Congress: Cheaper by the dozen?

Greg P. NW Indiana — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:21:16 GMT

'We would love to have Mr. Rangel spend a few days in a laboratory talking to some of our scientists who are working to cure cancer, heart disease and Alzheimer's. Perhaps then he would have a better appreciation of what we do. Yes, we agree saving money is important. But so is saving lives.'"

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I'm sure the representative would have no problem explaining the shift in strategy from curing to treating people in modern medicine?

There is less profit in curing...there is cashflow in treating.

Another reason for non-profit healthcare.

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brian — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:22:34 GMT

there is no money in a cure, hence why nothing has been cured. there is only money in 'treatments'.

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Nashville_fan — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:23:01 GMT

"Charlie Rangel said on MSNBC that insurance companies are "stealing" from people. "In response to Rangel's comments, Ken Johnson, senior vice president of PhRMA, said: 'We would love to have Mr. Rangel spend a few days in a laboratory talking to some of our scientists who are working to cure cancer, heart disease and Alzheimer's. Perhaps then he would have a better appreciation of what we do. Yes, we agree saving money is important. But so is saving lives.'" - First Read
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What good is all that research if we don't have access to it?

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Devon Reese, Baltimore MD — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:23:49 GMT

FR: Senate Democrats are calling for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans, as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees,

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Every large employer would dump their insurance in a bout 2 seconds. To be off the hook of having to pay $8000 to $10000 for each employees insurance, and only have to pay $750 per employee? 1 second. It would take 1 second for the employers to throw away their priovate insurance.

Small employers have a problem though. If they didn't offer insurance, then they'd either fire employees or go out of business while having an additional $750 fee for employee put on them.

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Daany T. Texas — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:24:48 GMT

>> Charlie Rangel said on MSNBC that " insurance companies are "stealing" from people. "<<

Charlie! Pay those taxes you owe yet? You know, so you're not stealing from the American government.

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Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:25:27 GMT

Charlie Rangel said on MSNBC that insurance companies are "stealing" from people.
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Insurance companies are stealing from people and it doesn't take the amount of money that PhRMA is claiming that is shaking down Americans to advance research on drugs and medications that still aren't fit for human consumption, the very drugs that are constantly being recalled that are killing Americans and causing more and more to seek medical treatment for illnesses that result from consumption of those meds.

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Theft of Property — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:26:19 GMT

FR: Charlie Rangel said on MSNBC that insurance companies are "stealing" from people. "

Isn't that a coincidence. That's exactly how a lot of people feel about the federal government.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:28:04 GMT

I'm glad that the Democrats are starting to man up for the public option for health care reform. It's the only way to keep the private insurance ripoff conartists honest. The Democrats are now getting to putting in the details for how to pay for health care reform without digging the country further into debt.

Mr. Rangel is oh so correct that the private insurance companies are stealing from us, just look at how much patient money gets wasted on the industry bribing politicians to do what they tell them to. The public option wouldn't waste any taxpayer money on bribing politicians and we need to get the lobbyists out of making decisions about our health care for us.

Health Care Reform with the Public Option Now!

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Sean — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:36:07 GMT

The only solution out of this mess will be a national sales tax. There will not be nearly enough money to cover everyone legal and illegal without it.

Make the Sales tax 25%, and cover everyone period.

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Cathy M, Newport, KY — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:44:25 GMT

And why is America footing the bill for all the research, which benefits all other nations as well. I received an on-line ad for Advair, which in this country is approx. $260 w/o insurance, approx. $40 with my insurance, but they are advertising for $2.46 from Canada.

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Mike in Illinois — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:46:47 GMT

It takes an incredible amount of gall for a tax cheat like Rangel to accuse anyone of stealing anything.

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Brian, Cedar Hill, TX — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:48:49 GMT

"Yes, we agree saving money is important. But so is saving lives.'" - then I guess there will be no lives to save unless there's enough money??? How many American lives have already been lost because American PHARMA charges are extremely overpriced when compared with the same drugs in Canada or elsewhere? They are worse than thieves.

