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Men with guns -- outside town hall

Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:45 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Ron Allen
Outside the event where President Obama will conduct his town hall, there is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.

The local police chief said it's legal for the man to have a registered handgun -- as long as it is not concealed. What's more, he is on private property, a church yard, which has given him permission to be there.

*** UPDATE *** More on the man with the gun... William Kostric is a married man in his mid 30S who works in sales. He says he moved here to New Hampshire from Arizona about a year ago, because it's a "live free or die" state -- and he thought Arizona was becoming too restrictive with its gun laws.

He's passing out a bookmark that says, "Join the Second Amendment Revolution, the most exciting pro-liberty movement in over 200 years."

He's a Ron Paul supporter, who opposes just about everything Obama, including health care reform.

The local police say he is within his rights to carry a handgun openly under state law. He was carrying a 9-mm Smith and Wesson strapped to his lower leg.

Police say he's OK on a public sidewalk. Kostric says he has permission from a church just down the street from the high school to be on its private property.

He says he was approached by a "detective," possibly a Secret Service Agent, who told him he could be arrested within 1,000 feet of a school with a weapon under a federal law. Kostric moved back to private property.

When Obama arrived, the police had Kostric under surveillance. A local police captain said the Secret Service has been "in the loop."

Kostric has been about 50 to 75 yards from the entrance to the high school, since about 11:00 am ET, doing interviews and carrying a sign and his gun and police have had their eye on him. But as long as he's been "cooperative," they have watched, but let him be.

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Obama does not like or want folks to have guns.

Obama does not like or want folks to have guns.

Obama does not like or want folks to have guns.

Trying to scare people again! Shame Shame Shame
Another staged event. Will there be hugs?

Stage Mom (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:20 AM)
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Probably not!  But one things for certain, there will be THUGS!
Parental Pimps for $500 Please Alex!

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Nope. Staged event. Oh wait, I guess you are right.
Thanks, guy with gun, for adding fuel to the fire.  Thanks, media, for broadcasting it.  Just what we need, more hysteria.

But that's the kind of thing that boosts ratings, right?
I’ve heard and read the mentioning of several senior citizens being referred to as “eithty-year olds”, in attendance during Town Hall Meetings. Sadly…the level of violence is esculating due to beligerance and ingnorance by those that have accepted their “thirty pieces of silver” in exchange for selling themselves out and the “majority” of America. - Anita, burlington, Alabama

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Got any proof of this? Even one person that is paid off?

Thought not.
From NBC's Ron Allen
Outside the event where President Obama will conduct his town hall, there is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.
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The very idea that the man has a gun near the President is wrong...I hope like hell they aren't thinking of hurting him...it will be hell to pay in America. This is the kind of sick bullsh** I've been commenting about.

We are watching...we are silent...for now...
Hey, Eric Holder dismissed the charges against the New Black Panthers for their firearms and harassment charges outside a polling place. Let it go!!!!!!
The local police chief said it's legal for the man to have a registered handgun -- as long as it is not concealed. What's more, he is on private property, a church yard, which has given him permission to be there.

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Which makes New Hampshire a lot safer then Washington DC.
It must be the 'Church of the Goeey Death'

WHAT CHURCH is going to allow GUNS ON THE GROUNDS ??

A Segregationist Church ??

Fear and Loathing in the Heartland
Isn't it MADNESS to allow someone with a HANDGUN in SHOOTING RANGE of THE PRESIDENT ??

THANK YOU JESUS !!!

Any bets that this guy is white, christian and listens to Rush?

Remeber, Guns don't murder doctors, crazy GOP facists with guns murder doctors.
There need to be a thousand protesters there with guns strapped to the legs.

Hey, let's play Bonanza.
Thanks, guy with gun, for adding fuel to the fire.  Thanks, media, for broadcasting it.  Just what we need, more hysteria.

But that's the kind of thing that boosts ratings, right? Gail, TN (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:51 PM)
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It boosts ratings AND scares away voters.
Just ask the people threatened by the New Black Panthers.
Obama and Holder did not think that was a big issue.
God forbid that man with the gun hurt anyone or even himself.  What's the point of bringing that gun - just to show that he can??  Or just to show that he can't listen or think without it??  

