

Why does the media cave everytime, no one challenges these half truth and lies that keep spinning from the right.  Not once have you guys on this network once written that Sonia Sotamayor's remarks have been taken out of context and  show the full quote regarding her take on life experiences.  Women do see things differently no matter what color or culture we come from.   Despite being in power, the left has a long hard road ahead trying to change the tone and the mindset of the ignorant and misinformed.
The most encouraging word in the liberal talking points is, for me, PRAGMATISM!

As the President seeks to govern from the middle to maintain the coalition that put him in office, we must accept reality and work toward what is possible. Healthcare with a public option is an important step as are a greener economuy, intelligent regulations and cooperative international leadership.

Do not let the Nopers gain any traction by taking extreme positions. We must avoid the temptation to overreach.

Change is here. Let's make the most of our opportunity!
Roger Hickey: But he continued, "Taking it back from the radical right-wingers -- that was just a first step...


So who is going to take the government back from the radical left-wingers? Also known as the Obama administration.
Why do liberals want the government to control every aspect of their lives?
If they take it too far left, we'll boot 'em out. So far, so good, but don't get cocky.....
What's surprising is that First Read refers to these nut jobs as what they really are, "Liberals".
Liberals are not, as Republicans and hate-mongers like Ann "I'm a self hating liberal" Counter would have you believe, anti-American.  Liberals are more open and willing to listen to different ideas as to how the country.  
Well, if the liberals "Took Back America", maybe they can start paying for all these programs they want rather then charge them on the Chinese Credit Card. After they raise taxes on everyone to pay for all this spending, and they will have to do that, then we'll see just how popular these liberals really are.
"Taking it back from the radical right-wingers -- that was just a first step".......I wonder if the list of "radical right-wingers" includes many of the founders who wanted God (NOT state regligion) at the center of all they did.  The "radical" Abraham Lincoln who proclaimed national days of fasting and prayer to repent of personal and corporate sins.  The "radical" John Adams who said "Our Constitution was made ONLY for a MORAL and RELIGIOUS people.  It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Or radicals like Noah Webster who said "Education without the Bible is useless."  Or the "radicals" in gov't who put "In God we trust" on our money or who wanted "One nation under God" in our pledge.  Are these the ones the liberal movement is "taking the country back from?"  It sure seems so.
It's odd that the words and enthusiasm could very well sound like the far right in reverse...except it's much closer to truth than fiction. The Conservative grassroots have pushed beyond the mainstream and liberals have observed their mistakes and created a coalition that is able to govern this country more effectively than conservatives at this point. Are their ideas often the best..no...but there is a sense of stability now and a sense that government isn't operating in the shadows. I don't believe single payer will ever come about, but I think a public plan that fosters honest competition is long overdue.
Oh, they've changed it, all right.  What they haven't yet destroyed are in their gunsights.  What is left will not resemble the country we love, but a mrxist-socialist 'paradise' where those not in the government loop suffer economic hardhsip unknown in this country at any previous time.

At a time when even CHINA is following a capatialist economic growth plan, we are nationalizing businesses.  How long before we have a department of manufacturing?  Of course, those who worship at the altar of Obama only heard his statement that he would not be running GM; this allowed them to ignore the other statements in the speech, such as how there would be less manufacturing in 'other' countries, and more plants here; that GM would manufacture the 'right' cars, (who decides?  Not the consumers, obviously)-ignored, or were ignorant of, all of the language that betrayed the command economy aspects of this 'restructuring'.

If we don't get rid of the dems in 2010, and get Obama out in 2012, we are doomed to forever have U.S.G.M. as an entitlement industry that will strangle our economy.

It took some time for the Poles to understand, when they took back their country, that they had to abandon the 'two market' strategy they were pursuing.  For a few years, they attempted to have both state run and privately run factories making clothing and cars. It didn't work, but there was fear that the unemployment that would ensue from the closing of the state run facilities would doom the new democracy.  It was not until the competition from imports threatened to drive the new businesses out of the country that they bit the bullet and abandoned the state factories.

Funny that America has to re-learn lessons we taught the world.  Ronald Reagan is turning in his grave.
The future is California or any other state these children have destroyed. We're just waiting on the rest of the country to get sick of them picking their own to be winners and everyone else to pay for it.

I agree with "Popular" - - let the radical left-wingers and Obama-lovers pay for it all.  
Buy a Chrysler (Sent Monday, June 01, 2009 2:03 PM)

Wow, it is such a relief to know that banks were forced to make all those bogus loans! And here I thought they loaned trillions of dollars on loans that were questionable simply because they were taking risks and figured housing values would never fall, so there wasn't any real risk!

And it sure is a good thing all the republicans foresaw the whole thing happening and warned us about the changes need to prevent catastrophe!

It is also good to know that the house and senate passed all those banking rules since 2006 without a single republican vote. Even more miraculous is that fact that even with a small majority, the house and senate were able to override all of bush's vetos that stopped all these bad banking policies from happening.

Thanks for the history lesson! You're obviously very well informed!
So no need to worry liberals, the Democrats will be held accountable.

No problem, I believe the Democrats will be accountable.  But when is dumbya and deadeye dick, and their enablers going to be held accountable for wasting a surplus, taking a balanced budget and running up the deficit to record highs, lying to the Americans about WMDs, invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 at the cost of billions of dollars a month, over 4 thousand Americans killed, not to mention the countless casualties of the Iraq populace, warrantless wiretapping, using torture, ruining our economy with tax cuts for the wealthy and on and on and on.....

Oh that's right, Republicans can't do anything right so they just walk away and leave the rest of us to roll up our sleeves and actually help the country.  Republicans, what a bunch of spoiled inept bungling losers!  C'mon neocons, man up and take responsibilty for the mess you've made of this country.
Liberals foolishly believe that they are the only solution when reality shows that they are the major problem.  "Jan 20, 2013 - An end of a error."
Those of you who keep shouting that the democrats controlled congress for the last two years and thus everything that is wrong is their fault have short memories.  You can say that, but if you look at what happened, they managed to get very little through because of the very loud and vociferous obstructionism of the Repubs.  The few things they did manage to pass (S-Chip, etc.) were vetoed by the President Bush.  You can whine about the process, but the results are what counts and with the closeness of the majority, they weren't able to do much.  That's partly why the voters elected a bigger majority this time.  They want action, not obstruction.


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