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Fortunate Son — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:56:10 GMT

Insurance premiums are high on everything. But government involvement would be a catastrophe, just like government intervention in everything else is poorly done.

Blame the "chosen one" for the doom and gloom days now and ahead.

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eagle1776 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:58:59 GMT

It is too bad that we have to have a public option in the first place but because of greed and irresponsibility on the part of big insurance, pharmaseutical companies, lawyers greedy to sue, sue, sue, we end up needing that option to force the private companies to do what they should do on their own. While many companies are responsible citizens it is those who are irresponsible that make it necessary to have a public option to health care and regulations on banking etc.

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Jim — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:18:01 GMT

I concede that Rangle is an expert on stealing but I dont believe the insurance companies are stealing. Healthcare needs reform for sure but not what the administration is advocating. Public healthcare will cost us all more and we will get less for it. Thats the history of anything the government runs. If you go public/private, the public will run the private out of business since the government is not concerned about running anything efficiently since they just have to ask for more money to keep things going. If they pass what Kennedy and Dodd are advocating, the economy will be much worse then it is now as small businesses cant absorb this kind of hit. Is anyone thinking thinking these things through? Doesnt seem so.

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Bad Chihuahua — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:29:58 GMT

Congress: Cheaper by the dozen?

No, just plain CHEAP.

Palin - too good to be true.
W. - thanks for the surge, since Obie wouldn't.
Michelle - you need help with your fashion sense.
Rove - thanks for 2000 & 2004.
Moon Dawg - I could use some help on this blog.
Farrah - thanks for the poster and 1978.
Michael J. - thanks for Thriller the video.
Jamie Foxx - Jacko didn't just belong to "you."
The Fox News blondes - brains too.
Other chihuahuas - go for the ankles.
Georgee Harrison - "All things must pass away."

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hush now — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:30:56 GMT

there is no money in a cure, hence why nothing has been cured. there is only money in 'treatments'.

brian (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:22 AM)
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sssshhhh you're giving away the secret of the democrat party and their human shields.

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margaret,baltimore,md. — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:56:59 GMT

...Just like government intervention in everything else is poorly done."
signed: Fortunate Son
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Dear Mr. Son:

My father died two years ago and he was a veteran, hence, he was treated by the VA hospital. I thank those doctors for the treatment they gave him. I suspected, at times, that it was run just as some people say, "poorly". Yet, he was retired from a job that long ago shut down and if he had to have medicare, it was still the government. What I am getting to is that I too am treated by the government as I am a military widow, the congress has government health insurance, and I don't see them trying to "get out of their insurance plan". So what is the problem with the "government running the health insurance business?"

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Mo — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:07:07 GMT

Palin - too good to be true.
W. - thanks for the surge, since Obie wouldn't.
Michelle - you need help with your fashion sense.
Rove - thanks for 2000 & 2004.
Moon Dawg - I could use some help on this blog.
Farrah - thanks for the poster and 1978.
Michael J. - thanks for Thriller the video.
Jamie Foxx - Jacko didn't just belong to "you."
The Fox News blondes - brains too.
Other chihuahuas - go for the ankles.
Georgee Harrison - "All things must pass away."

Bad Chihuahua (Sent Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:29 AM)

As I said earlier another of the 20% neo-cons. Old white and horny for Palin.

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Deborah Greenlawn, NY — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:26:16 GMT

I don't think that is what Charlie RANGEL might have been referring to. (Researchers)
As a New Yorker he (and I) are well aware of the
scheme recently prosecuted by Atty. Gen. Andrew Cuomo.
UNITED HEALTHCARE (ha) was pricing fees by a model designed by a company-you guessed it-they owned. Thereby stealing regularly and plunging its insureds into debt by undercovering out-of-network costs, leaving the 'patient pays'too high for the insured.
Still 'happy' with the current system?
These are the thieves I think he was referring to.