Sad, very sad.
From NBC's Ron Allen
Outside the event where President Obama will conduct his town hall, there is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.
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The very idea that the man has a gun near the President is wrong...I hope like hell they aren't thinking of hurting him...it will be hell to pay in America. This is the kind of sick bullsh** I've been commenting about.

We are watching...we are silent...for now...
Anita, Birmingham, Alabama



Talk about jumping to conclusions. There are some excellent medications available to treat paranoia, maybe you should look into them.
This wouldn't be a big deal in Texas. This guy is fine. If a maniac wanted to do harm to Obama he would conceal his weapon and not let the world see it.
This is outrageous.  And a church gave him permission. I don't even know what to say.  I would consider this an immediate and direct threat to the Presiden of the United States.  And this is exactly why there should be gun control.  This is intimidation and harassment.  
I PRAY everyday for the safety & well being of our President!

God help this country is one of these right wing whack jobs harms him in any WAY!
Hey, Eric Holder dismissed the charges against the New Black Panthers for their firearms and harassment charges outside a polling place. Let it go!!!!!!
St. Eleutherius of Nicomedia
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Don't let your wooden God fool you into thinking that this is all good. You people have gotten it wrong for the last 150 years...keep f***ing up...you're already out of chances.
It is idiots like him that give responsible gun owners a bad name. Pure ignorance.
Hey, Eric Holder dismissed the charges against the New Black Panthers for their firearms and harassment charges outside a polling place. Let it go!!!!!!
St. Eleutherius of Nicomedia (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:53 PM)

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Just know that the US Secret Service is going to know at all times today where that guy is.
This is just the type of thing that turns the wing nuts on,there will be lots of wood today.This is what Sinner Sarha was trying to do while she was on the trail.She insighted this type of rasict rage.Not to say Newt and Limby and Beck don't do there part to stir the under-educated.I'm sure they  must all be holding there playboys at this very moment,rub a dub,dub here comes the chub.The baggers will be ODing on tea today,the south will get a rise,and the mouth pieces will be out denouncing this type of thing,while under there bad breath they will be cheering like rabid dogs that they are.
There is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.
The local police chief said it's legal for the man to have a registered handgun -- as long as it is not concealed.
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HUH???

Can someone explain then what would constitute a concealed weapon??  

Or better yet... WHY he needs a gun at a PROTEST??

WTF!!!
Just made my comment on this on the previous thread.  But I'll add that this guy is a total jerk and just plain stupid.  I said it earlier, if you're on private property and your purpose is public protest, then you should not be allowed to have a gun, church permission or not.  

OK, republicans, Limbaugh and the like, wake up and smell the roses.  Your insightment of anger is reflected in gun-toting protesters.  When will you stop the lies.

MeRepeat, Doster GA.  Your statement reflects the intelligence level of the guy with the gun.  I'm so cool, look at me--I've got a gun.  Aren't you scared.  
My guess is that the Secret Service has this well in hand.

And that the Obama administration will maximize the propaganda value of it and throw in a few impersonators to gin things up.

Maybe since that stupid, insane Sean Hannity wished the President a Happy Birthday and said he hoped it would be the President's last; these people are following that Stupid Hannity's wish.  

Remember this is Hannity's America. Perhaps these guys want to get America back for that stupid, insane Hannity.

Those people are just as sick as Hannity.
Alabama Nut In The Area is really a high school gender and politics class taking turns, right?
While I support citizens carrying concealed weapons legally, and also support non concealed gun carriers, it baffles me as to why someone needs to bring such an imitimidating weapon to a Town Hall meeting? Are there not laws regarding bringing a gun within firing range of the president of the US? I have nothing against guns or those who carry them, but if this trend continues more and more people will bring guns to Town Hall Meetings.
The very idea that the man has a gun near the President is wrong...I hope like hell they aren't thinking of hurting him...it will be hell to pay in America. This is the kind of sick bullsh** I've been commenting about.

We are watching...we are silent...for now...
Anita, Birmingham, Alabama (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:52 PM)
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Roger that Anita!  

Let me tell you that ALL the middle aged WHITE woman who I worked during the campaign feel exactly the SAME way! It's not a black or white thing that's for sure!

If the whack jobs want a revolution… THEY’LL GET ONE if something happens to our President!  

It will be the end of our country as we know it!
Is the gun loaded.  Or even real?  Could he be making a political point, like hanging George Bush in effigy or wishing Dick Cheney's pacemaker had failed?

Is he a DNC plant? Perhaps a weed?
I've got a name for some of these folks that show up to these places just yelling and screaming and not discussing:

SLOW

S-care easily
L-ow Information Voter
O-ld
W-hite

These people are afraid of just about anything Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh tells them to be afraid of.  They don't believe facts or evidence when it is put in front of them in black and white.  And every time I see these people stand up and scream like a toddler at these town hall events, they have two things in common: They're old and white (incidentally, I'm a white guy, but not old).

So they're the SLOW movement - they want to slow everything down, because they don't want anything to change, at all, ever!!

I think we and the media should start calling them the SLOW people, cause they're obviously not quick enough to understand that there are no "death panels" out to "kill granny" or that their health care will go away, or for that matter, that the Medicare they're on is ALREADY socialized medicine!  And all they want to do is slow the process of health care reform in an attempt to kill it, without ever bothering to understand it or the implications of NOT passing it.
Got any proof of this? Even one person that is paid off? Thought not.
More Lefty Lies
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You're another lie. The people that are there are old people that are damn near nursing home quality. One of your own bloggers stated as much to me on last Friday a Mr.Paul Miller.

You people are scum of the earth dirt bags that will pimp your own parents and grand parents for the sake of a dollar. scaring them with the 'Death Panel BS, and "Kill Granny" BS...shame on you all.
"It boosts ratings AND scares away voters.
Just ask the people threatened by the New Black Panthers.
Obama and Holder did not think that was a big issue."
- St. Eleutherius of Nicomedia

If the President were someone you support, would you feel differently?
I love the show "Burn Notice". I recently saw an episode where the 'good guy' was waiting outside while the 3 'bad guys' with guns were inside, eventually going to kill each other because they each thought the other guy betrayed him. It was taking too long, so the 'good guy' just fired a shot in the grass. Immediately, all the guns inside were fired, killing each other, because of the shot in the grass that wasn't even meant to harm them.

Moral of the story, it wouldn't take much for panic to set in at one of these meetings. Even if a 'harmless' shot was fired, the ensuing panic would certainly be a tragedy.  

With that said, I think it's insane,legal or not, to allow anyone near our President with a gun.
Who would Jesus shoot?
Got any proof of this? Even one person that is paid off?

Thought not.
More Lefty Lies (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:52 PM)


No your wrong More leffty Lies there were plenty of UAW members being paid to attend Rep Dingles town hall and they started the violence and agitation see how wrong you are
Any bets that this guy is white, christian and listens to Rush?
Scooter (Sent Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:54 PM)
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Or he could be a Jewish lefitst and listens to William Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Rahm Emanuel, David Axlerod and Abbie Hoffman.
A real man wouldn't need to carry a gun on church property. Therefore he must be a republican.
Really, I think the only thing that may put a dent in the large Corporations efforts to stop HCR is when a group of Americans are KILLED as a result of their BS tactics.

Ignorant Americans that play to the BS by the right wingers will do something extreme, because the right wing leaders will fuel the fire.

The sad thing is, these idiots that are at these town halls - with their so called protests are just pods for the wealthy knuckles heads setting behind a desk in a guarded building.

We are heading for anarchy - thanks to the right wing nuts and their bigotry, hatred and greed.

People will begin to die, mark my words and this will be the media’s rating opportunity and they will board cast every minor incident and others will follow.

President Obama will have to declare marshal law and begin to lock up people and seek prosecution of the corporations and individual for treason.

Because the moment a right wing nut, kills someone, because of their idioticy - will be the moment "ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOSE.

The GOP and their corporate buddies will be responsible and causing more harm to our country.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
There is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.
The local police chief said it's legal for the man to have a registered handgun -- as long as it is not concealed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HUH???

Can someone explain then what would constitute a concealed weapon??  

Or better yet... WHY he needs a gun at a PROTEST??

WTF!!!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

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You have no clue do you? A concealed weapon is one that is on ones body that other people cannot readily see. An unconcealed weapon is one that can be easily seen on a person. And as it all relates to you, your ignorance is unconcealed.
If the law says it's OK then the libs have NOTHING to cry about.
If you get confused, re-educate yourself on the Second Amendment and get back to us later.
Saying NO to HCR


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